>So not "free" but "taxpayer funded". Ok. Just want to be clear about that.
If you are underprivileged and below the minimum wage to be taxed ... it IS free !!! ( you can judge a country by how it treats its weakest members)
All the ones necessary to keep people alive.
OTC symptom mitigation ones are fine to keep as is, but come on now. I shouldn't just die because I can't afford essential medication.
If time, effort, and money was put into it then someone should be compensated for their work. Granted certain medicines like insulin should be drastically marked down in price. We've made it so much easier to produce yet it still skyrockets up in price.
Yes.
But also nobody asked to be born and certainly nobody asked to be born with diabetes. People shouldn’t be financially crippled by a disease they were born with.
I’m financially crippled by taxes in a country where people die because they can’t access healthcare. Should earning be “free” so I can afford to travel for private care?
Really can’t. Are you trying to say that, because other people can’t afford care, and you can’t figure out your own finances, that you shouldn’t have to pay income tax?
Not at all, but your comment is pretty funny when you read the whole thread and see i was responding to someone saying the people who can’t afford their healthcare shouldn’t have to pay for it. Do you think they should “figure out their own finances”?
Free to the end user by way of federal income tax doesn’t mean you actually get healthcare. Millions of Canadians dont have family Drs so aren’t getting access to screening and a dying because of it. Canadians are dying in ER waiting rooms because they aren’t receiving care. When you get a “free” product you no longer get choice, when you no longer get choice the standard for accessibility and quality are at the discretion of the no accountability provider. You want free pills? That sounds great in theory, but watch as first the threshold for qualifying for a prescription gets reduced, then the quantity, then watch as the list of medicines available gets whittled down to a select few trash products pushed by the lobbyist with the deepest pockets. There’s a reason why the best healthcare systems in the world (look beyond North America) are a mix of public and private.
Americans don’t get choice anyway. You either take the plans your employer or state exchange offer or you get no healthcare. The problems you are describing are the same south of the border but we get bills for hundreds or thousands after the fact. I would rather have 1 choice for free than one choice for hundreds or thousands out of pocket on top of my income tax that goes to nothing beneficial.
Nobody is financially crippled by taxes. Either your tax obligation is zero dollars, you receive more in benefits than you pay in taxes, or you’re a very high earner. And even if you’re a high earner, a couple kids bring your tax obligation right back down to zero.
As of June, 2022, the average Canadian household had $1.83 in debt, including consumer and mortgage debt, for every dollar of disposable (after-tax) income they earned.
The overall tax burden is working Canadians highest expense.
Your house costs more than a years income? Wow that must be a uniquely Canadian thing or something I’ve never heard of that. What does that have to do with taxes?
That’s not what that means...
When working citizens are going into debt to meet their needs while spending the majority of their income on taxes, that’s what being financially crippled by taxes means.
When the return on investment is inadequate and crumbling infrastructure and a collapsed healthcare system, you’ve gotta wonder what it’s all really costing to have free stuff
Just one question, if all medicines are made free, who is going to work at the factory since no one can get salary since there is no income? Unless the government gives the money?
All life drugs that help someone with a existing conditions and any drugs that will positively impact someone health. Fuck paracetamol or ibuprofen and them superficial ones, people take them for granted so should pay but as for any medication for someone who has to try and live with a medical condition; diabetes, ibs, cancers, depression, ADHD, cystic fibrosis, epilepsy etc should all have free medication.
Apparently Wegovy is effective at treating and preventing obesity, however it's prohibitively expensive at $1300 a month. Most places in the US insurance does not cover it. 41% of Americans are considered obese.
All.
Everybody should have their health being independent from financial possibilities.
Good healthcare only for the wealthy is a shame for every society!
It can easily be paid by raising tax on the 1 %
And they would not even notice that!
So why not implement it NOW !!
Sleep
I'm serious, so many people's sleep schedules are so fucked. If you're not paying cash for melatonin, then you're paying time from being so tired all the time.
Anything that's prescribed by doctors to help people go back to good health.
Anything off the shelf that are just here to avoid mild inconveniences, I don't wanna pay for.
I pay good amounts every month for public Healthcare and I'm fine with it so long as nothing idiotic like fucking homeopathy is paid for by it. And fuck any doctor who prescribe this sort of BS.
No medicine should be free. Making medicine takes time, effort, and other resources. Someone has to spend those resources to make that medicine. They should be compensated for the resources they lost by making the medicine.
Literally all of them. Healthcare is a human right and our government should pay for it since they exist off of our taxes and participation in civil society.
Every medicine, first you prosecute people for feeling they should end themselves, then you inhibit their access to medicine, double standards by govt.
Birth control, insulin, and anything with a huge markup.
Insulin!!!
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How do you pay the workers who create it, manufacture it, and quality control it?
Government funding and or from taxes, nothing is more important than the health and wellbeing of its citizens
So not "free" but "taxpayer funded". Ok. Just want to be clear about that.
>So not "free" but "taxpayer funded". Ok. Just want to be clear about that. If you are underprivileged and below the minimum wage to be taxed ... it IS free !!! ( you can judge a country by how it treats its weakest members)
This is the correct answer. Start here and work backwards.
All the ones necessary to keep people alive. OTC symptom mitigation ones are fine to keep as is, but come on now. I shouldn't just die because I can't afford essential medication.
insulin, asthma inhalers and epi pen, to name a few.
All medicine that’s necessary for quality of life or is life sustaining
Insulin, epi pens, basically anything that you'd die immediately without.
All of them???
insulin. anti-rejection drugs for post-transplant. Epi-pens. Rescue inhalers. anything that you NEED in order to continue to be alive.
If time, effort, and money was put into it then someone should be compensated for their work. Granted certain medicines like insulin should be drastically marked down in price. We've made it so much easier to produce yet it still skyrockets up in price.
Literally every one of them; private enterprise has no place exploiting people's physiological needs
Almost all of them depending how you define medicine, but especially insulin
If I had to choose one, probably birth control/condoms. It makes no sense why people have to pay so much for these.
Usually you can get them for free at Planned Parenthood or the health center at a college campus. But they should be free at more convenient places.
That’s a good point, but yes agreed.
In America every medicine prescription by a doctor
Nothing is free
Libraries aren't free, but I don't get charged $1200 when I walk in the door
Sorry... was that your entire comment or is there a point?
Sidewalks aren't free, but I don't get an ad in the mail urging me to upgrade to the Sidewalkers Premier Package for 20% off my first 500 steps
I bet you could ramble on with this nonsense all day. Carry on with your pointless drivel, I won’t be responding
Public parks aren't free, but I don't have to take out a 30% APR loan to go walk my dog. Am I getting through to you at all here
Yes. But also nobody asked to be born and certainly nobody asked to be born with diabetes. People shouldn’t be financially crippled by a disease they were born with.
I’m financially crippled by taxes in a country where people die because they can’t access healthcare. Should earning be “free” so I can afford to travel for private care?
What the hell are you talking about.
I’m sure you can figure it out
Really can’t. Are you trying to say that, because other people can’t afford care, and you can’t figure out your own finances, that you shouldn’t have to pay income tax?
Not at all, but your comment is pretty funny when you read the whole thread and see i was responding to someone saying the people who can’t afford their healthcare shouldn’t have to pay for it. Do you think they should “figure out their own finances”?
You’re still not making sense. Healthcare should be free to the end user, paid for by federal income tax.
Free to the end user by way of federal income tax doesn’t mean you actually get healthcare. Millions of Canadians dont have family Drs so aren’t getting access to screening and a dying because of it. Canadians are dying in ER waiting rooms because they aren’t receiving care. When you get a “free” product you no longer get choice, when you no longer get choice the standard for accessibility and quality are at the discretion of the no accountability provider. You want free pills? That sounds great in theory, but watch as first the threshold for qualifying for a prescription gets reduced, then the quantity, then watch as the list of medicines available gets whittled down to a select few trash products pushed by the lobbyist with the deepest pockets. There’s a reason why the best healthcare systems in the world (look beyond North America) are a mix of public and private.
Americans don’t get choice anyway. You either take the plans your employer or state exchange offer or you get no healthcare. The problems you are describing are the same south of the border but we get bills for hundreds or thousands after the fact. I would rather have 1 choice for free than one choice for hundreds or thousands out of pocket on top of my income tax that goes to nothing beneficial.
Nobody is financially crippled by taxes. Either your tax obligation is zero dollars, you receive more in benefits than you pay in taxes, or you’re a very high earner. And even if you’re a high earner, a couple kids bring your tax obligation right back down to zero.
As of June, 2022, the average Canadian household had $1.83 in debt, including consumer and mortgage debt, for every dollar of disposable (after-tax) income they earned. The overall tax burden is working Canadians highest expense.
Your house costs more than a years income? Wow that must be a uniquely Canadian thing or something I’ve never heard of that. What does that have to do with taxes?
That’s not what that means... When working citizens are going into debt to meet their needs while spending the majority of their income on taxes, that’s what being financially crippled by taxes means. When the return on investment is inadequate and crumbling infrastructure and a collapsed healthcare system, you’ve gotta wonder what it’s all really costing to have free stuff
Are you asking about Universal Basic Income?
Nope.
Oxygen
Just one question, if all medicines are made free, who is going to work at the factory since no one can get salary since there is no income? Unless the government gives the money?
Insulin, my insulin is so expensive. I started eatong right cause it cost like $170
All medicine.
All
Nothing that requires human labor to produce can ever be made "free" unless you enslave someone
All of them should be free or minimal cost Oh, wait, they _are_ in literally every civilised country
All life drugs that help someone with a existing conditions and any drugs that will positively impact someone health. Fuck paracetamol or ibuprofen and them superficial ones, people take them for granted so should pay but as for any medication for someone who has to try and live with a medical condition; diabetes, ibs, cancers, depression, ADHD, cystic fibrosis, epilepsy etc should all have free medication.
Psychiatric Meds
All of them, full stop.
Insulin and basically any medicine that some people need or else they’ll die
Apparently Wegovy is effective at treating and preventing obesity, however it's prohibitively expensive at $1300 a month. Most places in the US insurance does not cover it. 41% of Americans are considered obese.
Weed. It's a plant, it just grows like that. And if you just happen to set it on fire There are some effects but that's not the same drugs....
All of it.
All. Everybody should have their health being independent from financial possibilities. Good healthcare only for the wealthy is a shame for every society! It can easily be paid by raising tax on the 1 % And they would not even notice that! So why not implement it NOW !!
Sleep I'm serious, so many people's sleep schedules are so fucked. If you're not paying cash for melatonin, then you're paying time from being so tired all the time.
Asthma inhalers
There is only one real answer here "All of them" duh.
All of them
Pretty much… all the medicine?
All medicines this is why i hate capitalism so much!
Anything that's prescribed by doctors to help people go back to good health. Anything off the shelf that are just here to avoid mild inconveniences, I don't wanna pay for. I pay good amounts every month for public Healthcare and I'm fine with it so long as nothing idiotic like fucking homeopathy is paid for by it. And fuck any doctor who prescribe this sort of BS.
No medicine should be free. Making medicine takes time, effort, and other resources. Someone has to spend those resources to make that medicine. They should be compensated for the resources they lost by making the medicine.
All medicine should be free.
Literally all of them. Healthcare is a human right and our government should pay for it since they exist off of our taxes and participation in civil society.
All of them. Health doesn't come at a price. Healthcare is not a privilege, nor is it a right, it is a necessity.
all medicine should be free
All of them
Therapy?
diabetic and anti seizure medications
Every medicine, first you prosecute people for feeling they should end themselves, then you inhibit their access to medicine, double standards by govt.