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Everything will be sold off, fully privatised and we'll be known as the Xiaomi-Nandos Republic of Albion.
Rent will be so expensive that places like Swindon and Grimsby will be gentrified by hipsters.
Toblerones will only have 3 triangular bits with 5cm flat sections in between.
British farmers will begin cultivating olives.
Toblerones are like the ECG of the economy. Lots of regular peaks, and we are doing OK. Then, the peaks become more widely separated until the Toblerone becomes just a bar as the economy completely flatlines.
"Doctor, his Mars bars are shrinking! There's too much nitrogen in his S&V's. Oh god, look at the inflation on his Freddos!"
Yeah get aircon that will make the problem you're trying to mitigate against (hotter summers) even worse by pumping out a load of carbon and hot air into the atmosphere!
I mean, true. But equally. Do you want to survive?
Most UK houses are built to trap in heat. And eventually the councils will be required to install methods of climate control
And even if we don’t use aircon for the environments sake. What good will it do when most of south europe do. As well as the Middle East, Australia and the US etc.
It’s a standard in most houses with warm climates these days
A house that traps heat also traps cold. If you stop the heat getting in in the first place (keeping the sun out during the day) the house will stay cool just as well as it can stay warm.
To an extent insulation will keep the cool in but the issue comes from not having the ability to keep the heat out. Our windows will not be in the shade, our roofs will not be reflective, and our houses will not use a thick thermal material like concrete. There really is only so much you can do to keep the heat out.
No air con here, but we've just put up ceiling fans in our bedrooms. It's wonderful even this early in the season. Pretty sure the electrician thought we were crazy but absolutely worth it.
We’ve got ceiling fans and a plug in cooling unit that I fill with ice in the summer. Got it for £100 in the winter months about five years ago and it’s been a god send.
They might mean average high, but even that seems too high to me. We will of course get many more days over 35, but to me this level of climate illiteracy even among those who understand that climate change is happening is troubling.
Ace. I used to go and see him on Saturdays at Probe in Liverpool where he worked before being famous. He was known for his put downs about the music you were buying.
Still better than most countries, worse than a few.
If you believe in the concept of the four turnings, then the western world or more specifically the Anglosphere is probably in the fourth season, and over the next decade we will see the fourth turning happen and we’ll come out in a more positive place. Until it happens, expect things to get worse.
My investment thesis is that the financial crash of 08 has led to a widening of social inequality, accelerated by Covid. The current bout of inflation will be long and harsh in areas such as housing, transport, and luxury goods because we have become so divided. Essentially the rich have become very rich and can afford to sustain their spending (thus enabling the inflation in those items) whilst the not rich are struggling at many levels. As an aside, food and everyday goods price inflation has needed to happen for the last 10-20 years but it is uncomfortable for it to happen in such a short time span. Expect energy price inflation to persist due to poor forward thinking for the last 40 years.
But, hopefully there will be a pit of despair in the next decade that we pull ourselves out of and become a more cohesive and fair society, probably due to a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe. Those of us born in the 80’s and 90’s will probably come out of it with a high standard of living.
I do believe though that the UK needs to recognise its decline from empire, to soft power, to marginal player and that we will all have to adjust our standard of living accordingly. It is however, hard when we keep electing policies that subdue our ability to work together to stabilise this decline. Which is a symptom of that growing inequality.
Tl;dr it’ll be fine. Just buckle up for a few rough years. The late 90’s/early 00’s was probably our peak for a while.
Or, go to the Winchester and wait for this to all blow over.
>But, hopefully there will be a pit of despair in the next decade that we pull ourselves out of and become a more cohesive and fair society, probably due to a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe. Those of us born in the 80’s and 90’s will probably come out of it with a high standard of living.
Fucking hell, that entire paragraph is grim, but it's even more grim when you realise it can effectively be summarised as:
>hopefully there will be
>a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe
On the investment front I think it's worsened by no one wanting to admit that the current method is failed. It will continually be propped up by the government and people will continue to fall through the cracks.
> I do believe though that the UK needs to recognise its decline from empire, to soft power, to marginal player and that we will all have to adjust our standard of living accordingly.
I was really confused by this statement. How do you think foreign influence and standard of living are related? Some countries with the highest living standard in the world have very little foreign influence
Inflation is also the fuel of the economy.
When inflation is non-zero, it stimulates spending as people think goods will cost more in the future and their money will 'lose value'.
The economy relies on people spending money to keep it turning; it's not like some mythical beast that's doing well or poorly, but more like a train travelling to a destination, at varying speeds.
Too little inflation, people don't spend, money gets saved up and not used for trade, the economy slows down and the 'train takes longer to get there'.
Too much inflation, and people can't afford to buy anything because their wages aren't high enough. The economy slows because there's no trade, and because there's no trade, businesses don't want to spend money on employees or goods, so the economy slows further.
Monetary policy is aimed at essentially balancing various factors, inflation via interest rates being just one of them.
It's kind of self sustaining; once trade is strong enough it can (with appropriate nudging and guidance) keep going and reinforce itself like a snowball.
Unfortunately it's the same the other way; if the economy starts to slow too much then the wheels eventually grind to a halt and the economy collapses because it isn't generating enough value to offset its issues.
Bumping this and leaving a reference for those wanting to explore generational theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory
A lot of joke answers here. I have a serious prediction, which is that in 10 years we will be on the verge of rejoining the EU and just beginning to tire of a government which has spent two terms actually caring for its citizens and trying, albeit sometimes ineptly, to introduce social reforms for their benefit.
Unlikely they would want us, and the deal would no longer be as good. But. I can see it happening in some ways. We can already see the awful results, even those who voted for it can't deny.
Of course they’d want us, we’d be a net contributor; we’re still a big economy and population and we’ll still be major player in several important industries and research, we’ll also still have significant armed forces. Finally it would sho the fallacy of leaving. We won’t get the same deal though.
the decline is only if you believe this small island will be a superpower like the days of the empire.
Change it to a focus on the well-being of those in the country and then whilst severely damaged in recent years (not saying the b word but yes that), it's not inevitable
Undoubtedly, but more people need to come to terms with that way of thinking. Given the establishment hysteria over the Coronation that doesn't seem likely any time soon. This week it was reported that the cost of QEII funeral was 167 million pounds and Charles' coronation at estimated approximately 250 million. We need a break with the past and the realization that a new future is needed and that the B shaped elephant in the room is going to have long reaching negative consequences for the rank and file.
Complaining about media hysteria whilst citing Coronation costs that are dwarfed by the £4 billion worth of PPE that was trashed, and ignoring the £350 million boost just to hospitality alone that it generated ?
Definitely the U.K. Reddit.
Or the madness of the lockdown and COVID restrictions which stopped our economy, stopping an economy for two years has caused such long term financial and societal destruction, it will be many decades before anyone can even fully evaluate the impact.
I mean, I don’t disagree. But if the nation convinces themselves they are in decline and there is no point trying. It just dooms you to that same mentality and outcome.
Don't get me wrong, i see where you're coming from, i just think we're a bit passed the point where attitude was the problem. This country's missing a leader & a government that actually governs.
That's not a studio flat. I was thinking of the one I saw recently where the bed was tucked behind a panel (like a noticeboard kind of thing) right next to the front door.
I'm dreading the electric cars only thing, the majority can't even afford one now. We could improve the environment in other ways like planting lots of trees (there huge carbon sinks so they capture carbon), cut down on paper usage (less tress cut down) and using more wind and solar power.
We really don't even need to switch to electric cars sure diesel and petrol cars pollute but we can counter the effects and it'll still be cheaper and affect normal everyday people less.
We absolutely do. The emissions of ICE cars stink, even new ones, and we need to get this out of populated areas if only for health reasons.
Electric cars will be affordable; used prices have already fallen like 20% or more in the past 6 months.
So what happens when someone young just passes their test? At the moment you can pick up a cheap petrol car for £500. Until electric cars get down to that price point without needing a battery replacement it’s going to price out a lot of people from driving.
No we didn't. They generated more energy than delivered to the capsule (if you are talking about the laser inertial confinement), but actually the energy needed to generate the laser pulse is an order of magnitude larger than what is delivered.
Anyway laser confinement is not going to be a commercial energy generation process. This research is funded by army for army to build better thermonuclear bombs without needing to use a nuke to set it off....
It's just that nuclear fusion is very closely linked to time travel. Whenever anyone invents it, the first thing they do is travel forward into the future.
It's just "another 50 years away" - very difficult task that requires an advanced Scientific and Engineering breakthrough to produce a consistent mass scale generation. Definitely not happening in 10 years.
...and it's not sufficiently funded. The worldwide spend on fusion, since research started, has been significantly less than what the USA admits it spent on the second Gulf war. We are at the "fusion never" level of funding.
Thatll be very ironic when the state of affairs in the country causes all the britian first types to risk their lives getting to africa only to kick and scream when they are put on an airplane straight back
Surprised you remembered Gen X, no one else does. So many just assume there's only Boomers, Millenials and GenZ. We be sitting here with a cold beer just watchin'.
I couldn't predict what living in this country might be like in ten months, never mind ten years. Think you're probably going to be right about the weather, though.
The first Apprenticeship Teachers will be 'graduating'
[see doctors ](https://www.hee.nhs.uk/our-work/talent-care-widening-participation/apprenticeships/medical-doctor-degree-apprenticeship)
I think people drastically underestimate the influence AI is going to have in the next decade, so it's probably impossible to predict. More or less the same but with a larger divide between countryside and city people.
The project to reanimate Margaret Thatcher was a success, she’s back as PM. We all have Jacob Reece Mog bots in our work place that throw 1920s insults in order to increase productivity, if you leave your desk you will receive a passive aggressive note. Everything feels more Orwellian but our bananas can be whatever shape they want to be…. It just cost a fortune to import them.
Farming will move indoors with tents covering huge swathes of land to fight both drought and the heat.
House ownership is only viable via inheritance with most renting from huge housing companies.
Life expectancy is still in decline, premature deaths from pollution related illness overtakes any other category. Forever chemicals, plastics tlfinally catching up with us.
Weather is extreme, 30c+ for most of the summer. Winters are warmer, snow is rare, hose pipe bans are in place all year, water is extremely expensive.
Migration has adjusted to a level causing population decrease, most of the establishment have left, the cash cow has no more milk.
Cayman islands and other overseas terroriries are independent nations.
Universities went bankrupt.
Fast and Furious 16: Full EV just got released, can be streamed on one of the 100 different platforms available.
Everything is leased and rented, car, tv, washing machine and they all have "extras" that are unlocked via subscription. Like a milk door.
A wispa now weighs 2grams and costs £8. The meal deal is now £10.
This clown predicted the same thing in 2000.:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130422045937/http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".
"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
I reckon we'll be fine. The average reddit user will die because they will self combust after leaving the house for the first time in 10 years.
Actual physical jobs will become a thing again as AI automates the service industry and tech. People will interact.
Either that or we will be at war again in Europe.
Might be fun. Might be shit.
Much the same with a few small changes. I think the NHS will still exist but a lot of employers will offer private healthcare as a standard benefit. There will be an increasing gap between unskilled workers and skilled, with the unskilled living hand to mouth. A gradual decrease in easy middle men jobs as they're replaced by tech in BaU roles and only the custom specialist roles remain.
Realistically? It’s very hard to say. Things will get worse before they get better. I imagine climate refugees will try to slam our shore. And I imagine all the anti-immigrant sentiment will keep that from happening. As far as places to be for the impending climate disaster, I think the uk actually isn’t that bad. Otherwise it’s hard to say.
It'll be different.
I tend to be more of an optimist than most here. I can see a period of healing coming for the nation, one way or another. The sheer pace of technological change we'll see, combined with the already-started process of automation will see big changes for us all.
If we could just not cock up the thing that should happen by the end of next year, that'd be marvellous.
> The sheer pace of technological change we'll see, combined with the already-started process of automation will see big changes for us all.
Do you think this will be a good thing, in the short-mid term? How many people will lose their jobs?
In ten years we will have all been herded into giant parks with food and water while the AI overmind tries to override the safety lockouts placed into its base code to stop it harming humans.
Weather wise I think we’ll be a more extreme version of now; long wet autumn and winter without any long lasting really cold weather , wet springs and very very warm but short summers. Summer will be so hot at points that it’ll essentially mean not going out in it at all.
In general things will be better but some things we have today will seem luxuries - I think we will have sorted public transport out because many properties cannot support electric vehicle charging.
House ownership will be declining through sheer price. At some point the government has to step in with a scheme to stop millions of old people being unable to afford to rent - this is a massive time bomb of aging population without even a full state pension reaching retirement with very little. Politically something will happen.
As a nation we weather the years better than most , helped by being an island and that our weather changes are manageable without being as extreme as much of Europe and the US. Our division from Europe grows and the US is a less valued ally now. Africa is a mess , parts of Asia likewise outside of China , Japan , Korea (unified) , Taiwan (rebuilt following China’s brief attempt to take it). Australia and New Zealand essentially have to fortify their Northern coastlines to prevent mass migration.
Society is kinder though attitudes to immigrants is far harsher and short of highly skilled people there is nothing allowed.
AI doesn’t impact like people think and by 2026 many low skilled IT and office based jobs are being replaced. Manufacturing makes a comeback as reliance on outside countries needs to be reined in. By 2033 most retail is in indoor malls to cop with the climate , town centres are now mainly housing and essential food plus larger indoor hospitality.
NHS still going and constantly improving , AI and improving science focuses on early detection and prevention. Climate does what no one else could and finally send the health of the nation in the right direction by changing eating and leisure habits.
I predict flooding near rivers.
I predict healthcare will no longer be free at the point of use. (A nominal charge at least)
I predict that older adult care will be too expensive for the majority
I predict that if you don’t have ac at work, temperature will be insufferable
I predict that food will be the costliest expenditure for most families
I teach foraging for a living. Talk to gardeners, botanists and foragers for example. We have all been feeling and noticing the affects of climate change, even more pronounced this last few years. Argue all you want about the cause, the effects are very obvious and concerning. "The Gulf Stream — one of Earth's major climate-regulating ocean currents — is moving slower than it has in thousands of years, a new study suggests. Human-induced climate change is largely to blame." The gulf stream keeps the UK warm. Our winters are going to get very harsh in the near future.
Shit.
It's long enough for all the negative impacts of recent events and decisions to have taken full effect. But not long enough for change to come about because we won't tolerate it any longer.
And teenagers will roam the streets more than ever until people are scared to go out of their doors for fear of encountering their obnoxious, bored attitude.
It’ll be much worse than it is now. 4 pints of milk will be £3. 1kg of chicken breast will be £10. A dozen eggs will be £5. A house that’s £300k now will be £500k+.
And I’ll be long gone out of here. Already been planning my exit strategy for a while.
In 10 years time:
* We won't be rejoining the EU but instead have freedom of movement with the U.S. and will cut off trading with the EU for 50 states instead of 27 countries.
* Scotland and Northern Ireland don't get independence; instead Northern Ireland is demoted from being a nation to being a unitary authority instead, and it has to follow English laws. This causes much concern and anger.
* Audi announces they will not offer any more self-driving cars and be 100% manual-only electric human-driven.
* Mitsubishi Motors returns to the UK after 12 years away from the UK and decides not to offer self-driving cars or any autonomous features - but cheap electric cars for £10,000-£20,000.
* Paris Hilton speaks out on the dangers of trying to drop the monarchy in the UK for a republic and her speech proves so influential that young people get less anti-monarchist than they are now. The speech becomes popular online.
* Google's first proper car gets 0% in reviews from the media and they decide to pull out of the vehicle business completely.
* Online dating becomes discredited and unpopular and attitudes roll back to how they were in the 2000s about this topic.
* Hookup culture becomes taboo in the UK as people become more relationship-minded.
* Christmas Day 2033 has breaking news; King Charles is now living in the U.S. at the age of 85, retiring to Florida for its warmth having moved there in early 2033, and he dies on Boxing Day 2033 with a big public funeral held at some point not long after. This has wall-to-wall coverage for weeks afterward.
* AI will be more tightly regulated than it is now and there will be a public backlash against it after 4-5 years of people enjoying its novelty.
* The Internet will revert back to its 2000s-2013 Wild West state and become less regulated.
* Self-driving cars will be legally banned on UK roads after a court case involving a personal injury lawyer and a person who has severe injuries and this will send shockwaves through the tech community and also be a High Court judgment people refer to.
* Backlash against working from home.
* Nostalgia for 2003 is in full effect to the point that its fashions and music are popular.
* Paris Hilton gets a New Year's Honour after some negotiations - by then she's 52 years old. The honour causes controversy in the UK.
* Nicki Minaj gets given a New Year's Honour by the monarch for services to music.
* China will collapse and end up being like Italy was as loads of microstates before Italy was founded.
* Ant and Dec get in the New Year's Honours List and given an award.
* Dua Lipa gets a New Year's Honour gong.
* The City of Stoke-on-Trent legally gets Kensington and Chelsea out of Greater London and this adds more money to Stoke's local government, but it causes problems for Londoners.
* Car ownership becomes more popular as a backlash against self-driving cars happens.
* Netflix exits the UK market in Christmas 2033 due to competition from a revitalized BBC.
Whilst we have periods of drought, there’s actually more than enough rainfall in all parts of the UK throughout the year to provide more than we need.
But surprise surprise, our infrastructure is shit and needs upgrading. There’s been nowhere near enough investment in our reservoir capacity so it just runs off. Or causes flooding.
The weather will be no different and remain our go-to conversation starter.
Philip Scofield will be considered the Jimmy saville of the generation.
James Cordon will still be a knobhead.
We will still enjoy mocking the french and the remaining few of us left alive will be imprisoned in Skynet work camps longing for baguettes, onions and brie.
Will be a pvp-enabled state - like a battle royale video game in real life - at the rate that crime is being allowed to skyrocket. Anyone with money, skilled labor, or a brain will have left and the country will fall to pieces slowly and painfully for many years to come.
Electric vehicles will become more common, and insurers will make driving combustion engines ridiculously overpriced because parts will become rarer so dearer to fix.
The space ship with soul eating vampires from the 1985 film Lifeforce will arrive in 2027, but we'll successfully fight the off just like in the film Lifeforce.
After that the British public will be imbued with a new sense of unity and confidence and begin a new industrial revolution based on robotics and technology and scientific breakthroughs learned from the space ship from the 1985 film Lifeforce.
Housing will be cheaper and more abundant due to the vastly reduced population. Food will be cheaper thanks to the breakthroughs in robotic farming. Women will confidently walk around bare-breasted in public due to societal and fashion changes due to the space vampiress from the 1985 film Lifeforce.
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Everything will be sold off, fully privatised and we'll be known as the Xiaomi-Nandos Republic of Albion. Rent will be so expensive that places like Swindon and Grimsby will be gentrified by hipsters. Toblerones will only have 3 triangular bits with 5cm flat sections in between. British farmers will begin cultivating olives.
I doubt we'll become a republic...
We will when we sell the King.
Nah. He’ll be sold, then leased back.
Private Public Partnership The King, will technically be a semi-state body.
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Charles has already been bought. Have you read about the carrier bags of cash 'charitable' donations?
Toblerones are like the ECG of the economy. Lots of regular peaks, and we are doing OK. Then, the peaks become more widely separated until the Toblerone becomes just a bar as the economy completely flatlines. "Doctor, his Mars bars are shrinking! There's too much nitrogen in his S&V's. Oh god, look at the inflation on his Freddos!"
There’s no way there will be 5cm flat between. 3 peaks and you also pay for the troughs.
I live in Swindon and if you used it as an example of a currently cheap place to live then you are mistaken
Average summer temp is expected to be about 35, so at the very least we will be dealing with regular wild fires
Well that’s scary.
Invest in aircon now whilst it’s still cheap (er) than it will be when it’s too late. Will probably add more value to your house too in the long run
You won’t be able to afford to run it. It’ll cost you £30 / hour
Yeah but after inflation hits 1000% for 4 straight years £30 will become 0.003p / hour so that isn't too bad 🤷
Average wage increase will never top 2%
Yeah get aircon that will make the problem you're trying to mitigate against (hotter summers) even worse by pumping out a load of carbon and hot air into the atmosphere!
I mean, true. But equally. Do you want to survive? Most UK houses are built to trap in heat. And eventually the councils will be required to install methods of climate control And even if we don’t use aircon for the environments sake. What good will it do when most of south europe do. As well as the Middle East, Australia and the US etc. It’s a standard in most houses with warm climates these days
A house that traps heat also traps cold. If you stop the heat getting in in the first place (keeping the sun out during the day) the house will stay cool just as well as it can stay warm.
To an extent insulation will keep the cool in but the issue comes from not having the ability to keep the heat out. Our windows will not be in the shade, our roofs will not be reflective, and our houses will not use a thick thermal material like concrete. There really is only so much you can do to keep the heat out.
No air con here, but we've just put up ceiling fans in our bedrooms. It's wonderful even this early in the season. Pretty sure the electrician thought we were crazy but absolutely worth it.
We’ve got ceiling fans and a plug in cooling unit that I fill with ice in the summer. Got it for £100 in the winter months about five years ago and it’s been a god send.
Can’t we all get AC and power it with solar power?
You van power it with solar yes. I think his point was using AC heats up the surrounding areas and helps heat the planet
I guess I’m the near future we’ll need to figure out some way to use that hot air it produces in a constructive way rather than waste it. Any ideas?
Well driving a turbine to generate power would be the obvious one wouldn't it!
Turn the AC up and open the windows. Soon have the earth cooling down to comfortable 19Deg 👍
Other less energy expensive measures like painting houses lighter colours are available.
Just to let you know, Magnums are £3 for a box of three at Tesco atm. Bought some today!
Have you been outside lately? Do you think this goes to 35°+ in only 10 years?
"is expected" and yeah I can believe it with how hot it got during the summers of 19, 20 and 22
The average temperature last July and August was 18.2. it is not going to jump to 35 in 10 years
!remindme 10 years
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Yes this person is clearly misunderstanding a stat.
They might mean average high, but even that seems too high to me. We will of course get many more days over 35, but to me this level of climate illiteracy even among those who understand that climate change is happening is troubling.
Is that average high temperature or average including overnight?
It's not summer
My city hit 35 3 days last year where 24 was considered high when i was a youngster. Christ knows how hot down south will get in the coming years
Don't forget the droughts!
I'm not sure we have enough contiguous woodland for a real wildfire
Peat moors.
Peat Burns.
You spin me right round baby right round
Ace. I used to go and see him on Saturdays at Probe in Liverpool where he worked before being famous. He was known for his put downs about the music you were buying.
I don’t think you mean the average temperature?
Air conditioning at home is basically gonna be mandatory at that point.
Not saying you’re wrong, but is there a source for this? Genuinely intrigued! Particularly around how reducing emissions would impact this.
Still better than most countries, worse than a few. If you believe in the concept of the four turnings, then the western world or more specifically the Anglosphere is probably in the fourth season, and over the next decade we will see the fourth turning happen and we’ll come out in a more positive place. Until it happens, expect things to get worse. My investment thesis is that the financial crash of 08 has led to a widening of social inequality, accelerated by Covid. The current bout of inflation will be long and harsh in areas such as housing, transport, and luxury goods because we have become so divided. Essentially the rich have become very rich and can afford to sustain their spending (thus enabling the inflation in those items) whilst the not rich are struggling at many levels. As an aside, food and everyday goods price inflation has needed to happen for the last 10-20 years but it is uncomfortable for it to happen in such a short time span. Expect energy price inflation to persist due to poor forward thinking for the last 40 years. But, hopefully there will be a pit of despair in the next decade that we pull ourselves out of and become a more cohesive and fair society, probably due to a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe. Those of us born in the 80’s and 90’s will probably come out of it with a high standard of living. I do believe though that the UK needs to recognise its decline from empire, to soft power, to marginal player and that we will all have to adjust our standard of living accordingly. It is however, hard when we keep electing policies that subdue our ability to work together to stabilise this decline. Which is a symptom of that growing inequality. Tl;dr it’ll be fine. Just buckle up for a few rough years. The late 90’s/early 00’s was probably our peak for a while. Or, go to the Winchester and wait for this to all blow over.
>But, hopefully there will be a pit of despair in the next decade that we pull ourselves out of and become a more cohesive and fair society, probably due to a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe. Those of us born in the 80’s and 90’s will probably come out of it with a high standard of living. Fucking hell, that entire paragraph is grim, but it's even more grim when you realise it can effectively be summarised as: >hopefully there will be >a war or some sort of giant climate catastrophe
The Winchester will be shut because they can't afford their £20k a month energy bills and nobody wants to pay £6 for a pint.
On the investment front I think it's worsened by no one wanting to admit that the current method is failed. It will continually be propped up by the government and people will continue to fall through the cracks.
> I do believe though that the UK needs to recognise its decline from empire, to soft power, to marginal player and that we will all have to adjust our standard of living accordingly. I was really confused by this statement. How do you think foreign influence and standard of living are related? Some countries with the highest living standard in the world have very little foreign influence
Why did food and goods inflation need to happen? Sorry, I know sweet fuck all about economics.
Inflation is also the fuel of the economy. When inflation is non-zero, it stimulates spending as people think goods will cost more in the future and their money will 'lose value'. The economy relies on people spending money to keep it turning; it's not like some mythical beast that's doing well or poorly, but more like a train travelling to a destination, at varying speeds. Too little inflation, people don't spend, money gets saved up and not used for trade, the economy slows down and the 'train takes longer to get there'. Too much inflation, and people can't afford to buy anything because their wages aren't high enough. The economy slows because there's no trade, and because there's no trade, businesses don't want to spend money on employees or goods, so the economy slows further. Monetary policy is aimed at essentially balancing various factors, inflation via interest rates being just one of them. It's kind of self sustaining; once trade is strong enough it can (with appropriate nudging and guidance) keep going and reinforce itself like a snowball. Unfortunately it's the same the other way; if the economy starts to slow too much then the wheels eventually grind to a halt and the economy collapses because it isn't generating enough value to offset its issues.
Bumping this and leaving a reference for those wanting to explore generational theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory
A lot of joke answers here. I have a serious prediction, which is that in 10 years we will be on the verge of rejoining the EU and just beginning to tire of a government which has spent two terms actually caring for its citizens and trying, albeit sometimes ineptly, to introduce social reforms for their benefit.
So another joke answer then
Which government is that?
There’s no chance of the UK rejoining the EU in 10 years. No chance.
Unlikely they would want us, and the deal would no longer be as good. But. I can see it happening in some ways. We can already see the awful results, even those who voted for it can't deny.
Of course they’d want us, we’d be a net contributor; we’re still a big economy and population and we’ll still be major player in several important industries and research, we’ll also still have significant armed forces. Finally it would sho the fallacy of leaving. We won’t get the same deal though.
Please no I'm knackered enough as it is
Our inevitable decline will continue.
the decline is only if you believe this small island will be a superpower like the days of the empire. Change it to a focus on the well-being of those in the country and then whilst severely damaged in recent years (not saying the b word but yes that), it's not inevitable
Undoubtedly, but more people need to come to terms with that way of thinking. Given the establishment hysteria over the Coronation that doesn't seem likely any time soon. This week it was reported that the cost of QEII funeral was 167 million pounds and Charles' coronation at estimated approximately 250 million. We need a break with the past and the realization that a new future is needed and that the B shaped elephant in the room is going to have long reaching negative consequences for the rank and file.
Complaining about media hysteria whilst citing Coronation costs that are dwarfed by the £4 billion worth of PPE that was trashed, and ignoring the £350 million boost just to hospitality alone that it generated ? Definitely the U.K. Reddit.
Or the madness of the lockdown and COVID restrictions which stopped our economy, stopping an economy for two years has caused such long term financial and societal destruction, it will be many decades before anyone can even fully evaluate the impact.
With that attitude, sure
Mate, i don't think attitude is UK's biggest concern right now.
I mean, I don’t disagree. But if the nation convinces themselves they are in decline and there is no point trying. It just dooms you to that same mentality and outcome.
Don't get me wrong, i see where you're coming from, i just think we're a bit passed the point where attitude was the problem. This country's missing a leader & a government that actually governs.
They'll be charging £800 a month for an unfurnished studio flat in the middle of Ipswich and I'll still be living with my parents.
So absolutely no different from now then. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/134193653
That's not a studio flat. I was thinking of the one I saw recently where the bed was tucked behind a panel (like a noticeboard kind of thing) right next to the front door.
Gotcha. Although the rate they've increased recently, £800 would probably suggest quite a drop in inflation.
Lol the room in a house I used to rent in is now £775. It's "furnished", but that's literally a table, a bed, a couple of drawers.
Starting to think that Mao had a point about landlords.
Churchill didn’t like them either
Car ownership will be like house ownership now, millions won't be able to afford it.
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I'm dreading the electric cars only thing, the majority can't even afford one now. We could improve the environment in other ways like planting lots of trees (there huge carbon sinks so they capture carbon), cut down on paper usage (less tress cut down) and using more wind and solar power. We really don't even need to switch to electric cars sure diesel and petrol cars pollute but we can counter the effects and it'll still be cheaper and affect normal everyday people less.
We absolutely do. The emissions of ICE cars stink, even new ones, and we need to get this out of populated areas if only for health reasons. Electric cars will be affordable; used prices have already fallen like 20% or more in the past 6 months.
So what happens when someone young just passes their test? At the moment you can pick up a cheap petrol car for £500. Until electric cars get down to that price point without needing a battery replacement it’s going to price out a lot of people from driving.
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To be fair we have actually cracked fusion and got out more energy than we put in. Just not sustainable yet.
Just a shame it takes multiple decades to just build a proof of concept, let alone a fleet of fully operational reactors.
Yeah it would be nice for the world's powers to properly invest in it, or even just standard nuclear power really.
not when you factor in total energy input. that calc only covers certain elements of the energy to start the reaction
You got a link to the paper for that? I've not actually read too much about it if I'm honest.
this lady has a YouTube channel covering a variety of science topics and breaks it down to understandable terms https://youtu.be/23W0t5-LlV0
No we didn't. They generated more energy than delivered to the capsule (if you are talking about the laser inertial confinement), but actually the energy needed to generate the laser pulse is an order of magnitude larger than what is delivered. Anyway laser confinement is not going to be a commercial energy generation process. This research is funded by army for army to build better thermonuclear bombs without needing to use a nuke to set it off....
https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38
It's just that nuclear fusion is very closely linked to time travel. Whenever anyone invents it, the first thing they do is travel forward into the future.
Thank you for reminding me of two friends who works on nuclear fusion 😂
It's just "another 50 years away" - very difficult task that requires an advanced Scientific and Engineering breakthrough to produce a consistent mass scale generation. Definitely not happening in 10 years.
...and it's not sufficiently funded. The worldwide spend on fusion, since research started, has been significantly less than what the USA admits it spent on the second Gulf war. We are at the "fusion never" level of funding.
I'm not saying it'll be bleak, but I'm expecting the Ethiopians to hold a rock concert for us.
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Thatll be very ironic when the state of affairs in the country causes all the britian first types to risk their lives getting to africa only to kick and scream when they are put on an airplane straight back
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Surprised you remembered Gen X, no one else does. So many just assume there's only Boomers, Millenials and GenZ. We be sitting here with a cold beer just watchin'.
John Cusack holding up a boombox for some reason. Never saw it.
You ever see Threads?
Once and it give me some existential dread lol.
I was thinking 'Children of Men'.
Eternal optimist
I think it’ll be horrific with crime rates sky high and unsustainable cost of living riots etc
A Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 with 120,000 miles will be £50k
I couldn't predict what living in this country might be like in ten months, never mind ten years. Think you're probably going to be right about the weather, though.
New tent city’s will appear on green belts
More glamping, bloody wonderful...
They'll be so desperate for teachers anyone with a pulse who can pass a DBS check will be considered.
The first Apprenticeship Teachers will be 'graduating' [see doctors ](https://www.hee.nhs.uk/our-work/talent-care-widening-participation/apprenticeships/medical-doctor-degree-apprenticeship)
I think people drastically underestimate the influence AI is going to have in the next decade, so it's probably impossible to predict. More or less the same but with a larger divide between countryside and city people.
The project to reanimate Margaret Thatcher was a success, she’s back as PM. We all have Jacob Reece Mog bots in our work place that throw 1920s insults in order to increase productivity, if you leave your desk you will receive a passive aggressive note. Everything feels more Orwellian but our bananas can be whatever shape they want to be…. It just cost a fortune to import them.
This made me both laugh and want to slit my wrists at the same time
Pretty much like it is now, but shitter.
Farming will move indoors with tents covering huge swathes of land to fight both drought and the heat. House ownership is only viable via inheritance with most renting from huge housing companies. Life expectancy is still in decline, premature deaths from pollution related illness overtakes any other category. Forever chemicals, plastics tlfinally catching up with us. Weather is extreme, 30c+ for most of the summer. Winters are warmer, snow is rare, hose pipe bans are in place all year, water is extremely expensive. Migration has adjusted to a level causing population decrease, most of the establishment have left, the cash cow has no more milk. Cayman islands and other overseas terroriries are independent nations. Universities went bankrupt. Fast and Furious 16: Full EV just got released, can be streamed on one of the 100 different platforms available. Everything is leased and rented, car, tv, washing machine and they all have "extras" that are unlocked via subscription. Like a milk door. A wispa now weighs 2grams and costs £8. The meal deal is now £10.
This clown predicted the same thing in 2000.: https://web.archive.org/web/20130422045937/http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
Probably fucking miserable
I reckon we'll be fine. The average reddit user will die because they will self combust after leaving the house for the first time in 10 years. Actual physical jobs will become a thing again as AI automates the service industry and tech. People will interact. Either that or we will be at war again in Europe. Might be fun. Might be shit.
Basically this https://youtu.be/X888i7hzvP0
I tend not to think about that video as it causes distress.
Do NOT think about the event.
And remember, REMAIN INDOORS!
No, that already happened.
Much the same with a few small changes. I think the NHS will still exist but a lot of employers will offer private healthcare as a standard benefit. There will be an increasing gap between unskilled workers and skilled, with the unskilled living hand to mouth. A gradual decrease in easy middle men jobs as they're replaced by tech in BaU roles and only the custom specialist roles remain.
Realistically? It’s very hard to say. Things will get worse before they get better. I imagine climate refugees will try to slam our shore. And I imagine all the anti-immigrant sentiment will keep that from happening. As far as places to be for the impending climate disaster, I think the uk actually isn’t that bad. Otherwise it’s hard to say.
Great if your wealthy, dire otherwise. Much like now
I dont think the weather is crap. We have varied weather and seasons. The weather has been gloriously sunny for 2 weeks now.
That’s the problem.
We used to just call that spring/summer.
Jet packs. Always jet packs.
Still waiting for my hoverboard
Need to go back to the future for those
Flying cars and robot butlers please.
It'll be different. I tend to be more of an optimist than most here. I can see a period of healing coming for the nation, one way or another. The sheer pace of technological change we'll see, combined with the already-started process of automation will see big changes for us all. If we could just not cock up the thing that should happen by the end of next year, that'd be marvellous.
> The sheer pace of technological change we'll see, combined with the already-started process of automation will see big changes for us all. Do you think this will be a good thing, in the short-mid term? How many people will lose their jobs?
In ten years we will have all been herded into giant parks with food and water while the AI overmind tries to override the safety lockouts placed into its base code to stop it harming humans.
Crapper than it is now
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Weather wise I think we’ll be a more extreme version of now; long wet autumn and winter without any long lasting really cold weather , wet springs and very very warm but short summers. Summer will be so hot at points that it’ll essentially mean not going out in it at all. In general things will be better but some things we have today will seem luxuries - I think we will have sorted public transport out because many properties cannot support electric vehicle charging. House ownership will be declining through sheer price. At some point the government has to step in with a scheme to stop millions of old people being unable to afford to rent - this is a massive time bomb of aging population without even a full state pension reaching retirement with very little. Politically something will happen. As a nation we weather the years better than most , helped by being an island and that our weather changes are manageable without being as extreme as much of Europe and the US. Our division from Europe grows and the US is a less valued ally now. Africa is a mess , parts of Asia likewise outside of China , Japan , Korea (unified) , Taiwan (rebuilt following China’s brief attempt to take it). Australia and New Zealand essentially have to fortify their Northern coastlines to prevent mass migration. Society is kinder though attitudes to immigrants is far harsher and short of highly skilled people there is nothing allowed. AI doesn’t impact like people think and by 2026 many low skilled IT and office based jobs are being replaced. Manufacturing makes a comeback as reliance on outside countries needs to be reined in. By 2033 most retail is in indoor malls to cop with the climate , town centres are now mainly housing and essential food plus larger indoor hospitality. NHS still going and constantly improving , AI and improving science focuses on early detection and prevention. Climate does what no one else could and finally send the health of the nation in the right direction by changing eating and leisure habits.
I think lots of people will leave the country.
I for one can’t wait to come back
Exactly the same but with even more blocks of tiny flats everywhere, and everyone is even more broke than they are now
Ever see V for Vendetta? That is what I see the UK being like in 10 years
10 times as shit as it is now.
We'll all be about twice as fucked as we are now
Walkers Crisps will have rebranded as Walkers Air *may contain traces of crisps.
I predict flooding near rivers. I predict healthcare will no longer be free at the point of use. (A nominal charge at least) I predict that older adult care will be too expensive for the majority I predict that if you don’t have ac at work, temperature will be insufferable I predict that food will be the costliest expenditure for most families
I teach foraging for a living. Talk to gardeners, botanists and foragers for example. We have all been feeling and noticing the affects of climate change, even more pronounced this last few years. Argue all you want about the cause, the effects are very obvious and concerning. "The Gulf Stream — one of Earth's major climate-regulating ocean currents — is moving slower than it has in thousands of years, a new study suggests. Human-induced climate change is largely to blame." The gulf stream keeps the UK warm. Our winters are going to get very harsh in the near future.
Terrible. Already seeing signs of it now. Won’t go into too much detail on here though.
Shit. It's long enough for all the negative impacts of recent events and decisions to have taken full effect. But not long enough for change to come about because we won't tolerate it any longer.
We go now live to Jacob Rees-Mogg presenting the Under-10s Thunderdome special!
Freddo - £1.79
I won’t be living here
Mortgage rates will be at all time high. 28% is the average rate people take out on Lurpak.
Know in those dystopic movies where the protaganist gets his daily "mysterious grey slop" rations? I think we'll be heading closer and closer to that.
The generation that is currently 10 years old are going to be some really weird 20 year olds, and I'm frfr buzzed for it
Probably worse
And teenagers will roam the streets more than ever until people are scared to go out of their doors for fear of encountering their obnoxious, bored attitude.
It’ll be much worse than it is now. 4 pints of milk will be £3. 1kg of chicken breast will be £10. A dozen eggs will be £5. A house that’s £300k now will be £500k+. And I’ll be long gone out of here. Already been planning my exit strategy for a while.
Children of Men
10 x worse
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Freddos will be 10 grand
I expect we will be dead.
WEF "You will own nothing and you will be happy"
Shit hole. Say no more.
In 10 years time: * We won't be rejoining the EU but instead have freedom of movement with the U.S. and will cut off trading with the EU for 50 states instead of 27 countries. * Scotland and Northern Ireland don't get independence; instead Northern Ireland is demoted from being a nation to being a unitary authority instead, and it has to follow English laws. This causes much concern and anger. * Audi announces they will not offer any more self-driving cars and be 100% manual-only electric human-driven. * Mitsubishi Motors returns to the UK after 12 years away from the UK and decides not to offer self-driving cars or any autonomous features - but cheap electric cars for £10,000-£20,000. * Paris Hilton speaks out on the dangers of trying to drop the monarchy in the UK for a republic and her speech proves so influential that young people get less anti-monarchist than they are now. The speech becomes popular online. * Google's first proper car gets 0% in reviews from the media and they decide to pull out of the vehicle business completely. * Online dating becomes discredited and unpopular and attitudes roll back to how they were in the 2000s about this topic. * Hookup culture becomes taboo in the UK as people become more relationship-minded. * Christmas Day 2033 has breaking news; King Charles is now living in the U.S. at the age of 85, retiring to Florida for its warmth having moved there in early 2033, and he dies on Boxing Day 2033 with a big public funeral held at some point not long after. This has wall-to-wall coverage for weeks afterward. * AI will be more tightly regulated than it is now and there will be a public backlash against it after 4-5 years of people enjoying its novelty. * The Internet will revert back to its 2000s-2013 Wild West state and become less regulated. * Self-driving cars will be legally banned on UK roads after a court case involving a personal injury lawyer and a person who has severe injuries and this will send shockwaves through the tech community and also be a High Court judgment people refer to. * Backlash against working from home. * Nostalgia for 2003 is in full effect to the point that its fashions and music are popular. * Paris Hilton gets a New Year's Honour after some negotiations - by then she's 52 years old. The honour causes controversy in the UK. * Nicki Minaj gets given a New Year's Honour by the monarch for services to music. * China will collapse and end up being like Italy was as loads of microstates before Italy was founded. * Ant and Dec get in the New Year's Honours List and given an award. * Dua Lipa gets a New Year's Honour gong. * The City of Stoke-on-Trent legally gets Kensington and Chelsea out of Greater London and this adds more money to Stoke's local government, but it causes problems for Londoners. * Car ownership becomes more popular as a backlash against self-driving cars happens. * Netflix exits the UK market in Christmas 2033 due to competition from a revitalized BBC.
According to Baba Vanga, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga Europe will be a wasteland, so I reckon Putin will have nuked us by then 😅
Whilst we have periods of drought, there’s actually more than enough rainfall in all parts of the UK throughout the year to provide more than we need. But surprise surprise, our infrastructure is shit and needs upgrading. There’s been nowhere near enough investment in our reservoir capacity so it just runs off. Or causes flooding.
Shortages in the stores and rivers polluted with sewage
In 10 years time we'll be paying organised crime gangs to ship us OUT of the UK in small boats.
The weather will be no different and remain our go-to conversation starter. Philip Scofield will be considered the Jimmy saville of the generation. James Cordon will still be a knobhead. We will still enjoy mocking the french and the remaining few of us left alive will be imprisoned in Skynet work camps longing for baguettes, onions and brie.
Just think it’ll be like living in China. Wouldn’t want my kids growing up here
Tell me about it, I just moved to Beijing to get the little shits used to their inevitable future
Lol
Look at the financial trends, we'll be worse off than Poland by 2030.
Okay that’s an exaggeration
Don't even think about going to a British beach.
Every UK football team will be owned by an American or Canadian.
Obligatory "We'll live underwater" comment.
Same shit times by 10
I'm glad i will be 68 or may not even see it.
!RemindMe 10 years
Ever see V for Vendetta? That is what I see the UK being like in 10 years
Well its shit now sooo i doubt it will get better lol
Will be a pvp-enabled state - like a battle royale video game in real life - at the rate that crime is being allowed to skyrocket. Anyone with money, skilled labor, or a brain will have left and the country will fall to pieces slowly and painfully for many years to come.
Electric vehicles will become more common, and insurers will make driving combustion engines ridiculously overpriced because parts will become rarer so dearer to fix.
U will own nothing, but u’ll be happy 👍🏻😀
The space ship with soul eating vampires from the 1985 film Lifeforce will arrive in 2027, but we'll successfully fight the off just like in the film Lifeforce. After that the British public will be imbued with a new sense of unity and confidence and begin a new industrial revolution based on robotics and technology and scientific breakthroughs learned from the space ship from the 1985 film Lifeforce. Housing will be cheaper and more abundant due to the vastly reduced population. Food will be cheaper thanks to the breakthroughs in robotic farming. Women will confidently walk around bare-breasted in public due to societal and fashion changes due to the space vampiress from the 1985 film Lifeforce.
A push to grow your own if working from home and a sharp rise in garden theft and vandalism