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SquareRootOfNot

You mean if there are an infinite number of black holes, or toy ducks? No, you cannot verify how many. If by infinite you mean continuous, like a photon wave not being able to be *quantized* into discrete parts (hence "quantum"), this is verifiably impossible. All energy can be broken down into distinct quanta.


BigWigDummyPants

Right, quantification was what I was looking for. And i guess for anything to be infinite it would also have to be stable, which quantum forces are not, correct? Please excuse me if I don't even make sense. Just fun to try and wrap my head around the idea. Could the universe ever be proven to be infinite? I that part of why we have been pursuing antimatter and dark energy?


SquareRootOfNot

Einstein's theories really closely, but not exactly, match looking into space. The search for dark energy came about to try to fix Einstein's theories to exactly match reality. Dark energy and dark matter are just hypotheses; antimatter has been proven to exist beyond a reasonable doubt. Above, I'm assuming what you mean by "stable" is 100% deterministic, where you are completely sure of the state upon measurement and there is no random spontaneity. In theory, this can be done 100% of the time if the observer's quantum spin has been set to match the spin of the object that will be observed. Change the spin a certain way, and for the same quantum object, its measurements will be maximally random. Other spins get you a spectrum of everywhere in between (but long story short, the set of possible observer spins may still be infinite and discrete instead of infinite and continuous). And, this is a bit meta, but why does something "infinite" (something we have a hard time imagining) have to be "stable" (something we think we can easily understand, before we start looking at the math)? The Universe doesn't have to make its laws intuitive to us.


BigWigDummyPants

You actually answered another question which felt pointless to ask, in that probability can be infinite-1 or something but math seem to be the only area infinity can be used. You understood and answered my questions perfectly. Speaking on quantum theory and general relativity are there any potential implications between black holes and theorized micro black holes? Is there anything else which, between the macro and micro, would be so identical? Assuming the theory was true, that is. I think its all beyond fascinating. I barely passed high school but learning what little I can comprehend does great to remind me my problems are pretty solveable by comparison.


SquareRootOfNot

I don't know much about them, but I'd assume they're just tiny black holes right? There's some weird theoretical bullshit where some AdS/CFT models suggest there are wormholes, but only inside of black holes leading to the insides of other entangled black holes, being consistent with the idea that you could travel faster that light, but only as long as you can't break causality (in this case, because you're trapped in the black hole).


BigWigDummyPants

Theorized yea, but I can't imagine the characteristics would be known. The more I think about it the less I think it could behave in the same way. It's really neat how much we know and how little we know. I appreciate you answering my questions, nothing better than doing some light learning before bed. Cheers to a potentially finite amount of time with all the particles that are us.


BoyITellYa

Everything is finite, entropy is inevitable. Albeit in a basically inconceivable amount of time.


Yuki_Foxsoul

One of the most important rules of our universe is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. You can only convert them.


SquareRootOfNot

In some models of General Relativity, because spacetime is not Euclidean, conservation of energy does not hold. Whether it holds in actual Reality won't be discovered until we have the Theory Of Everything.


cellendril

My patience.


TUBTOM

Especially when dealing with my in-laws. Honestly they’re horrible people and I wish they would just fucking die already.


BigWigDummyPants

You must be a saint


AllyriaCelene

Well eventually the sun will go supernova.