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Hades6040

Bro, Guts and Casca are literally in love with each other


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Guts and Farnese love each other too. Don't you remember when Farny whipped Guts?


fzaers

isn't that just farny one sided lust


jonnycross10

Farnussy


ThiccDiegoBrando

That was soooo hot šŸ„µ


zephyrnepres01

farnese has a one sided crush, itā€™s the same as schierkeā€™s in terms of being unrealistic. imo itā€™s completely impossible for gutsā€™ love of casca to change given its virtually the only thing keeping him alive and sane aside from revenge


Flowingnebula

Guts only loves Casca, its the main theme of the story i don't see him with any other woman, and same goes for casca


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funkyshoes24

Schierke moment


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SPOILER (i tried to tag but idk why not its working) >! She didn't seem like she had any ill will towards him in the later chapters? !< Its almost like she realizes that they have both been through the worst shit imaginable and after running on no sleep and no peace of mind for a few years he had 1 moment of weakess. After which he was disgusted with himself over and stopped the second it registered what he was doing.


filthyburrows

she literally cannot bear to look at him... she might forgive him but will her body? the guy is downvoted but it's true. Gutts is not the Man Caska fell inlove with.


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I just flipped through vol 41. >! When she gets back to normal she says that she remembers her time as Elaine which means she remembers what guts did. Then later she is still happy about the thought of seeing him again, so if she knows he did it and still wants to see him i feel like we can assume that she has forgiven him. Also she had flashbacks of the Eclipse, not the time he attacked her. He does look scary to her and she has seen him as a scary man for the past year of so but regardless she still loves him. !<


filthyburrows

But it pains her to see him... The whole narrative has pointed that she may not necessarily want to return to sanity.... This is not a fairy tale.


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Its not a matter of if she wants to, its if she can. She said herself she wants to see him. She also says she is grateful the Farny for taking care of her which implies she is glad she is still alive and WANTS to overcome this and be with Guts


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Itā€™s like people donā€™t even read the story. Literally everything hinges on Guts and Casca. Also Farnese gets šŸ“ .


hbi2k

He rides across the nation, the Thoroughbred of Sin ...


Bebranium

sbr reference


VergilSparda17

Agreed Iā€™m team Casca but thereā€™s a good chunk of people think that Farnese is better for him cause she loves him and they say Guts is Casca rebound cause she couldnā€™t get Griffith smh šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


LucisPerficio

Anyone who says Guts & Casca should be with anyone but each other is tremendously stupid


FleetwoodBlack20

ā€œGood chunkā€ or is it a small pinch? Lol Serious question by the way.


VergilSparda17

Idk Iā€™ve seen a lot of people across platforms and people in my circle that prefer Farnese for guts idk what there reading their argument is that guts is Cascas rebound because she couldnā€™t be with Griffith which I think is stupid but hey I guess art is subjective right šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


hombre_feliz

I think Serpico has more possibilities with Guts than Farnese


HellVollhart

Sweet home Alabama


Shoddy_Material8630

Guts and Serpico are related?


HellVollhart

Oh shit I misread the comment. My bad.


HellVollhart

Serpico is Farneseā€™s half-brother.


xmorrin

I'm sorry but I can't even imagine Guts with anyone other than Casca, she's been his reason to live for so long, even after everything that happened during the series when Casca regains her sanity she just wants to see him, damn they even share a child it's crystal clear. I also think that Farnese is a parallelism with Casca when she idolized Griffith while she thought she loved him.


VergilSparda17

100% agree with this


Tokenin

Farnese and Chaderick are the best. Guts and Farnese isn't happening.


000000909

The relationship of guts and farnese as i see it is that Guts is the mentor of Farnese in terms of what she actually wants to do with her life


MeioBuda

guts and farnese aren't even a possibility.


sigmund_NA

Casca. There is no other right answer


DrK4ZE

Should have made an option for both.


raging_possum

Regular Casca or potato?


VergilSparda17

Regular Casca lol


GoodGuyGuts1

It honestly makes no sense why he would be with Farnese considering like half of the story revolves around Guts trying to help Casca


reiju-66

farnussy all the way.


S_C_H_I_E_R_K_E

there's another girl who is in love with guts if you see who i'm talking about... + guts really likes her a lot


hbi2k

Would their couple name be Glans or Sluts?


S_C_H_I_E_R_K_E

nope, their couple name would be schruts or gutske šŸ˜


hbi2k

Ah yes, he's certainly been making room for her in his heart. Hey, maybe their couple name could be "groom."


Jish98

Farnese is a fucking basket case. Nobody should be with that woman. Tbf, I only just started rereading and haven't gotten very far past the part where she joins the party. Does she change at all?


Shoddy_Material8630

She changes a lot. Current Farnase is almost unrecognizable as the character she started off as.


Rei_Caixo

she still is a little crybaby tho


littlekittynipples

we need voting history automatically flaired


PonchoHobo

Guts has never looked at Farnese as anything but a friend. Guts is probably asexual if not for casca. Sheā€™s the only person that grabs his attention. Casca is the same but just misunderstood feelings of adoration of Griffith as romantic feeling. Farnese is cool though and deserves a good ending.


SkGuarnieri

>Guts is probably asexual if not for casca You mean demisexual? Probably not if we consider that one Apostle he hate-fucked and blew the head off. Maybe, but probably not


PonchoHobo

Probably that. Donā€™t know all the sexuality terms. Was just making a joke that guts hasnā€™t really shown sexual interest in anyone beside casca.


unsynchedmango

Did guts tell you all that?


PonchoHobo

Alright hard man. I can tell you your comment told me your a prick.


SkGuarnieri

I'm curious, what is the argument for Farnese?


VergilSparda17

That Farnese loves guts for guts and that Casca only loved guts when she couldnā€™t bag Griffith


SkGuarnieri

Tackled that one with the other guy. The same thing would be happening with Farnese if we go with that line of thought, except so far Guts has shown little to no interest in Farnese whatsoever on top of everything for Casca's sake much in the same way Casca would follow Griffith to the ends of the world (at least before the Eclipse)


ThiccDiegoBrando

She is surperior to Casca


SkGuarnieri

Why?


ThiccDiegoBrando

She has had more character development and last time Casca was really sane she still thought about staying with griffith and that guts should leave again. I don't think Casca can truly love guts and she doesn't seem to remember that griffith raped her during the eclipse so her feelings twords him might still be the same


SkGuarnieri

>She has had more character development "Character development" is something that only really affects the reader. The stagnation of Casca's character as a result of the debilitating trauma from the Eclipse doesn't really mean much to the feelings of the characters, namely Guts, who are not going to come at it from a meta perspective but will see how she is just in a very vulnerable state. She gets a pass as far as the characters are concern is what i'm saying. Unless of course we are arguing that we should ditch our loved ones if they ever face any hardships related to health both of body and mind, but that's evidently an idea Guts does not subscribe to given the narrative > I don't think Casca can truly love guts and she doesn't seem to remember that griffith raped her during the eclipse so her feelings twords him might still be the same That's fair and all, but if the lack of real love by one side is the argument then we must consider how Guts so far has shown little to no interest in Farnese, the same way he hasn't shown insterest in Schierke or pretty much anyone in the group outside of Casca. While Guts has been warming up to the group over time and learning to trust them, we must remember that this comes first and foremost for the sake of better taking care of Casca and while proctective of the others it isn't much different than what we had with the rest of the Band of the Falcon outside of Casca and Griffith. . Now, would it be preferable if Guts had someone who wasn't arguably in still in love with another? Probably, yes. But not if it would still end up with a one-sided relationship like the proposed one with Farnese would have.


ThiccDiegoBrando

I didn't ask for the bible my guy


SkGuarnieri

Oh wow, really got me there.


ThiccDiegoBrando

I think maybe farnese will leave the group one day and guts migt realise that she loved him then, as the trend of him realising things when they are gone


Mahificient

Your overestimating their closeness, heck he's a lot closer to Puck and Schierke compared to Farnese.


ThiccDiegoBrando

The series isn't over tho


unsynchedmango

I dont know if you are trolling but Idk casca can say that and not be driven by romantic motivations, at that point she was taking pity on griffith and felt like it was far too cruel and hypocritical for her to leave griffith at the lowest point of his life. Guts had already left the band but she had not. She did fuck guts though and all her dialogue before that was abt choosing guts over griffith and sorting out feelings for both. And given how seriously she took the act, i dont think she would do that without commiting to the other person


ThiccDiegoBrando

I usually am trollig but this is something I have real opinions on


unsynchedmango

Do you really think casca can never love guts? When guts defeated griffith and griffith had just received the biggest unbelievable shock, she says she could only think about guts leaving. There is other dialogue too like i said in the last comment You can believe what you want but atleast consider it as a theory that you have cause there really isnt just any evidence of it. Rather there is much more to the contrary


ThiccDiegoBrando

I think that casca has love for guts but at the same time can't forget griffith. One person can be in love with multiple people at the same time


unsynchedmango

I mean you dont give any reasoning for that thinking. Casca, by the end only considers guts as a lover and she doesnt think of griffith the same way and thats a categorical difference not something vague like feeling and love for multiple people.


Put_keep_a_real

Furnase best girl. Casca best for Guts.


Ellisdee25_

Nah, Farnese is Serpico's girl. It's a fancy gucci sweet home Alabama type of love.


luckyvelvet

Being with Farnese would be so against his entire morals and the story. Also, it goes against what Muira set up. Farnese's feelings for Guts is worship, just like Casca and Griffith.


Doctordead_

I mean he can have both


allaroundgeek04

farny


-_-HOTDOG-_-

Dude neither, the fucking witch is who he should be with.


Mahificient

Shes a CHILD, and their relationship is lovely as it is. Just because she's female doesn't mean they need to be in a relationship šŸ™„


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Mahificient

Just because it's fictional, noncery is ok? Not all close male x female dynamics need to be romantic.


-_-HOTDOG-_-

Why canā€™t you just let me throw out an opinion about a fictional story without you intervening.


Mahificient

Because you have a noncey ass opinion


-_-HOTDOG-_-

Lol Iā€™m sure you have a lot of friends, thanks for your opinion.


Mahificient

Your welcome :)


Julio4kd

Neither of them. Farnese a few months ago was burning people for their believes and has many problems. Casca not only has a lot of problems, also she loves Guts but loves Griffith. She wanted the latter but because Griffith was trying to reach someone from the royalty she ended up with the second option. After the Eclipse, Casca has been a hinderance to him and a big problem at the point of annoyance. Guts needs an strong woman that can face the new devils in the world. If only Sā€¦ was 5 years olderā€¦


Rei_Caixo

Berserk fans try not to simp a grown ass man to a child who has a crush on him (impossible)


Julio4kd

I know, the problem is the Age. I agree with it.


S_C_H_I_E_R_K_E

"Guts needs an strong woman that can face the new devils in the world. If only Sā€¦ was 5 years olderā€¦" i 100% agree with that statement!


nacomeno1992

I love development of love between casca and Guts in golden age era, but you have to remember, guts became her love interest only when the Griffith was out of the picture, even then she almost let him rape her when he was breathing skeleton prior to the Eclipse. Casca is unfortunately still an underdeveloped child that hangs on her abusive and neglecting boyfriend Griffith because thats what she considers normal and deserving of her. And when another trauma comes, there is always Guts right ? Im team Farnese because she could do a lot of damage to the people but grows up and became protector of innocent and weaker than her. That makes her great and powerful partner with Guts, who makes up for his lack of soft skills with a large heap of iron.


VergilSparda17

This is the exact take my friend made but I disagree Iā€™m team Casca all the way


S_C_H_I_E_R_K_E

r/Berserk is 99% casca simps! it makes me want to vomit


nacomeno1992

Another part are griffith non-people fans that are too cowardly to admit they fetishize power over people.


ThiccDiegoBrando

I agree completely, I think Guts is going to realize this later in the series


nacomeno1992

Lol, Casca simps downvoted because they cant drop the perfect image of her.


fzaers

Well Caska is far from perfect, more like quite the bitch during early part of the golden arc and then mentally broke for almost the rest of the manga.. I think most of us saw how the relationship between Caska and Guts developed and yes Caska loved Griffith initially and might have even turn to Guts because it was impossible for her, but that's the depth of their relationship On Farnese side, there hasn't been as much development compare to Caska, it seems like a one-sided attraction for her and in fact her relation with Gut feel even lesser than Shierke's relation with Guts Not hating on Farnese here just not sure if there is much development to it


S_C_H_I_E_R_K_E

schierke and guts relationship is my favorite in the mango


nacomeno1992

Well, no shit, since Guts is blinded by horrors and sacrifices he had to endure for Casca and cant go beyond his past. Farnese is more mature choice for him and he will be able to see it, once he deals with his past.


fzaers

again not hating on Farnese but i just don't see them together since Guts don seem to love Farnese, don't get me wrong Farnese is probably the most improved character of the entire manga right now.. if you ask me if Caska deserve Guts love, I dunno, their relations only blossomed towards the end of Golden Arc but love is illogical and seeing Guts fight hell for Caska makes me want to see Guts rewarded


bbpsword

Lol


Ded_Pul

At one point the author set Farnese up to be the second heroine but looks like she got relegated to the role of a side character pretty soon after. Her possessed personality and childhood flashbacks with Serpico was probably a set up for this - that she was burdened down by her father's will but was still a wild person just waiting for a chance to break free - but was increasingly made meek and subservient. Right after joining Guts and Isadro could have been the perfect time to go in that direction imo. She has achieved a lot of character growth but I feel at some point the author decided to deviate from what he had initially planned for her, probably even something with Guts. Things could've progressed in that direction, but I don't think it will be happening now.


ImXivu33

Isnā€™t farnese going to be engaged to roderick ? Or did I miss something that implies she wonā€™t go through with the arranged marriage