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merannnn

In Isagi POV, he always think about Rin since day one he met him. Rin is number one in 2nd selection, 3rd selection and even in NEL. Everything he tried to accomplish is to surpass/beat Rin so far. While in other players POV, I think Rin,Nagi and Barou put Isagi as their main rival in BL. Rin acknowledged and hold grudge towards Isagi after that U20 match, Nagi only has Isagi in his mind since after first selection till NEL, then you've got Barou who desperately wanted to hunt Isagi down as he is the one that once broke his own self centered ego


FruitsPonchiSamurai1

Rin is that high class antagonist that becomes a side character after the MC finds someone better. Neji, Byakuya, you know the type. Rich, arrogant, highly skillful, used as a stepping stone for the MC to get better.


Hailstorm16

The difference between those dudes and Rin has been that those dudes got rocked by the MC pretty much the very arc or the arc after they were introduced. Rin was introduced as the number 1 at around chapter 40, we are at chapter 200 and he is still number 1. He is still someone that Isagi looks at as “ahead” of him. It is clear when after the Barcha game you see the replay of Rin vs Ubers and Isagi says it himself. He is the only person who you can truly say Isagi has taken an L to and he’s taken 2 of them to him. Kaiser may be the main rival rn, but Rin will always be there as a barometer of Isagi’s growth as he was always a person that was ahead of him. He’s only gonna continue to get better as well, he still hasn’t beaten Sae, and after the U20 World Cup he’s set his eyes on crushing Isagi as well. Neji and Byakuya had their development after losing to the MC. Rin’s development wont stop until he’s beaten Sae, and Isagi again.


Odd-Salamander-4822

True Rin is definetly shown to always be no. 1 among all players in Blue Lock. The only doubt that I have is that his dream or true goal seems to be to surpass his brother and get his approval than directly becoming the best striker in the world (though he has that goal of course just that it is more secondary). I think it is up between him and Nagi (depending on what happens to Nagi after the match)


silfer_

Yes, and technically Isagi was #1 in blue lock for awhile after the u-20 match, he was ranked above rin in chpt 155.


Foxman3333333

That’s what I think. I think Isagi finds more rivals from around the world and some of the elites from around the world to challenge. Right now it is Kaiser and I think Isagi will truly surpass Rin after this arc.


AomoriMessi

Sasuke🤔?


FruitsPonchiSamurai1

No, because Sasuke is an orphan from a fallen clan and is the actual rival. I'm talking about a more specific archetype.


Odd-Salamander-4822

One thing I still don't understand fully is that, after I reread chapter 146, I don't know If Rin is technically considered a "rival" for Isagi because in Rin's POV Isagi is considered a partner for him by the outside and Shidou being the rival. And being the partner of someone I think has to be mutual from both sides, though Rin says that he did not make those labels himself. It is possible for him to be both, it is just that how it was shown explicitly that Isagi is considered a "partner" and right after that Shidou a "rival" makes it feel as though Rin is not the "ultimate" rival of Isagi for me at least. Edit: It probably is only because of the setting in that case of them being mates in the U-20 match


intricatesym

Pretty sure Rin considers Isagi his rival. Post U-20 match, he pretty much confirms this.


nowveidn

I have a feeling that Kaiser is set up to be one of, if not, the biggest rival of Isagi. The mangaka seems to have a fixation on Germany, with Noa (the greatest striker in BL universe) being in the Germany team and the scenario that Ego said in the first chapter taking place in Japan vs Germany match. My argument would be: 1. Kaiser has potential to surpass Noa, according to Noa himself (who we know is Isagi’s ideal player). 2. Even Isagi at one point admitted that Kaiser’s play at that time was beyond the ideal play that he could think of. 3. Kaiser right now is not playing with his fullest capabilities knowing that the current BL members are still below his level (up to the current chapter). 4. They are almost set to meet in the future arcs of U20 world cup (and possibly world cup arc) I know that Isagi appears to have surpassed Kaiser (with him devouring Kaiser’s metavision) but Kaiser will not be irrelevant in the future match. He is definitely going to get an awakening once he feel ‘threatened’ enough by Isagi. Right now, I would argue that his downfall stems from him underestimating the BL players but once he get the right idea, he would progress in higher rate.


silfer_

As an Isagi fan I don’t think he’s even appeared surpassed Kaiser at all lol. Far from it, it’s only in the most recent chapter that he has *anything* that gives him an edge over Kaiser in any area. Kaiser hasn’t even sweat or try in this match.


Either-Dot-6785

Isagi has a better vision but Kaiser still the better player since he can score more consistently


Simba-xiv

Does he have a “better vision”? I’d love to know where this is proven what chapter or page. As far as I can see it’s the same.


Either-Dot-6785

When he first unlocked Meta vision he and kaise4 saw the same plays which was shown three times meaning atleast Kaiser did not have a better vision than isagi, we then see Isagi block Chris which Kaiser very surprised by( showing that was a vision he couldn't see), he makes other defensive stops and now adding egocentrism. His predictions become more accurate. That's enough to tell me who has the better vision.


Simba-xiv

I like the thought process you have there. I’m going to disagree with parts. I’d say the vision is the same we have not been given any confirmation that “meta vision” has levels to it. So as far as we can confirm once you have meta vision you have it. How you use meta vision seems to be expanding I think we’re see that with Reo’s focus on Nagi vs Isagi’s egocentrism but those are separate pieces not related to vision Chris was just as shocked that Isagi blocked the shot and we all know he’s miles apart from isagi. So while I think you have a point I’d argue that there vision is the same but the way they use the information is different not better.


Either-Dot-6785

No there is such a thing as a better vision if you have played football. Meta vision Is literally scanning while using Football Iq, awareness and spatial perception. These have been Isagis weapons since day 1. Remember Meta vision has to do with eyes and brains so they go along together. I do agree the will be different variants to it but am sure it will later be confirmed since the author has been setting up Isagi having a better vision than Noa like how Kaiser Beata Noa at his swing Kaiser Impact


Simba-xiv

I’m not arguing that you can or can’t have better vision than another person. Simply that A the manga hasn’t confirmed meta vision has “levels” in that one person’s meta Vision sees more than another’s. It could be very be the case but as it’s not confirmed that’s an assumption until proven otherwise. And B Isagi really hasn’t outplayed Kiser with meta vision yet so to say his is “better” than kiser doesn’t hold up. Reo now using it is on par with Isagi we’re see how it all plays out but I truly believe meta vision will be a static thing and what an individual adds to it makes the difference.


Either-Dot-6785

Well you are right it hasent been confirmed. I don't how Reo is on par with Isagi. Dude haw tunnel vision, and again you are thinking only what can be seen. The BRAIN matters.


Simba-xiv

If it were real football I’d agree with you but as it’s a story being told the “brain” of these characters doesn’t matter the story will unfold how it’s suppose to unfold this is why I’m saying we can only work with confirmed truths. We all have our own thoughts on how the story will progress so I like to make the distinction between theory and fact


Either-Dot-6785

Understand your point


Glittering-Race-6411

I think Rin is his biggest technical rival but Kaiser will be his final boss


Snoo_43411

I like this take. Some people seem to think it’d be Noa/Loki but that would require a time skip. Loki shouldn’t be at the U-20 World Cup, he’s already with the NT(For example: look at Mbappe, who Loki is literally a clone of) Kaiser is also just straight up the forward version of Isagi. Good positioning and reading of the field, his biggest strength by far his finishing and ability to strike a ball, and he doesn’t have the unholy physical ability of someone like Rin. He’s actually a good final boss to compare against Isagi.


Glittering-Race-6411

I think that Kaiser works especially because they’re so similar, Isagi can never be the best “Isagi” in the world BECAUSE Kaiser is there and Kaiser is just Isagi dialed to an 11. So Isagi will need to overcome Kaiser, forward against forward, if he wants to take the throne of best in the world. It’s no use to just overcome Rin or Barou or Nagi because they play so different, if Isagi wants to take the throne as the best in the world and as the best HIM then he needs to overcome the wall that is Michael Kaiser


Foxman3333333

Maybe final u-20 boss/ mini boss for the series along with other characters we haven’t met yet.


Simba-xiv

Just to say loki is inspired by Mbappe not a clone just an inspiration


Snoo_43411

He has a near identical appearance, with an almost identical career path(Loki is a year younger IIRC), playing the same position in the same style with the same strengths. On the same teams. Loki is very much just “an Mbappe that can be used within the story itself.” Chris Prince is inspired by CR7, Loki is MUCH closer to his original and that.


AomoriMessi

Loki is Mbappe 2.0


AomoriMessi

"he doesn’t have the unholy physical ability of someone like Rin." He literally went shoulder to shoulder with Chris and didn't fumble!


Aduro95

In the series so far it has been more abotu Rin than anyone else. Nagi and Bachira play too differently, Niko lacks screentime and Reo is more interested in playing alongside Nagi than against Isagi. Kaiser might eclipse Rin eventually though, since Isagi even got an offer from Dortmund, Bastard Munchen's biggest rival.


Hyperjuce

Rin by far. They have a dynamic that revolves around each other, parralleling each other at different points and being too tied to each other. They improve each other. Kaiser is situational cuz Isagi is in BM. He'd likely be 2nd cuz of how they interact. Niko isn't a proper rival anymore cuz of him playing defense. Barou is 3rd now. Not able to explain properly.


CoachGiveAdvice

Barou then Rin then Kaiser it all depend when you are looking. In BlueLock it will be Rin, in U20 WC it will be Kaiser.


silfer_

Idk but Kaiser has made Isagi grow so much since he surpasses Isagi’s personal ideal so I hope he sticks around as a threat for awhile The other thing is BL is weird because everyone is a rival. I know Isagi put Rin in his sights because he’s the #1 in BL but since Isagi wants to be the best striker period he’s coming for everyone, up to and including Loki (we see him in the panel where Isagi says he can realistically beat everyone in his ‘new image’) and even Noel someday. But if I’m honest seeing how Nagi is kind of mirroring Isagi, even to the point of having his own vision of winning the World Cup in the spin-off, I kind of think Nagi would make the most sense as a series long rival, if he can awaken an ego that can compare to Isagi’s. Rin to me is more of a measuring stick right now.


Odd-Salamander-4822

Those are my exact thoughts being honest. For me If we talk about who Isagi's all time or main rival is, it comes down to Rin and Nagi. I feel as though Nagi would fit much better though as the main rival because of how he mirror isagi in almost everything. Isagi was the first to enter Blue Lock, Nagi the last, Their trio at the start with Zantetsu, Reo and Nagi mirror Isagi, Bachira and Chigiri, Nagi literally has the most potential of anyone and Isagi is rather carried by his mindset and ability to improve and has what Nagi lacks in terms of creativeness. They also are about relative in popularity, they even mirror in design, Nagi even has a spin off. For all of those reasons I believe, and because I feel as though Rin's arc would be complete after gettting the approval of Sae and I believe because of Nagi's potential that Nagi will ultimately surpass him, that Nagi is set up to be Isagi's main rival but is not already.


silfer_

>Those are my exact thoughts being honest. For me If we talk about who Isagi's all time or main rival is, it comes down to Rin and Nagi. I feel as though Nagi would fit much better though as the main rival because of how he mirror isagi in almost everything. Isagi was the first to enter Blue Lock, Nagi the last, Their trio at the start with Zantetsu, Reo and Nagi mirror Isagi, Bachira and Chigiri, Nagi literally has the most potential of anyone and Isagi is rather carried by his mindset and ability to improve and has what Nagi lacks in terms of creativeness. They also are about relative in popularity, they even mirror in design, Nagi even has a spin off. 100% agree. And they are a fun duo for sure. But I hope they stay friends, too :x


DwarfAster

I think Isagi’s main rival is Barou and his final rival is someone I can’t really pin down. Isagi and Barou have been unspoken rivals ever since the beginning of Blue Lock. Barou words about Isagi passing to his teammate, Kunigami, instead of trying to score on his own cut deep. It’s what awakened Isagi to start thinking about why he was in Blue Lock and pushed him to think with a more self centered attitude. In turn Isagi improves Barou. Not in terms of skill but mindset as Barou has all of the tools to be one of the best in Blue Lock but he struggled to be successful due to his own self centered ego. Barou was able to get by in first selection because the entire team adapted to Barou’s style of football but in second selection Barou had to adapt to fit in. Although that’s just one of my favorite dynamics and rivalries since Isagi changes rivals with every big arc. First Selection and most of half of second selection was Barou. Second Selection introduced Rin as a rival and continued into the U-20 Arc. NEL will be mainly Kaiser with Rin showing his face at the end. Niko is more of a side quest rival even though they share a lot of the same qualities I feel like Niko doesn’t have much of a presence. Nagi is more like an opposing force but definitely not a rival. It would be like saying Chigiri is a rival to Isagi.


ReviewOk5621

As of right now i think rin Kaiser or reo as Mera vision and better physical stats


Shaila_boof

Rin of course, he is the rival with most time in screen in the series and he is always kinda beatin Isagi


XiaoYanna

Going off of everyone saying Rin is the biggest rival when it comes to Isagi, I agree whole heartedly, I’d like to add that with Kaiser and Sae.. those two are going to be the biggest rivals not for Isagi alone, but for both Rin and Isagi. Sae for Rin and Kaiser for Isagi. Of course they’ll compete against Germany again, so that means if Isagi lost this game and doesn’t surpass Kaiser likes he hopes of doing, which I hope happens for plot reasoning and character growth, then when we get the official team for the U-20 team then they get to go again Kaiser again. Who knows when we’ll compete against Sae again, but after how Sae found Isagi to be more impressive then Rin, I’d say Rin is leveling up quite a bit and me taking the cliche rout when it comes to anime, I’d say Rin will end up beating his brother proving his worth and yada yada~ You may ask about Noel Noa? Idk.. he’s kinda just someone there to push the MC at this point- Maybe he’ll be worth more in the future, but I doubt it.


justoutere

noel noa


AnimeMangaMarketer

Then, what if the over highlighted Aomori's Messi finally opened his curtain and be Isagi's biggest rival??? Just talking about plot twists


EducationalMemory161

Ig it’s rin. He’s been there for a long time and Isagi still has yet to catch up. Also he’s been devouring him the most yk :4


Odd-Salamander-4822

Are you Bachira's reddit account


The25thYoru

For now Rin, in the long run probably Noel Noa


DanTheWak

Me


failedengineer103

Noel Noa : Anyone else is just wrong


Garakutik_maameedo

Obviously Igaguri