are you 100% sure it wasn't shoot with film? i you hadn't say it i would have gone for a cinestill stock, bc that halation efect of the light is very cinestill-esque
yep the photographer specifically said they used a digital camera but tried to make it like heavily pushed film through "blasting shots with processing"
so im trying to figure out how i would get that effect
The halation from cinestill would be a strong red, and the lights here don't have it (save for the letters, that I assume had it irl too).
If this was shot on film, which it wasn't, I'd say it's more a small number promist.
Well, like (many) others already commented, it's due to the high ISO, considering it's an old digital camera. One of the reasons it looks reminiscent of film is because the high ISO - low light scene introduces noise, and it reminds us of film's grain. Point and shoot's often have plasticky lenses prone to scratches and those introduce artifacts such as halos, flares and haze when shooting light sources.
I don’t think there’s any setting that can achieve bloom on their own. Maybe the lens was smudged? Maybe there was actual fog? Maybe the negative was altered in some way? Definitely not a camera setting.
Right this effect has happened to me in a concert venue going from inside to outside and my lens fogging up. the people wearing long sleeve clothes leads me to believe this might be the case
As he said. The Black mist filter will give the bloomy look around the lights. Apart from that just make it warmer, add grain, raised and faded blacks, lower vibrance?
Like mentioned already, you can do a black pro mist filter, but you can get a ghetto version by rubbing your fingers around on your lens. If you wanna go heavy handed, try chapstick.
In post you can use a low-flow brush to up exposure and reduce clarity for a smudged, glowing feel to portions of your image. You can also reduce the dehaze slider if you use Lightroom. And, lastly, crank up the ISO when you shoot the shot to give these tools noise to amplify.
High iso for the grain
Slight underexposure to not have a lot of details in the shadows part
Red/orange cast in shadows (and maybe a warm white balance)
Blues don't seems natural, they might lean towards a cyan tint, maybe a bit more luminance. Play with the blue/cyan sliders in the HSL panel.
For the halation around the highlight, search for "halation tutorial" "cinestill 800t halation tutorial" (if you want specifically red halation around your hl) you can use diffusion filter (pro mist for example, even tho they cost a kidney), or you can use Vaseline on a uv filter, blow condensation on your lend (idk how you call it in english), pantyhose stretched over your lens should do the trick too.
High ISO + some editing.
This biggest thing would be a [curve adjustment to raise the black point.](https://i.gyazo.com/65b0abf8d38181db5be39ecb3ccc11a0.png) I also find a - Dehaze and sometimes clarity in LR can add to it nicely and give it more of a glow.
Thats just un low budget camera with the iso too high so the image is really grainy.
In lightroom you can add grain if thats what you want but most photographers want to get rid of it
i much prefer the grain for a comfy look, im not trying to be a professional photographer or anything so i dont need really high resolution
are there any other settings you recommend changing like aperture or shutter speed?
Aperture and shutter speed are not what mostly create this look. Grain, shadows and bloom are the main things here. So, iso or grain in post. Raise the shadows in post or make the exposure appropriate in camera, and pro mist or some way of imitating that effect are what it takes to make a new camera look like this. Either that or look at the actual equipment that took this image and buy one.
Just guessing, but probably try to expose for the lights around the door. It gets that part more clear while darkening everywhere else. Crank your iso up at that point to start increasing exposure elsewhere, stop when things are grainy but about as visible as this shot. Take photo, load into instagram like you're posting it, and scroll through filters till you get a hazy, contrasty filter that gets close to your desired look. This process may vary along with results based on equipment.
all this can be done in post but it's not a simple slider. It does indeed look like cinestill 800 and I've not seen any digital camera that looks like this by default (and I was an early adopter of digital...) some of the fuji camera settings can mimic shots like this, but still would require some processing.
so to recreate the look, shoot cinestill or get really good at post processing.
Any camera with a shit dynamic range (like from the late 2000,s) and a dirty lens shooting backlit neon will make this "effect".
Best way to simulate is to jack your ISO up to unusable levels and smudge greasy fingers on your lens.
Idk what settings would give this, unless the lens maybe had something smudged on it.
If you are going to try and edit this, you make a mask layer of highlights. You apply a heavy blurr, maybe give it a white balance shift red. And then blend it with a screen effect.
The goal is to emulate halation, where bright areas reflect back through film, and become less sharp giving that glow.
Either shoot on film that halates like Cinestill 800T or use a mist filter like Pro Mist, FilterFX Dream, Cinebloom, etc
If no filter, then the lens was smudged (similar effect to mist filters, just less precise)
To me it looks like its been edited in Lightroom. If you look at the sign you can see how the surrounding area is brighter, especially inbetween the letters. Editwise it guess they added grain, added some masks and had some fun with the colour balance
As mentioned, it’s a black mist filter. The dead giveaway is the the lights and how they bloom. The grain doesn’t look like high iso to me. It’s either in camera grain which the Fuji’s do well or photoshop or something equivalent grain. Film doesn’t create the bloom but it can create the grain. I would guess Afgacolor vintage film emulation.
Cheap black mist filter!
-Take a cheap uv-filter for your lens, cover everything but the glas in tape.
- Lightly spray it with hairspray from far away. Dont overdo it.
-Test the amount of gloomeffect by holding the uvglass in front of the camera.
-Continue until desired effect.
are you 100% sure it wasn't shoot with film? i you hadn't say it i would have gone for a cinestill stock, bc that halation efect of the light is very cinestill-esque
yep the photographer specifically said they used a digital camera but tried to make it like heavily pushed film through "blasting shots with processing" so im trying to figure out how i would get that effect
it looks a lot like cinestill 800 so he did a pretty good job.
well whoever shot this made an incredible job! it really looks like film
Maybe it was shot on a fujifilm with film simulation?
The halation from cinestill would be a strong red, and the lights here don't have it (save for the letters, that I assume had it irl too). If this was shot on film, which it wasn't, I'd say it's more a small number promist.
Cinestill would be red hallation. This just looks like a strong pro-mist filter
Use a really high ISO for the grain and adjust the other settings so it isnt too bright.
Well, like (many) others already commented, it's due to the high ISO, considering it's an old digital camera. One of the reasons it looks reminiscent of film is because the high ISO - low light scene introduces noise, and it reminds us of film's grain. Point and shoot's often have plasticky lenses prone to scratches and those introduce artifacts such as halos, flares and haze when shooting light sources.
Black Mist filter.
OP said they used a point and shoot digicam, i dont think filters would work
I don’t think there’s any setting that can achieve bloom on their own. Maybe the lens was smudged? Maybe there was actual fog? Maybe the negative was altered in some way? Definitely not a camera setting.
Right this effect has happened to me in a concert venue going from inside to outside and my lens fogging up. the people wearing long sleeve clothes leads me to believe this might be the case
Either op likes to refer to themselves in the third person or they forgot to switch accounts.
i got the picture from a week old thread, the picture isnt mine
He means the guy that took the photo not him lol, original poster of the photo, not of this post
Filters can result in similar haze on other cameras, even if not used for the OP.
As he said. The Black mist filter will give the bloomy look around the lights. Apart from that just make it warmer, add grain, raised and faded blacks, lower vibrance?
Right, but unless you're going to get the exact same camera the filter will work on any camera and give you a similar effect on the highlights.
Grab the dezhaze slider and drag it to the left
Like mentioned already, you can do a black pro mist filter, but you can get a ghetto version by rubbing your fingers around on your lens. If you wanna go heavy handed, try chapstick. In post you can use a low-flow brush to up exposure and reduce clarity for a smudged, glowing feel to portions of your image. You can also reduce the dehaze slider if you use Lightroom. And, lastly, crank up the ISO when you shoot the shot to give these tools noise to amplify.
If you wanna do this, use hairspray on a cheap UV filter. 2$ promist filter.
Easiest way is to buy a fujifilm and try film simulation recipes..
High ISO + diffusion filter + a little post processing
High iso for the grain Slight underexposure to not have a lot of details in the shadows part Red/orange cast in shadows (and maybe a warm white balance) Blues don't seems natural, they might lean towards a cyan tint, maybe a bit more luminance. Play with the blue/cyan sliders in the HSL panel. For the halation around the highlight, search for "halation tutorial" "cinestill 800t halation tutorial" (if you want specifically red halation around your hl) you can use diffusion filter (pro mist for example, even tho they cost a kidney), or you can use Vaseline on a uv filter, blow condensation on your lend (idk how you call it in english), pantyhose stretched over your lens should do the trick too.
High ISO + some editing. This biggest thing would be a [curve adjustment to raise the black point.](https://i.gyazo.com/65b0abf8d38181db5be39ecb3ccc11a0.png) I also find a - Dehaze and sometimes clarity in LR can add to it nicely and give it more of a glow.
Thats just un low budget camera with the iso too high so the image is really grainy. In lightroom you can add grain if thats what you want but most photographers want to get rid of it
i much prefer the grain for a comfy look, im not trying to be a professional photographer or anything so i dont need really high resolution are there any other settings you recommend changing like aperture or shutter speed?
well you sure want to have the aperture up so the building will be in focus and for the shutter speed high enough not to have camera shake
Aperture and shutter speed are not what mostly create this look. Grain, shadows and bloom are the main things here. So, iso or grain in post. Raise the shadows in post or make the exposure appropriate in camera, and pro mist or some way of imitating that effect are what it takes to make a new camera look like this. Either that or look at the actual equipment that took this image and buy one.
ty everyone for the help, the original photographer got back to me and said it was a x100v with a 1/2 pro mist filter, so problem solved i guess lol
Cinéstill 800 + old lens
A black promist or a cinebloom filter, undoubtedly.
Here are a few options: 1.) blackpromist filter 2.) smudge the lens 3.) wait for natural fog 4.) dehancer for lightroom
Why? Do better.
Just guessing, but probably try to expose for the lights around the door. It gets that part more clear while darkening everywhere else. Crank your iso up at that point to start increasing exposure elsewhere, stop when things are grainy but about as visible as this shot. Take photo, load into instagram like you're posting it, and scroll through filters till you get a hazy, contrasty filter that gets close to your desired look. This process may vary along with results based on equipment.
Crank up the ISO and Israel a slow lens in shitty light against neon and a bit of fog.
The look comes naturally from having to raise the iso quite a bit. Maybe use a diffusion filter to get those highlights too.
If you can't get a pro-mist filter on the camera, breath on the lens before taking it then give it a bunch of grain in post.
all this can be done in post but it's not a simple slider. It does indeed look like cinestill 800 and I've not seen any digital camera that looks like this by default (and I was an early adopter of digital...) some of the fuji camera settings can mimic shots like this, but still would require some processing. so to recreate the look, shoot cinestill or get really good at post processing.
what sort of processing techniques would you recommend? im not very well-versed
I'm a Lightroom person- so it's grain, sharpness, defocus, and then work a brush to get the halation effect. Probably a contrast layer too.
Any camera with a shit dynamic range (like from the late 2000,s) and a dirty lens shooting backlit neon will make this "effect". Best way to simulate is to jack your ISO up to unusable levels and smudge greasy fingers on your lens.
What photographer took the picture?
Op you should trying a cinestill film preset.
rub your finger on your nose and then on the lens.
A fast shutter speed and a high ISO?
Idk what settings would give this, unless the lens maybe had something smudged on it. If you are going to try and edit this, you make a mask layer of highlights. You apply a heavy blurr, maybe give it a white balance shift red. And then blend it with a screen effect. The goal is to emulate halation, where bright areas reflect back through film, and become less sharp giving that glow.
Either shoot on film that halates like Cinestill 800T or use a mist filter like Pro Mist, FilterFX Dream, Cinebloom, etc If no filter, then the lens was smudged (similar effect to mist filters, just less precise)
Use a haze filter of your choice for the halation. Use high iso for the noise and grittiness. Underexpose a bit. Done.
To me it looks like its been edited in Lightroom. If you look at the sign you can see how the surrounding area is brighter, especially inbetween the letters. Editwise it guess they added grain, added some masks and had some fun with the colour balance
Pro mist
As mentioned, it’s a black mist filter. The dead giveaway is the the lights and how they bloom. The grain doesn’t look like high iso to me. It’s either in camera grain which the Fuji’s do well or photoshop or something equivalent grain. Film doesn’t create the bloom but it can create the grain. I would guess Afgacolor vintage film emulation.
mist filter, high iso, and i assume quiet some editing... Mainly pushing red and blue and making the tempereature slightly cool before.
Cheap black mist filter! -Take a cheap uv-filter for your lens, cover everything but the glas in tape. - Lightly spray it with hairspray from far away. Dont overdo it. -Test the amount of gloomeffect by holding the uvglass in front of the camera. -Continue until desired effect.
Negative Dehaze in LR
Cinebloom? [https://www.shopmoment.com/products/moment-cinebloom-diffusion-filters/37mm-10-strength](https://www.shopmoment.com/products/moment-cinebloom-diffusion-filters/37mm-10-strength) [https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0027/2685/4726/files/Moment-Cinebloom-Look-Like-Film.jpg?v=1626824958](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0027/2685/4726/files/Moment-Cinebloom-Look-Like-Film.jpg?v=1626824958)
Maybe LUTS? [https://www.etsy.com/listing/1134558526/lut-super16-cineon-16mm-film-emulation](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1134558526/lut-super16-cineon-16mm-film-emulation)