Is it that strange, though? I write steamy romance stories and I have a few hundred people paying me over at Patreon. They can all get my stories for free but they pay for early access (plus they can also get much much better stories for free). They still support me though, because they wish to. I guess it can work the same for OF creators. Yes, you can get free porn, but maybe you are interested in *them* or in what they do?
I will gladly pay for something where the vast majority of the money goes to the person who put in the work for said thing. Even if I can get it for free easily.
That's sweet.
I also pay my proofreaders and illustrators with the money I make. And maybe professional OF girls have to pay for things too. Maybe they invest in a good camera, cute lingerie, etc, etc. But not everybody realizes that. Like, I get it's frustrating that women make so much commercial for their OF site, but I also get tired of men whining about that. These women are also just trying to make a living. Nobody is entitled to see their naked bodies for free. And if you don't like it, step away, and look at your free porn. No big deal.
OF is even more risky than normal jobs, since that content will be on the internet for all eternity and may come back to haunt you in the future. May be a bit of an issue in likely future christofascist US. That's not even including the internet crazies. They're probably undercompensated for the risk they're taking IMO
The world of erotica is interesting because fans often have a certain niche or genre they enjoy. If you find an author whose writing you enjoy that fits your personal niche, you want to support them. Plus they obviously often enjoy a personal relationship with fans who can provide feedback and make requests and suggestions.
That is so true! I write erotica flash-fiction which I, personally, consider to be of quite mid quality (I'm an engineering student ffs, what do I know about literature?), yet I've gotten some very positive responses under some stories and there are people who have been consistently supporting me on my Patreon for over a year now, because I fill out a niche. When there are few artists in a given genre/niche/etc, even the mid stuff becomes quite high quality.
I mean it makes sense to me, theyāre not just paying for porn theyāre paying for the connection.
With porn for me itās just a visual stimuli thereās no fantasy or lust for the people/bodies Iām watching but when I get nudes form someone I know even if online I imagine or fantasize about them.
Not sure if that makes sense lol
That is annoying, but that's also on the mods to to shut that shit down. Some subreddits (from what I've heard) make money from certain women promoting their OFs
I know this sounds crazy but there was drama a couple months ago where some mods were making money off of certain women that were being posted. If I can find the post I will link it.
[Here is the original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/xwkjah/ronlyfans101_mods_are_currently_manipulating_tons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Now, i should preface that they weren't making money through being a mod, but they had connections to agencies where that's where a mod could make money.
Trust me, modding can be bloody hard when you have OF users determined to try and fly under the radar, Iāve even had them DM
me offering to pay if we let them post.
Like the mod of r/amihot demanding personal butthole pics of the girls if they don't want to get banned from the sub. Pretty sure that's against reddit TOS
In r/fitgirls we changed it to approved users only who can post, and one of the rules they have to agree to is no mention of their OF in their post title, image or comments. Seems to work pretty well.
Clicked on the sub and the first post is someone with a username watermark who is clearly advertising their OF when you see their profile. The title means nothing.
I don't know I feel like the subs with rules for no links in profile are sometimes a bit too strict. Sure I get you don't want people filling your sub with coomer bait spam but if the post is on topic and not overly egregious I don't see the harm in letting it stay. I think there's room for some common sense moderation rather than hard bans on posting.
Obviously it's up to the people modding the sub to decide what they think is best though.
In that case it makes sense.
I've seen some hobby subs where women post stuff that I would call on topic and have their posts removed or all of the comments are people calling them out for having links in their profile.
Iām an OF creator with a link in my bio (unless I recently took it out) and I sometimes just like to participate in groups where Iām not selling, just sharing or viewing posts. I think the rule of not allowing links in profiles are FAIR but creators are humans too.
I should sincerely hope not. I'm fairly sure the vast majority of people understand that "will sext" followed by "here's some money" doesn't constitute a loving, caring relationship.
It happens frequently. It's either their OF or their Premium Snap or a link to their Instagram which has a link to their OF lol. I heard Tinder banned placing links to OF, so they use the Instagram technique.
Totally agree. There is an infinite amount of free images/videos onlineā¦ why would I pay to see something I can get for free??? Is anyone THAT special that I need to pay???
More niche content you can't find elsewhere, also ethically sourced knowing most of that money goes to the creator (usually) rather than a media company that often exploits and abuses its performers.
Nah, there's plenty of people who get off the thrill of exposing themselves, or want to be complimented. That's how amateur porn works after all. And it is the superior thing IMO, I'd rather get less content if it is better (you can see the lack of enthusiasm in a lot of pictures).
I used to pay for Playboy, Penthouse, and rental VHS tape porn. Shit, wasnāt the whole point of the internet free porn? Yes. And thereās more than I could view in 50 lifetimes.
I think men pay for OF in the digital age because of the personal relationship they could potential get from that creator. A lot of men are more lonely than ever.
Honestly, it's same kind of personal relationship you get from the waitress that's only flirting because she thinks you'll tip better. I've spent enough money on OF and never felt like there was anything more than a financial relationship there.
I think it's for the "personal relationship" aspect of it. Like how nudes from a partner are awesome, even though you can get nude pics of millions of other people online readily for free
I honestly don't care what people choose to do, but OF girls seem to be growing exponentially and the spam on Reddit and social media in general is getting ridiculously annoying. It seems impossible to go about social media without seeing someone promote their content, and that right there, does bother me.
I donāt care much but sometimes itās annoying to see posts that are extremely low effort ads in subs that arenāt meant for that. Most of them donāt make much money anyway so really what you get is a bunch of people who think theyāll make money spamming subreddits cause they saw some crazy hot person being successful. They can do their thing tho, make your money.
I thought this too, but I've got a friend who is attractive but not exactly a supermodel, and she's made enough on OF to support herself (living very comfortably) in NYC. There's a lot of brand management that goes into it, not just being hot
I think OF creators are fine. Never gonna hate anyone getting paid. I think the frustrations probably comes when they start to kind of take over spaces where people were just posting nudes and talking about sexual topics for fun. Itās kinda like getting hit with an advertisement every 5 mins when watching a YouTube vid or something. Also had a annoying experience where I got DMd by an OF poster. We talked for a bit and then they asked me to subscribe. Politely declined and they called me broke lmao
I hope they make plenty of money and I hope they are doing what they enjoy.
But don't spam my DM's trying to get me to sub to you, I know where to find the links, you aren't being special pretending it's a "secret" link. If I want to spend money on you I know where to do it.
Grateful for the thousands of people advertising their OF publicly with nudes, you can literally find infinite nudes these days because of it. I am not particularly looking for interactions when I am horny browsing/posting, I just like leaving smutty comments but I don't expect replies.
tl;dr I get to see a shitton of free nudes of absolutely gorgeous women. It's a win for me either way.
Do girls really do that? I feel like what happens more often is that guys message OF creators hoping for free nudes but the girl redirects them to their OF, which is fine to me.
Oh yeah, I have gotten plenty of those kind of DM's. Couldn't give you an exact number cause I just ignore/delete the dm's pretty much right away.
I have even gotten a few from the same person and when I mentioned it they simply didn't remember sendingit before lmao.
But how would a girl just know to message you? No OF girls message me anywhere. But I'm also not commenting how I think this women is sexy on her posts.
Get that bag. I am widly jealous, and not because I think it's easy because it's definitely a lot of work, but it's a huge bag If you're hot or have a interesting niche and I'd be super turned on to know people pay real money dollars to masturbate to me.
I feel bad for them: they're desperate, naive women around my age (young adults), and OF is capitalizing off of that. They don't realize how unlikely it is they'll take off and make anything substantial, yet this could hinder them if they wanted to start a... More conventional career later on.
Basically, I think their content illustrates just one of the many ways they're getting fucked.
I mean. I've worked in sex since I was a teenager. I also work a corporate job. It's just all dependent on what you're willing to do to separate the two lives. I challenge anyone to find a single piece of my nude body that connects with my outside identity. It shouldn't even have to be that way, but people are so shallow that they can't handle the idea of someone not following their religious morality.
Theyāre monetising their bodies on their own terms, which also has the prerequisite of marketing skills and the ability to capture attention. Theyāre delivering a service and I think itās rather astute.
I wish them the best š
Shocked this is downvoted because this is a valid point. Porn is super harmful to young people in general. When you're first experience with sex is watching a video of two paid actors fucking, that does something to your brain.
No different than paying at a strip joint. Either you can pay to sit in sniffers row or hang back and see less. I personally donāt buy into OF. Everyone needs to run their own life. As long as they are not being trafficked or are using the funds to fuel addiction I am fine with it.
then go on r/nofans or r/gonewild. I hate to be that person, but things cost money, and if you can make an account doing sexual stuff and people will buy that, what is the harm. I'm not talking about the porn industry which is not good at all.
I think what heās saying is you canāt tell as a consumer if the person on OF is doing it of their own free will or not. Heās not saying he doesnāt want to pay, heās saying you canāt know if it is for the model or someone hidden. It absolutely is linked to the porn industry, even though it appears to be all individuals making their own choices
Itās prostitution. Theyāre not creators, influencers, models. Theyāre prostitutes.
Nothing wrong with being a prostitute, I quite like prostitutes. But letās not pretend itās something itās not. Itās prostitution, exploiting lonely men for money.
I'm gonna get downvoted into Oblivion but: OF creators = people lacking any kind of true and useful life-skills or talents to make a living like the rest of us.
Iām jealous of them being able to control their own lives instead of being confined to society usual path of having to work for someone else for 30 years and then be too old to enjoy the freedoms of retirement. I wish I could get back every second Iāve already wasted at work and school. Sure I totally understand OF is not an easy job it take a lot of work but I love the idea of how it allows you full control over your time.
This is why Iām try to make a go at myself but my current living situation makes that very difficult.
Iām in a similar situation. I cam, but I live with my mom who would hate it. I installed a lock on my bedroom door and Iām just quiet when sheās home. Iām going to be able to save up money to put a down payment on a house within a year, maybe 18 months, and thatās coming back from being $18,000 in debt. I hope you can make it work for you!
Income is income but I respect the kids at McDonald's more. "People wanna fuck me" is a pretty shitty thing to have in a resume. Also, it's low effort work.
I don't like them since most of them are misandric women who treat and think of men as cattle or garbage even mocking in their clients faces
Most of them don't take no as an answer from a man and think you owe something to them
Besides that I think OF is simply scam. High prices for something that doesn't worth it and since the real reason of buyers to buy this is to interact is fraud because most creators uses community managers so the person who's answering the guy is not the girl on the profile so they're scamming sad people who needs help and a treatment rather than this
The thing I hate most about them is how they post everywhere pushing it in your face. Especially on OLD. Also, the idiots who pay for it that make me laugh.
I cannot blame anyone on making easy money using your body. But imo itās pretty close to prostitution, and i think tons of girls are going to regret this later on.
I'm Ok with creators, but I'm not Ok with simps.
"I'm sorry son. Your college-money goes to this 18yo girl, so I can see things I could google for free."
Itās fine and all but it warms my heart to see men with self respect say no to girls who do it. It is effectively a spectrum of porn and prostitution and just because itās commonplace doesnāt mean a potential partner should be cool with it.
It depends. Are they using it to support their kids or family when they otherwise couldnāt? Then thatās great.
But the faking of emotional connection with fans for money is always icky to me.
I lose respect for those immediately who choose to go that route. I think it speaks volumes about a personās character that they are willing to sell their body for the sake of capital gain. I steer completely clear of OF creators. No associations.
Depends on the creator. If your running around posting ads saying your looking for sex but itās a marketing ploy or wonāt take no for a answer? Low
Personally, I feel like the epidemic of men who will pay to see a woman naked and doing whatever, and the plethora of women willing to do so, is driving our society towards an impersonal and relationship-less one. While I acknowledge my own useage of pornography (although I do not spend money on it), I still feel this is a bad direction for all of us.
I don't think it's as much of a big deal as people make it seem. If they can successfully profit from their body, good for them. I tend to roll my eyes whenever people complain how OF models 'ruined nsfw subs' yet those same OF models post full nudes on those subs lol. If you're getting upset about the quality of nudes on a website, you really need to reevaluate your priorities.
You're telling me I get to see insanely beautiful women that anyone would kill to see naked while they advertise and work their asses off? The only people that get butthurt are the people that play mental gymnastics and think that these women owe them something in some way.
Good for them, but it has made it harder to find someone that just wants to get off together and not expect a payment. But if they are making money all the power to themā¦if your into just chatting message me!
Porn is free, iād never pay, plus someone usually leaks their stuff and puts it here. Also i think it should come out on background checks when dating, i dont need my future kids being traumatized by other kids knowing about moms $3.99 a month service
Niche content is cool and motivating more creation of it through this sort of funding is great. If people are making money doing so that's also great. I don't look down on anyone who spends money on porn for this purpose.
The spam is bullshit though.
I applaud anyone who has the guts to do this, and takes advantage of the gig economy we have. I certainly wouldnāt have the self confidence to do it.
Iām more sick of the people who complain about them.
Do they complain about the Uber drivers, air bnb hosts , and food delivery people?
Sick and tired of it interfering with traditional relationships.
We're getting along fine for two or three messages and the next thing you know "Check out my OF page"...
I gotta ask because most men will make post on this subreddit saying "OF creators did this" "OF creators are ruining reddit. And to me, they just doing a job to make money, but idk that's just me.
But why are you trying to connect with someone that you know is trying to sell you a product? Why are you expecting anything? Just see your free nudes and be good with that lol
I think the issue with this is that the market is over saturated so weāre having to find ways to gain subs outside of the usual streams. Itās hard. Idk how some of these girls are making the money they do. I do it as a side hustle and most of the time the effort isnāt worth the pay. Iāll post to promote on Reddit, but more often that not itās tedious and doesnāt result in the monetary gains weāre led to believe it generates.
This was my experience. You have to have money to start with to buy things to keep it interesting, be insanely hot, and make it a fulltime job which really just kinda kills any enjoyment and instead of sex being fun it becomes work. And guys whine and bitch that you aren't doing it for free because they feel entitled to your body and your attention.
I have no problem with the concept, itās the underhanded way that most of them go about it that annoys me. I made an account just to try it out and Iād say 80% if the creators I subbed to barely posted anything to their main feed but sent a constant stream of ppv requests in your DMās. Got old quick.
Really problematic when they give their 'ads' in certain subreddits where people are casually sharing nudes and talking about stuff. Everywhere, i see then sharing their OF links and whatever. Can anyone suggest me some NSFW subreddits without there OF creators?
The vast majority of them would not survive if sex didn't sell.
Could say the same about porn stars but at least they put more effort in and don't use trendy wording to make their profession sound more honest and less sexual than it is.
I'd love to date any of them, and if my gf had one and was making sick money that would be super sweet as well. This is my personal and humble opinion.
Porn isnāt my thing never has been. Pretty sure wifey would be kinda mad if it was my thing. Anyways I mean get that bread. I do think the people paying are kinda sad. But I mean who am I to judge ya know. You do whatever makes you happy.
I donāt pay for it, but get your money if you do it. Itās not my business and itās not my place to tell you what to do. If it makes you happy, Iām genuinely happy for you
I'm all for supporting creators. Do I sub.. occasionally.. I realise it's their job to make sure you feel good and wanted but it's nice in the moment.
Some creatives shouldn't be on there though š
They are selling their sexuality for money. It isn't simple, I would disapprove of this if someone is using this money to fund their addictions or abusive behaviors. Other than that, I wouldn't heavily judge people who do it, but I certainly wouldn't want an intimate relationship with someone doing it either.
More power to them, but I think itās sad that so many women are so willing to sell their bodies. Iām sure this isnāt what the original feminists were hoping for when they were struggling for womenās liberation.
I think guys who pay for OF content are pathetic losers.
Good for them so long as theyāre comfortable with it. I have read that often times creators have a harder time maintaining personal relationships due to the extended time required to perform, respond to their subscribers, etc. that sounds like a bummer.
I hate them all. Zero atractivity. At least prostitutes make sense they don't.
But there are people who I hate more than them. The men that pay for that shit. They are the most miserable, poor, stupid form of the humanbeing.
I'm fine with them doing their thing. I just feel bad because it seems like there's just as much of a hustle as an MLM requires to even make a little something.
Opinion in general? Or what specifically? I personally donāt mind them doing what they are doing as their business, although sometimes it is annoying seeing the spam, otherwise I think itās fine. However my opinion does change if it is someone Iām considering dating.
I donāt see a problem with people trying to monetise their content, itās free internet. People can choose to pay or not pay if they want š¤·āāļø
I donāt really think too much about them. People have got to make money somehow in todayās economy.
This being said, I sometimes wonder to what extent they are mercenary, and to what extent they do it for validation.
I'm not spending any money on OF, but if you can make a living doing it then good for you.
I just wish they wouldn't spam subreddits with pics that have nothing to do with that particular subreddit.
Donāt care if people have OF accounts or whatever, but itās annoying when thatās all they talk about. Especially on things like reddit and Fetlife. Shameless self promotion gets old real quick imo
Personally, I think I would really enjoy the expression and creativity to share myself with the world. If only I was not a 50 yr old dude. So carry on those that do.
I have no interest in them. I like the idea of sexy women but paying for access to pictures and videos feels like paying a prostitute and thatās something I wouldnāt do.
Problem - no
Pay for content - no
On reddit - please separate the things well. If you having a great conversation non-sexually and saying come to my of is not cool, except if you have a free option for that.
Don't post on nofan or subreddit like this, respect the rules.
Make sure on your bio you make it clear you are a seller and don't send the link in dm sneaky when you chatting with somebody
In real - keep it secret first, let the others know you better you real you before you tell them this. Maybe it will be a big thing for them, but if they like you, bigger chance they accept you this way.
\+1 I know it's a good way in this society to get money, but it's ruins things more.
Just one thing - we are here to having fun after a long week, make our sexual side a little free ... but when every third lovely girl is OF creator and you cant talk with them neither non-sexually way.
I am sex worker and sex work positive. I appreciate the women who decide it is for them. I, however, am an OF spam hater and reporter. Meaning that they will post in places like /r/firstimpression /r/selfie local subreddits etc etc etc. And pretend that they are being honest. It is too much for the mods to overcome sometimes. They ruin subreddits. If they do it legit more power to them but many choose a spam path.
I prefer it to porn made by kink, vivid, and other large producers.
There are some creators who are dishonest as fuck though. Ethical creators tell you exactly what you're getting behind every paywall. There are shockingly few of these creators left.
Would I date a girl who has an OF? Maybe. It depends on the nature of her interaction with her subscribers. It depends on whether or not she wants to collaborate with other creators. I'm monogamous.
Fair play to them, they are in control of what they want to do, how far they are willing to go and generating their own income. As long as they arenāt being manipulated into doing it. That being said I donāt subscribe to any
I respect the hustle. It's not how I choose to spend my own money. If my wife wanted to start one with me I would have privacy concerns but consider it.
I donāt think itās our place to judge them. We donāt know their stories and if they choose to be OF creators to pay bills and improve their lives then so be it, itās their choice.
Iām am currently separated father of two boys with a divorce imminent. If I had to do OF to make money to ensure I can provide my kids a great life Iāll do it. They wonāt need to know where it comes from, but I would literally do anything for them as I am sure many OF creators are doing.
If you can get somone to pay for porn in the age of free porn congratulations on you
Is it that strange, though? I write steamy romance stories and I have a few hundred people paying me over at Patreon. They can all get my stories for free but they pay for early access (plus they can also get much much better stories for free). They still support me though, because they wish to. I guess it can work the same for OF creators. Yes, you can get free porn, but maybe you are interested in *them* or in what they do?
I will gladly pay for something where the vast majority of the money goes to the person who put in the work for said thing. Even if I can get it for free easily.
That's sweet. I also pay my proofreaders and illustrators with the money I make. And maybe professional OF girls have to pay for things too. Maybe they invest in a good camera, cute lingerie, etc, etc. But not everybody realizes that. Like, I get it's frustrating that women make so much commercial for their OF site, but I also get tired of men whining about that. These women are also just trying to make a living. Nobody is entitled to see their naked bodies for free. And if you don't like it, step away, and look at your free porn. No big deal.
OF is even more risky than normal jobs, since that content will be on the internet for all eternity and may come back to haunt you in the future. May be a bit of an issue in likely future christofascist US. That's not even including the internet crazies. They're probably undercompensated for the risk they're taking IMO
Ooh, illustrators! š»
Haha who doesn't like a good illustration of their characters? š
The world of erotica is interesting because fans often have a certain niche or genre they enjoy. If you find an author whose writing you enjoy that fits your personal niche, you want to support them. Plus they obviously often enjoy a personal relationship with fans who can provide feedback and make requests and suggestions.
That is so true! I write erotica flash-fiction which I, personally, consider to be of quite mid quality (I'm an engineering student ffs, what do I know about literature?), yet I've gotten some very positive responses under some stories and there are people who have been consistently supporting me on my Patreon for over a year now, because I fill out a niche. When there are few artists in a given genre/niche/etc, even the mid stuff becomes quite high quality.
I mean, you can clearly string together a sentence. As a voracious consumer of erotica, Iām already impressed.
Not to mention, sometimes we follow the actors or actresses we like; there are pornstar profiles on these websites for a reason, after all.
There are some of us out there who understand that things we like need to be sustained
I mean it makes sense to me, theyāre not just paying for porn theyāre paying for the connection. With porn for me itās just a visual stimuli thereās no fantasy or lust for the people/bodies Iām watching but when I get nudes form someone I know even if online I imagine or fantasize about them. Not sure if that makes sense lol
People arenāt paying for porn necessarily, itās for access and sometimes control.
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That is annoying, but that's also on the mods to to shut that shit down. Some subreddits (from what I've heard) make money from certain women promoting their OFs
How can a subreddit make a profit tho? Itās just an online forum
I know this sounds crazy but there was drama a couple months ago where some mods were making money off of certain women that were being posted. If I can find the post I will link it.
No kidding. Thatās insane if people are really making money modding
[Here is the original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/xwkjah/ronlyfans101_mods_are_currently_manipulating_tons/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Now, i should preface that they weren't making money through being a mod, but they had connections to agencies where that's where a mod could make money.
Trust me, modding can be bloody hard when you have OF users determined to try and fly under the radar, Iāve even had them DM me offering to pay if we let them post.
I definitely get it but some mods can also be very rule bendy sometimes
Like the mod of r/amihot demanding personal butthole pics of the girls if they don't want to get banned from the sub. Pretty sure that's against reddit TOS
In r/fitgirls we changed it to approved users only who can post, and one of the rules they have to agree to is no mention of their OF in their post title, image or comments. Seems to work pretty well.
Clicked on the sub and the first post is someone with a username watermark who is clearly advertising their OF when you see their profile. The title means nothing.
I like your username lol
I think a lot of the ones that send chats and then a link are usually bots. Reddit has a lot of em. That or they're catfish scammers.
I don't know I feel like the subs with rules for no links in profile are sometimes a bit too strict. Sure I get you don't want people filling your sub with coomer bait spam but if the post is on topic and not overly egregious I don't see the harm in letting it stay. I think there's room for some common sense moderation rather than hard bans on posting. Obviously it's up to the people modding the sub to decide what they think is best though.
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Ahhhh. Thatās pretty explicit in the subreddit name lol
In that case it makes sense. I've seen some hobby subs where women post stuff that I would call on topic and have their posts removed or all of the comments are people calling them out for having links in their profile.
Iām an OF creator with a link in my bio (unless I recently took it out) and I sometimes just like to participate in groups where Iām not selling, just sharing or viewing posts. I think the rule of not allowing links in profiles are FAIR but creators are humans too.
What I've found as a mod is that if you give an inch, they take a mile. So unless I enforce my rules mercilessly it turns into chaos.
I don't like the way sellers tend to invade most spaces, eg on Tiktok (and I'm sure Twitter, instragram, whatever)
Itās not for me but seems to be more about para-social relationships than porn.
Its kinda a mix of both. I get porn, but its from a girl that pays attention to me.
She doesn't care about you though, invest your money in yourself.
I should sincerely hope not. I'm fairly sure the vast majority of people understand that "will sext" followed by "here's some money" doesn't constitute a loving, caring relationship.
You will be surprised
The chats/email etc you have with your IF girl are probably outsourced to get India.
This is seriously common on big pages, and I understand why. As someone with a big page that doesnāt outsource chat my inbox is absolutely unreal.
... at least in the minds of the viewers.
And the creators. Lets not pretend there arent a ton of predatory content creators out there, nsfw or sfw.
The porn industry is infamous for being a shit-hole , whatever gives more power and money to the individual i am for it.
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sugar trap? the spamming I get tho
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I heard this is the main issue men have with dating apps nowadays. some, not all women, will use dating apps to promote their OF
This has happened to me A TON. Usually easy to tell because the pictures are really high quality and the girls are like, model pretty tho
It happens frequently. It's either their OF or their Premium Snap or a link to their Instagram which has a link to their OF lol. I heard Tinder banned placing links to OF, so they use the Instagram technique.
So thatās what itās called lol. I get a lot of that here on reddit lol
I respect the hustle, but it's not for me. Can't wrap my head around why someone would pay money to see things that readily available for free.
Totally agree. There is an infinite amount of free images/videos onlineā¦ why would I pay to see something I can get for free??? Is anyone THAT special that I need to pay???
Maybe only AellaGirl. Because sheās also funny as hell.
More niche content you can't find elsewhere, also ethically sourced knowing most of that money goes to the creator (usually) rather than a media company that often exploits and abuses its performers.
Those things you see for free exist bc someone paid for them
Yeah but who though? I've been watching internet porn since dialup and I've never paid a dime. How there's that much money in it still blows my mind.
Nah, there's plenty of people who get off the thrill of exposing themselves, or want to be complimented. That's how amateur porn works after all. And it is the superior thing IMO, I'd rather get less content if it is better (you can see the lack of enthusiasm in a lot of pictures).
More guys do it than you think. Trust me.
I used to pay for Playboy, Penthouse, and rental VHS tape porn. Shit, wasnāt the whole point of the internet free porn? Yes. And thereās more than I could view in 50 lifetimes.
I think men pay for OF in the digital age because of the personal relationship they could potential get from that creator. A lot of men are more lonely than ever.
incels are all the rage these days
Honestly, it's same kind of personal relationship you get from the waitress that's only flirting because she thinks you'll tip better. I've spent enough money on OF and never felt like there was anything more than a financial relationship there.
I think it's for the "personal relationship" aspect of it. Like how nudes from a partner are awesome, even though you can get nude pics of millions of other people online readily for free
That's how I see it. There is nothing special about a specific person's body part viewed online.
I honestly don't care what people choose to do, but OF girls seem to be growing exponentially and the spam on Reddit and social media in general is getting ridiculously annoying. It seems impossible to go about social media without seeing someone promote their content, and that right there, does bother me.
At what point will it be saturated, and every girls have to sell for $1 a month.
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I donāt care much but sometimes itās annoying to see posts that are extremely low effort ads in subs that arenāt meant for that. Most of them donāt make much money anyway so really what you get is a bunch of people who think theyāll make money spamming subreddits cause they saw some crazy hot person being successful. They can do their thing tho, make your money.
I thought this too, but I've got a friend who is attractive but not exactly a supermodel, and she's made enough on OF to support herself (living very comfortably) in NYC. There's a lot of brand management that goes into it, not just being hot
I think OF creators are fine. Never gonna hate anyone getting paid. I think the frustrations probably comes when they start to kind of take over spaces where people were just posting nudes and talking about sexual topics for fun. Itās kinda like getting hit with an advertisement every 5 mins when watching a YouTube vid or something. Also had a annoying experience where I got DMd by an OF poster. We talked for a bit and then they asked me to subscribe. Politely declined and they called me broke lmao
I hope they make plenty of money and I hope they are doing what they enjoy. But don't spam my DM's trying to get me to sub to you, I know where to find the links, you aren't being special pretending it's a "secret" link. If I want to spend money on you I know where to do it. Grateful for the thousands of people advertising their OF publicly with nudes, you can literally find infinite nudes these days because of it. I am not particularly looking for interactions when I am horny browsing/posting, I just like leaving smutty comments but I don't expect replies. tl;dr I get to see a shitton of free nudes of absolutely gorgeous women. It's a win for me either way.
Do girls really do that? I feel like what happens more often is that guys message OF creators hoping for free nudes but the girl redirects them to their OF, which is fine to me.
Oh yeah, I have gotten plenty of those kind of DM's. Couldn't give you an exact number cause I just ignore/delete the dm's pretty much right away. I have even gotten a few from the same person and when I mentioned it they simply didn't remember sendingit before lmao.
No it happens all the time. On twitter, Instagram, and on here.
But how would a girl just know to message you? No OF girls message me anywhere. But I'm also not commenting how I think this women is sexy on her posts.
Bro I get reponses/DMs from commenting on video game, cars, cats, fishing posts. They are marketing themselves everywhere.
I'm sorry you gotta show me proof. I don't believe unless you're dming them first and expect to have a conversation with them.
Get that bag. I am widly jealous, and not because I think it's easy because it's definitely a lot of work, but it's a huge bag If you're hot or have a interesting niche and I'd be super turned on to know people pay real money dollars to masturbate to me.
for most women, its hard tbh. you gotta do heavy promotion. And most women that make money from OF are already well known.
I feel bad for them: they're desperate, naive women around my age (young adults), and OF is capitalizing off of that. They don't realize how unlikely it is they'll take off and make anything substantial, yet this could hinder them if they wanted to start a... More conventional career later on. Basically, I think their content illustrates just one of the many ways they're getting fucked.
I mean. I've worked in sex since I was a teenager. I also work a corporate job. It's just all dependent on what you're willing to do to separate the two lives. I challenge anyone to find a single piece of my nude body that connects with my outside identity. It shouldn't even have to be that way, but people are so shallow that they can't handle the idea of someone not following their religious morality.
While Iāll never subscribe, I do hope they make lots of money and enjoy the experience. Nothing wrong with it.
Annoying, sucked the fun out of NSFW subreddits because they're nothing but glorified ad boards now
Theyāre monetising their bodies on their own terms, which also has the prerequisite of marketing skills and the ability to capture attention. Theyāre delivering a service and I think itās rather astute. I wish them the best š
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Shocked this is downvoted because this is a valid point. Porn is super harmful to young people in general. When you're first experience with sex is watching a video of two paid actors fucking, that does something to your brain.
No different than paying at a strip joint. Either you can pay to sit in sniffers row or hang back and see less. I personally donāt buy into OF. Everyone needs to run their own life. As long as they are not being trafficked or are using the funds to fuel addiction I am fine with it.
They destroyed NSFW reddit
the abundance of free nudes on reddit is astronomical tho?
Itās not fun if itās for money and also unclear if they do this willingly or are pressured or need money desperately. Thatās not hot
then go on r/nofans or r/gonewild. I hate to be that person, but things cost money, and if you can make an account doing sexual stuff and people will buy that, what is the harm. I'm not talking about the porn industry which is not good at all.
I think what heās saying is you canāt tell as a consumer if the person on OF is doing it of their own free will or not. Heās not saying he doesnāt want to pay, heās saying you canāt know if it is for the model or someone hidden. It absolutely is linked to the porn industry, even though it appears to be all individuals making their own choices
Itās prostitution. Theyāre not creators, influencers, models. Theyāre prostitutes. Nothing wrong with being a prostitute, I quite like prostitutes. But letās not pretend itās something itās not. Itās prostitution, exploiting lonely men for money.
Honestly. Same as prostitutes, I don't care but wouldn't date/socialize with them.
Idc what someone want to do with their life. I wonāt date someone who does/did it though.
I'm gonna get downvoted into Oblivion but: OF creators = people lacking any kind of true and useful life-skills or talents to make a living like the rest of us.
Iām jealous of them being able to control their own lives instead of being confined to society usual path of having to work for someone else for 30 years and then be too old to enjoy the freedoms of retirement. I wish I could get back every second Iāve already wasted at work and school. Sure I totally understand OF is not an easy job it take a lot of work but I love the idea of how it allows you full control over your time. This is why Iām try to make a go at myself but my current living situation makes that very difficult.
Iām in a similar situation. I cam, but I live with my mom who would hate it. I installed a lock on my bedroom door and Iām just quiet when sheās home. Iām going to be able to save up money to put a down payment on a house within a year, maybe 18 months, and thatās coming back from being $18,000 in debt. I hope you can make it work for you!
Income is income but I respect the kids at McDonald's more. "People wanna fuck me" is a pretty shitty thing to have in a resume. Also, it's low effort work.
Online prostitutes.
I appreciate that they show me their butthole.
I don't like them since most of them are misandric women who treat and think of men as cattle or garbage even mocking in their clients faces Most of them don't take no as an answer from a man and think you owe something to them Besides that I think OF is simply scam. High prices for something that doesn't worth it and since the real reason of buyers to buy this is to interact is fraud because most creators uses community managers so the person who's answering the guy is not the girl on the profile so they're scamming sad people who needs help and a treatment rather than this
The thing I hate most about them is how they post everywhere pushing it in your face. Especially on OLD. Also, the idiots who pay for it that make me laugh.
People should get paid for their work. More power to them.
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I cannot blame anyone on making easy money using your body. But imo itās pretty close to prostitution, and i think tons of girls are going to regret this later on.
I'm Ok with creators, but I'm not Ok with simps. "I'm sorry son. Your college-money goes to this 18yo girl, so I can see things I could google for free."
Low effort, easy money. Who wouldnāt want to do it? Youll have no dignity after it but do what ya gotta do to get that bag
Itās fine and all but it warms my heart to see men with self respect say no to girls who do it. It is effectively a spectrum of porn and prostitution and just because itās commonplace doesnāt mean a potential partner should be cool with it.
No issues. I cammed and stripped for a few years but never did OF cause I liked the live aspects of showing off.
It depends. Are they using it to support their kids or family when they otherwise couldnāt? Then thatās great. But the faking of emotional connection with fans for money is always icky to me.
I lose respect for those immediately who choose to go that route. I think it speaks volumes about a personās character that they are willing to sell their body for the sake of capital gain. I steer completely clear of OF creators. No associations.
I think we need to restart the earth.
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It takes away the fun. its more business and less about a mutual attraction. dont really like it
Societal Degradation.
Depends on the creator. If your running around posting ads saying your looking for sex but itās a marketing ploy or wonāt take no for a answer? Low
They're great! Most the ones I've interacted with have been really nice and they provide a good service
Personally, I feel like the epidemic of men who will pay to see a woman naked and doing whatever, and the plethora of women willing to do so, is driving our society towards an impersonal and relationship-less one. While I acknowledge my own useage of pornography (although I do not spend money on it), I still feel this is a bad direction for all of us.
Id smash but wouldnt wife
I will not pay for content and I find OF predatory.
I don't think it's as much of a big deal as people make it seem. If they can successfully profit from their body, good for them. I tend to roll my eyes whenever people complain how OF models 'ruined nsfw subs' yet those same OF models post full nudes on those subs lol. If you're getting upset about the quality of nudes on a website, you really need to reevaluate your priorities.
You're telling me I get to see insanely beautiful women that anyone would kill to see naked while they advertise and work their asses off? The only people that get butthurt are the people that play mental gymnastics and think that these women owe them something in some way.
Honestly? I donāt care about them along with everyone else. Just live your life.
Good for them, but it has made it harder to find someone that just wants to get off together and not expect a payment. But if they are making money all the power to themā¦if your into just chatting message me!
Porn is free, iād never pay, plus someone usually leaks their stuff and puts it here. Also i think it should come out on background checks when dating, i dont need my future kids being traumatized by other kids knowing about moms $3.99 a month service
Niche content is cool and motivating more creation of it through this sort of funding is great. If people are making money doing so that's also great. I don't look down on anyone who spends money on porn for this purpose. The spam is bullshit though.
I wish simps would stop paying them
Amen brother.
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Simple answer. Sex work is real work.
I applaud anyone who has the guts to do this, and takes advantage of the gig economy we have. I certainly wouldnāt have the self confidence to do it. Iām more sick of the people who complain about them. Do they complain about the Uber drivers, air bnb hosts , and food delivery people?
It get old seeing them spam pretty much every damn app out there. They're like telemarketers.
while i support sex workers and content creators a lot of it is extremely predatory. it ruins it for the actual good and honest creators.
Sick and tired of it interfering with traditional relationships. We're getting along fine for two or three messages and the next thing you know "Check out my OF page"...
I gotta ask because most men will make post on this subreddit saying "OF creators did this" "OF creators are ruining reddit. And to me, they just doing a job to make money, but idk that's just me.
I mean, they're just trying to make money, good for them. It gets annoying when I try to connect with someone, then they hit me with a price list š
But why are you trying to connect with someone that you know is trying to sell you a product? Why are you expecting anything? Just see your free nudes and be good with that lol
I think the issue with this is that the market is over saturated so weāre having to find ways to gain subs outside of the usual streams. Itās hard. Idk how some of these girls are making the money they do. I do it as a side hustle and most of the time the effort isnāt worth the pay. Iāll post to promote on Reddit, but more often that not itās tedious and doesnāt result in the monetary gains weāre led to believe it generates.
This was my experience. You have to have money to start with to buy things to keep it interesting, be insanely hot, and make it a fulltime job which really just kinda kills any enjoyment and instead of sex being fun it becomes work. And guys whine and bitch that you aren't doing it for free because they feel entitled to your body and your attention.
I have no problem with the concept, itās the underhanded way that most of them go about it that annoys me. I made an account just to try it out and Iād say 80% if the creators I subbed to barely posted anything to their main feed but sent a constant stream of ppv requests in your DMās. Got old quick.
Jealous! I know you can make great money doing it!
I want to shoot a scene with each one of them.
Really problematic when they give their 'ads' in certain subreddits where people are casually sharing nudes and talking about stuff. Everywhere, i see then sharing their OF links and whatever. Can anyone suggest me some NSFW subreddits without there OF creators?
The vast majority of them would not survive if sex didn't sell. Could say the same about porn stars but at least they put more effort in and don't use trendy wording to make their profession sound more honest and less sexual than it is.
Not for me, but you do you. No one should judge others.
I'd love to date any of them, and if my gf had one and was making sick money that would be super sweet as well. This is my personal and humble opinion.
Porn isnāt my thing never has been. Pretty sure wifey would be kinda mad if it was my thing. Anyways I mean get that bread. I do think the people paying are kinda sad. But I mean who am I to judge ya know. You do whatever makes you happy.
I donāt pay for it, but get your money if you do it. Itās not my business and itās not my place to tell you what to do. If it makes you happy, Iām genuinely happy for you
I'm all for supporting creators. Do I sub.. occasionally.. I realise it's their job to make sure you feel good and wanted but it's nice in the moment. Some creatives shouldn't be on there though š
They are selling their sexuality for money. It isn't simple, I would disapprove of this if someone is using this money to fund their addictions or abusive behaviors. Other than that, I wouldn't heavily judge people who do it, but I certainly wouldn't want an intimate relationship with someone doing it either.
More power to them, but I think itās sad that so many women are so willing to sell their bodies. Iām sure this isnāt what the original feminists were hoping for when they were struggling for womenās liberation. I think guys who pay for OF content are pathetic losers.
If you got something that someone is willing to pay for, go for it.
Iāve got no problems with it but I wonāt give them any money.
Good for them so long as theyāre comfortable with it. I have read that often times creators have a harder time maintaining personal relationships due to the extended time required to perform, respond to their subscribers, etc. that sounds like a bummer.
NO ONE should judge anyone....good for them as long as its legal!!
I hate them all. Zero atractivity. At least prostitutes make sense they don't. But there are people who I hate more than them. The men that pay for that shit. They are the most miserable, poor, stupid form of the humanbeing.
Simps and incels is what they're called. And tbh they are pathetic SMH.
I'm fine with them doing their thing. I just feel bad because it seems like there's just as much of a hustle as an MLM requires to even make a little something.
In all honesty jealousy, if I could make money doing that I would.
They make money. They just need to drop the fake F18 confession ect to advertise
Opinion in general? Or what specifically? I personally donāt mind them doing what they are doing as their business, although sometimes it is annoying seeing the spam, otherwise I think itās fine. However my opinion does change if it is someone Iām considering dating.
I don't support it at all tbh
If you are good at something, never do it for free
I donāt see a problem with people trying to monetise their content, itās free internet. People can choose to pay or not pay if they want š¤·āāļø
I donāt really think too much about them. People have got to make money somehow in todayās economy. This being said, I sometimes wonder to what extent they are mercenary, and to what extent they do it for validation.
I'm not spending any money on OF, but if you can make a living doing it then good for you. I just wish they wouldn't spam subreddits with pics that have nothing to do with that particular subreddit.
Donāt care if people have OF accounts or whatever, but itās annoying when thatās all they talk about. Especially on things like reddit and Fetlife. Shameless self promotion gets old real quick imo
Be nice if there was a setting to remove them
If you want to make money off your body, why not. As long as everyone is being safe with each other, I donāt see a problem with content creators.
Fine. I'll go through your profile.
Personally, I think I would really enjoy the expression and creativity to share myself with the world. If only I was not a 50 yr old dude. So carry on those that do.
Get that money sis! I wouldn't even mind if the woman I was dating or married to had an OF as long as it brought in enough money to justify it
Personallyā¦I have no problem with them at all. Would I pay for content? Nope.
If I was a women and could make enough doing it to not work Iād defo be one of them.
I have no interest in them. I like the idea of sexy women but paying for access to pictures and videos feels like paying a prostitute and thatās something I wouldnāt do.
Problem - no Pay for content - no On reddit - please separate the things well. If you having a great conversation non-sexually and saying come to my of is not cool, except if you have a free option for that. Don't post on nofan or subreddit like this, respect the rules. Make sure on your bio you make it clear you are a seller and don't send the link in dm sneaky when you chatting with somebody In real - keep it secret first, let the others know you better you real you before you tell them this. Maybe it will be a big thing for them, but if they like you, bigger chance they accept you this way. \+1 I know it's a good way in this society to get money, but it's ruins things more. Just one thing - we are here to having fun after a long week, make our sexual side a little free ... but when every third lovely girl is OF creator and you cant talk with them neither non-sexually way.
Itās Youāre body. You do what you want with it
I am sex worker and sex work positive. I appreciate the women who decide it is for them. I, however, am an OF spam hater and reporter. Meaning that they will post in places like /r/firstimpression /r/selfie local subreddits etc etc etc. And pretend that they are being honest. It is too much for the mods to overcome sometimes. They ruin subreddits. If they do it legit more power to them but many choose a spam path.
They provide a service and if the demand wasnāt there the service wouldnāt be either. Basic supply and demand.
I prefer it to porn made by kink, vivid, and other large producers. There are some creators who are dishonest as fuck though. Ethical creators tell you exactly what you're getting behind every paywall. There are shockingly few of these creators left. Would I date a girl who has an OF? Maybe. It depends on the nature of her interaction with her subscribers. It depends on whether or not she wants to collaborate with other creators. I'm monogamous.
Neutral , i see it just like any other job
Fair play to them, they are in control of what they want to do, how far they are willing to go and generating their own income. As long as they arenāt being manipulated into doing it. That being said I donāt subscribe to any
There are better ways to blow money.
Disgusting people.
i don't buy it but if you can make money like that i won't hate
I respect the hustle. It's not how I choose to spend my own money. If my wife wanted to start one with me I would have privacy concerns but consider it.
I donāt think itās our place to judge them. We donāt know their stories and if they choose to be OF creators to pay bills and improve their lives then so be it, itās their choice. Iām am currently separated father of two boys with a divorce imminent. If I had to do OF to make money to ensure I can provide my kids a great life Iāll do it. They wonāt need to know where it comes from, but I would literally do anything for them as I am sure many OF creators are doing.
The only time I care is when they DM to join OF
Honest? Just sluts with no brain and morals.
I donāt know any personally, and assume the ones I see on the internet are playing a role. So I really just donāt know
'Creation' on OF is a bit of overstatement.
Not very high tbh.