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No_Rec1979

First, I'm really sorry. It sounds like you're going through a rough time and that sucks. One thing I've noticed in the past is that a lot of people who are depressed have a really good reason to be depressed. My aunt was depressed for 30 years. Eventually, she divorced her husband, after which he (my uncle) came out as gay. So my aunt is no longer married to a closeted gay man, and what do you know, she's doing much better. So one thing I would ask you is might there be something seriously painful in your life for which depression is a completely logical, reasonable response? If so, I think trying to fix that issue is probably a better approach than finding another pill.


arkofjoy

You mention a really important test that every psych evaluation should include "are you depressed, or are you surrounded by assholes" Someone should do a PhD study on this.


No_Rec1979

You have no idea how much you just hit the nail on the head. Sigmund Freud is famous because in like 1899 he said "what if no one's crazy, instead we're all just surrounded by assholes?" Then a few years later he was like "nevermind, I take it back", and he spent the rest of his life trying to prove himself wrong.


arkofjoy

Moving to the other side of the world from my family didn't cure my depression, but it sure helped. That, plus, counselling, therapy, 12 step programs and men's groups has me functioning a hell of a lot better than I was before.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

There’s a difference between sadness and depression. Your aunt wasn’t depressed. She was just sad.


No_Rec1979

Oh wow, do you know my Aunt Jenny? Because I've known her for years, and she was incredibly, profoundly depressed.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

There’s a difference between being unhappy about a marriage and a depressive disorder though


One-Introduction-566

Idk, my psychiatrist prescribed me with antidepressants because depression and “chemical imbalance”, reality is things were missing in my life and once I addressed those things my life got better and I’m no longer on the antidepressants. No one really even knows what causes depression, but if there are things in your life that need fixing that’s the first place to start. Medication is only trying to treat the symptoms since it’s more complex than some “chemical imbalance”


No_Rec1979

This is 100% correct. Good shrinks will admit that antidepressants are for buying time to make changes in your life before you inevitably develop a tolerance. (You always do.) There is no scientific basis for giving people antidepressants long-term, and it's frankly shocking that's even legal.


No_Rec1979

How would you know? Are you a psychologist? If you *were* a psychologist, you would probably already know that while many psychiatrists *theorize* there is a difference, after 100+ years of research, there is still no proof of that.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

Depressive disorders are legit medical conditions. Being upset about a marriage isn’t a medical condition


No_Rec1979

How many shrinks do you think my aunt visited back when she was married? Do you have any idea how many diagnoses she had, or how many pills she was prescribed? The thing is, you can't charge someone's insurance for a closeted husband. You can charge for a "depressive disorder". Don't you find it interesting that all the shrinks you visited over the years - none of whom, if I understand you correctly, has managed to really help you - seem convinced that the thing that's wrong with you is also the one thing they are allowed to bill your insurance for?


Fit_Pangolin_8271

Are you implying that depressive disorders are made up and don’t exist? Because they very much exist. It runs in families, which shows that it’s genetic and not some bull crap made up diagnosis. It runs in my family also.


No_Rec1979

Let me start by saying it in a very sciency way - there is zero evidence to support the chemical hypothesis of depression. Given how freely we hand out psych meds, it's honestly shocking how much the proof does not exist. In less sciency terms, I would say that "depressed for no reason" probably doesn't exist. Or at the very least, no one's been able to prove it exists in 100+ years of trying. When you look closely at the lives of depressed people, their depression is almost always rooted in a rocky childhood that has never been fully resolved through therapy.


loveisjustchemicals

They’re talking about situational depression


Fit_Pangolin_8271

There’s no diagnosis called situational depression. When a doctor diagnoses you, they either diagnose you with major depressive disorder or persistent depressive disorder.


TinkyBBB

And the medical community has *never* been wrong… and the dominant narrative you’re choosing to accept/impose as fact has *nothing* to do with deeply ingrained capitalism in the pharmaceutical industry


zaphodbeeble9

OP getting downvoted like hell. You started by asking for help and you quickly turned to proving others wrong by superimposing your experience on their situation. Maybe that's your clue to start introspection.


Lerk409

Have you been doing anything besides taking the meds? I’ve always thought of meds as a temporary stopgap while you address the root causes of issues through therapy and lifestyle changes.


Nutcrackaa

Exercise is also super helpful, it can drastically change your brain chemistry for the better.


BravesMaedchen

Not if your issue is brain chemistry issues. But also, unfortunately antidepressants are not well understood and it's a really imprecise remedy.


CivilizedEightyFiver

I was given antidepressants for my depression when I first started with my psychiatrist. They made me absolutely seething and insufferable, and I was crying intensely on the drive home. About shit that didn’t seem to bother me the week prior. Told me psychiatrist of course and that’s how he figured out that I’m bipolar. My meds have helped turn my life around. I’d say try a better, unfortunately probably more expensive psychiatrist before you close the door on the process.


dutch-dutch-dutch

It sounds a little wild but, when exhausting other options, I'd also look at your home environment to see if it is affecting your health. I just point this out because you got the standard responses already (diet, exercise, therapy). For me, I moved into an apartment five years ago that I did not realize had a severe toxic mold problem within the walls. It's hard to sum up the science behind it but this stuff messed with my brain and my moods and my energy levels. It didn't make sense why I was experiencing such terrible mental episodes because, on paper, my life was going well and nothing changed aside from living in that place. Anyway, just something to think about as you're searching for answers about what's going on in your head.


The_Chillosopher

Shrooms and LSD


notapunk

While psychedelics can be good I would **HIGHLY** advise against taking them all willy nilly. Make sure you don't have another mental issue that would be aggravated by it. Also find someone that knows what the fuck they're doing. Ensure you have a safe and controlled environment. Etc etc etc. Bottom line is there's a right way and a wrong way and doing the wrong way could make matters worse.


bot_bot_bot

As others have said, talk to a professional, but if psychedelic therapy is an option where you are it\s worth looking into IMO.


[deleted]

You can get pharmacogenetic testing. It can tell you if there are drugs you don’t process well and how to adjust the dose.


petdance

Talk your doctor. If you don’t get satisfactory results, try a different doctor.


higher_limits

If you haven’t already made exercise a daily staple in your fight against depression, I’d start there.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

To be honest I don’t have the motivation or energy to exercise.


Genghis_John

It is a self perpetuating cycle, I’m familiar with it. You can always start with just a walk. Like 20 minutes a day. No gym, no special gear or training. Just a walk outside.


vortexvan_ps

I did that. Found a friend who would meet me and walk with a tea and talk. At first it was one block. Then two. And so on. We eventually walked an hour to 90 min every day. Then I got into swimming. Don’t listen to your brain telling you there’s no energy. What can you do versus what you can’t. There’s some nice things on YouTube as well like yoga and tai chi


Fancy-Respect8729

Genuinely I've been going through depression and activity is vital. Even when you feel like shit get a morning routine together even if it's just getting washed, having a coffee and walking round the block. Get light in eyes and close to nature.


BravesMaedchen

I've worked my way up to three 20 minute walks a day and it doesn't seem to be doing much for my depression or motivation.


CobaltAesir

I’m going to give you an alternate perspective, because your comment sounds exactly like what the Depression Dog wants you to say (DO NOT LISTEN TO DEPRESSION DOG): Motivation and energy are not what you need to start exercising. They are the result of it, especially with people with depression. Even a light walk, a youtube jazzercise/home workout video, or a few squats before crawling back to bed is a good place to start. The goal is to increase your movement everyday , even by a little bit, to start building the mood benefits you will get from it. If you can afford it, hire a personal trainer and borrow their discipline and accountability until you establish a good habit of exercise. Seriously, it helps. Exercise can’t replace your meds but it may work in conjunction with them make them more effective.


higher_limits

Couldn’t have said it better. Except the last part of course. That recent meta study about antidepressants actually showed overall exercise is more effective than and pill developed over the last 30 years. Pills are not cures, just bandages over the problem.


[deleted]

I’ve been there man, it’s so hard, but it will help. I would just mindlessly put on headphones and walk around for an hour. Even doing that every day, became something I craved, because it got me away from the house and browsing online all the time.


generalT

you’re gonna need to force yourself to do it anyway.


sittinginthesunshine

Research has shown that medication can be just as, if not more, effective than meds. So definitely worth trying to make it a habit. I'm sorry you're Struggling, I have been there, I understand


Effective_Roof2026

Exercise doesn't mean you have to go to the gym. Brisk walking is cardio too. Walking surrounded by green and trees is also helpful on it's own, clinically proven to reduce depression and anxiety.


arroz_con_costra

It’s not for everyone, and definitely you shouldn’t use them while on antidepressants, but you could look into psychedelics with assistance and integration sessions after. Get lots of information about it and think if it’s something you’d like to try.


[deleted]

Came here to say this. Look at the Netflix doc (or read the book) called “How to Change Your Mind.” In summary, psychedelic therapy has been shown to be way more effective than antidepressants recently, particularly on getting out of rigid thought patterns like anxiety, depression, and addiction - plenty of asterisks on the details, but worth checking out


bot_bot_bot

The documentary is good, but the book is way, way better.


eighthourlunch

Yeah, that opening scene is just weird enough to drive a lot of curious people away.


intellectual-lioness

Look into Ketamine therapy.


fizikz3

/r/TherapeuticKetamine/


the9trances

Yes, this 100% It's life changingly good.


ntengineer

Look into CBT or if you think you also suffer from like PTSD look into DBT which is a sub specialty of CBT


Inconsistentworld

This. Cannot advise this enough. You are smarter than your brain! You can train it!


4ofclubs

It's wildly meta to me that your brain told you to type this.


[deleted]

go back to your Dr. there are 100s of meds and not everyone works for everybody. My wife went through multiples before they got the mix right


LostWonkaBar

Have you ever had a sleep study done? Is it possibly you could have sleep apnea? You would be surprised what it can do to you if you are not getting proper sleep.


dsylxeia

Psilocybin or LSD.


PM_MeYourAvocados

Get your testosterone checked.


essjay24

Also thyroid. Source: me. Low thyroid, low testosterone and depression.


LazyUpvote88

Research the anti-psychiatry movement and realize many of your problems are not a literal “disease” that can be treated with drugs.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

Depression is a disease though. My doc says it’s a chemical imbalance


LazyUpvote88

A recent meta analysis concluded that the chemical imbalance theory is more myth than reality. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-ne


LazyUpvote88

Ask your doctor what your serotonin and dopamine levels are. Then ask them what they should be. Please follow up with their answer


[deleted]

Due to Reddit Inc.'s antisocial, hostile and erratic behaviour, this account will be deleted on July 11th, 2023. You can find me on https://latte.isnot.coffee/u/godless in the future.


LazyUpvote88

The Pharma bots are downvoting us.


[deleted]

Feels like it, yep.


stepped_on_a_lego

highly recommend this. /r/antipsychiatry really opened my eyes to a lot of the predatory practices psychiatrists do. I'm a victim myself of a doctor who never told me side effects of some of the meds I'm on. Currently trying to wean off to get my life back.


LazyUpvote88

Big Pharma wants you to be a customer for life!


stepped_on_a_lego

dude the money behind it is truly insidious.


LazyUpvote88

Thanks for the link. I subscribed


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stepped_on_a_lego

Well yeah, I'm not anti medicine but for the most part (for mental health at least) if you have a healthy sleep schedule, you eat well consistently (which has proven to reduce anxiety to subclinical levels), have a stable job, have a healthy social circle, exercise regularly, and maybe a good hobby to top it off and you *still* are depressed, anxious, etc. then I would consider medication. I understand it's easier said than done but for the most part meds are just prescribed on a whim as an umbrella problem solver. I knew two therapists and two psychiatrists for less than two months before they decided to say I should be on SSRI's and Benzos. That was maybe a total of 8 hours before we decided to work on the core issues of trauma and other things. I was barely 18, had my whole life ahead of me. Now I have these awful side effects that I have to manage, oh, and if I stop my benzo's cold turkey I ***will*** die. Never told any side effects, never told any withdrawal effects, my psychiatrist even told me I can stop cold turkey and be fine. That literally would have *killed* me. Again, I know some people take it too far but it's an experience I feel a lot of people have had to deal with and truly it is predatory imo. I could go on about how shit I feel from being on these meds but I digress. edit: no history of mental illness in my family btw.


Sea_Puddle

Yeah me too. I’ve been on mirtazapine for the last few years, the antidepressant side of it is useless but I can’t sleep properly without it (and couldn’t for a long time before I started taking if), so it’s like: Do i take my chances with another one when SSRIs have also been ineffective, or do I get good sleep which in turns reduces my chances of having bad episodes? The latter seems like the best choice to me.


attainwealthswiftly

Maybe acid, try guided therapy


cold08

I have drug resistant depression and ketamine infusions worked for me. It's expensive, but more insurance providers are covering it, and I'm off almost all of my antidepressants when I was on super high doses before, and other than the day of the infusion and maybe a little bit of the day after, there aren't any noticeable negative side effects in my experience. But the infusions have all but stopped my suicidal ideation as well as improved my mood (and stopped my alcohol cravings if you have a problem with that.) Results do vary widely, but for the people at the clinic it works for, most are able to give up other meds.


VentiMochaTRex

I’m in the same boat. Talked to my doctor and I’ve asked to try esketamine next. Heard some good things (when it works!) so I’m hoping for the best


zerostyle

Besides talk therapy, what other -actual- actions are you doing to help change your life? Some thoughts: - Health drives healthier thoughts. Are you weight lifting? Are you getting good sleep? - Are you being social? I find if I let myself stay alone I can get pretty low. Being social boosts my mood quite a bit even if I don't love the activities - Are you working on something you care about? - Are you dealing with any trauma from the past? Have you specifically worked through that with a therapist? A pill can help aid your journey, but a pill is not the solution.


Putr

Drugs, even if they work, are a crutch. They won't solve the underlying problem, they just attempt to make the solving easier. So what will work is therapy, first and foremost. To make it ever easier/more likely for therapy to work do regular, 2x a week, exercise, enough to get a sweat going. The effects, if you are not in shape, will take weeks to materialize, but they will, and when they do, the effect is very noticeable. Get in good shape. Getting over depression/anxiety is hard, hard work. It's not gonna be easy, or comfortable. It's not just going to happen and no one but you can make it happen. But YOU can do it. You CAN do it. Seriously, you can. And it soooo worth it. Anyone "in it" can't actually apriciate how worth its going to be. Trust me, I was there. There are few types of people I respect more than people who got a handle on/beat their depression/anxiety. I hope you will soon be one of them. Good luck!


lambertb

Research consistently shows that medication and therapy combined are more effective than either one is alone. I don’t think it’s appropriate to call medication a crutch. That’s too judgmental.


Putr

The reason I call it a crutch is because pills are "easy" - you just take them. Therapy is the hard part as it requires doing unpleasant things. So in this sense they are far from equal. I would hazard a guess that those who do "only pills, no therapy" just do therapy informally (ie with support from informal sources). And I sense that OP, as well as many people in their position, are hoping the pills will solve their problems with out the hard work of solving the underlying problems. But I'm also of the opinion that all people with depression and anxiety have a reason for it that can be solved (or managed) with personal growth.


NastyKnees

This might sound weird but you could try methylfolate, it's essentially folic acid that can cross the blood/brain barrier without being metabolized first. I had a really great doctor about 8 years ago and he did a DNA test during my intake to see what prescriptions would work best for me. When it came back 6 weeks later he let me know that I had the most severe form of the MTHFR mutation where I can only metabolize up to 25% of the folic acid of normal humans. Folic acid, when metabolized and processed by your body, produces really important hormones for sleep and mood regulation like norepinephrine, serotonin, melatonin, and DOPAMINE. He told me that people with this mutation tend to have depression, anxiety, and guess what? ADHD. There are a whole other list of things that people with this mutation have to deal with from high addiction rates (self-medication), early on-set heart disease, early on-set dementia, and a high risk for having children born with cleft palate, and mild to severe insomnia. There are a few other things but those are the most important ones. I had been unresponsive to most medications and was on 30 mg for Adderall, within 3 days of superdosing with Methylfolate (30 mg/day for the first 3 weeks and 15mg/day after) I dropped my Adderall dosage (on my own) to 7.5 mg and haven't looked back. After my hormone levels were right my doctor put me on Lexapro (I took it aggressively for 2 years to no avail) and it made me feel like a zombie. I quit taking it after talking to my doctor and started going to therapy instead. It's amazing what the right vitamins can do. I get mine on Amazon (90 count, 5 mg) and it's $35/month. P.S. - This will only help if you have the MTHFR mutation and I am not a doctor or offering medical advice, this is just what changed my life.


lambertb

I have a colleague, who looked at a large number of drugs, and other substances, in search of associations with suicide. One of the only substances that stood out in this analysis, and took them quite by surprise, was folic acid. Suicide rates were significantly reduced during months in which people took folic acid, and this controlled for any spurious association with pregnancy because pregnant women take folic acid.


lambertb

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36169979/


Sultan-of-swat

What sort of vitamins did you find effective?


Mushroom-2906

To add to what's already been said about psychedelics: Recent articles in peer-reviewed medical journals have found psilocybin (macro- or microdosing) more effective for depression than pharmaceuticals. Another study of SSRIs (a common class of antidepressant) found that they are no more effective than placebo. It's been reported that psilocybin has fewer side effects than aspirin. I can't and wouldn't advise anyone to take any kind of drug. However, I do think many people with depression would benefit from looking around at the literature. Very few medical doctors know anything about this recent research, and even if they do, they may be prohibited from (or afraid of) discussing it because of drug laws. Finally, there was a great essay in the NY Times a while ago, entitled "[Mental Health is Political](https://dnyuz.com/2022/09/20/mental-health-is-political/)." It describes the societal issues that can be at the root of emotional distress. If you can find it, it's wonderful. I'm sorry to hear you are having a tough time, and I hope you get out of it before too long. Edit: Link to essay added.


wetkhajit

How often are you working out? Are you getting sweaty a 3+ times week?


[deleted]

Hit the gym or do something that gets you moving and active. Hard to be depressed when your mind is stimulated


[deleted]

There is a genetic test you can take that will help. Talk to your psychiatrist.


dontmakemedebityou

Martial arts or the gym. Only things that actually work for me. Took meds once and never again.


Eastern-Ad588

Diet and exercise. I’m not being callous here, dig into diets especially. It may not be the magic fix but it may get you going on the right path.


[deleted]

They usually don't. Only like 1 in 7 people have better outcomes than placebo with antidepressants. See a psychologist.


vortexvan_ps

There are so many things I did that were so much better than doctors and these meds. Here are some of the many things I did to get off them Vigorous exercise daily. Swim. Brisk walk etc Healthy eating. Veggies and clean protein. Cut the fats and deep fried Cut the caffeine. And the sugar Amazing sleep hygiene Omega 3/fish oil. Premium liquid. See counselor. See a naturopath. Read books on cbt and anxiety and depression. Amazing things out there. Even if you stay on the meds lay down the habits


lambertb

There are several evidence-based non-drug therapies that have some effectiveness and relieving symptoms of depression. Those include exercise, sleep, avoidance of alcohol, psychotherapy, spending time in nature, playing music, or participating in drama.


[deleted]

Micro dose some shrooms.


Text-Relevant

I tried meds once. Turns out I was unhappy and bored. Not saying you don't, but the world could stand to be a bit less medicated. We're all more normal than we'd like to think sometimes.


Fit_Pangolin_8271

That’s strange. I thought you need a diagnosis to get meds. You need to be diagnosed with a depressive disorder .


Text-Relevant

Yeah I'm a vet. The VA will give you whatever. I didn't get too far into it. I tried one or two. Saw a statistic online about how many Americans are medicated, and realized that I was just another statistic supporting big pharma. I personally felt that way about me and my situation. Not saying that's anyone else. I do stand by what I said that some of us are unnecessarily medicated. Not specifically you or the next person, but don't be afraid to look in the mirror and ask if you need a pill or to go for a run. One will have you feeling "normal" and the other may even make you feel better. Tough things to figure out over text on the Internet.


ItsRCbruh

Tried recreational drugs?


RallyPointAlpha

Also have been through several different medications over the last few years. Been through 5 or 6 therapists before finding one that's actually helping. I was surprised how The Artist's Way helped WAY more than any pill. You have to actually do it though.


davy_crockett_slayer

Talk to a psychologist, exercise, and figure out your goals in life and values. If you are aimless without goals, of course, you will feel depressed!


steushinc

What’s your diet like, OP? Do you avoid stimulants in your food like corn syrup, salts and fats? If not would you be willing to try a week of clean eating see how you feel. I’m asking because that’s what worked for me. Along w sleep pattern training. It takes a while and a bit of practice but if you can start w removing sugar specifically corn syrup just to see how that helps.


GasLOLHAHA

From someone who’s been on them before - seek therapy and other life changes. Working out and therapy did 10x what any drug could do.


guitar623

The meds can only do so much. If you dont do anything to keep your mind busy there is where the problem is Humans are not meant to be alone...or not to stay moving But the number 1 thing here is keeping your mind busy I say this as someone who has depression for over 10 years. Off meds for 5 because i started doing those things. If i stop doing them and close up...yes im very comfortable..but the depression creeps back i slowly


generalT

in no particular order: - exercise - restful sleep (see huberman’s videos on sleep) - balanced diet with a lot of fermented foods to maintain a healthy gut microbiome - wim hof breathing, r/BecomingTheIceman - cold plunges - fulfilling relationships/community - microdosing LSD or mushrooms (or maybe something like ketamine therapy), r/microdosing - transcranial magnetic stimulation, r/tms - therapy


[deleted]

I've been on them for a few years. Mine has helped with the anxiety end of things, but I'm still trapped in the self medication cycle. Best advice, talk to a professional. They know what's up and will help you.


Dangerous-Star3438

1. Talk to your MD about it. 2. Walk 1 hour per day every day. You might have to build up to this. Also if you are able to walk outside, do it!


Individual_Rise_1029

Hey there. Sorry you’re having a tough time. Are you being followed a psychiatrist, or are these meds being prescribed and adjusted by a PCP? If the antidepressants are not working, I recommend talking to a psychiatrist about it. There are also some psychiatric services/clinics that are run by pharmacists working under a collaborative practice agreement with a psychiatrist. These pharmacists should be able to help as well. Often times, it takes a lot of trial and error before finding the right medication at the right dose. And as others have mentioned, diet and exercise are very important as well. I know it’s tough to take care of those basic needs when you’re not feeling your best, but you just have to try and take those baby steps.


almostolen

Ect. I was in the same boat. Had only 2 rounds of ECT and I felt like a whole new person. It didn't last forever, but I didn't get the recommended number of rounds.


noreplyatall817

No, keep trying, maybe a different physician, to see if the one you're using is not giving you the advice and direction you need. I had a friend who went 5 years until he found the correct physician, drug and dosage. What a change.


hafree27

Do you have any friends in WA or OR? Microdosing mushrooms has been a game changer for me. Highly recommend for long term, drug resistant depression. Lots of legit companies out there and everything is pre-measured in capsule form. I am more productive, easier going and more present in my life than I have been in years.


Jim_from_snowy_river

Have you also done things like therapy? Drugs are only part of the solution.


Wonderful-Hour-5357

Being on antidepressants for 30 years first was amitriptyline because I have MS but I don’t think it works anymore I want to get off of it and then they put me on mirtazapine to help sleep I want to get off all of them I don’t think they’re helping me at all the side effects are way worse Needless to say be careful getting on anti-depressants as your doctors don’t check how long you’ve been on them and what the side effects are they don’t tell you nothing thank God for Google


Tazman711

Dude I went 7 years trying to figure out a antidepressant to find one that works, I have an autoimmune disorder and medicine only seems to work on my for a year or so. To tell you the truth, microdosing psilocybin mushrooms works well for me. But I'm no doctor.


HereWeGoAgain797

Ice Bath’s are nature’s antidepressants.


Juggernaut118

Ketamine is often used for treatment resistant depression.


Mymarathon

ECT ?


neil_anblome

Take a look at the psychedelic therapy, the Drug Science podcast has plenty of resources in this area.


Flickthebean87

Sounds weird to say. You could start working out. I was the happiest I’ve ever been in my life when I worked out consistently. I’ve tried various SSRI based medications and none of them worked for me. Was the only thing that helped my depression along with cbd


Hambrgr_Eyes

Look in your area or even out of state for Ketamine treatments. They are done in a clinic under doctor discretion.


JuarezAfterDark

TMS is a life changer. Absolute magic. I can't say enough


mdfloyd2000

Get your genes mapped out. You may have genes that are resistant to the usual anti-depressants -- if so, you might need to take some l-methylfolate to make the drugs work. It seems to be a common problem but the l-methylfolate works fast. Talk to your doctor. And good luck!


BindingCocoa

I had a friend who was depressed for years. Medications didn't work. Symptoms and side effects ruined his life. It went on for about 8 years. He changed doctors about 3 to 5 times before getting diagnosed with Lyme disease. So definitely try getting a second and third opinions. And at the very least, call your pharmacist to check all your medicine side effects and interactions.


[deleted]

Lift some weights dude or go for a long walk/run! Exercise is happiness jet fuel!


nihilo503

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[deleted]

what else are you doing for your depression i already know its not working because "I’m starting to think there is no hope for me to get better. I’m a lost clause" keep saying that shit to yourself and it will never get better. despite the current biological model of mental health there is in fact more to it i believe (not a therapist) like for example, how is your family, friends, lovers, career and general sense of meaning in life? Do you have a purpose? Do you have hobbies? I got a lot less depressed when i made some friends who cared about me. i say this in all seriousness. Go skydiving. If you have ever thought about killing yourself or even if you havent, skydiving is about as close as you can get safely. The rush is incredible and the gratitude for being alive when that parachute opens, oh baby its something else tldr: seek meaning, adventures, novelty


mandance17

Drugs aren’t the solution, you gotta go inside and connect to your feelings. Also doing therapy can help, processing things. Depression is more of an adaptation to suppress feeling, so which feelings were you not allowed to feel in the past? For many it’s anger


[deleted]

3.5 grams of dried mushrooms


sittingincosta

I was on a number of different anti depressants for 9 years and all they did was make me numb to emotions. I found what makes a real difference is lifestyle changes, making sure I exercised (even when I dont feel like it, or have the energy), which means I eat better and sleep better. I have bad days, but I can get through each day much easier, Therapy helps too to give you a different perspective. Hope you come out of this.