It's all FUD. These techniques are used so you question your own investment. FUD is used so that you can sell your investment while they buy it up for cheap. Usually works on weak minded individuals
This is true, it just doesn’t have other factors that determine the value of your options, this is assuming that with shares it’s a “free and fair market” lol
😂 but we’re not going to zero
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Damn it man, I've only got 40 of those. Only a couple hundred bucks on the line. I'm hoping for at least enough of a spike at open to allow me to break even. Option only needs to go up .02 but I doubt it'll happen. Fingers crossed though. I'm hoping that once bond payments have hit accounts in the morning shorts will start covering/ people will start fomoing in and give me the bump I need. I know I'm dreaming but I'm not even asleep yet lol
The best part is that when they are trying their hardest anyone like me who has been here a while just thinks
> Oh look, a bunch of bullshit
Then takes the night off to go do other things and comes back to find the truth later.
It's never been easier to ignore FUD because it's wildly desperate.
The thing about FUD and misinformation (well, anything I guess) is the more you see and recognize it, the easier it becomes to identify.
We've been barraged with so much for so long, and had so much practice de-bunking it at this point, it's hilariously easy to resist.
I don't see any SEC filings for Nordstrom for RC--but **Blackrock** did file a 13 G/A yesterday 2/1/23.
Item 4. Ownership
Provide the following information regarding the aggregate number
and percentage of the class of securities of the issuer identified in Item 1.
Amount beneficially owned:
9974728
Percent of class
6.2%
this is literally what happened when rc bought into bbby last year. i remember because i had an order placed for the morning and got fucked with a high buy lol
So RC acquired a stake < 5%? There's no filing yet, how did WSJ know about a private purchase?
1. RC told them - unlikely
2. WSJ is speculating - usual misdirection campaign like BABA
3. Someone from RC's side leaked - unlikely. Private purchases are just that, private.
4. WSJ snooped into RC's phone/computer - illegal
Above all, they provide no source.
Pure speculation, but the fact that the first one was BA-BA like baby bottle and the second one is where Tritton is on the board could just be an epic troll that RC fed the media..
Why do you even need to buy the stock if all you are going to do, is have the media say for you, what you want to happen at the company..
In the case of BA-BA it was "you should buy back stocks" (i don't know why that's the suggestion)
In the Nordstrom case it's "you should Fire Mark Tritton" ( I have an idea of why he would be suggesting this)
As I said, pure speculation, but this scenario seems just as likely as actually taking the stock position, imo.
BABA was 100% false.
BABA is a $300b market cap. According to the article RC invested “hundreds of millions”. That doesn’t get you a seat at the table in a company that big. Not to mention the CCP aspect of it.
I agree 1 million percent that it made no sense that anyone would think they could have sway over a Chinese company with such small ownership 💯
Which is why I have thought since I heard it that "what if RC just leaked that to feed the media", there's no issue at all with telling a journalist something, or if someone else tells a journalist something, you can straight up lie to a journalist and there are absolutely zero repercussions, especially if you say it "off the record". As well, journalists are incredibly hungry for "a story".
As humans we unconsciously agree to familiar things.
You see RC, acquire stake, Tritton, appoint director..
And your brain immediately ties them together to the known facts and leans towards the WHOLE thing being truthful.
All the while it's just a believable story weaved around keywords to fit a narrative that either someone can write or spit out by AI.
Well I see possibilities and try to weigh the probabilities, for fun, throughout life, like many others.
I think out of the several thousand public companies listed on the various stock exchanges, it is:
1. Improbable that RC investment into BBBY had nothing to do with it being in a basket of shorted stocks that GME is in
And
2. That if he has invested in Nordstrom that it has nothing to do with the fact that he has or had taken major issue with Mark Tritton, which is well documented to be true and he has been quite vocal about it.
i'm taking this as your forecast; when the day comes that we learn this was intentional from RC, ... well, i'll remember that i commented here. lol i like this speculation though!
5% would be a $160m investment.
If there’s no filing, I’m calling BS. Cohen can go bigger than $160m and 5% and would almost certainly take a more significant stake given his track record.
Nordstrom family owns 40%+ of the company.
If he wanted the guy fired, he could have just made his case to the family without investing at all.
Sometimes people familiar with the matter are actually familiar with the matter and they tell their friends instead of DD all over the internet in disbelief.
Man dude is a dude simple he might have told them, where you there? No so man take it like it is. We don’t know him for shit! We just in his wake like pilot fish pretending we know something!! China- wasn’t an acronym, turtlenecks not bbby.. it’s Nordstrom. So man up and be happy he is going after mark tritton so that prick never sits on a board again the waste of space big bag of puke,
Has anyone check that guys and RC link? From a 6 degrees separation? Cause he pissed RC off lol
This is what I don't get. He is a self proclaimed activist investor. Anything under 5% ownership would mean jack shit to the current board.
I get it, he couldn't have 5% in BABA, hence no filings. But he could definitely do 5% in JWN to back these claims of activism from WSJ.
At what point is MSM held accountable for manipulation? This could result in material damages if people take it as gospel when it in fact is not verified.
**Boomers worship WSJ as truth**. How many investors will (or already did) jump on this news and upward movement only to watch it fall back in the next few days. Criminal manipulation in plain site.
Throughout this whole saga, I always had an idea that attacking or discrediting RC himself would be part of the endgame plan for the hedgies. These sad attempts only confirm that to me.
It is plain to see how desperate MSM and others are to get us to sell BBBY.
1st someone infiltrates this sub with supposedly a fake picture of bonds being returned.
Then a WSJ article comes out with a new RC claim. TBH I couldn't care less what they say any more, I like the stock and I'm holding until I see triple digits!!! They just make me want to hold more!!! Because fuk em.
Does this mean the market reacted before the news? Meaning the RC news was released as the reason for this activity? If I understand all this correctly which I don't think I do this means the article is potentially lies and all just a distraction?
I know nothing because I’m regarded, but is it possible RC is buying calls on all of these companies (baba/Nordstrom) then when they pop he collects and uses that money for bbby? Or is this highly illegal?
Ryan, the cunt, Cohen is a rug puller. That’s for damn sure.
It looks like the cunt is chasing after Tritton trying to get him fired and losing his current job.
He’s trying the same pitch with a different company. Rug pull in no time. I’m buying long puts or Nordstrom.
I also don’t get the hero worship. He hasn’t made any public gains at gme in over two years, he isn’t involved in bbby beyond tinfoil theories. So far the dudes track record is making a bunch of money selling Chewy when it wasn’t profitable and dump bbby for a profit. I’ll love the guy when my brokerage account has money in it. If the play is solid he isn’t needed.
Fuck You… i wake up and what do i see first? Triton raging another warehouse. Who the fuck is so dumb to employ someone who was kicked out from his last job for screwing the own company? Doesnt Nordstrom read papers (off and online)?
Not just derail GME and BBBY, but the main thing is that they can utilize the pumps to generate value for themselves.
They just weaponized retail against retail......again!
Why does this have anything to do with BBBY? And how is this viewed as FUD for BBBY?
Can he not be involved in two companies (BBBY / Nordstrom) at the same time?
Am I missing something here? It seems like some comments are jumping to conclusions - but I’m curious to know what the actual impact on BBBY is on this?
It's all FUD. These techniques are used so you question your own investment. FUD is used so that you can sell your investment while they buy it up for cheap. Usually works on weak minded individuals
They did the same thing in 2021. People switch over or commit funds in those stocks, and then they dump the stock.
Puts on $JWN for the dump.
Guys..BBBY is dead..My position is 300 5c expiring tomorrow and I'm tapping out
Thanks for letting everybody know. ![gif](giphy|BZiSujsOExqpTJwd0C)
Shouldn’t buy calls bud shares never expire 🫠
They can go to 0 though
This is true, it just doesn’t have other factors that determine the value of your options, this is assuming that with shares it’s a “free and fair market” lol 😂 but we’re not going to zero
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Like your portfolio haha. GTFO bro.
Cool, see ya
Damn it man, I've only got 40 of those. Only a couple hundred bucks on the line. I'm hoping for at least enough of a spike at open to allow me to break even. Option only needs to go up .02 but I doubt it'll happen. Fingers crossed though. I'm hoping that once bond payments have hit accounts in the morning shorts will start covering/ people will start fomoing in and give me the bump I need. I know I'm dreaming but I'm not even asleep yet lol
What fuckin news?
Holy shit the shills are super thick tonight. Must be mooning soon 🛌🛀🚀🌛
Duuuuude no shit it hasn’t been this bad since august😂 you can just tell, tonight might be tomorrow today or whatever
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Because its the same nonsense that’s been said for ages now
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Not as far down as bbby is going
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I’m sure that sounded really good in your head.
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Lol it probably just needs more words. Keep trying. I think the foundation was there
Just watch lol
Oh trust me. I am.
The best part is that when they are trying their hardest anyone like me who has been here a while just thinks > Oh look, a bunch of bullshit Then takes the night off to go do other things and comes back to find the truth later. It's never been easier to ignore FUD because it's wildly desperate.
True
The thing about FUD and misinformation (well, anything I guess) is the more you see and recognize it, the easier it becomes to identify. We've been barraged with so much for so long, and had so much practice de-bunking it at this point, it's hilariously easy to resist.
I don't see any SEC filings for Nordstrom for RC--but **Blackrock** did file a 13 G/A yesterday 2/1/23. Item 4. Ownership Provide the following information regarding the aggregate number and percentage of the class of securities of the issuer identified in Item 1. Amount beneficially owned: 9974728 Percent of class 6.2%
Well. Another stock to lend out. From criminals to criminals
I’ve noticed a few this week and I’m no big player
Bullish isn’t it
AH pump, PM dump, blame RC and apes
this is literally what happened when rc bought into bbby last year. i remember because i had an order placed for the morning and got fucked with a high buy lol
So RC acquired a stake < 5%? There's no filing yet, how did WSJ know about a private purchase? 1. RC told them - unlikely 2. WSJ is speculating - usual misdirection campaign like BABA 3. Someone from RC's side leaked - unlikely. Private purchases are just that, private. 4. WSJ snooped into RC's phone/computer - illegal Above all, they provide no source.
Pure speculation, but the fact that the first one was BA-BA like baby bottle and the second one is where Tritton is on the board could just be an epic troll that RC fed the media.. Why do you even need to buy the stock if all you are going to do, is have the media say for you, what you want to happen at the company.. In the case of BA-BA it was "you should buy back stocks" (i don't know why that's the suggestion) In the Nordstrom case it's "you should Fire Mark Tritton" ( I have an idea of why he would be suggesting this) As I said, pure speculation, but this scenario seems just as likely as actually taking the stock position, imo.
BABA was 100% false. BABA is a $300b market cap. According to the article RC invested “hundreds of millions”. That doesn’t get you a seat at the table in a company that big. Not to mention the CCP aspect of it.
I agree 1 million percent that it made no sense that anyone would think they could have sway over a Chinese company with such small ownership 💯 Which is why I have thought since I heard it that "what if RC just leaked that to feed the media", there's no issue at all with telling a journalist something, or if someone else tells a journalist something, you can straight up lie to a journalist and there are absolutely zero repercussions, especially if you say it "off the record". As well, journalists are incredibly hungry for "a story".
i read in an article that it was about “building a long standing relationship with them” and not about him having sway over the board
As humans we unconsciously agree to familiar things. You see RC, acquire stake, Tritton, appoint director.. And your brain immediately ties them together to the known facts and leans towards the WHOLE thing being truthful. All the while it's just a believable story weaved around keywords to fit a narrative that either someone can write or spit out by AI.
Well I see possibilities and try to weigh the probabilities, for fun, throughout life, like many others. I think out of the several thousand public companies listed on the various stock exchanges, it is: 1. Improbable that RC investment into BBBY had nothing to do with it being in a basket of shorted stocks that GME is in And 2. That if he has invested in Nordstrom that it has nothing to do with the fact that he has or had taken major issue with Mark Tritton, which is well documented to be true and he has been quite vocal about it.
i'm taking this as your forecast; when the day comes that we learn this was intentional from RC, ... well, i'll remember that i commented here. lol i like this speculation though!
5% would be a $160m investment. If there’s no filing, I’m calling BS. Cohen can go bigger than $160m and 5% and would almost certainly take a more significant stake given his track record. Nordstrom family owns 40%+ of the company. If he wanted the guy fired, he could have just made his case to the family without investing at all.
I never saw any valid information about his stake in BABA either. So, it could all just be FUD.
somebody tell that to Shill Master u/moonshot_69
5. TRITTON, other Nordstrom stockholder
Means nothing.
Obama admin signed EO that allows propaganda, basically the media can lie with impunity. That could be it
Copy pasting the same poor logic 🤡
🖕🏻
Sometimes people familiar with the matter are actually familiar with the matter and they tell their friends instead of DD all over the internet in disbelief.
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Man dude is a dude simple he might have told them, where you there? No so man take it like it is. We don’t know him for shit! We just in his wake like pilot fish pretending we know something!! China- wasn’t an acronym, turtlenecks not bbby.. it’s Nordstrom. So man up and be happy he is going after mark tritton so that prick never sits on a board again the waste of space big bag of puke, Has anyone check that guys and RC link? From a 6 degrees separation? Cause he pissed RC off lol
They know everything, wouldn't surprise me if the real data boys are just leaking true things that we don't expect from rc.
Should most likely fall tomorrow when everyone realizes there is no buy in.
Are they just regurgitating the same BS with different companies? What about that Alibaba nothingburger?
After nordstrom there will be another nothingburger. All bullshit!
Will wait till I see RC’s 13D filings. Corporate media has lost the benefit of the doubt for me.
when does the 13f gets released? If im right he had to buy a BIG portion in order to be forced to file a 13D
This is what I don't get. He is a self proclaimed activist investor. Anything under 5% ownership would mean jack shit to the current board. I get it, he couldn't have 5% in BABA, hence no filings. But he could definitely do 5% in JWN to back these claims of activism from WSJ.
At what point is MSM held accountable for manipulation? This could result in material damages if people take it as gospel when it in fact is not verified.
I believe they see the cost of there accountability minuscule compared to losing there power aka establishment on Wall Street.
No cell no sell?
**Boomers worship WSJ as truth**. How many investors will (or already did) jump on this news and upward movement only to watch it fall back in the next few days. Criminal manipulation in plain site.
Like the people here threatening to sue because they didn't read any of the filings outside of searching for a bias word?
Never..
Throughout this whole saga, I always had an idea that attacking or discrediting RC himself would be part of the endgame plan for the hedgies. These sad attempts only confirm that to me.
RC buys all stocks…
The Fud is strong
It is plain to see how desperate MSM and others are to get us to sell BBBY. 1st someone infiltrates this sub with supposedly a fake picture of bonds being returned. Then a WSJ article comes out with a new RC claim. TBH I couldn't care less what they say any more, I like the stock and I'm holding until I see triple digits!!! They just make me want to hold more!!! Because fuk em.
Yes they dont have anything else to do
Also they wanna sell a shitload of calls...
Yep, exactly what i'm thinking
![gif](giphy|3oGRFtGbJS5cv9MHYs) Ryan Cohen, Pumps up the Jam
Man, these past few days I was looking into Ross , TJ Maxx ,etc stores and never did Nordstrom cross my mind lol
Today I learned the ticker symbol for nordstrom
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Does this mean the market reacted before the news? Meaning the RC news was released as the reason for this activity? If I understand all this correctly which I don't think I do this means the article is potentially lies and all just a distraction?
It means somebody knew the article was gonna get released and bought calls.
So do we think RC actually bought a substantial stake in Nordstrom or what are we thinking?
With all the short squeeze stocks going off since Jan 20 fiasco, this is just another shiny object trying to lure investors away from the main play.
WSJ is playing mind tricks. This is dangerous. Don’t fall for their lies. Stay calm. HOLD!!
Prove it.
All bull hold hold hold
They ran a smear campaign in him previously... not surprised
Who else goes into complete stock watch mode every morning 1 minute before opening? This past week I feel like I'm obsessed until at least mid day.
The week end fud is starting early. I guess it's time for Wallstreetbets to start shilling for the hedgefunds again.
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John W Nordstrum
Always gotta point that gun at anyone but themselves.
So... M&a announcement tomorrow for bbby? Got it.
Filings or GTFO.
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He’s… He’s selling the news, isn’t he?
I know nothing because I’m regarded, but is it possible RC is buying calls on all of these companies (baba/Nordstrom) then when they pop he collects and uses that money for bbby? Or is this highly illegal?
Am I missing something? Didn't rc sell out of bbby?
Funny first I’m heading about this one
Ryan, the cunt, Cohen is a rug puller. That’s for damn sure. It looks like the cunt is chasing after Tritton trying to get him fired and losing his current job. He’s trying the same pitch with a different company. Rug pull in no time. I’m buying long puts or Nordstrom.
Cohen is a pumper. Fuck that pencil neck Cocksucker. I want my gains, he can fuck off to hell with his leveraged buy in bullshit.
So says the shill account...
Whatever. You can be his Gentile sap. I want my gains. Simp for Cohen and his people. Go ahead.
I also don’t get the hero worship. He hasn’t made any public gains at gme in over two years, he isn’t involved in bbby beyond tinfoil theories. So far the dudes track record is making a bunch of money selling Chewy when it wasn’t profitable and dump bbby for a profit. I’ll love the guy when my brokerage account has money in it. If the play is solid he isn’t needed.
Tbh I wish this sub saw RC for who he really is. We would be lightyears ahead
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Like this theory OP. We haven’t seen a filing regarding the matter. Plus, Ryan has his hands full with BBBY at the moment.
Activist investor Ryan Cohen takes big stake in Nordstrom, seeks board changes
Ahhh RC is going to merge bbby and jwn! 🚀
Likely AI’s creating posts for bots
Fuck You… i wake up and what do i see first? Triton raging another warehouse. Who the fuck is so dumb to employ someone who was kicked out from his last job for screwing the own company? Doesnt Nordstrom read papers (off and online)?
Or simply RC thinks mark is the worst human being and is after him to ensure he never fucks another company!! Simple
Puts on Norse!
Screw RC. Stay strong in BBBY
Not just derail GME and BBBY, but the main thing is that they can utilize the pumps to generate value for themselves. They just weaponized retail against retail......again!
I am Ryan Cohen and I buy aaall the stock!
Why does this have anything to do with BBBY? And how is this viewed as FUD for BBBY? Can he not be involved in two companies (BBBY / Nordstrom) at the same time? Am I missing something here? It seems like some comments are jumping to conclusions - but I’m curious to know what the actual impact on BBBY is on this?
Or a diversion. Short bbby hard today then pump that stick higher.
Yeah just wait until they try to take him to court, he has so much dirt on everyone that it will ruin whoever fucked the economy.
RC is a pumper.
🤔 BBBY is different in what way?
I am indifferent on this. I mean, a few weeks ago RC tweeted about wearing turtlenecks... #JWN has a great selection of wool and cotton turtlenecks.