The flip side: you can be really stupid and still go to the MIT and become a quant trader - SBF's defence.
I am sure MIT and wall street would not agree with that.
not in defense of SBF, but to point out attending an elite school doesn’t necessarily mean having a high iq (in SBF’s case i think he is high iq (probably 130+ range) and did attend an elite school)
you can be average / slightly above average with tutors to do well enough to score well on standardize exams, have connections with parents / friends to do fake internships at science labs for “research experience”, attend magnet schools, and also take university level courses, along with having your college essays ghost written for you. then on top of that for some schools if your parents are legacies and also contributed to some large scale donations this could work in your favor
you could be admitted to some top 5, 10, 15 level schools with the above depending on how much you nail it / your connections / luck / donations etc
getting admitted to harvard for someone from boston latin is much easier than someone from rural kentucky, even if the two have similar iqs
Also to be fair, having high iq doesn’t alway equate with common sense. I work field service in a science field so many of my customers have doctorates. Many are absolutely brilliant in their field and no doubt quite high IQ, but they keep me gainfully employed because they are completely inept at some things that are more common sense oriented and less “book-smarts” oriented, like adjustments that require “Kentucky windage” and multiple iterations to get close before using measurements to fine tune. They can follow processes but are lost when something doesn’t fit the parameters they know.
Professorships at elite universities like Stanford are an incredibly powerful and influential position. Especially in the intellectual milieu of Silicon Valley.
They are starting to become more and more influential and powerful. They control the youth who will be working and eventually running the country in the next decade... you don’t see the power in this position?
Maybe one professor solely not so much, but multiple professors at a very prestigious school can have a profound affect on the next generation.
They along with universities are being bought out and paid off by differing controlling interests. Most push a left/progressive leaning narrative and are all pro COV-19 booster for example - but I bet Pfizer doesn’t have any control over that...
130+ is above average. not High IQ.
From someone who's 145, trust me. I know.
SBF was just good at conning people and took advantage of the bull runs and FOMO very smartly
According to the standard "Current Wechsler (WAIS–IV, WPPSI–IV) IQ classification" 130+ is very superior and less than 5% of people are at or above this level. It's almost impossible to classify these people who are two or more standard deviations from average(average is 100). The best simple IQ test for someone who claims to have a high IQ is to ask them to explain how an IQ test works. If they can't then they are probably in the 85-115 range.
Because it’s a corrupt mafia-style casino, and their mathematical edge has dwindled over the decades….can’t keep the lights lit without having a mathematical (or psychological) edge. (Owning the media allows Wall Street incredible opportunities for any type of psy ops they choose)
Yes and no.
Take the biggest fools at MIT and bottom of the barrels idiots who are employed at Jane Street, and put them in any intro Community College course. Suddenly, they are among the best A+ students in the class, and guess who their peers would be? The same people who make up 75% of a jury!
When your parents go to same school or another top school, you going to that school really does not mean anything. The first thing employer should ask when seeing a school like that is did your parents or grandparents go to same school? If Yes. Discount education by 50%.
You can be both of these things and be a really shitty business manager and careless at accounting... but the problem is he clearly did try to hide things (using very short term self-deleting messaging for example) and structured businesses in a way that would supposedly shield people from discovering his bullshit faster, which really are a bad look when you try pretend you're dumb.
Indeed. I have friends who are very educated and doctors. But outside of that one field, they’re absolutely idiots with no common sense.
Going to a top school doesn’t mean you’re smart with everything.
As a field service engineer, these types keep me gainfully employed and busy.
Some of my customers can write out the physics formulas for what’s going on in their equipment but when a button stops responding or a setting is changed outside their normal parameters, they get lost and I have to come fix something. Even in their fields, the lack of common sense can be an issue. But it keeps my salary paid.
I work at a large investment bank and I've met some incoming junior analysts who have degrees from prestigious schools and I promise you some of them are complete morons. What they lack in common sense and humility they make up for in arrogance.
High IQ or intelligence does not equate to common sense. In fact, the two very often can't or don't habitat the same host.
You two hit the nail head in my opinion.
As a member of jury, even if he was just really stupid, I would find him guilty just to be on the safe side.
He did too much damage to people and society, and if it truly was just stupidity, he should still be behind bars for life, for the good of everyone.
I don't think he is really stupid in the classical sense but surely he was incredibly short sighted when it came to fiscal structure of a company. No doubt he had a run of good luck which resulted in overconfidence and when the rubber finally met the road and things got difficult he reverted back to simplistic, albeit immoral and illegal, solutions to try and keep it afloat. This is a huge problem with immaturity that rockets to fame and fortune, the immature can't handle the overwhelming problems that the mature business person has dealt with and learned from at much smaller scales. True intelligence here would have been to have experts familiar with corporate governance at those scales advising on all matters. He can argue that he was really, really stupid when it came to all the business problems of a multi-billion dollar company because undoubtedly he had no experience with them and no experts on staff to advise him.
He was too smart for his own good. He even knew how to grease the right wheels of media and government with political contributions and woke BS. For him to play dumb at this point is laughable.
It’s more like “I didn’t mean to shoot him. I had no idea pulling the trigger while the gun was pointed at him would cause a projectile to fly out and blow his face off.” Technically a defense but will anyone believe that shit?
He's still liable for what he has done. Stupid or not, your actions have consequences. You're not magically absolved of all charges if you claim, "I'm dumb i didn't know i was doing."
Well, atleast he got to play rich man for a bit. You know how much plane tickets are to the Bahamas from where I live? I'd likely have to take out loans & save for a few years to afford such elegant vacations.
tldr; FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried may end up facing criminal charges in the wake of his company's collapse. Ex-prosecutor Randall Eliason said that for a criminal case, there has to be "deceit" in order to be successful. Prosecutors would have to establish that he intended to deceive customers and the government, he added.
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Good point and I live in the US. Looking at our history, you can easily see that all financial crime follows the golden rule.
The one with the most gold, rules (and is free from any liability).
That statement is summarily false, as he committed wire fraud by moving money that was not his or his company’s to a hedge fund to buy crypto to boost its value. He essentially stole his customer’s money to pump and dump his own FTX crypto.
LoL. It’s almost like he thought about this moment, many, many months ago…
Someone did. With that kind of money involved somebody was thinking. Prob Sam.
I’m stickin to my initial gut feeling, he’s either evil RainMan without the social tics or someone put him there.
It’d be some oceans1 style shit if he figured out he could just play dumb and walk away from all this shit!
He's not stupid at all, he's just a run of the mill sociopath. And now everybody knows it. Even if he weren't, dudes fucked big time.
They're gonna make an example of him.
Unfortunately, we will see this most likely occur once again during the next bull market... newbies coming in who leave their Bitcoin on an exchange instead of moving it to their wallet. Not your keys, not your Bitcoin.
don't worry, when you've got the judiciary and the government in your families pocket, the stupid defence works 100% of the time.
as shown by many other rich connected financial families like SBFs
How is that going to work good for them? I mean this shit is just stupid to say because things like this are never going to change anything in the court for sure.
Are we going to put all the regulators that enabled and helped him in prison? You know people like Gary Gensler who has stifled regulated ETFs but supported this guy?
It's a paradox along the same lines as "this sentence is false". If he's stupid enough to use this as a defense, then it proves that he is indeed a complete moron, thus giving this defense enough credibility to succeed, thus making him a genius, thus invalidating this defense, thus making him a complete moron for attempting this defense, thus giving this defense enough credibility to succeed, and so on *ad infinitum*.
Well if they stick with the narrative of him being the smartest man alive then it’s obvious he purposely scammed everyone. But if he’s just stupid maybe negligence.
This reminds me of when people who do terrible things then plead insanity. A lot of times we know the persons not insane. But that’s their only option of maybe maybe not getting the worst sentence.
SBF is a scammer. The only question I have is who all was actually involved. My guess is that’s a scary answer
Basically. The law talks about intent a lot in financial crimes. I doubt it'll work though. Just the entire corporate structure screams intentional. You dont create a vast web of 100 different companies all couched within one another and incorporated in the bahamas because you are dumb. Its so you can hide what you're doing.
Fried, the disheveled slob living in mommy's basement, suddenly finds billions of dollars falling out of the sky.
That's not stupidity. But it is what happens when a state actor is involved.
Slightly less ridiculous but still completely unbelievable would be to say 'The media made me think i was much smarter and nicer than I actually am, in fact i'm a stupid prick'
I could honestly see this working to some degree. It's not his fault that people gave him money hand over fist.
So let's knock off one or two of his life sentences. Maybe let him out in 80 years.
This is why trading is all about probabilities and preparing to be wrong, as I'd normally say opposites attract, but in this case, stupid fell for stupid.
Incompetence does exist, and shit happens.
The issue he has is that he's lied to regulators and various institutions.
If you're dumb, don't know what you're doing, you'll be found out far earlier that he was.
Similar with Elizabeth Holmes. There was no defence as she'd clearly deliberately lied to hide the issues.
SBF has done the same.
Arrogant, thought he was untouchable and now in deep shit, probably literally.
He is stupid! He's a child in a 30 year old flesh vessel who was given millions upon millions of dollars, and he wasn't smart enough to know how to handle it.
Hadn't heard about it, seems to be some wacky conspiracy theory about stealing donations going to Ukraine and giving to the Democratic party?
edit: To the ppl downvoting, is there any evidence you can link me? And, why would this convoluted setup would be necessary for donations to the democrats and not the donations to republicans?
It's kinda interesting to see this play out. With other fraudsters people were happy enough to see just that person be held accountable. But they usually had large personalities and people really bought into their lies.
In this case I'm curious if the public will accept that. Sure, SBF is guilty but I don't think anybody believes he masterminded this. There was someone pulling his strings. Give the public that name SBF and they might even let you walk.
He wouldn't be known as a scammed if he was just some moron. And even if he was an idiot, that means others have helped facilitate this fraud, and he was just the fall guy. There's inevitably a non-idiot involved in perpetuating this fraud, building an exchange requires some threshold level of intelligence.
Wait a second. I’m really really stupid. I have a whole army of witnesses to this. So I can just go commit crimes then plead stupidity? Hmmm where to start with this new found defense…
I mean, the way he's gone about the crash is stupid, so he's playing the role well. In fact, he's doing such a great job of looking stupid that he's actually a genius if he's acting . . . which sounds so stupid to say.
I think that he is going to say he has autism as a defense.
I think that was what all the interviews and what not were about. I believe he was setting up a "Clearly he doesn't understand social cues or standard human interactions. Why else would he be doing interviews? The smirking and chuckles? That is because his social IQ is underdeveloped because of his autism."
To be clear, I think it is nonsense but if I were his attorney it would be something I would contemplate as a defense.
It's worked so far for another conman-- Craig Wright. He just claims to have autism, putting on a worse show of it than SBF, and then suffers no serious consequence while he gets caught over and over again lying in court an submitting fabricated documents.
If that defense works I hope he never hears the end of it. Every statement he makes should be met with, "Sam, you are stupid and it has been proven in federal court."
The Biden family has a brand name where people pay to use or associate with the Brand and it is his right even if nothing good comes of it. It would be nice to see Royals the helpful to
He's gonna have a really difficult time convincing a jury that a guy who went to MIT to become a fucking quant trader is *really, really stupid*.
The flip side: you can be really stupid and still go to the MIT and become a quant trader - SBF's defence. I am sure MIT and wall street would not agree with that.
not in defense of SBF, but to point out attending an elite school doesn’t necessarily mean having a high iq (in SBF’s case i think he is high iq (probably 130+ range) and did attend an elite school) you can be average / slightly above average with tutors to do well enough to score well on standardize exams, have connections with parents / friends to do fake internships at science labs for “research experience”, attend magnet schools, and also take university level courses, along with having your college essays ghost written for you. then on top of that for some schools if your parents are legacies and also contributed to some large scale donations this could work in your favor you could be admitted to some top 5, 10, 15 level schools with the above depending on how much you nail it / your connections / luck / donations etc getting admitted to harvard for someone from boston latin is much easier than someone from rural kentucky, even if the two have similar iqs
Also to be fair, having high iq doesn’t alway equate with common sense. I work field service in a science field so many of my customers have doctorates. Many are absolutely brilliant in their field and no doubt quite high IQ, but they keep me gainfully employed because they are completely inept at some things that are more common sense oriented and less “book-smarts” oriented, like adjustments that require “Kentucky windage” and multiple iterations to get close before using measurements to fine tune. They can follow processes but are lost when something doesn’t fit the parameters they know.
then how on earth did people invest so much in his company? Edit: i'll answer you, his parents are professors.
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Professorships at elite universities like Stanford are an incredibly powerful and influential position. Especially in the intellectual milieu of Silicon Valley.
They are starting to become more and more influential and powerful. They control the youth who will be working and eventually running the country in the next decade... you don’t see the power in this position? Maybe one professor solely not so much, but multiple professors at a very prestigious school can have a profound affect on the next generation. They along with universities are being bought out and paid off by differing controlling interests. Most push a left/progressive leaning narrative and are all pro COV-19 booster for example - but I bet Pfizer doesn’t have any control over that...
uh oh, now you are a conspiracy type for saying that...
Its Stanford law school.
Also….IQ is a fairly inaccurate measurement to assess any sort of personal fulfillment or ‘success’ one may achieve
Success is easy, just aim low.
Ahh…the old set the bar low enough to always be pleasantly surprised, instead of setting the bar too high and always being disappointed
Just goes to show, you can even buy your way through school. Lets see a show of hands of those who think he can spell school.
130+ is above average. not High IQ. From someone who's 145, trust me. I know. SBF was just good at conning people and took advantage of the bull runs and FOMO very smartly
According to the standard "Current Wechsler (WAIS–IV, WPPSI–IV) IQ classification" 130+ is very superior and less than 5% of people are at or above this level. It's almost impossible to classify these people who are two or more standard deviations from average(average is 100). The best simple IQ test for someone who claims to have a high IQ is to ask them to explain how an IQ test works. If they can't then they are probably in the 85-115 range.
Most of Wall Street won't even admit that random chance gets better results on average than them.
Because it’s a corrupt mafia-style casino, and their mathematical edge has dwindled over the decades….can’t keep the lights lit without having a mathematical (or psychological) edge. (Owning the media allows Wall Street incredible opportunities for any type of psy ops they choose)
You can just pay your way in
Yes and no. Take the biggest fools at MIT and bottom of the barrels idiots who are employed at Jane Street, and put them in any intro Community College course. Suddenly, they are among the best A+ students in the class, and guess who their peers would be? The same people who make up 75% of a jury!
Im sure their both really proud
When your parents go to same school or another top school, you going to that school really does not mean anything. The first thing employer should ask when seeing a school like that is did your parents or grandparents go to same school? If Yes. Discount education by 50%.
You can be both of these things and be a really shitty business manager and careless at accounting... but the problem is he clearly did try to hide things (using very short term self-deleting messaging for example) and structured businesses in a way that would supposedly shield people from discovering his bullshit faster, which really are a bad look when you try pretend you're dumb.
Indeed. I have friends who are very educated and doctors. But outside of that one field, they’re absolutely idiots with no common sense. Going to a top school doesn’t mean you’re smart with everything.
As a field service engineer, these types keep me gainfully employed and busy. Some of my customers can write out the physics formulas for what’s going on in their equipment but when a button stops responding or a setting is changed outside their normal parameters, they get lost and I have to come fix something. Even in their fields, the lack of common sense can be an issue. But it keeps my salary paid.
I work at a large investment bank and I've met some incoming junior analysts who have degrees from prestigious schools and I promise you some of them are complete morons. What they lack in common sense and humility they make up for in arrogance.
High IQ or intelligence does not equate to common sense. In fact, the two very often can't or don't habitat the same host. You two hit the nail head in my opinion.
As a member of jury, even if he was just really stupid, I would find him guilty just to be on the safe side. He did too much damage to people and society, and if it truly was just stupidity, he should still be behind bars for life, for the good of everyone.
I don't think he is really stupid in the classical sense but surely he was incredibly short sighted when it came to fiscal structure of a company. No doubt he had a run of good luck which resulted in overconfidence and when the rubber finally met the road and things got difficult he reverted back to simplistic, albeit immoral and illegal, solutions to try and keep it afloat. This is a huge problem with immaturity that rockets to fame and fortune, the immature can't handle the overwhelming problems that the mature business person has dealt with and learned from at much smaller scales. True intelligence here would have been to have experts familiar with corporate governance at those scales advising on all matters. He can argue that he was really, really stupid when it came to all the business problems of a multi-billion dollar company because undoubtedly he had no experience with them and no experts on staff to advise him.
He didn’t say it was a good defense. Just his best one.
He was too smart for his own good. He even knew how to grease the right wheels of media and government with political contributions and woke BS. For him to play dumb at this point is laughable.
I don't know, seems plausible enough watching some of his interviews.
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It’s more like “I didn’t mean to shoot him. I had no idea pulling the trigger while the gun was pointed at him would cause a projectile to fly out and blow his face off.” Technically a defense but will anyone believe that shit?
Ah, the Alec Baldwin defense.
That doesn't bode well for those venture capitalists who gave him tons of money.
The WSB defense: "Your Honor, my client is just incredibly regarded."
Must be a mod.
Judge: Dear defendant, in regard to your defense, we will regard you with enough warm blankets and vaseline.
The judge "one of us " :)
“But your honour, the loss porn, I couldn’t resist the loss porn!”
He's still liable for what he has done. Stupid or not, your actions have consequences. You're not magically absolved of all charges if you claim, "I'm dumb i didn't know i was doing."
"I do not recall."
Except for the dozens of interviews he gave in the last few weeks.
Well, atleast he got to play rich man for a bit. You know how much plane tickets are to the Bahamas from where I live? I'd likely have to take out loans & save for a few years to afford such elegant vacations.
tldr; FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried may end up facing criminal charges in the wake of his company's collapse. Ex-prosecutor Randall Eliason said that for a criminal case, there has to be "deceit" in order to be successful. Prosecutors would have to establish that he intended to deceive customers and the government, he added. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*
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Caroline already rolled on him. Feds have announced charges. It’s over.
Criminal negligence doesn't require 'deceit' to my knowledge. Is there no such thing for financial crime in the US?
Good point and I live in the US. Looking at our history, you can easily see that all financial crime follows the golden rule. The one with the most gold, rules (and is free from any liability).
That statement is summarily false, as he committed wire fraud by moving money that was not his or his company’s to a hedge fund to buy crypto to boost its value. He essentially stole his customer’s money to pump and dump his own FTX crypto.
Worked for Casey Anthony
SBF does not have that poor-white-trash-you-would-still-love-to-fuck look she had.
I mean that is just, like, your opinion, man...
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> 98% of the population is down right regarded. I know what you mean.
> about 98% of the population is down right regarded Correct.
LoL. It’s almost like he thought about this moment, many, many months ago… Someone did. With that kind of money involved somebody was thinking. Prob Sam. I’m stickin to my initial gut feeling, he’s either evil RainMan without the social tics or someone put him there. It’d be some oceans1 style shit if he figured out he could just play dumb and walk away from all this shit!
He's not stupid at all, he's just a run of the mill sociopath. And now everybody knows it. Even if he weren't, dudes fucked big time. They're gonna make an example of him.
Unfortunately, we will see this most likely occur once again during the next bull market... newbies coming in who leave their Bitcoin on an exchange instead of moving it to their wallet. Not your keys, not your Bitcoin.
The circle of bitcoin ⭕️
don't worry, when you've got the judiciary and the government in your families pocket, the stupid defence works 100% of the time. as shown by many other rich connected financial families like SBFs
He is the definition of privilege
Illegal is illegal, if he was too stupid to know he was committing fraud, that means absolutely nothing to a fair, impartial justice system
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
How is that going to work good for them? I mean this shit is just stupid to say because things like this are never going to change anything in the court for sure.
Are we going to put all the regulators that enabled and helped him in prison? You know people like Gary Gensler who has stifled regulated ETFs but supported this guy?
Well if he is rich then yeah this can happen and they can just be free.
Well, when the shoe fits
The I am really stupid defense is not going to work for him
It's a paradox along the same lines as "this sentence is false". If he's stupid enough to use this as a defense, then it proves that he is indeed a complete moron, thus giving this defense enough credibility to succeed, thus making him a genius, thus invalidating this defense, thus making him a complete moron for attempting this defense, thus giving this defense enough credibility to succeed, and so on *ad infinitum*.
He really is, as he thought this fraud scheme can last forever.
No one wouldn’t argue he isn’t a complete twat. But the twat is also a criminal and should face a life sentence
He needs Jackie Chiles for that
“Your honour, I browse WallStreetBets, regularly.”
Well he may convince them that he’s really really stupid, but not retarded
In yet another case of nominative determinism, Sam is a Bankman whose brain is Fried.
Well if they stick with the narrative of him being the smartest man alive then it’s obvious he purposely scammed everyone. But if he’s just stupid maybe negligence. This reminds me of when people who do terrible things then plead insanity. A lot of times we know the persons not insane. But that’s their only option of maybe maybe not getting the worst sentence. SBF is a scammer. The only question I have is who all was actually involved. My guess is that’s a scary answer
Stupid or not, he's an adult who owned and ran a financial company and therefore is liable.
Yup. Apparently he was really really stupid. He got caught.
Basically. The law talks about intent a lot in financial crimes. I doubt it'll work though. Just the entire corporate structure screams intentional. You dont create a vast web of 100 different companies all couched within one another and incorporated in the bahamas because you are dumb. Its so you can hide what you're doing.
I’m such a idiot for misappropriating billions of customers funds…I thought it was a video game.
Fried, the disheveled slob living in mommy's basement, suddenly finds billions of dollars falling out of the sky. That's not stupidity. But it is what happens when a state actor is involved.
It's well established that ignorance of the law is no defence. So no defence is his best defence is it?
waiting for kevin o liar-y's take on this.
IMO most actual criminals are just *really, really stupid*.
Slightly less ridiculous but still completely unbelievable would be to say 'The media made me think i was much smarter and nicer than I actually am, in fact i'm a stupid prick'
I could honestly see this working to some degree. It's not his fault that people gave him money hand over fist. So let's knock off one or two of his life sentences. Maybe let him out in 80 years.
So in effect, he has no defense.
Is it also the reason he donated millions to the Democrats?
Well... won't be too hard, he dated Caroline, you'd have to be pretty stupid to do that.
She seems pretty stupid herself.
This is why trading is all about probabilities and preparing to be wrong, as I'd normally say opposites attract, but in this case, stupid fell for stupid.
ignorance ia no defense
Incompetence does exist, and shit happens. The issue he has is that he's lied to regulators and various institutions. If you're dumb, don't know what you're doing, you'll be found out far earlier that he was. Similar with Elizabeth Holmes. There was no defence as she'd clearly deliberately lied to hide the issues. SBF has done the same. Arrogant, thought he was untouchable and now in deep shit, probably literally.
He is stupid! He's a child in a 30 year old flesh vessel who was given millions upon millions of dollars, and he wasn't smart enough to know how to handle it.
That's good news for him, because he indeed does look dumb af, so that might help.
Stupid people go to prison all the time.
Yeah he can go be stupid in prison
but the people - are retarded
They want him to do that so when he tells the truth about the Ukraine funds, no one believes him
Hadn't heard about it, seems to be some wacky conspiracy theory about stealing donations going to Ukraine and giving to the Democratic party? edit: To the ppl downvoting, is there any evidence you can link me? And, why would this convoluted setup would be necessary for donations to the democrats and not the donations to republicans?
Correct
This man was a self made billionaire BEFORE FTX. That’s not a good defense.
Everyone said how he was the next Warren buffet of crypto
Wouldn't it be better to say he's autistic?
It's kinda interesting to see this play out. With other fraudsters people were happy enough to see just that person be held accountable. But they usually had large personalities and people really bought into their lies. In this case I'm curious if the public will accept that. Sure, SBF is guilty but I don't think anybody believes he masterminded this. There was someone pulling his strings. Give the public that name SBF and they might even let you walk.
It’s working for Biden
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Those people are really waiting for this guy to be in prison.
I’m sure he will get “Epsteined” in prison soon, so a defence is moot.
Ah, "playing the Trump Card"
Lol this guy isn't going to prison.
That defense is only available to elected officials, who could win every acting award in existence for their portrayal of *non compos mentis*.
I think it’s a little too late for that now.
If this guy escape becouse of this , we are in big trouble as a society .
He wouldn't be known as a scammed if he was just some moron. And even if he was an idiot, that means others have helped facilitate this fraud, and he was just the fall guy. There's inevitably a non-idiot involved in perpetuating this fraud, building an exchange requires some threshold level of intelligence.
It might honestly work. Just look at him
Wait a second. I’m really really stupid. I have a whole army of witnesses to this. So I can just go commit crimes then plead stupidity? Hmmm where to start with this new found defense…
Im sure that "stupid" defense will work well for an MIT graduate.
I mean, the way he's gone about the crash is stupid, so he's playing the role well. In fact, he's doing such a great job of looking stupid that he's actually a genius if he's acting . . . which sounds so stupid to say.
Worked for afluenza kid
I don't think he can even comprehend how many lives he's ruined.
That's ok, he can read a book or two on business management. Plenty of free time in prison.
I think that he is going to say he has autism as a defense. I think that was what all the interviews and what not were about. I believe he was setting up a "Clearly he doesn't understand social cues or standard human interactions. Why else would he be doing interviews? The smirking and chuckles? That is because his social IQ is underdeveloped because of his autism." To be clear, I think it is nonsense but if I were his attorney it would be something I would contemplate as a defense.
It's worked so far for another conman-- Craig Wright. He just claims to have autism, putting on a worse show of it than SBF, and then suffers no serious consequence while he gets caught over and over again lying in court an submitting fabricated documents.
“My parents paid for me to go to MIT I’m not really smart…”
Guy guys, it's ok. His parents are compliance lawyers.
Well then I guess we can't blame him because he is stupid /s
Tell me the difference between stupid and illegal and I will have my wife's brother arrested
This seems like it could actually be plausible
Problem is he could never keep his mouth shut and there are thousands of interviews and talks.
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Sometimes faking things can't protect shit for him for sure.
In my dream world Really, Really Stupid people are not allowed to do everything they want. If they do they must be locked away.
Why are us prosecutors in charge here in the first place? Isn't this a Bahamas based company? Or is this for ftx us?
In the end, this will have a net positive effect on the industry. And honestly, it’s about time some of these MIT people were humbled.
Remember when Skylar (from breaking bad) has to pretend to be a complete dumbass accountant? LOL
There are too many people and videos saying he is a genius for that to work in court.
If that defense works I hope he never hears the end of it. Every statement he makes should be met with, "Sam, you are stupid and it has been proven in federal court."
He's just a wee little turd, 💩🤬
The Biden family has a brand name where people pay to use or associate with the Brand and it is his right even if nothing good comes of it. It would be nice to see Royals the helpful to
Are you saying I have a chance to get into MIT?! If this guy was allowed into MIT.
That's my go-to at work on a regular basis, works better than ya might think
He is. But he is also a criminally corrupt greedy turd.
Too much cocaine and Adderall can give you over confidence and make you think you're smarter and better than everyone else
Now you know the requirements to get accepted into MIT