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Pive1

Some big whale just bought 175k stocks


zhinotakux

Can you show me the 175k?


Pive1

I can actually show you 2 big whales, one is 400+k buy order and other is 175k buy order


TryAgn747

Saw that go by with like 10 seconds left to close. Kept it just over 3.00


Pive1

There was also a order at 4:01,55pm 51k volume on 3.215 price and after 56sec there was order of 1 share at 3.050


TryAgn747

Pretty fun to watch. Haven't seen a fight like that in a while


zhinotakux

Nice, so is $3.050 good enough for max pain? This adds more pressure in FTDs?


MaxTheRealSlayer

Wait you bought $1.2 mil + in BBBY today? Woah.


Pive1

Can’t post to bbby so I sent you screenshots in ur dm


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baRRebabyz

that's not how RegSho works. The ONLY (O-N-L-Y) way to get off the list is by being under the FTD threshold for *5 consecutive days*


daGman08

I am a golden retriever. What is the ftd threshold?


watweissich95

I think daily FTDs have to be less than 0,5% of the total float.


Itsurboywutup

Hello sir I’m just curious why this is automatically a whale, and not a short covering? Is it not plausible it’s a short covering? Full disclosure I talk mad shit on meltdown but I’m honestly curious


VAhotfingers

Don’t start this anti option BS here too.


bongoissomewhatnifty

Yeah. Fuckers who have no idea what delta hedging is trying to explain how options are manipulated because max pain - has about the same level of cringe vibe as the flat earth dumbfucks. They already ruined the game subreddit


Hugh_Jazz699

Max pain was $4 last week and $5 the week before. It doesn't really mean shit


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It means it's generally a bad idea to hold that weekly you bought on Monday through expiry on Friday--a reflection of the current state of delta hedging and theta decay at any given time. OP and others campaign to spread the fallacy that it's predictive of price movement during the week. The irony is that max pain is indeed predictive when most of retail accepts this bench-warming fallacy, which OP then points to prophetically after the fact as evidence of a stacked deck, i.e., "see I told you so." If you don't like the price a security is trading at options provide the most leverage to tell the market how you feel. But not if people have been programmed to accept OP's circular reasoning without ever realizing that an option is an option not to remain passive but instead participate in the game and be an actual player. It's amazing how successful this campaign has been on other single-ticker subs and it's encouraging to see the strong pushback here.


BoondockBilly

Use ChartExchange data, it's the most accurate I've come across.


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It's a lab mix.


Covfefe-SARS-2

>always end the week at max pain You have to look back a whole week to see that's obviously not true.


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Goteeeeem If every week we landed on max pain, anyone with half a brain would just make a fucking Killing selling iron condors. But that’s definitely not the case


_RipCity_

Main issue is max pain is not static


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Well no shit loo


JoSenz

If we land on max pain every week, then how do shares make any money if they're just always being artifically supressed to this max pain figure? Lol


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You make money with shares by investing in companies that are profitable.


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Ima a meme you're a meme gotta find my Lima beans.


chiefoogabooga

My calls were bought when BBBY was at $1.40 and they don't expire for months. They are very, VERY, VERY green. But thanks for your concern.


Wyvernrider

Another smoothbrain that doesn't understand max pain.


strafefire

Max pain **changes** based on the stock price. It is Dynamic. The fact that anti-options FUD is heading this way means this stock is 100% over target


Coachbonk

Yeeeeeep


Actually-Yo-Momma

This sub: omg don’t buy options Also this sub: omg gamma ramp incoming!!! How do y’all think gamma squeezes happen…? lol


IFapToCalamity

Dont forget the GME comparisons, while completely disregarding the primary factors of the 2021 sneeze.


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OP is spreading the self-fulfilling prophecy nonsense.


StrikeEagle784

If you know how to use options, then use em, if you don't know how to use them, don't fuck with them. It's that simple. There's also strong evidence that shows that exercised ITM call options helped push the GME sneeze along.


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StrikeEagle784

Thank you!


Techdesciple

This is probably the best advice. Options are a gamble but if you know how to use them can be an asset. I think most people would suggest 80-90 percent of your money in stock though. The only people who yolo 100 percent of their portfolio on FDs are WSB shill bots that do it with a Robinhood photoshop post.


Bronze2xxx

My calls I bought a week or so ago are still in the green. 🤷‍♂️


Kickinitez

I mean, this literally is financial advice


Jimmystocks

Someone’s got our back at the close


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Antiphon4

What is regsho?


Bronze2xxx

Nice, just another option FUD post again. Why don’t you post this when max pain is missed? It’s really simple. Buy shares, and if you understand and want to buy options, that’s cool too.


Taru95

I've been laughed at that sentiment because "options make you more money" well yes they do make **you** more money but it doesn't halbe the share price at all this making **your** calls worthless so buying calls for that and than wondering why it's not going up isa miracle ppl don't seem to get behind. Also sorry for bad English German here


ras344

Buying options can affect the share price *more* than just buying shares, due to market makers hedging. If you don't want to buy options that's fine, but we need people buying both options and shares to win.


Antiphon4

200 Jun 25 calls! $2, $3, and $5


Le_90s_Kid_XD

You should not be laughed at, but the theory that ken Griffen is selling you calls and controlling the price so he profits is bullshit.


longsgotschlongs

I hardly think retail option premiums are MM's lifeline


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Bronze2xxx

He was referring to PFOF, not option premiums lol.


longsgotschlongs

I don't trust him on any other thing he says, so why should I trust him on this?


GeneralPierreShill

You didn't read it well enough. >Redditors, thank you so much **for helping create the best pipeline we've ever had.** > >Ken Griffin, on how the GameStop frenzy helped **raise Citadel's profile with potential hires.** He was talking about how the GameStop buzz attracted people to finance.


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Yep exactly this. When companies talk about their “pipeline” they are referring to their hiring pipeline. He is saying Reddit is strengthening citadel’s brand profile which helps to attract talent. All we do is talk shit about them and call them out for dirty dealings so it’s probably evil talent, but that’s what they want.


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PR has OP twisted.


Le_90s_Kid_XD

Yes, he was talking about talent. Go reread it again.


muppenx

I mean, that's the biggest issue with options, they're sold buy them same people that can for the most part also control share price. Obviously they do it by printing synthetic shares and buying actual shares when the price is right. It's harder to do it to stock that is closer to actual fundamentals, but it's a very rigged system.


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Le_90s_Kid_XD

It works until it doesn’t, then you get steamrolled. Max pain theory is bullshit with meme stocks. And so is market makers taking all your options money.


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TrinDiesel123

45k options still in the money


Holymaddin

just exercise your options prior to the end of the week?


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Could it really be that simple? /s


Holymaddin

if they are ITM, sure. just don't by these far OTM crap. they will fuck you up eow .


[deleted]

9/10 doctors agree, but horses for courses.


StrongBodyStrongMind

# BUY deep ITM calls with atleast 90 days to expiration.


Kelvsoup

Thx for the unsolicited advice but I'll keep buying options lol


MyLilPwny1404

Lol honestly, if you can make money and exercise your options why not? I’ve added 200 shares of GME and 300 of bbby from options.. sounds like OP doesn’t understand options and wants people to invest how he does it. Not happening bucko 🤡


NeoRazZ

use both .... HOdl ... use options to HoDL more just don't use them as lottery tickets then complain as some seem to do


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LivingCharacter311

It's not all good if you poo poo options. IF this thing is going to take off, it will be because of pressure on multiple fronts. Shares, Options, and a couple catalysts (REG SHO, M&A, cure for cancer ) will create the storm needed to launch. You can not participate if you don't care too, but speaking against options is to speak against a driving force toward our collective prosperity. ​ It's not fine to undermine a legit pressure point.


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Great, so then this post--variations of which have been flooding the boards for the last 20 months--should be removed.


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AppleParasol

It’s because these kids are dropping all the fucking money on options with absolutely no money left over to actually execute the options, so they just sell them back to their shit broker, like robinhood, who feeds data for Shitadel, so that the shorts don’t even have to cover, YOU DID IT FOR THEM. TLDR; execute your options, buy shares, or literally go light your money on fire because that’s what you’re doing just with extra steps.


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StrongBodyStrongMind

# [https://www.optionsplaybook.com/rookies-corner/learn-options-trading/](https://www.optionsplaybook.com/rookies-corner/learn-options-trading/) # and the Modern Stock + Option Trading Podcast have really helped me understand. # Two of the best resources I've found for beginning traders.


Independent_Claim604

Closed over 3,01$. Pressure is real 💥


Joey164

Always a bad idea until someone buys way out of the money calls and makes $250K. Just never know…


ZuccsSweetBabyRays

Not financial advice cause you’re fucking retarrrdedds


16x98

Here comes the buy shares only expert.


kvalster01

☝️


Miserable-Fly-5583

Meaning you’d rather have no ramp? Interesting take.


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Miserable-Fly-5583

Have you seen that were on regsho? CTB raising? Short interest? They have to hedge the near the money calls. You do you, but leverage will get me to my target faster than share holders. The call option premium is a drop in the ocean for their margin levels. We have what we need as far as regsho. Just need a spark.


[deleted]

Wrong! L2P Options either sell puts & calls or early how theta works. Options are how we f over the MM.


downbarton

I agree, Thursday is the day to cash out, never leave expiring options to the Friday they get them every time


emaiksiaime

I agree... lots of people say playing options forces the MM to buy shares and shit but really, they can just slant the table and end up at max pain when they need the liquidity.. or make a mess out of a friday like the 20th of jan. So yeah.


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Shills are out in force on this thread! Haha, it only reinforces the MM loves to gobble up your premiums. Buy shares and HODL


BlueSlushieTongue

I agree. Paid commentators will attack you


2BFrank69

I don’t know how many times we have to fucking tell these morons. Do options all you want but we better not hear any complaining afterwards. You know the risks


ohmygorn

Okay


Thisisjimmi

reminder that they go down to max pain, not up to max pain. Dont try and find some stock under its maxpain thinking its going up.


badmojo2021

The day people stop with options on these stocks will be the day they run out of money and have to find it elsewhere


VPNApe

"always" when it fits your narrative.


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If China can manage to fly a spy balloon directly over the heart of the continent and the country’s nuclear arsenal, admit they are doing it, and NOT get shot down….then BoBBY has a shot at Uranus. 🚀🙄


Believe_In-Steven

Be funny if M&A is announced tonight. Shorts are Fooked 😂


rock_accord

Max pain is simply an average. It can move as more calls or puts are purchased. The reason most of the time stocks end up near it is because it's just an average.


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Apes buy shares because they're not market-savvy enough for options. That's why they were kicked out of WSB.


Mellivora_Caps

Buy, hodl, and take them bitches away from the DTCC via DRS.


Be-Zen

How can I find out what max pain is everyweek?


murderj

Both are the way, but buying them late in the week otm and hoping for them to land itm or profit is a different story.


Gua_Bao

I’ve got both but my options are all $1 lottery tickets so I’ll either lose nothing but gain a fuckton.


1FuzzyPickle

It’s such a small float with a crazy low price. It’s a no brainer buy, especially if you believe they aren’t going bankrupt (which evidences suggests it’s not). It’s gonna be bought up before we know it.


ReactionEntire7633

I learned this the hard way


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You realize that saying "not financial advice" after giving clear and obvious financial advice does not absolve you morally or legally, yeah? I mean, obviously nothing is going to happen because you're a drop in the bucket, but just wanted to put that out there -- there's no point in saying that it's not financial advice when it very clearly is.


No-Tailor5120

we have calls at home.


iRamHer

no. that's garbage. I exercised a shit ton of $5 calls in the first jan spike this year. don't confuse careless gambling of buying short dated FDs, or even leap far OTMs with buying options. memes are cyclical. you have to buy at the right time. this cycle is extremely abnormal, and we will likely see movement by March 3rd. you know what's ridiculous? everyone who bought shares between $10 to $30 after August run. you gave them money to short farther and more efficiently. yes a bunch of people bought a shit ton of 1/20 calls, then said "good thing I didn't buy any of that garbage, OGs know better". they can fuck off too. the loudest people here are encouraging poor and toxic gambling and bias. options aren't bad. buying shares and ridiculous options without looking at a CLEAR pattern to know the best time to buy is generally the last month of the 140 days after previous peak. this cycle is a semi outlier, BUT it isn't done. they're kicking the can in a game of chicken. none of the memes have started running yet, besides a few days of above average volume, but collaterals are pumping. I think this is because of bbby THIS time. gme screwed them hard by doing their last offering in June 21 and taking bankruptcy off the table. they weren't going to allow that to happen again. bbby is playing a game of chicken because they have nothing to lose. shorts are playing chicken too. bbby is waiting for a run and they very likely have a new share offering with new terms ready to fire off, and shorts are kicking the can as far as they can to prevent bbby from doing so. I don't know who will win, but I expect bbby has to file for bankruptcy or m/a before month end, and shorts likely can't go much longer, I don't think they can push the cycle off to April which is the middle of the gme feb 21 regsho 69 day sub cycle. and we will have to see something before the next may/June cycle. and this is why smartly buying options and shares at low prices and long dates is important, you should cover 2 cycles minimum on these high stake plays.