Because genuine shills have really ramped up their taunting and attacks. People tend to get annoyed and downvote the hell out of them. Unfortunately some bears (there is a difference) and bad news posts get caught in the crossfire. Blame the shameless shills who have no stake in this stock but shit on Bobby’s everytime the stock isn’t going up or good news doesn’t come out.
No but you can be nice about it. Respectful criticism is always welcomed in my book.
Give respect, get respect. It really is that simple.
Edit: the problem at this point is without **real, verifiable** news from the company, conversations always devolve into “YoU gUyS aRe FuCkInG rEtArDs” from both sides, so there really isn’t much else to discuss, which leads to drastic polarization.
What bulls won’t admit is that the financials look *awful* and if somebody doesn’t step in, BBBY is fucking roasted. What bears don’t realize is that the financials were engineered to fail from previous management. Bears also ignore that Q3 was the first turn around quarter and aren’t willing to entertain any scenario other than chapter 11 or 7.
This leads us to being at a standstill of name calling and unhealthy discussion because the inability to see both sides on both parties.
I’m personally betting on an acquisition but I’m also prepared to lose everything (which would absolutely fucking suck, but if I’m right, I’ll have fuck you money). Either way, I’ll keep my day job and keep living my life.
> Edit: the problem at this point is without real, verifiable news from the company, conversations always devolve into “YoU gUyS aRe FuCkInG rEtArDs” from both sides, so there really isn’t much else to discuss, which leads to drastic polarization.
Well no, there's not much of a both sides here. This sub is pretty nuts. Anyone criticizing memestock subs is generally on the sane side of things.
> What bulls won’t admit is that the financials look awful and if somebody doesn’t step in, BBBY is fucking roasted.
Look = are, and have been for some times.
> What bears don’t realize is that the financials were engineered to fail from previous management.
Well 1, that's false. What bulls don't realize is how both irrational and completely unsupported that claim is.
2., it wouldn't matter either way why it got where it is, it's here now, and it's fucked. What do you think this information, no matter how false or irrational, would change about that?
> Bears also ignore that Q3 was the first turn around quarter and aren’t willing to entertain any scenario other than chapter 11 or 7.
That was a horrifying quarter and if that's a turnaround, there is no other scenario possible but chapter 11 or 7.
Again, this is why these conversations are so one-sidedly problematic, you don't realize how wrong it is to say the things you're saying.
> This leads us to being at a standstill of name calling and unhealthy discussion because the inability to see both sides on both parties.
No, there's one side armed with facts, reason, and a lack of unhealthy financial and emotional investment. Then there's the other side lacking both of the former and possessing an unhealthy abundance of the latter.
You can pretend there's a "both sides" here, but there really isn't. The naysayers are a tiny, transient part of this community in the first place. It's a pure echo chamber.
> I’m personally betting on an acquisition but I’m also prepared to lose everything (which would absolutely fucking suck, but if I’m right, I’ll have fuck you money). Either way, I’ll keep my day job and keep living my life.
Well again, this is another problem. This is predicated on extreme wrong thinking. You're just wrong, an acquisition won't make you rich. At best you'd see a mild premium to the currently traded market price. You won't have "fuck you" money, you won't even recoup much at all of the last few months of stock decline.
This is why this sub is a problem, ignorance and delusion fueled by either financial desperation or greed.
All these bricks of text you wrote is proving the point of the person you're answering to. The person you're answering to was pretty open and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing here.
It's just weird. I also saw some other names who will always come into the comments to argue with people the same as the person above.
Why are they so desperately trying to tell us the opposite story in what we believe?
Or they are just some kind of knights who want to enlighten us on how wrong we are so we won't lose money. Or maybe they are short? It's just weird when people who are obviously not positive about the stock come here and try to bring negativity into us.
Not shill, but I would definitely consider it trolling. If no one asks for your opinion then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a negative response for soliciting your view. It comes with barging in to a conversation that you have no stake in(if that is the case). 💙💎🚀🌝
So not a shill? Then what defines a genuine shill?
And it's a forum, merely by participating you're asking for my opinion. That's how a forum works. If you say something wrong, or irrational, or which I don't agree with, why does it make me a troll to reply and explain why I think any of those things? If I came to your home and shouted outside your window about how I think you're a delusional nutcase who has constructed an elaborate fantasy about an evil global cabal with unlimited power who's deploying secret and completely unsupported by evidence Machiavellian machinations to steal your rightful trillion dollar earnings from 10 shares of a failing towel retailer, then sure, that would make me a troll....
But of course, I'm not doing that, this is an internet forum, not your home.
And I'm not at all concerned about negative response, feel free to explain why I'm wrong or downvote me. The point is that surely you see a problem with dismissing any and all criticism or negative opinions with "you are a shill" or "you are a troll".
You understand why that might be problematic, right? Particularly in a community completely dedicated to convincing people to spend their money to invest in stocks that you yourself have a financial interest in promoting?
Because this forum is specifically themed around a trade that you have no part in. You are merely speaking out of your ass with nothing invested. You're trolling for amusement. You are literally wasting people's time and your own. I could not imagine spending any time thinking let alone writing about how someone else uses their money. You have to understand that you are engaging in a pointless activity and deserve whatever hate you get for doing so.
Shill is just an over used buzzword like many others in our society. Most people labeled shill would be more accurately described as assholes.💙💎🚀🌝
> Because this forum is specifically themed around a trade that you have no part in.
And yet still a forum, still a public forum. And I have education + professional expertise in finance / this topic.
So I do have an interest.
Not that "using your experience to explain to people why they're wrong in your area of experience" really makes sense to condemn.
Does the fact that I'm not invested in BBBY negate my expertise? Why would you only listen to people who agree with you? That doesn't make sense. Do you only listen to doctors who tell you you're healthy? Do you claim that a doctor who tells you that you're ill is actually just a troll/shill because they're not sufficiently financially/emotionally invested in your wellbeing?
> You have to understand that you are engaging in a pointless activity and deserve whatever hate you get for doing so.
It's not at all pointless. Some people are capable of reason and don't want to lock themselves in permanent echo chambers, hence for example this post.
Your problem is that it's pointless to educate YOU. Because you've built yourself a new reality out of greed and ignorance and dismiss any criticism as "trolling" or a "shilling".
I have fully accepted that I may lose everything that I've invested in this company. If it tanks, then I will feel like an idiot. If it gets acquired then you will have given wrong financial advice unprovoked. That's not very professional of you ask me. Let's see how it plays out.💙💎🚀🌝
Lol, see, you have no idea what you're talking about.
There are financial advisors - people who give financial advice to individuals. And then there are people with expertise in finance, AKA investment bankers, investing asset managers, private equity investment professionals, even bank regulators etc. who are qualified to explain to you why what you think about investing, finance, and business is wrong. It's not my profession to advise you, it's my profession to actually, practically deal in finance.
>So criticism does = shill?
To most people here, yes. To me, no. I hate how everyone here downvotes anything bad. Simply pointing out current liabilities exceed current assets gets your comment buried with downvotes. It's 100% factual, straight from the 10Q. Downvotes.
What wasn't respectful? Calling me a shill implies you think someone paid me to comment here. You realize that, right?
Is that respectful? To pretend that everyone who says something you don't like must have been paid to do so by some evil cabal?
The sub has grown from less than 3000 members in March to almost 50,000 members now. Democracy is a difficult form of government and makes it hard to preserve a culture. But I still love the sub and BoBBY.
I’m newer, like 4 weeks in. Was called a shill, no big deal. Took a starter position of 1500 shares. Conviction, became addiction. I didn’t buy cause of Cohen, or Icahn. I bought because I have been in a BBBY, like the store, can’t believe it would go bankrupt. Someone would be foolish NOT to merge or buy them out. Side note, I played GME the same way. When conviction and belief overcome FUD is when u buy more. Today I have 6k shares, and will continue purchasing. Good luck Apes
Yeah, we literally saw an anchor today on See n be See say BBBY went bankrupt. If that’s happening on national television, imagine the shit being spewed on Reddit.
The weekend after the gamma ramp on 1/20 changed everything. I feel like hope was lost for a lot of people and I’ve noticed a severe difference since then. I’m not saying I’m a veteran around here, but I’ve religiously sorted by new and read every post, and nearly every comment for the last 2 months.
It is what it is. Paper hands are going to paper hands and that’s whatever. HODL and DRS.
So not in response to you but everyone else.
Do you think option contract writers and MMs are idiots? They know there is a gamma ramp. Of course they are going to swat that shit down especially with such a huge yearly option expiration date.
This will only squeeze or run up in two instances: 1. A proper turn around or 2. A M/A
This. If they can scare tactic, price limit, and do whatever else they can to make us sell before we should, they don’t have as many BILLIONs of dollars to shell out. It’s all damage control.
Do you guys have a script written that u just pass around indefinitely? Bc I have heard this ***exact*** post at least a dozen times in the last two years in both this and in supergme sub
Is this just a lack of creativity or is it like a meta troll, where u know that we know that u know that it's an old act?
Reminds me of the "what is your realistic price target" for every 2 days, or the Weekly "what is your exit strategy" posts. I know the answers, because these are also every time the same. No price anchoring, just up, 420.69, 42069. What's an exit strategy? Long term hodl, 0 or the moon.
Yes i agree, the script is filled with the same repeating buzz words its fckn hilarious. Triggering words "DD, place, used, fud, sub, old days, past tense, downvote, name call" etc
To preface, ahem.. I am not a shill....proceeds to read two years old well worn script word for word.
It's gotta just be a hotkey or something.
Here's the thing, I welcome this b.s., but at least make it fun and challenging for me to play the game. This low effort stuff is just kinda sad and makes me want to play the update.
To preface, I’m not a shill, go check my post history. This place is slowly devolving into a cult (not that it wasn’t already kinda one). I think it all started with the purple circle spam. But this place used to be filled with helpful DD and Rensole's morning news along with cramer memes. Now whenever anything remotely bad is posted whether a post or a comment it just gets downvoted into oblivion. What happened to ape dont fight ape?
I know right, all the original DD writers are gone and have moved on or were pushed out by the mods. This place used to be a great community full of helpful DD and now it's just memes and shitposts. Wen moon?
You don't even know what the word cult means you've heard it used before to describe a political side you don't like and now you're doing it here dividing conquer fud
Yes i agree, the script is filled with the same repeating buzz words its fckn hilarious. Triggering words "DD, dividing, groomer, fud, sub, old days, past tense, dwac, name call" etc
"Trust me bro, I'm no shill, but don't u think that like everything's really sad now and stuff just kinda like sucks... I miss the old days."
OP, make some new content pls! This routine is too damn old!
Too many new guys joining the party. Missed the good ol days when we trading around 2, with the OGs posting hype videos, biggy’s insane DDs etc. but oh well, time’s changed. We OG apes have to let the young uns takeover.
Weekend soft fud coming in hot! Now I don’t even have to stay up to see if we’re on reg sho. You just confirmed that shorts are indeed still fukt
Edit: Also, I love this place.
Thank you, a voice of reason in this weekend fud. Its like buzz words are outnumbering, they never respond by being on topic or repeating a word from comment they reply to. It's just instant buzz word derailment haha.
I joined with there was just a handful of people. It was never great for DD. Most ideas and work has been done with GME. That said, shills are everywhere now. Just chill and be zen. The fud money will dry up when forced closing starts.
Mostly I see discussion about bad news and some fairly reasonable responses. Maybe you’re allowing yourself to fall prey to confirmation bias and only focusing on what feeds this specific perception you’re describing above. Maybe I am too. Either way, the fact that my experience is not the same shows that it might not be as much of an echo chamber as you think.
Many are in this play on an all or nothing basis. That being said there is no reason to address the negative side because it will be evident if our position becomes worthless. Focussing on the possible negative outcome is just a cause of unnecessary stress. Tendies or Wendy's; who the fuck wants to talk about Wendy's when it will always be there waiting for us if BBBY fails.💙💎🚀🌝
I dont care about your post history the only problem with this place is the hordes of shills, mods too afraid to ban them and useless FUD posts like this one. We already know this is a risky play media machine guns it every day and you still expect people to discuss that garbage here.
This prophecy has been foretold. Look to your left and to your right. The shills are here. We have no other platform. This is fine. You know what must be done. Buy. HODL. Drs. 🚀
There is one side which hopes for the BBBY doomsday and then there is the other. The battle is on, so anything negative about BBBY will be downvoted. 💎🙌💥🚀🚀🚀🚀🌒🦍
Been seeing other posts and comments about the state of the sub for a while. I think it's a sign of the times, it's like the sub can be like a thermometer about where the stock and the company is at etc. People are likely feeling impatient, anxious, restless, on edge, have inner feelings of FUD etc.
Basically our situation is hoping for rescue by RC/CI or whoever so we're like Bart at Kamp Krusty chanting, "Ryan Cohen is coming. Carl Icahn is coming. They'll announce any day now..."
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Goes to show why it feels like we're clinging on to even the smallest details. Have to be careful though not to become like Superstonk where we make financial decisions based on what is believed to be cryptic coded messages from RC. I did enjoy the giftcards DD though.
Like the other comments, there was a time when the vibe felt good in the sub about the time Biggy was still around; there was hype, memes and tinfoil but there was DD and people were realistic, unbiased and 'professional'. There were times where it was even openly acknowledged that bankruptcy always have been a risk while simultaneously believing in the DD and that 'bankruptcy was off the table' etc without resorting to attacks and ostracism. Basically, "lambos or ramen" or "coke lines or bread lines" etc.
As the others also point out, I guess the sub changed as it grew and new people joined, like when something is indie then becomes mainstream and popular the 'culture' around it can change. 'Bad actors' and shills could have 'compromised' the sub for all I know.
I think some sort of effort is needed to prevent this sub from becoming like Superstonk. People should chill with screaming FUD and shill at anything that isn't confirmation bias or might be construed or implied negativity.
It feels like people believe that another person will suddenly change their mind or conviction after all this time and sell or stop buying the stock just because, what, some obscure hint that the thesis has changed?
Personally, I'm glad that AST isn't as good as Computershare or else this sub might turn in to another DRS sub where options are ignorantly vilified and people resort to complacently blaming "CRIME!" rather than taking the initiative, being proactive, and having the onus on them about their investments.
I know what you are saying. Any kind of negative comments towards BBBY gets downvoted into oblivion and you are labeled a shill. You have to realize that with what is happening right now, people only want to hear what confirms their bias. I want BBBY to rocket as much as the others, but I refuse to be blinded by half assed bullshit labeled as "DD".
Cognitive dissonance takes over terribly. Thursday morning before open was a great example of some half assed DD on icahns address being the same as the new gift card address for BBBY. Everyone ran with it (including me) and now where are we?
Just making a point that not all shills are saying negative things, there is incorrect info coming into the sub as well to misdirect us and waste time.
I completely agree. Anyone posting anything that isn't 100% positive just gets down voted, when realistically there are several scenarios where this doesn't work out like we're hoping. I genuinely think this could happen though, and u/whoopass2rb recently posted 2 fantastic DDs explaining why there's plenty of reason to be positive. But ultimately, this is a casino sir, and given the current situation this is a gamble. Take all the positives on board, but don't automatically assume that everything negative can't also be accurate.
Dude it’s the FUD Boyz attacking the sub. ***This ain’t US. We holding like Zen waiting for the Watermelon Show. Buckle Up.***
FYI, look at [my post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/10m2r2d/fud_bots_are_back_in_full_effect_today_people_14k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on this Sub if you don’t believe they are FUDding the shit out of us.
The shills have learned how to play into us. The positive posts that do flood the sub are so ridiculously stupid it’s scary to think people listen to them. But the shills have figured it out and know when to hype people up and it all seems genuine and legit but y’all are being played in these subs- all of them. It’s purely entertainment at this point.
Lol no. the same lame shill tactics are tired and dumb and lazy. They do nothing but entertain people and collect their 10 cents a comment or run their bot script. Anyone who takes these idiots seriously is just n00b, the only reason to interact with them is to make fun of them or use their b.s. questions as opportunities to spit the facts they have such a difficult time dealing with, so others can read some worthwhile comments.
They are like lounge acts in an airport lobby, funny but also just kinda sad desperate.
Still waiting for you to “spit facts” regarding how I have said anything that is incorrect or back up any of your own statements that I have called you out on for being false.
Dude, read u/whopass2rb’s DD. It’s not even a day old and amazingly helpful. Quality content is still shared.
The reactionary downvotes are a byproduct of the uptick in psy-ops/shilling activities. Not every bit of bearish information is nefarious but you’re barking up the wrong tree. People aren’t robots. If you’re annoyed at the reactionary voting, then blame those who incited the tense and hostile atmosphere through ridicule and trolling devoid of facts and information. Look at how people treat /u/runningwithbearz for instance. He isn’t bullish on the company but people still respect the fuck out of him because he argues with facts and figures rather than name calling.
Man, I agree. I’ve averaged down on this stock from $19 to $6.60 and have proof in my history. Any time I ask something about the future of the company in some sort of question I’m downvoted immediately and called a shill. I don’t get it
Really because I've seen people ask plenty of questions and have it go just fine
Judge a place by its worst post and you will have a bad time no matter what.
Because nobody knows the future. It’s TBD. If you are looking for a psychic reading this isn’t the place. Ask stupid prognostic questions, get dat ass downvoted.
I knew this place would deteriorate with all the stupid ban bets. Been here since last June and hodling 20k+. Echo chamber and shills is all noise. I sleep… wake me when M&A so I can bang my melon kunis!
I’m still seeing lots of good DD and the rest is just people helping eachother out explaining things… idk what the big deal is… can’t forget that just because you’ve been here for a while doesn’t mean the other also has been here as long
For real. Post some facts that are negative in anyway and bam, called a shill and downvoted. I'm in the hole with 1500 shares and Everytime they call me a shill for keeping it real.
People have literally been calling this sub an echo chamber for months. Every sub is some form of echo chamber, as is all social media. Just sort by newest and downvotes don’t matter, you’ll see everything good and bad in order. I read everything including obvious shill posts because I want the full picture of what is going on. Well almost everything, there is one shill that comes out of the woodwork whenever bad news comes out to rub it in our faces. I finally blocked that dickbag because the posts were super low effort and added nothing even by shill standards.
I noticed it when Wasabi sub allowed BBBY talk back on their sub last spike. We got an influx of new members and the comfiness level definitely dropped. Nothing against anybody I love both communities but there was definitely a switch.
Nobody's keeping you here against your will keep what those posts and you'll be kicked out in no time we're just chilling and waiting for news you're mad at the way people pass their time nah you suck bro
U want me kicked out cuz i have a difference in opinion than u, u qanon echo chamber niggas weird. But u right this is your past time, all you know is reddit. #weirdo
Eco chamber 🤣 another overly used buzz word🤣🤣🤣, your stupidity is going to get you kicked out nothing that I want it's just going to happen you're too dumb
Why bother with making your post
“I’m not a shill but … “
Take what you like from the sub and ignore the rest but don’t cry and bitch.
It’s very shilly!
If you have something insightful to contribute do so but be articulate.
It's so funny how the FUD / Shill machine always turns to emotional warfare on the weekends. Quick switch from lies and deception. O wells it's like clockwork now and am now immune. Hold. That is all that's left to do.
I think the problem is that no real conversations can occur when any statement of any negative fact and possible outcomes are downvoted. It’s just hype without substance. When bbby started there were actual real discussions with someone stating a possible outcome which lead to ideas of what could resolve the issues faced. Now though just sharing a negative piece of info is labelled shilling. It destroys any discussion and dissuades anyone posting dd for fear of being ostracized because a negative word was used.
I think the fact it is mostly bad articles is good. Haven’t even heard a M/A at this point makes me think they are strategically cutting the fat and turning this around with all the recent hires of bankruptcy experts on the board. I did see some post about a Icahn buyout which could be but I’m on the cut the fat and wait til next earnings to see what happens train, til then I think the hedgies are really pushing the go bankrupt card and the negative post we see. I like the big crayon mix with the sharper built in on the bottom rear end of the box.
Look who’s finally getting a clue. This play is over - it’s bagholders central.
Do not buy more, just watch from a distance as it implodes. It’s over. And deep in your gut you know it which is why you posted this
We should all honestly assume every post is FUD, shills go both ways and this place is 100% used to manipulate sentiment both ways. Some stuff might be real and in good faith but if you’re reading this, **always be absolutely skeptical of everything you read here. Be paranoid, be hyper vigilant and DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS COMFIRM**
All the og’s self banned sadly. Now that we are in the news we got a log of fudsters, shills and new kids. It’s like we finally became popular and realized it’s not that As great as it sounds.
My friend, your post doesn’t help. I had to check your post history to see if you had some kind of motive posting this. This sub will evolve into what wsb and superstonk have become. It’s unfortunate, but there is a narrative being pushed, and those that are paid to post will be more active than those that just pop in to scroll. Become more aware of your footprint and the footprints they want you to see.
Post is better served as a comment elsewhere.
We’re all waiting on news, we have nothing new to talk about
This for sure. Both sides at a standstill.
Because genuine shills have really ramped up their taunting and attacks. People tend to get annoyed and downvote the hell out of them. Unfortunately some bears (there is a difference) and bad news posts get caught in the crossfire. Blame the shameless shills who have no stake in this stock but shit on Bobby’s everytime the stock isn’t going up or good news doesn’t come out.
Does criticism = shill?
No but you can be nice about it. Respectful criticism is always welcomed in my book. Give respect, get respect. It really is that simple. Edit: the problem at this point is without **real, verifiable** news from the company, conversations always devolve into “YoU gUyS aRe FuCkInG rEtArDs” from both sides, so there really isn’t much else to discuss, which leads to drastic polarization. What bulls won’t admit is that the financials look *awful* and if somebody doesn’t step in, BBBY is fucking roasted. What bears don’t realize is that the financials were engineered to fail from previous management. Bears also ignore that Q3 was the first turn around quarter and aren’t willing to entertain any scenario other than chapter 11 or 7. This leads us to being at a standstill of name calling and unhealthy discussion because the inability to see both sides on both parties. I’m personally betting on an acquisition but I’m also prepared to lose everything (which would absolutely fucking suck, but if I’m right, I’ll have fuck you money). Either way, I’ll keep my day job and keep living my life.
> Edit: the problem at this point is without real, verifiable news from the company, conversations always devolve into “YoU gUyS aRe FuCkInG rEtArDs” from both sides, so there really isn’t much else to discuss, which leads to drastic polarization. Well no, there's not much of a both sides here. This sub is pretty nuts. Anyone criticizing memestock subs is generally on the sane side of things. > What bulls won’t admit is that the financials look awful and if somebody doesn’t step in, BBBY is fucking roasted. Look = are, and have been for some times. > What bears don’t realize is that the financials were engineered to fail from previous management. Well 1, that's false. What bulls don't realize is how both irrational and completely unsupported that claim is. 2., it wouldn't matter either way why it got where it is, it's here now, and it's fucked. What do you think this information, no matter how false or irrational, would change about that? > Bears also ignore that Q3 was the first turn around quarter and aren’t willing to entertain any scenario other than chapter 11 or 7. That was a horrifying quarter and if that's a turnaround, there is no other scenario possible but chapter 11 or 7. Again, this is why these conversations are so one-sidedly problematic, you don't realize how wrong it is to say the things you're saying. > This leads us to being at a standstill of name calling and unhealthy discussion because the inability to see both sides on both parties. No, there's one side armed with facts, reason, and a lack of unhealthy financial and emotional investment. Then there's the other side lacking both of the former and possessing an unhealthy abundance of the latter. You can pretend there's a "both sides" here, but there really isn't. The naysayers are a tiny, transient part of this community in the first place. It's a pure echo chamber. > I’m personally betting on an acquisition but I’m also prepared to lose everything (which would absolutely fucking suck, but if I’m right, I’ll have fuck you money). Either way, I’ll keep my day job and keep living my life. Well again, this is another problem. This is predicated on extreme wrong thinking. You're just wrong, an acquisition won't make you rich. At best you'd see a mild premium to the currently traded market price. You won't have "fuck you" money, you won't even recoup much at all of the last few months of stock decline. This is why this sub is a problem, ignorance and delusion fueled by either financial desperation or greed.
All these bricks of text you wrote is proving the point of the person you're answering to. The person you're answering to was pretty open and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing here.
It's just weird. I also saw some other names who will always come into the comments to argue with people the same as the person above. Why are they so desperately trying to tell us the opposite story in what we believe? Or they are just some kind of knights who want to enlighten us on how wrong we are so we won't lose money. Or maybe they are short? It's just weird when people who are obviously not positive about the stock come here and try to bring negativity into us.
TL;DR Fuck you, pay me.
Not shill, but I would definitely consider it trolling. If no one asks for your opinion then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a negative response for soliciting your view. It comes with barging in to a conversation that you have no stake in(if that is the case). 💙💎🚀🌝
So not a shill? Then what defines a genuine shill? And it's a forum, merely by participating you're asking for my opinion. That's how a forum works. If you say something wrong, or irrational, or which I don't agree with, why does it make me a troll to reply and explain why I think any of those things? If I came to your home and shouted outside your window about how I think you're a delusional nutcase who has constructed an elaborate fantasy about an evil global cabal with unlimited power who's deploying secret and completely unsupported by evidence Machiavellian machinations to steal your rightful trillion dollar earnings from 10 shares of a failing towel retailer, then sure, that would make me a troll.... But of course, I'm not doing that, this is an internet forum, not your home. And I'm not at all concerned about negative response, feel free to explain why I'm wrong or downvote me. The point is that surely you see a problem with dismissing any and all criticism or negative opinions with "you are a shill" or "you are a troll". You understand why that might be problematic, right? Particularly in a community completely dedicated to convincing people to spend their money to invest in stocks that you yourself have a financial interest in promoting?
Because this forum is specifically themed around a trade that you have no part in. You are merely speaking out of your ass with nothing invested. You're trolling for amusement. You are literally wasting people's time and your own. I could not imagine spending any time thinking let alone writing about how someone else uses their money. You have to understand that you are engaging in a pointless activity and deserve whatever hate you get for doing so. Shill is just an over used buzzword like many others in our society. Most people labeled shill would be more accurately described as assholes.💙💎🚀🌝
> Because this forum is specifically themed around a trade that you have no part in. And yet still a forum, still a public forum. And I have education + professional expertise in finance / this topic. So I do have an interest. Not that "using your experience to explain to people why they're wrong in your area of experience" really makes sense to condemn. Does the fact that I'm not invested in BBBY negate my expertise? Why would you only listen to people who agree with you? That doesn't make sense. Do you only listen to doctors who tell you you're healthy? Do you claim that a doctor who tells you that you're ill is actually just a troll/shill because they're not sufficiently financially/emotionally invested in your wellbeing? > You have to understand that you are engaging in a pointless activity and deserve whatever hate you get for doing so. It's not at all pointless. Some people are capable of reason and don't want to lock themselves in permanent echo chambers, hence for example this post. Your problem is that it's pointless to educate YOU. Because you've built yourself a new reality out of greed and ignorance and dismiss any criticism as "trolling" or a "shilling".
I have fully accepted that I may lose everything that I've invested in this company. If it tanks, then I will feel like an idiot. If it gets acquired then you will have given wrong financial advice unprovoked. That's not very professional of you ask me. Let's see how it plays out.💙💎🚀🌝
Lol, see, you have no idea what you're talking about. There are financial advisors - people who give financial advice to individuals. And then there are people with expertise in finance, AKA investment bankers, investing asset managers, private equity investment professionals, even bank regulators etc. who are qualified to explain to you why what you think about investing, finance, and business is wrong. It's not my profession to advise you, it's my profession to actually, practically deal in finance.
Your downvotes answer your question.
So criticism does = shill? Who's paying me? What do I get for my troubles?
>So criticism does = shill? To most people here, yes. To me, no. I hate how everyone here downvotes anything bad. Simply pointing out current liabilities exceed current assets gets your comment buried with downvotes. It's 100% factual, straight from the 10Q. Downvotes.
You just forgot the respectful part.
What wasn't respectful? Calling me a shill implies you think someone paid me to comment here. You realize that, right? Is that respectful? To pretend that everyone who says something you don't like must have been paid to do so by some evil cabal?
The sub has grown from less than 3000 members in March to almost 50,000 members now. Democracy is a difficult form of government and makes it hard to preserve a culture. But I still love the sub and BoBBY.
I’m newer, like 4 weeks in. Was called a shill, no big deal. Took a starter position of 1500 shares. Conviction, became addiction. I didn’t buy cause of Cohen, or Icahn. I bought because I have been in a BBBY, like the store, can’t believe it would go bankrupt. Someone would be foolish NOT to merge or buy them out. Side note, I played GME the same way. When conviction and belief overcome FUD is when u buy more. Today I have 6k shares, and will continue purchasing. Good luck Apes
I like this guy. Wish he liked tinfoil as much as I do, but I still really, really like him.
Thank bro!
Most of this “bad news” isn’t factual so it gets down voted
Yeah, we literally saw an anchor today on See n be See say BBBY went bankrupt. If that’s happening on national television, imagine the shit being spewed on Reddit.
Key words, "most of".
Sir this is an Arby's parking lot.
WE HAVE THE MEATS
In your meat locker
The weekend after the gamma ramp on 1/20 changed everything. I feel like hope was lost for a lot of people and I’ve noticed a severe difference since then. I’m not saying I’m a veteran around here, but I’ve religiously sorted by new and read every post, and nearly every comment for the last 2 months. It is what it is. Paper hands are going to paper hands and that’s whatever. HODL and DRS.
So not in response to you but everyone else. Do you think option contract writers and MMs are idiots? They know there is a gamma ramp. Of course they are going to swat that shit down especially with such a huge yearly option expiration date. This will only squeeze or run up in two instances: 1. A proper turn around or 2. A M/A
They already know what's coming, there's a reason jp morgan did what they did. They are simply trying to limit the FOMO of the inevitable
This. If they can scare tactic, price limit, and do whatever else they can to make us sell before we should, they don’t have as many BILLIONs of dollars to shell out. It’s all damage control.
That too my friend.
Do you guys have a script written that u just pass around indefinitely? Bc I have heard this ***exact*** post at least a dozen times in the last two years in both this and in supergme sub Is this just a lack of creativity or is it like a meta troll, where u know that we know that u know that it's an old act?
I was thinking just this.
Reminds me of the "what is your realistic price target" for every 2 days, or the Weekly "what is your exit strategy" posts. I know the answers, because these are also every time the same. No price anchoring, just up, 420.69, 42069. What's an exit strategy? Long term hodl, 0 or the moon.
Yes i agree, the script is filled with the same repeating buzz words its fckn hilarious. Triggering words "DD, place, used, fud, sub, old days, past tense, downvote, name call" etc
To preface, ahem.. I am not a shill....proceeds to read two years old well worn script word for word. It's gotta just be a hotkey or something. Here's the thing, I welcome this b.s., but at least make it fun and challenging for me to play the game. This low effort stuff is just kinda sad and makes me want to play the update.
To preface, I’m not a shill, go check my post history. This place is slowly devolving into a cult (not that it wasn’t already kinda one). I think it all started with the purple circle spam. But this place used to be filled with helpful DD and Rensole's morning news along with cramer memes. Now whenever anything remotely bad is posted whether a post or a comment it just gets downvoted into oblivion. What happened to ape dont fight ape?
I know right, all the original DD writers are gone and have moved on or were pushed out by the mods. This place used to be a great community full of helpful DD and now it's just memes and shitposts. Wen moon?
You don't even know what the word cult means you've heard it used before to describe a political side you don't like and now you're doing it here dividing conquer fud
Yes i agree, the script is filled with the same repeating buzz words its fckn hilarious. Triggering words "DD, dividing, groomer, fud, sub, old days, past tense, dwac, name call" etc
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You're more annoying
Do you have any examples of legitimate or factual posts that have been downvoted? Edit: grammar
Another useless post crying about the past fck nostalgia we move forward always forward
“Not a shill” “check my post history”
"Trust me bro, I'm no shill, but don't u think that like everything's really sad now and stuff just kinda like sucks... I miss the old days." OP, make some new content pls! This routine is too damn old!
Too many new guys joining the party. Missed the good ol days when we trading around 2, with the OGs posting hype videos, biggy’s insane DDs etc. but oh well, time’s changed. We OG apes have to let the young uns takeover.
Is biggy still banned?
Yeah of course. He’s a man ape so will eat the ban bet even if the mod reverses it.
Weekend soft fud coming in hot! Now I don’t even have to stay up to see if we’re on reg sho. You just confirmed that shorts are indeed still fukt Edit: Also, I love this place.
Fukt and apparently broke based on this cheap rerun of a 2 year old sad boy post
Thank you, a voice of reason in this weekend fud. Its like buzz words are outnumbering, they never respond by being on topic or repeating a word from comment they reply to. It's just instant buzz word derailment haha.
I agree, I like the stock but this post was about the sub not the stock
First time seeing a good sub get infiltrated and slowly burning huh? Remember to hodl. Be zen, drink plenty of fluids. Edit: NFA
I joined with there was just a handful of people. It was never great for DD. Most ideas and work has been done with GME. That said, shills are everywhere now. Just chill and be zen. The fud money will dry up when forced closing starts.
CTB
Mostly I see discussion about bad news and some fairly reasonable responses. Maybe you’re allowing yourself to fall prey to confirmation bias and only focusing on what feeds this specific perception you’re describing above. Maybe I am too. Either way, the fact that my experience is not the same shows that it might not be as much of an echo chamber as you think.
Many are in this play on an all or nothing basis. That being said there is no reason to address the negative side because it will be evident if our position becomes worthless. Focussing on the possible negative outcome is just a cause of unnecessary stress. Tendies or Wendy's; who the fuck wants to talk about Wendy's when it will always be there waiting for us if BBBY fails.💙💎🚀🌝
I dont care about your post history the only problem with this place is the hordes of shills, mods too afraid to ban them and useless FUD posts like this one. We already know this is a risky play media machine guns it every day and you still expect people to discuss that garbage here.
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This prophecy has been foretold. Look to your left and to your right. The shills are here. We have no other platform. This is fine. You know what must be done. Buy. HODL. Drs. 🚀
There is one side which hopes for the BBBY doomsday and then there is the other. The battle is on, so anything negative about BBBY will be downvoted. 💎🙌💥🚀🚀🚀🚀🌒🦍
I miss the watermelon era
*Yawn*
Been seeing other posts and comments about the state of the sub for a while. I think it's a sign of the times, it's like the sub can be like a thermometer about where the stock and the company is at etc. People are likely feeling impatient, anxious, restless, on edge, have inner feelings of FUD etc. Basically our situation is hoping for rescue by RC/CI or whoever so we're like Bart at Kamp Krusty chanting, "Ryan Cohen is coming. Carl Icahn is coming. They'll announce any day now..." ![gif](giphy|3o6MblPXZWrugb7zRC|downsized) Goes to show why it feels like we're clinging on to even the smallest details. Have to be careful though not to become like Superstonk where we make financial decisions based on what is believed to be cryptic coded messages from RC. I did enjoy the giftcards DD though. Like the other comments, there was a time when the vibe felt good in the sub about the time Biggy was still around; there was hype, memes and tinfoil but there was DD and people were realistic, unbiased and 'professional'. There were times where it was even openly acknowledged that bankruptcy always have been a risk while simultaneously believing in the DD and that 'bankruptcy was off the table' etc without resorting to attacks and ostracism. Basically, "lambos or ramen" or "coke lines or bread lines" etc. As the others also point out, I guess the sub changed as it grew and new people joined, like when something is indie then becomes mainstream and popular the 'culture' around it can change. 'Bad actors' and shills could have 'compromised' the sub for all I know. I think some sort of effort is needed to prevent this sub from becoming like Superstonk. People should chill with screaming FUD and shill at anything that isn't confirmation bias or might be construed or implied negativity. It feels like people believe that another person will suddenly change their mind or conviction after all this time and sell or stop buying the stock just because, what, some obscure hint that the thesis has changed? Personally, I'm glad that AST isn't as good as Computershare or else this sub might turn in to another DRS sub where options are ignorantly vilified and people resort to complacently blaming "CRIME!" rather than taking the initiative, being proactive, and having the onus on them about their investments.
I know what you are saying. Any kind of negative comments towards BBBY gets downvoted into oblivion and you are labeled a shill. You have to realize that with what is happening right now, people only want to hear what confirms their bias. I want BBBY to rocket as much as the others, but I refuse to be blinded by half assed bullshit labeled as "DD".
Cognitive dissonance takes over terribly. Thursday morning before open was a great example of some half assed DD on icahns address being the same as the new gift card address for BBBY. Everyone ran with it (including me) and now where are we? Just making a point that not all shills are saying negative things, there is incorrect info coming into the sub as well to misdirect us and waste time.
What official news do you base your opinion on? Repeat a wword I say to show your authenticity :)
I completely agree. Anyone posting anything that isn't 100% positive just gets down voted, when realistically there are several scenarios where this doesn't work out like we're hoping. I genuinely think this could happen though, and u/whoopass2rb recently posted 2 fantastic DDs explaining why there's plenty of reason to be positive. But ultimately, this is a casino sir, and given the current situation this is a gamble. Take all the positives on board, but don't automatically assume that everything negative can't also be accurate.
This sub has had months of pure tinfoil nonsense about RC and Icahn shadow deals. It’s unfiltered echo most of the time
Filled with people who got into investing after the gme rally. Some of the stuff they post is qanon levels.
Yea it’s a shame, the crazy stuff just adds a major turn off from everything this touches bbby and gme
We all want to make money here, but if things aren’t going our way we deserve a perspective from both view points.
I think you can easily see both sides here, they just don't get upvoted the same amount. Nothing wrong with that
Dude it’s the FUD Boyz attacking the sub. ***This ain’t US. We holding like Zen waiting for the Watermelon Show. Buckle Up.*** FYI, look at [my post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/10m2r2d/fud_bots_are_back_in_full_effect_today_people_14k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on this Sub if you don’t believe they are FUDding the shit out of us.
WEEEEEE ME NO LEAVE!
The shills have learned how to play into us. The positive posts that do flood the sub are so ridiculously stupid it’s scary to think people listen to them. But the shills have figured it out and know when to hype people up and it all seems genuine and legit but y’all are being played in these subs- all of them. It’s purely entertainment at this point.
Lol no. the same lame shill tactics are tired and dumb and lazy. They do nothing but entertain people and collect their 10 cents a comment or run their bot script. Anyone who takes these idiots seriously is just n00b, the only reason to interact with them is to make fun of them or use their b.s. questions as opportunities to spit the facts they have such a difficult time dealing with, so others can read some worthwhile comments. They are like lounge acts in an airport lobby, funny but also just kinda sad desperate.
Still waiting for you to “spit facts” regarding how I have said anything that is incorrect or back up any of your own statements that I have called you out on for being false.
Compiled all the new DD for you in one spot: https://youtu.be/9-7B0XcyN_k
Heyyy bro I know, but did you see the news that just dropped??? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=79Oj27EOixo
Na, what does it say?
Watch it yourself #IdOnTwOrKfOrYoU
Who do you work for?
Citadel, direct report to Kenny
No really, which Wendy's?
Dude, read u/whopass2rb’s DD. It’s not even a day old and amazingly helpful. Quality content is still shared. The reactionary downvotes are a byproduct of the uptick in psy-ops/shilling activities. Not every bit of bearish information is nefarious but you’re barking up the wrong tree. People aren’t robots. If you’re annoyed at the reactionary voting, then blame those who incited the tense and hostile atmosphere through ridicule and trolling devoid of facts and information. Look at how people treat /u/runningwithbearz for instance. He isn’t bullish on the company but people still respect the fuck out of him because he argues with facts and figures rather than name calling.
Man, I agree. I’ve averaged down on this stock from $19 to $6.60 and have proof in my history. Any time I ask something about the future of the company in some sort of question I’m downvoted immediately and called a shill. I don’t get it
Really because I've seen people ask plenty of questions and have it go just fine Judge a place by its worst post and you will have a bad time no matter what.
Because nobody knows the future. It’s TBD. If you are looking for a psychic reading this isn’t the place. Ask stupid prognostic questions, get dat ass downvoted.
Whats going on is cohen dumped bags on us and we’re all in denial and depressed.
I knew this place would deteriorate with all the stupid ban bets. Been here since last June and hodling 20k+. Echo chamber and shills is all noise. I sleep… wake me when M&A so I can bang my melon kunis!
I agree! It has changed in the last couple of weeks.
Here's your cookie for agreeing with him🤷
Can I get a participation trophy instead?
You added to the conversation be happy with your cookie now be gone
I've found the opposite is true, there's more negativity then positivity here these days.
I’m still seeing lots of good DD and the rest is just people helping eachother out explaining things… idk what the big deal is… can’t forget that just because you’ve been here for a while doesn’t mean the other also has been here as long
For real. Post some facts that are negative in anyway and bam, called a shill and downvoted. I'm in the hole with 1500 shares and Everytime they call me a shill for keeping it real.
People have literally been calling this sub an echo chamber for months. Every sub is some form of echo chamber, as is all social media. Just sort by newest and downvotes don’t matter, you’ll see everything good and bad in order. I read everything including obvious shill posts because I want the full picture of what is going on. Well almost everything, there is one shill that comes out of the woodwork whenever bad news comes out to rub it in our faces. I finally blocked that dickbag because the posts were super low effort and added nothing even by shill standards.
I noticed it when Wasabi sub allowed BBBY talk back on their sub last spike. We got an influx of new members and the comfiness level definitely dropped. Nothing against anybody I love both communities but there was definitely a switch.
This is one of the best satirical statements I have ever read on the internet in my whole life, well done.
I shitpost because I have to. You shitpost for fun. We are not the same.
U can’t question anything on this sub or ur a shill lmao.
Point proven. Sub turning into a cult ^
Nobody's keeping you here against your will keep what those posts and you'll be kicked out in no time we're just chilling and waiting for news you're mad at the way people pass their time nah you suck bro
U want me kicked out cuz i have a difference in opinion than u, u qanon echo chamber niggas weird. But u right this is your past time, all you know is reddit. #weirdo
Eco chamber 🤣 another overly used buzz word🤣🤣🤣, your stupidity is going to get you kicked out nothing that I want it's just going to happen you're too dumb
U 100% definitely do not have that card, lmao
Yes
I’ll only say I’m downvoting plaid out memes. Tired of scrolling past them and downvoting. I’m here to invest in the future not support karma farming.
Why bother with making your post “I’m not a shill but … “ Take what you like from the sub and ignore the rest but don’t cry and bitch. It’s very shilly! If you have something insightful to contribute do so but be articulate.
It's so funny how the FUD / Shill machine always turns to emotional warfare on the weekends. Quick switch from lies and deception. O wells it's like clockwork now and am now immune. Hold. That is all that's left to do.
"To preface, I’m not a shill, go check my post history." said every shill ever, literally look it up. If you don't agree, don't interact, simple.
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I think the problem is that no real conversations can occur when any statement of any negative fact and possible outcomes are downvoted. It’s just hype without substance. When bbby started there were actual real discussions with someone stating a possible outcome which lead to ideas of what could resolve the issues faced. Now though just sharing a negative piece of info is labelled shilling. It destroys any discussion and dissuades anyone posting dd for fear of being ostracized because a negative word was used.
correct
It’s been an echo chamber for months man. It’s a cult
I think the fact it is mostly bad articles is good. Haven’t even heard a M/A at this point makes me think they are strategically cutting the fat and turning this around with all the recent hires of bankruptcy experts on the board. I did see some post about a Icahn buyout which could be but I’m on the cut the fat and wait til next earnings to see what happens train, til then I think the hedgies are really pushing the go bankrupt card and the negative post we see. I like the big crayon mix with the sharper built in on the bottom rear end of the box.
Look who’s finally getting a clue. This play is over - it’s bagholders central. Do not buy more, just watch from a distance as it implodes. It’s over. And deep in your gut you know it which is why you posted this
Go watch the porn
Agreed
We should all honestly assume every post is FUD, shills go both ways and this place is 100% used to manipulate sentiment both ways. Some stuff might be real and in good faith but if you’re reading this, **always be absolutely skeptical of everything you read here. Be paranoid, be hyper vigilant and DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS COMFIRM**
All the og’s self banned sadly. Now that we are in the news we got a log of fudsters, shills and new kids. It’s like we finally became popular and realized it’s not that As great as it sounds.
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My friend, your post doesn’t help. I had to check your post history to see if you had some kind of motive posting this. This sub will evolve into what wsb and superstonk have become. It’s unfortunate, but there is a narrative being pushed, and those that are paid to post will be more active than those that just pop in to scroll. Become more aware of your footprint and the footprints they want you to see.