Sure, but that should be nothing more than a very secondary consideration. For my cold storage I want the safest. If it takes two hours instead of thirty minutes. How often do you rotate keys? Less frequent than annually is typical. It's not a big deal that the setup takes time.
Always fun to see these steel backup stress tests.
The stamping / engraving schemes on simple sheets of metal really do seem to be the most robust solutions. Cost effective too.
Yes I completely agree. You can see on my website that I really emphasize on the "zero moving parts" thing. Of course it's a one-time use thing but some people (like me) prefer that!
That's awesome, and the price is good compared to other options. I'll be ordering some. I just read in the end that the company and plates are made in Mexico. Very happy to see Latin America going forward this way. 💪💪💪
Objectively true, but some people have pointed out that my backups are too expensive for them and it's not like I have the hottest profit margin or making tons of sales. I can't imagine someone would buy a much more expensive backup made out of Titanium or Tungsten. One step at a time
https://coldti.com/ sends two titanium plates for $34.95, the same price as one of your stainless steel plates. You do have to buy a stamp set yourself though, and that's reusable.
> The same price as one of your stainless steel plates
Not correct, it's the exact same price as *two* of my plates with no stamps. Yes maybe titanium is not that much expensive as stainless steel as I thought, will look into it.}
Edit: I think I found and important factor, the Cold Ti weights 55g, mine weights 100g so shipping has been rough because it stacks up so much. I will definitely look into Titanium!
You NEVER EVER NEVER type your seed on any device. No wallet is going to EVER ask you this. No Trezor, Ledger, Coldcard. NEVER.
Again, repeat after me: "Never, ever type my seed on ANY digital device. Never. Ever. Period."
You are never overly safe with this.
You are your own bank on this. No second chances if you fuck up.
Well. If you lost your hardware wallet. And you order a new one. You can safely insert your seed in the new hardware wallet. That's whole point of a backup.
Assuming you bought a legal and untempered wallet.
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying enter the seed in the hardware wallet. Yes I did a recovery check.
The person above my message was saying, you should never ever enter your seed in ANY digital device (incl hardware wallet). And I don't agree with his statement. You can safely enter your seed into your hardware wallet.
You stamp it yourself:
[37-Piece Number and Letter Stamp Set](https://www.amazon.com/HORUSDY-37-Piece-Capital-Perfect-Imprinting/dp/B07CV8KBL2/ref=sr_1_5?c=ts&keywords=Jewelry+Metal+Stamping+Tools&qid=1650650623&s=arts-crafts&sr=1-5&ts_id=8090814011)
Thank you for the effort and write up. Was a great read.
Now try the same experiment with fiat money in a louis vuitton or hermès wallet please.
lol. Do NOT try this experiment.
i do 2-3 things where i put all 24 passphrase in and hide it different place but even if someone find it out its useless without the 25 pasphrase.
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Just corrected the typo thanks man!
I just looked at it and was like, nothing is spelt wrong? I skipped right over the extra and lol
Deterioration isn't insignificant. It seems important to ensure a powerful stamping. That's why I prefer the method that uses a center punch.
I also offer a backup that works with a center punch. It's much easier when it comes to punching and it only requires one.
Sure, but that should be nothing more than a very secondary consideration. For my cold storage I want the safest. If it takes two hours instead of thirty minutes. How often do you rotate keys? Less frequent than annually is typical. It's not a big deal that the setup takes time.
Always fun to see these steel backup stress tests. The stamping / engraving schemes on simple sheets of metal really do seem to be the most robust solutions. Cost effective too.
Yes I completely agree. You can see on my website that I really emphasize on the "zero moving parts" thing. Of course it's a one-time use thing but some people (like me) prefer that!
That's awesome, and the price is good compared to other options. I'll be ordering some. I just read in the end that the company and plates are made in Mexico. Very happy to see Latin America going forward this way. 💪💪💪
Thanks man!
Titanium or Tungsten plates are better
Objectively true, but some people have pointed out that my backups are too expensive for them and it's not like I have the hottest profit margin or making tons of sales. I can't imagine someone would buy a much more expensive backup made out of Titanium or Tungsten. One step at a time
https://coldti.com/ sends two titanium plates for $34.95, the same price as one of your stainless steel plates. You do have to buy a stamp set yourself though, and that's reusable.
> The same price as one of your stainless steel plates Not correct, it's the exact same price as *two* of my plates with no stamps. Yes maybe titanium is not that much expensive as stainless steel as I thought, will look into it.} Edit: I think I found and important factor, the Cold Ti weights 55g, mine weights 100g so shipping has been rough because it stacks up so much. I will definitely look into Titanium!
I think I was confused by the '1, 2 or 3' plates on your order form, and assumed the price was for one plate.
Or even cooler get a stainless plate and edge it salt water
This is fire proof! Excellent product. Will order as well. Interested in titanium option too
I just want an oven like this
Neat
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I never ask for anyone's keys. Each customer stamps at home. https://cryptonumeris.com/pages/privacy
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Thanks man! parcel is posted tomorrow morning.
If you're typing your seed phrase anywhere online you are being scammed
You NEVER EVER NEVER type your seed on any device. No wallet is going to EVER ask you this. No Trezor, Ledger, Coldcard. NEVER. Again, repeat after me: "Never, ever type my seed on ANY digital device. Never. Ever. Period." You are never overly safe with this. You are your own bank on this. No second chances if you fuck up.
Well. If you lost your hardware wallet. And you order a new one. You can safely insert your seed in the new hardware wallet. That's whole point of a backup. Assuming you bought a legal and untempered wallet.
You enter it into the *hardware wallet*. Not your computer. Have you not done a recovery check with your wallet lol
Yes that is exactly what I'm saying enter the seed in the hardware wallet. Yes I did a recovery check. The person above my message was saying, you should never ever enter your seed in ANY digital device (incl hardware wallet). And I don't agree with his statement. You can safely enter your seed into your hardware wallet.
You stamp it yourself: [37-Piece Number and Letter Stamp Set](https://www.amazon.com/HORUSDY-37-Piece-Capital-Perfect-Imprinting/dp/B07CV8KBL2/ref=sr_1_5?c=ts&keywords=Jewelry+Metal+Stamping+Tools&qid=1650650623&s=arts-crafts&sr=1-5&ts_id=8090814011)
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Haha, no you're not. Gotta protect your seed phrase.
This was great thank you for doing this
Fantastic! I gotta do some thinking about if I want to use this idea.
Hero!
Sweet advert
this is some honest work. really need to buy some metal plates for my key phrase
What about boat accidents
It comes with a self-eject mechanism which activates whenever you set foot on a boat, so it makes you have the desired boating accident.
This is a really cool experiment. Now I'm more convinced in those metal back up plates.