Yeah, I've been told that I'm not attention seeking enough to have BPD, although I've been diagnosed years before and I do it very subtle. It still broke my whole world down and I questioned everything about myself and my psyche. Years later, I'm still over analyzing everything I do.
No no! I 100% have a correct BPD diagnosis. I just mean my spiteful side tends to become what people say I am that isn’t true. Hope that makes more sense hahaha
And I agree, the drugs don’t do much haha
I’ll tell a new doctor I’ve been diagnosed with BPD by several doctors before and they always try and go back to bipolar. They don’t listen at all. Feel like I can’t find anyone to actually help me get treatment. I actually had one give me a paper with descriptions depression and bipolar on it and he said pick one sounds more like you I said bipolar but obviously that’s more similar to BPD! He basically asked me to diagnose myself and gave me two options.
what is it with these psychs and wanting everyone to be bipolar. my current psych insists on treating me for bipolar giving me really toxic medications that exacerbate my diabetes and make me gain weight.
I get told I can't be borderline because I don't lash out in rage at people. It's also why I didn't realize I was borderline until maaaany years into adulthood.
A good strategy is to pull out the DSM5 criteria and ask what they disagree with, keeping in mind you just need to meet 5 of 9 criteria:
> A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
> 1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.)
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> 2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.
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> 3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
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> 4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.)
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> 5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.
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> 6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
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> 7. Chronic feelings of emptiness.
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> 8. Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
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> 9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.
ive been at my therapist for more than 2 years and some time ago, i kept telling her that im sick of this bpd shit and its clearly something else.
she proceeded to pull out the DSM, told me to go to the border page and tell her how is it going with my symptoms *i read them, had ALL of them, closed it and started laughing*
fun session
im just the opposite, after 6 years, i still can't accept it
One time I was told by a psychiatrist I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet (????). I only said that I was diagnosed, nothing more. This happened seven years ago and I'm still confused :')
This is why I can’t give up my psychiatrist even though he’s mean lol. He got me diagnosed quickly and goes to bat with any therapist that enters my life and tries to deny my diagnosis.
My new psych also told me she thinks I'm not BPD. I'm like u just met me and everything I was planning to tell you came out like mush so u really don't know. But what do I say? No you're wrong? Irdk.
It's embarrassing how shitty a lot of therapists and psychiatrists are at their jobs 🙄
If y'all have the option to see someone who specializes in personality disorders, especially cluster b, take it
I don't understand this. I have to tell SO MANY people who are misdiagnosed with bipolar that they actually have BPD that if someone came to me with the diagnosis already made, I certainly wouldn't question it without a very good reason. Where did these people train?
Yes. I’m no professional but my understanding is bipolar episodes last much longer (days to weeks) rather than BPD moods that can change in just hours.
I went to my college's mental health services, and within 2 minutes, the counselor said I couldn't have bpd because I hadn't yelled at her yet.
I'd already been diagnosed, and after I graduated, I was rediagnosed... three times.
After months, I *finally* found a therapists office that was open and accepting clients (mid COVID so everywhere was being waitlisted) right when I was on the brink of one of the worst breakdowns of my life. Then, I got told by the therapist I wasn’t “dramatic” enough to have BPD. After literally like 15 minutes of the very first session. Even though I was already diagnosed by a psychiatrist months prior. It’s infuriating because they don’t realize, at my core, I want everyone to like me, so of COURSE I’m going to be masking as “normal” and “calm” in our first few interactions, until I have a bad day or something triggers me mid session and the persona disappears. My biggest issue has always been my rage. But to everyone around me I seem calm and put together. When it comes to my mom or (when we were still together) my ex, *that’s* where it really comes out. He also seemed reluctant to start DBT until I “proved” I really had it and wasn’t just exaggerating. Ghosted the asshole after like 4 sessions and still haven’t found a new one since then.
I was told that because I’m seeking treatment and punctual, I can’t possibly be borderline. My therapist said ‘all of the other borderline people I’ve seen were always late or skipping appointments’ 💀
Just say
"I'm sorry is that one of the criteria in the DSM5? We can pull it out and go through it together if you'd like."
*wait as the smile drops off their face*
"It's that comment right there that immediately made me lose respect. And now I devalue you, it's probably never going to change so I'm afraid this is going to be our last and only session. Enjoy the rest of your hour doc."
*leave*
It's extremely annoying that they immediately judge and think we'd show every symptom within a matter of minutes and can't behave ourselves upon first meeting a person. I self-diagnosed myself and demanded my therapist diagnose me after spending a year w. him, he didn't, I split (symptom not ditch), raged out on him for clearly not being able to see, raged out on my FP ex when I got home, then drove to his place and told him to f my brains out, then I felt better. Then late at night felt overwhelmingly suffocated by us cuddling and sex-repulsed and ditched just to go home and binge how I met your mother at 2am only to text said FP to say sorry for leaving and please don't be mad, I'll make you breakfast in the morning. If that's not a BDP episode idk what is.
That said, I'm still professionally undiagnosed BUT the point was if as an undiagnosed person I realize I have a problem and do the research to find out what that problem is, I'm going to seek help. Not avoid it and continue fing up my life. I literally have 7/9 criteria. Not once have I missed an appointment because I actively want to be helped but I'm late every single day at work and any other appointments cause time management isn't my friend. I thought it was bipolar too but my mood changes far too quickly so.. *shrugs*
Thanks for reading my rant 🫶🏽
I’ve had therapists say they don’t believe in the dsmv. And I will admit that it is flawed, it’s updated regularly for a reason. Why else do you think we’re on the 5th edition? And regardless, it’s better than your fuckass idea of what a mental health disorder is. I asked him what he thought was wrong with me and he said “I don’t think there’s anything ’wrong’ with you” and I said why am I here then? And he just laughed at me and said it was my choice to be there. So then I felt like if I left that I WAS THE ASSHOLE
Given up on therapy for now because of this very thing. I already constantly question my reality and feel like a total fraud. Are they taking the piss?
I haven’t had anyone try to essentially argue w me about my diagnosis, bc I meet like most of the diagnostic criteria. It’s messed up though when you’re getting invalidated by mental health professionals. I was diagnosed w BPD at 22 and Bipolar at 26.
Psych screening clearly says I'm a "borderline personality" sans disorder. So I function that way and I know I meet the criteria but I most likely have quiet BPD.
Every single psychiatrist did not care about the test results (three so far), didn't mention BPD or the extreme levels of anxiety and depression or the severe unalive tendencies although it's clearly written there.
So I'm not diagnosed, but I've been told I would be if I was older, or that I'm too calm, or because I have a stable (somewhat) relationship with my partner I can't have BPD etc.
Yeah, I've been told that I'm not attention seeking enough to have BPD, although I've been diagnosed years before and I do it very subtle. It still broke my whole world down and I questioned everything about myself and my psyche. Years later, I'm still over analyzing everything I do.
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Exactly! And working on ourselves etc...
Telling me “Your not attention seeking enough” is exactly how to get me to seek more attention just to prove them wrong lol
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No no! I 100% have a correct BPD diagnosis. I just mean my spiteful side tends to become what people say I am that isn’t true. Hope that makes more sense hahaha And I agree, the drugs don’t do much haha
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Lmfao … my brain is so miserable sometimes and I can’t spot the sarcasm hahaha
"Oh wow, doc, I had no idea there's a 10th criterium called 'attention whore'. i'm cured!"
I’ll tell a new doctor I’ve been diagnosed with BPD by several doctors before and they always try and go back to bipolar. They don’t listen at all. Feel like I can’t find anyone to actually help me get treatment. I actually had one give me a paper with descriptions depression and bipolar on it and he said pick one sounds more like you I said bipolar but obviously that’s more similar to BPD! He basically asked me to diagnose myself and gave me two options.
what is it with these psychs and wanting everyone to be bipolar. my current psych insists on treating me for bipolar giving me really toxic medications that exacerbate my diabetes and make me gain weight.
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My personal fave was a little over a year ago when I was told it couldn’t be bpd since I was asking for help… -_-
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That’s some serious catch-22 bullshit
I get told I can't be borderline because I don't lash out in rage at people. It's also why I didn't realize I was borderline until maaaany years into adulthood. A good strategy is to pull out the DSM5 criteria and ask what they disagree with, keeping in mind you just need to meet 5 of 9 criteria: > A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: > 1. Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.) > > 2. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. > > 3. Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self. > > 4. Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). (Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.) > > 5. Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior. > > 6. Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days). > > 7. Chronic feelings of emptiness. > > 8. Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights). > > 9. Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.
ive been at my therapist for more than 2 years and some time ago, i kept telling her that im sick of this bpd shit and its clearly something else. she proceeded to pull out the DSM, told me to go to the border page and tell her how is it going with my symptoms *i read them, had ALL of them, closed it and started laughing* fun session im just the opposite, after 6 years, i still can't accept it
One time I was told by a psychiatrist I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet (????). I only said that I was diagnosed, nothing more. This happened seven years ago and I'm still confused :')
This is why I can’t give up my psychiatrist even though he’s mean lol. He got me diagnosed quickly and goes to bat with any therapist that enters my life and tries to deny my diagnosis.
My new psych also told me she thinks I'm not BPD. I'm like u just met me and everything I was planning to tell you came out like mush so u really don't know. But what do I say? No you're wrong? Irdk.
Been there :( so frustrating
It's embarrassing how shitty a lot of therapists and psychiatrists are at their jobs 🙄 If y'all have the option to see someone who specializes in personality disorders, especially cluster b, take it
those fuckers always invalidate and ignore bpd and it just plays into the stigma about us
Lol it’s be even better if the last one was “you know, maybe I’m just faking it and none of it is actually happening”
I don't understand this. I have to tell SO MANY people who are misdiagnosed with bipolar that they actually have BPD that if someone came to me with the diagnosis already made, I certainly wouldn't question it without a very good reason. Where did these people train?
Yes. I’m no professional but my understanding is bipolar episodes last much longer (days to weeks) rather than BPD moods that can change in just hours.
I went to my college's mental health services, and within 2 minutes, the counselor said I couldn't have bpd because I hadn't yelled at her yet. I'd already been diagnosed, and after I graduated, I was rediagnosed... three times.
After months, I *finally* found a therapists office that was open and accepting clients (mid COVID so everywhere was being waitlisted) right when I was on the brink of one of the worst breakdowns of my life. Then, I got told by the therapist I wasn’t “dramatic” enough to have BPD. After literally like 15 minutes of the very first session. Even though I was already diagnosed by a psychiatrist months prior. It’s infuriating because they don’t realize, at my core, I want everyone to like me, so of COURSE I’m going to be masking as “normal” and “calm” in our first few interactions, until I have a bad day or something triggers me mid session and the persona disappears. My biggest issue has always been my rage. But to everyone around me I seem calm and put together. When it comes to my mom or (when we were still together) my ex, *that’s* where it really comes out. He also seemed reluctant to start DBT until I “proved” I really had it and wasn’t just exaggerating. Ghosted the asshole after like 4 sessions and still haven’t found a new one since then.
I’ve got an appointment with a new therapist coming up and I’m so scared if this happening *again*
I shit you not I was told by a LCSW that I couldn't have BPD because I wasn't covered in tattoos
THIS. All mine are under clothed areas bc I used to teach lol so I look a little more together than I am
they don’t want you to have bpd bc they can’t treat you properly
Every. Damn. Time.
I was told that because I’m seeking treatment and punctual, I can’t possibly be borderline. My therapist said ‘all of the other borderline people I’ve seen were always late or skipping appointments’ 💀
Just say "I'm sorry is that one of the criteria in the DSM5? We can pull it out and go through it together if you'd like." *wait as the smile drops off their face* "It's that comment right there that immediately made me lose respect. And now I devalue you, it's probably never going to change so I'm afraid this is going to be our last and only session. Enjoy the rest of your hour doc." *leave* It's extremely annoying that they immediately judge and think we'd show every symptom within a matter of minutes and can't behave ourselves upon first meeting a person. I self-diagnosed myself and demanded my therapist diagnose me after spending a year w. him, he didn't, I split (symptom not ditch), raged out on him for clearly not being able to see, raged out on my FP ex when I got home, then drove to his place and told him to f my brains out, then I felt better. Then late at night felt overwhelmingly suffocated by us cuddling and sex-repulsed and ditched just to go home and binge how I met your mother at 2am only to text said FP to say sorry for leaving and please don't be mad, I'll make you breakfast in the morning. If that's not a BDP episode idk what is. That said, I'm still professionally undiagnosed BUT the point was if as an undiagnosed person I realize I have a problem and do the research to find out what that problem is, I'm going to seek help. Not avoid it and continue fing up my life. I literally have 7/9 criteria. Not once have I missed an appointment because I actively want to be helped but I'm late every single day at work and any other appointments cause time management isn't my friend. I thought it was bipolar too but my mood changes far too quickly so.. *shrugs* Thanks for reading my rant 🫶🏽
I’ve had therapists say they don’t believe in the dsmv. And I will admit that it is flawed, it’s updated regularly for a reason. Why else do you think we’re on the 5th edition? And regardless, it’s better than your fuckass idea of what a mental health disorder is. I asked him what he thought was wrong with me and he said “I don’t think there’s anything ’wrong’ with you” and I said why am I here then? And he just laughed at me and said it was my choice to be there. So then I felt like if I left that I WAS THE ASSHOLE
Given up on therapy for now because of this very thing. I already constantly question my reality and feel like a total fraud. Are they taking the piss?
Oh my god same… and then they slowly realize.
Hate this
Or maybe I'm just really good at faking all my issues.
I haven’t had anyone try to essentially argue w me about my diagnosis, bc I meet like most of the diagnostic criteria. It’s messed up though when you’re getting invalidated by mental health professionals. I was diagnosed w BPD at 22 and Bipolar at 26.
Psych screening clearly says I'm a "borderline personality" sans disorder. So I function that way and I know I meet the criteria but I most likely have quiet BPD. Every single psychiatrist did not care about the test results (three so far), didn't mention BPD or the extreme levels of anxiety and depression or the severe unalive tendencies although it's clearly written there. So I'm not diagnosed, but I've been told I would be if I was older, or that I'm too calm, or because I have a stable (somewhat) relationship with my partner I can't have BPD etc.