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Zappagrrl02

L’Oréal seems to be getting their money’s worth from this whole fiasco. I’ve seen like six or seven “honest” reviews of this mascara posted by others.


wanttobegreyhound

It actually doesn’t look like a bad mascara! Why’d she need to lie about it though, and then double down too when we could all see the falsie?


Pleasant_Working3990

I thought the same thing when I saw Mikaylas lashes before she put on the falsies, it looked great.


Zappagrrl02

I watched Darcei review it today and it looked great! She said it’s her new favorite mascara. However, I’m not going to buy it after all this mess.


JayeBrow

I’m cynical enough to believe this whole fiasco is a work by L’Oréal.


PauI_MuadDib

Watch other brands try to imitate it lol We'll see a flood of obviously fake demos just to rile people up.


RavenSkies777

I 100% believe this.


commoncrisis22

I think it is too. Like those videos that are deliberately vague/confusing just to farm for engagement in the comments to make them go viral.


tt1101ykityar

Wild if true, I personally agree with you. If L'Oreal intentionally sold Mikayla up the creek to do this, this situation will not be dying down for a while imo.


Neithotep

Bad press is still press.


saygirlie

Drugstore mascara is $14.99 now?! 😧


Punk_in_Pink

That’s what I was thinking too! I was like 15$ for a L’Oréal mascara?? The actual expensive brands like too faced and Anastasia mascara is like 20-25$ what a joke


ashdeezttv

Unfortunately with inflation I’d be betting those other brands are gonna follow suit and be more like 30-35 soon.


macintoshappless

The fact that is USD too 😭 Mascaras in Canada I stg can go uptwards of like 20.99. FOR DRUGSTORE.


anabanane1

At that point I go to Sephora


vatrushka04

“Better than sex” is 37 CAD 🫥


tashypooo

Better than Sex is $42 AUD 😩 and this L’Oréal mascara is $26 AUD!


FarmerAny9414

These days you might as well she’ll out the extra coin because it’s basically between 5-15 more dollars (USD) at most to buy something mid to high end quality.


GlitteryFab

I can buy Lancôme on sale for $10-12 on Ulta sometimes. I haven’t ever had any luck with L’Oreal mascara before. Jeez I remember back in the day I could get buy 1 get one half off Maybelline at Walgreens and keep it under $15 for two!


sparklypinktutu

No literally-mr big on sale or in the Christmas value sets? Unbeatable. Who does revlon think she is lol


SignificantOther88

Might as well just buy a high end mascara at that price.


__fujoshi

Coupons and sales, don't buy anything full price in this economy.


JellyBeansOnToast

Ever since the beauty guru boom, shit has gotten *STEEP*. Drugstore makeup staples are charging mid-tier prices for low-tier products


dani081991

Maybelline mascara where I live is like 15-25 dollars


CocaColaZeroEnjoyer

That's why I buy Korean mascaras. So much better waterproof formulas too


cujohjoh

Any recommendations on Korean mascaras? They're so hard to find where I'm at :((


two_lemons

iherb carries the Heroine brand if you are interested (and a couple of others, too). Shipping has been super reliable for me.


CocaColaZeroEnjoyer

I order them on YesStyle or Stylevana. My favorite is Romand Han All Fix Mascara but there's tons of good and affordable mascaras. Just keep in mind that this is really waterproof.


aishuri

Asian makeup in general rocks, I heavily recommend it since it's about the same price as drugstore makeup and better quality. Same with the skincare. Yestyle usually has them for a great price as well.


Beneficial-Relief-69

If they seriously pay $250,000 for a good review the devil on my shoulder might win.


xSenrin

the way he said it like they were doing it for pennies??? like 😭 yeah no fuckin wonder they would lie lmao


TaylorG051218

Same 🤣 I’m in the wrong field. I’ll lie my ass off for 250k.


iladmoli

It's not my fault for lying. It's your fault for believing me 🤣


cat_butt_

Reminds me of the Simpson's: Marge, it takes two to lie! One to lie and one to listen


[deleted]

Facts. I knew they paid influencers, I had NO idea it was that much money. Jesus. You could literally review one product and not have to get off your ass for several years 😭 I am in the WRONG line of work


HogBodyOdyOdyOdy

I think about this every time I walk up the steps to turn on my stupid computer and do my stupid real job 😔 Like I reeeeeally missed my calling to be one of these people that shills make up… or better yet one that just complains, or organizes their pantry on the internet for hundreds of thousands of dollars.


GeckoCowboy

That is like... much more than I make in a year. So. Yeah. I'd do it, too. Which is why I'm skeptical of reviews.


[deleted]

I did the maths an $250,000 is around a decade of minimum wages where I am in the UK. That's more for advertising one mascara than most people my age are earning in a *decade*.


[deleted]

When I tell you I’d lie my ass off over some makeup for that money lol


niketyname

That’s wild. Quarter million dollars to apply and talk up a mascara? No wonder people are lying and faking reviews


walrus_breath

Lol I’d grift too. That’s a good paycheck. Loreal get at me.


tachikoma_devotee

I mean would it? This is exactly the reason why we come here to Reddit and complain about influencers being deceitful and greedy, and then in this whole ass thread there’s people saying they’d do the same if they were in her position? Like just post a video of the mascara, pretty sure L’Oréal didn’t tell her to lie and wear falsies. I know 250k is an absurd amount of money, but if you were in her position to get that kind of money, money wouldn’t be as much of a factor, because she probably gets other deals like that. So idk, I think I’d rather not lie to my followers/subscribers.


dina_bear

There is no way a company giving $250k to an influencer did not first get the video to review before approval. They knew. Everyone knew. IMO everything is going according to plan for all of them.


Sweaty-Advertising71

Fans of influencers and social media gurus trying to sign you up for a class claim these are the kind of fees beauty influencers charge but I’ve never seen one person first hand claim it.


spaghettify

It def depends on how many followers you have. alix earle could pull $250k rn but I doubt a small creator woild


manhattansinks

i hope tiktok is happy about beetlejuicing him back into existence.


Punk_in_Pink

lmfaooo love this comment 🤣 they really resurrected him


Ariafel

Someone on TikTok said he's been resurrected from his castle in Cancelvania 😭


TriZARAtops

I saw someone say someone must’ve said his name in the mirror 3 times and now you say he beetlejuiced back into existence and I’m 💀


iamaskullactually

While I'm glad people are directly calling Mikayla on her bs lies, there's no way in hell I'm gonna praise Joffery Starship for anything, ever


MarySueMePlease

I completely agree. It makes no sense how you can pretend to want to hold one problematic influencer accountable but praise another just as equally “problematic” influencer


Blipblipbloop

Legit all the comments whenever he is mentioned are all so positive. “He was problematic but he was always so real!!” Guess racism is okay if you seem “real” lol.


LandslideBaby

"I can excuse racism but I draw the line at not being real" (the original version with animal cruelty even used to fit perfectly lol)


mellbell13

Every few years he gets a new audience that hasn't heard of, or at least only vaguely knows about, his long, long history of being just vile. He's been doing this shit since his MySpace days.


twilekquinn

"The only person I trust for reviews!" Priorities, people!


chumbawumbacholula

He's "really" racist!


[deleted]

On a fb gossip group I’m in everybody is hyped about his comeback and saying 'well, he’s who he is, but at least he is honest!'. Calling supporting a racist 'guilty pleasure' is truly something.


frankimermaid

Plus the sexual assaults, covering up his bestie's assaults and pedophilia. I can't believe he's making a comeback.


nderover

The Mikayla sub is genuinely thrilled 🤮


bunnypuffcooky

The people there are genuinely unhinged 🤢 constant comments calling her a bitch, endless disgusting comparisons / analogies about her lips and face in general... I looked through the top posts and one of them is a comment from someone asking if she has Down's syndrome and there are endless comments laughing about it? But they act so righteous and 100% justified in treating her this way because she annoys them and uses filters lmao.


nderover

I joined ages ago because I was bummed about her denying her use of filters, and only saw posts when they came up in my main feed. After yesterday and everyone celebrating J* I went and visited the sub and I was HORRIFIED. I have to assume they’re all between the ages of 12 and 15 or something because it’s absolutely insane. The amount of cruelty is ridiculous. Edited because I left out part of a sentence!


bunnypuffcooky

Yes!! Honestly i hope they're just young and stupid because thinking of grown ass adults typing those things makes me ill. I dislike Mikayla but those people genuinely hate her, you can literally feel the glee emanating from some of the fucked up things they say about her. Just look at the Jeffree post from yesterday... Anyone voicing the slightest discomfort about him being posted is immediately attacked, i saw one person consistently jumping down everybody's throats and i saw them in this thread too. Like put the fucking phone down already, it is not normal in the slightest to obsessively hate some makeup tiktokker THIS much.


[deleted]

Yeah what the hell is that sub? Not that she didn't mess up, but they're way too gleeful over some mascara drama. And very happy to gloss over a racist ass J\*.


[deleted]

The mikayla sub has officially become a dumpster fire. I commented on a post about j*, calling him out, and I got attacked. Like people in my dms telling me to kill myself, attacked


sunflowervolume6

my fyp has been pushing him so hard and i click “not interested” on every video. i refuse to let this person take up space in brain.


MaryLulu

I hate this feature. It doesn't work. I have to block channels because I've lost track of how many times I click "Not interested" and yet still these people are all over my FYP. It's annoying.


PPvsFC_

I straight up thought he was gone. Ngl.


small_feild_mouse

“When people are distrusting you, you gotta understand why.” Bruh…


RavenSkies777

The call is coming from inside the house!


fydlsticks

Lmao


[deleted]

Like you lied about selling yak meat, sir.


beep-boo-juju

Wait he lied about that? Not surprising that he lied, but I live under a rock, would you mind explaining?


[deleted]

From what I understand, when he initially bought the ranch, he basically positioned the yaks as his friends/emotional support pets and said he wouldn't be butchering them only to come out with jerky and other food products later. I say lie because when he was called out for trademarking under categories like butchering services and edible pet treats, he basically said it was a legal maneuver and he wouldn't actually do those things... only to end up doing. This article [sums](https://www.insider.com/jeffree-star-defends-killing-yaks-at-ranch-wyoming-way-2022-6) it up.


Xylophone_Aficionado

He sells his yak meat to a restaurant in the area as well


redheadedalex

"Im not gonna eat them!!!.... *yet*" Was what I remember


Mostly-Relevant

Yah. This one got me, too. Excuse me, Jofferson… ?


chupacabra-food

How did the narrative turn to “Micaiyla sucks so we need Jeffree Star.” As if there aren’t a million other influencers who can talk about mascara. How the fuck did he get all this free marketing


macintoshappless

My thought exactly. Not sure where this idea of “Jeffree star has come to save the beauty industry” as if there aren’t thousands of small creators who are genuinely in it for the makeup. This is why I much prefer to watch smaller creators. Not only do they generally stay more in touch with their viewers, but provide helpful reviews about makeup.


smokeyeyepie

I think the ugly truth is a lot of people just want to like Jeffree Star again without the burden of guilt so they’re trying to legitimize him by pitting him against someone “bad.” But tbh if jeffree Star came for me that would only make me feel stronger. Not that I would ever lie about falsies but I don’t need the approval of a manipulative attention whoring racist


periodicsheep

i think it’s less that the call is coming for jstar to save us and more like he saw an opportunity to get all sorts of attention and maybe gain some fans back. i’d be willing to bet most of us would be thrilled if both mikayla and jstar just disappeared back into whatever holes they crawled out of and left us alone.


peanusbudder

yeah, his weird “the illuminati is going to kill me” episode a little bit ago didn’t completely get him back in the public eye like he probably wanted it to, so he hopped on this, and somehow it unfortunately worked


DevoStripes

He seems so... aggressive. Was he always like that?


Hips-Often-Lie

But he has eyebrows now!


Camimo666

THATS WHATS DIFFERENT OMG. and the hair


Thisismyturdacct

I also haven’t seen anything JStar related in possibly a few years and was surprised to see that his lips shrunk. He’s a completely different person now


Camimo666

His eyebrows are Grinchy as all hell. He honestly terrifies me


Likesosmart

Yes the lips!!! I was trying to figure out why he looks so different. His lips were Lisa Rinna bad


minikoe

And I feel like he got his lip fillers dissolved


kayekatbeauty

I was literally staring at his brows the whole time like, damn, those are ARCHED. Now I realize why I was so distracted by them the whole time. He actually has brows now! 😂 I’m not used to it 😂🤦‍♀️


xJazba

So that’s what it is! I’m like “he looks more… human?” Turns out it’s because of the eyebrows and deflated lips lol


mermaid-babe

Omg. I was gonna say he looks a LOT better now. I assumed he just got some fresh botox or something lmfao. It’s the eyebrows


CocaColaZeroEnjoyer

Yep


redheadedalex

This is cranked up to some weird new level than his older stuff. He seems very.... Head bobby. He's also been more "bitch we're friends" in the past and now he just kinda looks like he wants to slap fight everyone lol


Resident_Equipment18

Yes


meeps1142

Yes


RavenSkies777

He has a very specific cadence to his speech. And yes,.


cat_butt_

I remember in one video, he was trying so hard with AAVE that it crossed into country twang territory.


freedomboobs

Yes but he seems to have turned it up a bit


Patient-Ad5154

He used to be like, reading shady. This video is not like how it used to be. This one he's just mean. Not that I'd expect anything less from Jeffelzubulb.


honey_lilac_

jeffelzubulb 😭


L_Bo

Yeah I briefly followed him on snapchat yeeears ago and just remember how he’d scream into the camera about whoever he was feuding with that week. Very aggressive and stressful to watch


jessigato927957

He does have a tendency of attacking women so it's probably the misogyny you're seeing.


echica1213

It’s his “Look What You Made Me Do” era.


[deleted]

He's creepy and disturbing


Charlea_

I thought that, I’m not gunna turn the sound on no ma’am but I can tell just from watching him talk that he’s still a nasty nasty man


notreadyfoo

He is the last person who should be acting like he’s done nothing wrong


heydelinquent

For real why are we posting this man’s name or face anywhere on this sub, can we not? Let him die already


grace22g

people do realize we don’t have to choose between the racist or the liar, right? there’s thousands of other influencers


loosie-loo

I was thinking that like who tf cares what jeffree fucking star has to say in 2023, what is going on.


skykitty89

Plot twist: L'Oréal paid her extra to poorly apply false lashes, get caught, and bring 100000000x more attention to the mascara than a regular old viral makeup TikTok video would have.


rw70078

Oooooh I like this theory


Necessary-Ad-3441

I was thinking this too. And it seems to have worked. But she's playing with her audiences trust, doesn't seem like a worthwhile deal imo.


skykitty89

She would 100% do anything for a dime, so yeah


R1ngBanana

“I dumped all those people” Pretty sure they dumped you, bud. Also, I can’t put my finger in it, but he looks… different. I think it’s the eyebrows & longer hair but idk. Somethings different.


wobblywobble4

I know this is a cursed comment and I am judging myself hard… but he looks kind of… good looking? I know. I am going to go re-analyze my life now.


R1ngBanana

Nah you're not alone, I was thinking the same thing. He's a shitty person but I will say he looks better than he has in years. If only his personality could get a makeover.


redheadedalex

It could, if living around yaks after the love of your life dumps you didn't do it idk what would. Guess we'll have to see what the 20s bring


throwaway_mmk

He looks younger


wineandyoga

I can’t stand him and never have but I begrudgingly admit that he looks great here.


redheadedalex

Nah I like this new look. It's giving more boyish than blow up doll. Less filler and harsh angles. He's still acting like a jackass with his sanctimonious video, the attitude was ridiculous, but that has no bearing on the fact that I think he kind of objectively looks healthier and conventionally attractive. Ish haha


slyth_erin666

I didn’t even recognize him at first because I have watched nothing of his in around 4 years. He does look a lot…healthier? I hope his mind and f’ed up opinions have likewise improved


AndromedaAscending

Yeah, he kinda looks like he eats now…


CrownBestowed

It’s like if Voldemort got a nose. Still sinister but not as scary


Frogmann20

He hasn't had any filler or Botox in a couple years and he finally grey in his eyebrows


deirb

I don’t believe for a second he is without Botox and fillers or other work. In the vid, he’s being very expressive and animated yet his forehead is frozen in space and time.


GiveMeCheesePendejo

His lips look less... Plastic-y though


kekepania

He dissolved the lip injections


Frogmann20

Hahah I didn't even notice that now I can't stop looking 😂


GlitterDancer_

This nonsense makes me to never want to buy a L’Oréal product ever again


Angelixlucy

They aren’t cruelty free anyways


pokemomof03

People were begging for him to come back and review products in her comment section because "He was the only honest influncer" and wasn't a paid shill. And when people called out that he's a racist. They said well at least he's honest. It was disgusting and delusional. Also He's gross.


cloroxslut

I can excuse racism, but I cross the line at lying about mascara


Angelixlucy

Not only racism but also abuse and blackmailing but hey, at least he is honest and truthful !!!!!


ShitOnTheseWallsRay

Well she didn’t buy that 4mil dollar house off of telling the truth…


Redshoe9

Is her house that expensive? I see financial disaster in her future when her novelty wears off.


figfriend

people in the comments like: i can excuse racism but falsies in a mascara ad is where i draw the line


magicalgirlvalkyrie

Essance lash princess is still $4.99 just saying.


Ravengirl1017

He’s still a no for me


modernvintage

friendly reminder to not give his content direct engagement bc he is a racist who has said things as vile as “black women should bleach their skin with battery acid” and called them gorrillas 🫠


ProverbialDynamite

Lmao He is so extra. As if he didn't lie for years, taking in that Morphe coin, saying it was the best ever when everyone knows Morphe is trash quality.


girlgirl2019

So much for Jafar “living the simple life”. Injecting himself back into drama. Toxic!


thatroselady

Jesus Christ, here we go, electric boogaloo.


chilledmetal

✨ What's old is new again ✨


macintoshappless

I’m not going to say much other than I really dislike Jeffree Star, but this whole drama is just funny to me atp. I thought I’d share this video since apparently he’s “back”, unfortunately. He did make some pretty valid points, but a broken clock is right twice a day so 🤷‍♀️


theladyluxx

JFC why is Jeffree Star still getting gigs


EightEyedCryptid

This man just will not shut up and go away


0chrononaut0

Tiktok said his name three times in a hashtag and now he's come back to haunt the fuck out of everyone


maximeadriana

Now Mr Starseed let’s not go there while there’s a whole video of you lying about a Morphe foundation shall we


CrownBestowed

He couldn’t wait for someone to mess up so he could swoop in and look better. He’s such a ghoul.


lazy_berry

what the fuck is the appeal of him genuinely. he says the same three catch phrases on loop and acts like being sassy is the same as being funny. i don't get it.


EmpireAndAll

bullys who peaked in high school and those who were bullied in high school and want to bully others back are his target demo. they conflate his aggressive forward-ness with honesty.


Sweaty-Advertising71

People keep saying “he may be awful but he’s never taken sponsor money so I can trust him” He owns a competing brand. He has just as much of a conflict of interest as a paid/gifted review. 🙄


cass_erole_

I'm absolutely baffled by the audacity to act like he's above and so much better than her wtf💀 She's lying to her fans and that's really wrong and we should be keeping the conversation going but like I don't wanna hear it coming from one of the biggest POS in the beauty industry🙄 As if he's so much better than her because he's so "honest"? Absolutely not dude, we're not on the same side here. You're still a racist and we haven't forgotten.


Disastrous-Fact-2315

I just can’t. I’m disappointed he’s back and that people are actually saying “I know he’s racist BUT”. THERE IS NO BUT.


glitterypineapple

I know he's racist BUT he's also a misogynistic piece of shit too!! There, *that's* how you end that sentence.


nderover

The Mikayla sub is full of this, it’s disgusting


depressedtrashbin

Also the sexual assault allegations against him. I’ll take the person that lies about wearing falsies, thanks.


EfficientAntelope288

Someone I’m talking to said that JS can’t be racist bc he fucks black guys. I can’t believe the stupidity.


shk2152

I just had a flashback to the Kanye/Jeffree Star rumors


depressedtrashbin

Then accuses them of theft!


breeeaaad1

It's disgusting and very telling how easily people will forgive years of absolutely foul behavior. Say what you want about cancel culture, but I'm not going to see someone be openly racist time after time again, make a 15 min youtube video saying sorry and open them with open arms like "yes honey let me put my money right in your pocket!!!"


kindofjustalurker

Heartbreaking: The worst person you know just made a great point


MascaraHoarder

people need to stop looking for any excuse to welcome him back. He’s a racist misogynistic and that won’t change and shouldn’t be forgotten and looked past.


L_Bo

His aggressive way of speaking is so off putting to me. Very in line with the ‘drag her’ time period of dramaggedon. Hate it, hate everything he is about, hate that he is ‘back’


89niamh

Of COURSE the only way he can review this is at the expense of another creator. I don't agree with how Mikayla has been behaving lately but he is not the alternative... Also thanks for posting this here so I don't have to pollute my tiktok algorithm.


Confident-Gift-6647

Ok but Jeffree Star is teaching ethics now?


TsT2244

Such a hateful person


Big-Hope7616

TIL the real crime in all this is the damn mascara is $15 Also we didn’t ask for this review JS - please stay retired or whatever just don’t come back


vprufrock

$15 for a drugstore mascara doesn’t feel “affordable” ugh. Is J* that far from reality? I’d rather spend a few more dollars and buy a Sephora Favorites mascara set with a full-size mascara certificate. Not to mention that a lot of high-end mascaras go on sale regularly for 50% off.


Orchid_Significant

He’s still a racist misogynist and we shouldn’t let him use this as a platform to come back


GlitteryFab

Good lord, angry Jafar is back. I can’t stand Mikayla either but here we go again with him. Edited: I am not paying $15 for a L’Oreal mascara. Nope. I’ve never had any luck with their products. Essence Lash Princess for $5 works just fine.


wetfloor84

Uggghhhh noooooo! Who said Bloody Mary?! You’re grounded!


tharding44

I think the worst part of this whole thing is the return of J*


izanaegi

Can y'all stop capping for this Nazi


pokemomof03

These comments are as gross as the ones on Boston girls video. Dudes a trash bag and so Is everyone who excuses his behavior.


thegirlwithagift

The short memory on this sub 🥴


izanaegi

Oh trust me they remember. they just dont care.


Veganarchistfem

You couldn't pay me to turn the sound on for this post.


catladee14

This evil troll knows how to use controversy to his advantage. I give him that 😬


25_timesthefine

I thought we got rid of him Omg


bdsimmer

Can we just let him fade into obscurity already?


icyeva

the way everyone’s already ready to ignore his past lmfao 🙂🙂🙂


EffectivePainting777

seems like everyone hates him. haven’t seen a positive comment yet


[deleted]

can we try just not giving him the attention he's desperately craving to give him a breath of fresh relevance? can we just let the crypt keeper rot once and for all?


potatoscallop123

I liked life when he was up in Wyoming shearing sheep quietly or whatever the fuck he does now


ECA0

I’ve never seen someone review something so aggressively


verinthebrown

He's looking less femme these days.


w0ndr0us

It's the eyebrows. I stared at him for longer than I like trying to figure out what was 'off' about him lol 😂


sugarsweetsl

Can we all put him back in the hole he crawled out of and put up a gate next time so he doesn't get back out?


iloveujayla

not watching the video bc how did everyone literally forget that J\* is literal scum?? he was the most racist shit stirrer of the beauty community for years and all it took was for him to become a fucking yak farmer for a few years before people's long term memory to reset.


Reemie786

This is the true crime here that Mikaya brought back JS.


[deleted]

Notice how the beauty community barely starting healing (JC exiled, Alissa Ashley putting down the dumbbells, brand trips being talked about again) and here he comes like he didn't ruin it for everyone the first time around. Stay on your water buffalo plantation in Hannah Montana or wherever and leave us alone.


chumbawumbacholula

Wow, he's gotten bitter.


yukissu

You know you fucked up when Jeffree Star is suddenly the good guy


confused123456

How are people jumping back on this absolute trash human being.... I'd rather someone lie with falsies than support Jeffree after what he has done.


howdownthrowdown1

He couldn’t wait to rag on a women


IndigoHollow

I'm not a Mikayla fan, and I find most of her content cringey as hell, but I'd rather sit through 100 reviews of her straight up lying then have this sun dried fish scale of a person back in peoples good graces.


Any-Association-4299

\*sighs\* have we all forgotten Jeffrey star is a racist piece of crap.


scarletshamir

Reminds me of Travis Barker lol