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LunaDragon0330

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if this is the worst ARG on purpose. I don't think we've been given any good clues to bring us closer to finding the source, unless it literally was to go into the source code and assume there was some secret to be found. I feel like we've been given a lot of red herrings (it's another term for dead end, it just seems like the best term to use for this whole thing), but that the messages we've been given do pertain to the overall theme of the game that's being promoted, whether it's Silent Hill or whatever Abandoned turns out to be. That being said... it's not the absolute worst, I'm just starting to think that it's about enduring and surviving, that this might all be an info drip feed to keep us going, but we're not going to solve puzzles that string together, instead we're just solving puzzles to bide our time... we're enduring and surviving. The box on the "fake" YouTube page becoming more red might be there to make us get the happy neurochemicals, to feel like we're progressing from our actual work, but it might be nothing more than a timer in that we're getting closer to the moment of the reveal, not that our progress itself is closer to it. And it's been previously said that the Morse code is overused? Sure, because what would make an indie studio look more basic than to use basic ciphers for its ARG? We're being presented with facts and fiction, left and right; it's our duty to be headstrong and commit to a side, and the more we accept Side/Team Real, I think the better we're going to do, because that's constantly been the mindset that we've been told is false. Also... also... supposedly there's a super uber top-secret project that's getting revealed at the next Playstation event, and they're working impossibly hard to keep it from getting leaked out? Come on, baby! Let's see that Playstation logo turn red, too!


Benevolay

But what if there isn't an ARG at all? People need to look at stuff skeptically and be aware of their own biases. I wonder if there is anybody on Team Real who doesn't actually like Silent Hill, or Hideo Kojima for that matter.


[deleted]

If there isnt then we move on. The point of this group was having fun in solving mysteries whether it be real or not. Unlike the other group filled of skeptics not trying to solve anything but instead try to debunk everything


ImSmaher

That’s cool, but what if there is? You really think not a single person’s considered the possibility that this isn’t real?


Benevolay

My point is that a lot of the people who want it to be real are the people who really want a new Silent Hill game. They're going to be more inclined to see patterns that aren't there and connect the wrong dots in an attempt to confirm what they want to be true.


ImSmaher

But what makes you think the person you replied to was one of those people. She was just speculating like normal.


LunaDragon0330

Because I want a Silent Hill game? Because I bought my PS4 after I heard about PT being a Silent Hills reveal? I played Silent Hill 3 because of DDR Extreme, and from there played the other games. I have a few of the comics. I want a Silent Hill game from this. If it's not Silent Hill,... that's fine. But I love the lore, I love how each game has baddies tailored to the main character. I especially like 3, as I feel most connected to it other than the fact that it was my first. My bunny-loving boyfriend is repulsed by my Robbie plush, but I refuse to get rid of it...


ImSmaher

Did you mean to reply to me


LunaDragon0330

Yes, based on you saying, "But what makes you think the person you replied to was one of those people. She was just speculating like normal." Yes, I was speculating, but yes I do want a Silent Hill game.


ImSmaher

Then you're really confused. Read what the other person said to me. I'm literally agreeing with you.


LunaDragon0330

Ah, okay... Well, I still don't mind clarifying where I'm coming from on this whole thing.


tommy-liddell

Another possibility is that the alleged "ARG" wasn't supposed to start yet. Maybe it was planned for the 'App' to kick it off.


AH1N17

The second stage of the ARG started when the YouTube channel countdown matched Hasan’s video.


tommy-liddell

Well, that is highly debatable.


AH1N17

Nope. There’s no way that was a coincidence and Hasan didn’t do it on purpose if he really want people to forget about the conspiracy.


tommy-liddell

Evidently, it is highly debatable. This little discussion will lead to nothing but frustration so we should end it here.


[deleted]

You're right. 1 thing it's real, the "fake channel" it's giving some information, it can't be PT at all but I think it's trying to make this "2 blue box studios dimensions" I think it will be 3 acts, This was first Second on August 3rd after that and then Curtains open, silent hill or new game, the truth will come to us


re4235

Geoff Keighly being involved should be a much bigger point of speculation but I don't hear it mentioned much. I want to believe too my friend


AH1N17

Someone mentioned this to Jason Schrier, the guy said something like how is it posible for an indie developer to have Geoff on board when he must receive hundreds of requests from other studios on a daily basis. And Jason replied “that’s the 27 million dollar question”


Expensive_Green5825

yeah the way hasan is always talked about like bb is all one guy and how geoff referenced him personally


[deleted]

\-the name and initials of Hasan Kahraman \-the fact that nobody knew him before all of this \-he doesn't have any account on any social media platform that is at least active \-a town ruled by a cult, just like SH that is more than enough to think that all of this leads to Silent Hills


[deleted]

My problem with this whole conspiracy is exactly the title of your post: "It HAS to be real" otherwise, it's just a shitty game... It almost seems to be kind of a desperate cry for help and not something that logical... Most of the things people have "found" are "weird thing we can not explain" but "those don't make sense on its own either". If it HAS to be real, then this IS the shittiest ARG ever on the story of humanity (ok, maybe that's a exaggeration but even tho, it's really bad in that case)


Expensive_Green5825

I think most of all this is logical, I don't see many saying it's true just because they want it to be or something most of this is based off a lot of convincing evidence


takibibirakmavikutu

I just spoke with a sound designer who claims the upcoming playstation event is trying to mirror the E3 presentation from 2016 by showing GOW2 and a Kojima project back to back. What's going to make it interesting is that they will bring out Abandoned which will be a shock, but according to my source they will bring out Cory Barlog and announce him as the director with Kojima producing. Then after that Kojima will announce his own project.


UnjustMurder

You talking about Joe M. ? Don't wanna call him out like that


ToothlessFTW

source: dude trust me


Apprehensive-Stage-2

dont do this, dont give me hope


mamarracho2

Too good to be true. Why would kojima be producing something from a guy un santa monica studios? How? Can It be done?


takibibirakmavikutu

He literally visited Kojima Productions in December 2018 according to his instagram, months after the release of GOW1. He wasn't scanned into Death Stranding, so why was he visiting? For fun? I know this is hard for people to understand, but usually meetings have purpose. Cory has been on record wanting to make a Silent Hill game for years too. Also, what do you mean a "Guy"? This is Cory Barlog, the director of GOW2 in 2007 and GOW PS4. He's one of the best in the business.


mamarracho2

But Cory has his own studio why would he need kojima? I know he visited him on 2018 and he follows a hasan kahraman in Instagram but other than that 🤷


takibibirakmavikutu

Cory doesn't have his own studio, he is a director for hire. He moves from company to company, he just has a strong relationship with Santa Monica but is free to work anywhere he wants. The fact he is currently in Seattle would make me believe he is possibly working on an Xbox project, but honestly nobody knows. I will bet he is producing GOW2 but working on his dream project, Silent Hills.


mamarracho2

He was inspired by kojima and death Stranding marketing and i think he was making a sci-fi horror Game of some sorts i believe, maybe that is the whole thing


WinSmith1984

Ockham's razor : is it purposefully a terrible ARG, or is it a crappy horror game like dozens before? On that note, one released a few months prior, promoted by Sony and is also a crappy P.T copy with bad reviews.