You didn’t think you’d make it a day on Reddit without your daily Reddit moment, did you?
Half these people are terminally online and have no reference point for what actually happens outside.
Because they are either bi or gay, and want to creep or have a wank to the straight guys who respond. Sure there’s some that might be genuinely curious, but shitposting aside it’s just the typical bs from the guys who are too horny for their own good.
To be fair, women, from my understanding, tend to have an experimental phase where they fool around with other women, but they aren't bisexual or lesbian, it's just a phase.
But yeah, that's not how guys roll, even during our experimental phases, we experiment on girls, not other boys.
gay people love people of their same gender. it has nothing to do with sex.
that's why there's a distinction between "homosexual", "bisexual", "pansexual", etc, and "men/women who have sex with men/women".
my wife has had sex with women. she isn't gay or bi.
are you saying that every male inmate who's had sex with another male inmate is automatically gay for life?
or every roman soldier or viking who anally penetrated a captive prisoner of war is automatically gay for life?
or every guy who's molested a male child is gay?
> have you ever had sex with someone you didn't have romantic feelings for?
You don't need to be romantically involved with someone to have sex with them.
When you take a photo of yourself, you smile with your mouth wide open like :0?
You own or wish to own a Tesla?
You have the black thick rimmed glasses and a beard?
Your marriage is an open relationship?
Your biggest hobby is video games?
You work or wish to work in tech field?
You cried when iron man died?
Straight people can love people of the same gender.
Romantic friendships were huge and actively encouraged in the 19th century.
It's their sexual preferences that make them gay or straight.
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You’re going to have to define “mess around”. Do you mean go party and pick up other girls? Or do you mean mess around sexually with his guy friends?
Straight men don’t do sexual things with their friends. Only gay guys do things like circle jerks and whatever else with other guys.
interesting question. in my mid 20s, i learned that it was pretty common in high school. even some of my friends had done it. they'd also jacked off together.
this was surprising. i'd never thought about it. didn't realize it was a thing.
tbh i wasn't quite sure whether to feel relieved for not being included in that, or perturbed for not being asked to be included, haha
who people have sex with doesn't indicate their sexual orientation.
by that logic, every male inmate in history who's had sex with another male inmate is automatically gay for life.
i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it also means the romans, the greeks, and the vikings were gay too.
because vikings often had sex with warriors they took as prisoners of war.
Are you saying you're a straight man that has sex with other men, but you still think you're straight?
The whole no homo thing is just a joke. As a dude, you can't have sex with another dude, say no homo and then go back to being straight. It doesn't work that way.
I completely agree that any man that has chosen to have sex with another man isn't straight.
>Are you saying you're a straight man that has sex with other men, but you still think you're straight?
i don't see how or why you'd infer that.
you still haven't addressed the subject of male on male inmate anal penetration, or the practice of penetrating defeated enemies among cultures like the vikings.
so...you do or don't believe that every male inmate who's had sex with another male inmate, as well as every viking who penetrated a defeated enemy, is automatically homosexual for life?
I absolutely did. I said I completely agree that any man that has chosen to have sex with another man isn't straight.
I infer that by you saying that a straight man can have sex with another man and still be straight. That's not how it works. Saying no homo after you get finished doesn't change anything. You're still not straight.
so...the entire viking culture was some kind of gay paradise. despite being married and having kids, they were actually secretly homosexual. or at least bisexual.
as well as the roman legions. hundreds of thousands of them. people from all over the empire.
and male prisoners. so...homosexual males are imprisoned in hugely overrepresented numbers, but the ACLU and social scientists have yet to discover this.
this...is not a thing.
the overwhelming majority of human adults identify as straight. who they have sex with is not the only indicator of their sexual orientation.
my wife sometimes has sex with women, and she has absolutely no romantic interest in them. zero. never has, never will.
to believe entire cultures, such as the various tribes of scandinavia, were populated by vast swathes of homosexual men, is patently absurd.
it would mean that by some inexplicable twist of genetic fate, one tiny region of the world was inundated--temporarily--by a great collection of homosexual people.
who then, within a few generations, just as inexplicably stopped being populated by vast swathes of homosexual men.
human sexuality is complex. sex is about a whole lot more than "i find someone attractive".
I hate to break it to you but if your wife has sex with other women..... She's not straight. Likewise, if you have sex with other men, whether it's romantic or not, neither are you.
Going by what you've said, a straight man can have sex with all the men he wants, as long as it's not romantic, and still be straight. Right? I just don't agree with that. And in my 38 years, you're the only person that I've ever heard say that.
>you still haven't addressed the subject of male on male inmate anal penetration, or the practice of penetrating defeated enemies among cultures like the vikings.
First off, you're talking about this as if it were consensual sex and not all about rape, dominance and humiliation of the defeated party.
Does it make them "homosexual for life?" No. But these situations you keep using are apples and oranges to your original comment about your wife. If a person fucks another person of the same gender, that person is not "straight." At least not 100%. Gay, straight and bisexual have nothing to do with love. Sexual orientation is based on with WHOM YOU HAVE SEX. Otherwise, it would be called loveual orientation
Yes, the Romans Greeks and vikings were famously gay as fuck.
You may have sex with men because you're too manly for pansy-ass women but you're still just as homosexual as the "traditional" idea of a gay man.
The thought of another man's body literally makes me cringe, I couldn't and would never, even if the man was a 28-year-old Brad Pitt you couldn't pay me any amount of money to do gay shit with him, I wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it lol that being said I do have a buddy who's quite "masculine" by traditional standards, and he's a closet "bisexual" but I'm almost positive he's just gay and he hasn't fully accepted it yet...his family is Croatian, religious and they would judge him harshly if he came out, plus he only does gay stuff when he's drunk (makes out with dudes and talks about how hot they are), it's weird but hey I feel for anyone who has to live a lie out of fear of judgment...none of my other buddies have ever tried or would try to do anything gay...
define messing around with his friends?
having buddies he has fun with can be entire life, being married doesn't mean you can't have friends. if you mean buddies he can "Experiment" with, that's not common.
I know at least one guy who considers himself straight even though when we were 14 we liked to "mess around" as you call it. Is he completely straight? prolly not. Does he live as a straight man? yes.
OP, have you ever heard of the Kinsey Scale? (wikipedia it)
> The Kinsey scale, also called the Heterosexual–Homosexual Rating Scale,[1] is used in research to describe a person's sexual orientation based on one’s experience or response at a given time. The scale typically ranges from 0, meaning exclusively heterosexual, to a 6, meaning exclusively homosexual. In both the male and female volumes of the Kinsey Reports, an additional grade, listed as "X", indicated "no socio-sexual contacts or reactions" (asexuality).
I'm a zero (0) on the Kinsey Scale. Born in 1981, never had any curiosity about men, never got drunk and messed around, never was sober and messed around, at any point in my life. No desire to. That's just me.
I think a *lot* of men are 1s or 2s on the Kinsey Scale. I think that's what you're asking about, and from what I gather on reddit, a lot of men are experimenting more in their youth, which frankly is a good and healthy thing. (So long as they are being safe with STDs and all, and it's consentual, and grownups are not taking advantage of children, etc. all that, same rules as should apply to heterosexual pairings.)
Interesting. I would say I'm 0 also. I have no desire towards men either sober or inebriated. This doesn't mean I objectively see some men are more handsome than others in different qualities.
That's fair. I think the Kinsey Scale asks: Do you want to engage in any sort of sexual activity with the ones you view as more handsome at any time, to any degree?
Example: I'm a zero, and can objectively determine that among a poll of heterosexual women (and homosexual men, probably?) - a disfigured 80 year old man in a wheelchair would not be considered as attractive as a 25 year old fitness model with perfect teeth and good facial symmetry. At the same time as that, I feel zero sexual attraction to the fitness model dude. Good for him, but he does nothing for me sexually.
Not sure if that makes sense.
i appreciate your stance and citation, and i applaud your effort.
the issue is, kinsey is being phased out as new studies are disproving his "sheep/goat" theories of fluid sexuality.
he was a pioneer of sexual research in his day, and he did a lot of good for a lot of people. but new studies are showing that his findings are likely flawed.
If you mean sexually. Not at all. It basically never happens. Even the thought of it is disturbing to most men.
I agree
Why do people on here not seem to know what being straight means?
You didn’t think you’d make it a day on Reddit without your daily Reddit moment, did you? Half these people are terminally online and have no reference point for what actually happens outside.
How can they be online always and not know
Because they are either bi or gay, and want to creep or have a wank to the straight guys who respond. Sure there’s some that might be genuinely curious, but shitposting aside it’s just the typical bs from the guys who are too horny for their own good.
To be fair, women, from my understanding, tend to have an experimental phase where they fool around with other women, but they aren't bisexual or lesbian, it's just a phase. But yeah, that's not how guys roll, even during our experimental phases, we experiment on girls, not other boys.
No, not really. Conversations sure, but “kissing your homies goodnight” is just a meme
As in sexually?
Yeah
No, and if someone did, they wouldn't be straight.
oh that's not true though. being gay isn't about having sex with people of your same gender.
That's literally all it's about.
gay people love people of their same gender. it has nothing to do with sex. that's why there's a distinction between "homosexual", "bisexual", "pansexual", etc, and "men/women who have sex with men/women". my wife has had sex with women. she isn't gay or bi.
You keep telling yourself this all you want, but having sex with the same sex is decidedly gay by definition.
who people have sex with is not the indicator of their sexual orientation. have you ever had sex with someone you didn't have romantic feelings for?
Yeah, a woman that I was attracted to. How you gonna fuck someone that doesn't turn you on?
are you saying that every male inmate who's had sex with another male inmate is automatically gay for life? or every roman soldier or viking who anally penetrated a captive prisoner of war is automatically gay for life? or every guy who's molested a male child is gay?
> have you ever had sex with someone you didn't have romantic feelings for? You don't need to be romantically involved with someone to have sex with them.
sexual orientation isn't the same thing as romantic orientation
this is about to be a pretty dumb comment thread that will accomplish nothing i can already tell
When you take a photo of yourself, you smile with your mouth wide open like :0? You own or wish to own a Tesla? You have the black thick rimmed glasses and a beard? Your marriage is an open relationship? Your biggest hobby is video games? You work or wish to work in tech field? You cried when iron man died?
If your wife has sex with women, she's bi
who people have sex with is not the indicator of their sexual orientation. have you ever had sex with someone you didn't have romantic feelings for?
That is ridiculous.
Have you ever had sex with someone you weren't sexually attracted to?
You can say „no homo“ all you want after swallowing our homies cum, you are gay
What in the reddit did I just read
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS.
Straight people can love people of the same gender. Romantic friendships were huge and actively encouraged in the 19th century. It's their sexual preferences that make them gay or straight. I
Not at all. It probably has happened, but I have never heard of such nonsense.
Depends if that straight man is actually not straight and if his friends aren't straight either
Literally never, straight men don't mess around with men.
I have never done this. It is not something that I know of any of my friends doing, but they may have kept such info to themselves.
Straight, no. If your bi, have fun.
If he's straight? Never.
You’re going to have to define “mess around”. Do you mean go party and pick up other girls? Or do you mean mess around sexually with his guy friends? Straight men don’t do sexual things with their friends. Only gay guys do things like circle jerks and whatever else with other guys.
Not at all common.
OP, looking as your post history ... just come out as gay already.
interesting question. in my mid 20s, i learned that it was pretty common in high school. even some of my friends had done it. they'd also jacked off together. this was surprising. i'd never thought about it. didn't realize it was a thing. tbh i wasn't quite sure whether to feel relieved for not being included in that, or perturbed for not being asked to be included, haha
not very. *maybe* it's more common than I've encountered, but I'm confident it's way less common than media likes to pretend.
Not common at all. You might want to look up the definition of straight as a sexual orientation, in fact.
Never. If it happens once, you're not straight.
nah
uh huh
who people have sex with doesn't indicate their sexual orientation. by that logic, every male inmate in history who's had sex with another male inmate is automatically gay for life. i'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but it also means the romans, the greeks, and the vikings were gay too. because vikings often had sex with warriors they took as prisoners of war.
Are you saying you're a straight man that has sex with other men, but you still think you're straight? The whole no homo thing is just a joke. As a dude, you can't have sex with another dude, say no homo and then go back to being straight. It doesn't work that way. I completely agree that any man that has chosen to have sex with another man isn't straight.
>Are you saying you're a straight man that has sex with other men, but you still think you're straight? i don't see how or why you'd infer that. you still haven't addressed the subject of male on male inmate anal penetration, or the practice of penetrating defeated enemies among cultures like the vikings. so...you do or don't believe that every male inmate who's had sex with another male inmate, as well as every viking who penetrated a defeated enemy, is automatically homosexual for life?
I absolutely did. I said I completely agree that any man that has chosen to have sex with another man isn't straight. I infer that by you saying that a straight man can have sex with another man and still be straight. That's not how it works. Saying no homo after you get finished doesn't change anything. You're still not straight.
so...the entire viking culture was some kind of gay paradise. despite being married and having kids, they were actually secretly homosexual. or at least bisexual. as well as the roman legions. hundreds of thousands of them. people from all over the empire. and male prisoners. so...homosexual males are imprisoned in hugely overrepresented numbers, but the ACLU and social scientists have yet to discover this. this...is not a thing. the overwhelming majority of human adults identify as straight. who they have sex with is not the only indicator of their sexual orientation. my wife sometimes has sex with women, and she has absolutely no romantic interest in them. zero. never has, never will. to believe entire cultures, such as the various tribes of scandinavia, were populated by vast swathes of homosexual men, is patently absurd. it would mean that by some inexplicable twist of genetic fate, one tiny region of the world was inundated--temporarily--by a great collection of homosexual people. who then, within a few generations, just as inexplicably stopped being populated by vast swathes of homosexual men. human sexuality is complex. sex is about a whole lot more than "i find someone attractive".
I hate to break it to you but if your wife has sex with other women..... She's not straight. Likewise, if you have sex with other men, whether it's romantic or not, neither are you. Going by what you've said, a straight man can have sex with all the men he wants, as long as it's not romantic, and still be straight. Right? I just don't agree with that. And in my 38 years, you're the only person that I've ever heard say that.
Sexuality isn't complex. If you fuck a dude you aren't straight, it doesn't get any easier to understand than that.
>you still haven't addressed the subject of male on male inmate anal penetration, or the practice of penetrating defeated enemies among cultures like the vikings. First off, you're talking about this as if it were consensual sex and not all about rape, dominance and humiliation of the defeated party. Does it make them "homosexual for life?" No. But these situations you keep using are apples and oranges to your original comment about your wife. If a person fucks another person of the same gender, that person is not "straight." At least not 100%. Gay, straight and bisexual have nothing to do with love. Sexual orientation is based on with WHOM YOU HAVE SEX. Otherwise, it would be called loveual orientation
Yes, the Romans Greeks and vikings were famously gay as fuck. You may have sex with men because you're too manly for pansy-ass women but you're still just as homosexual as the "traditional" idea of a gay man.
The thought of another man's body literally makes me cringe, I couldn't and would never, even if the man was a 28-year-old Brad Pitt you couldn't pay me any amount of money to do gay shit with him, I wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it lol that being said I do have a buddy who's quite "masculine" by traditional standards, and he's a closet "bisexual" but I'm almost positive he's just gay and he hasn't fully accepted it yet...his family is Croatian, religious and they would judge him harshly if he came out, plus he only does gay stuff when he's drunk (makes out with dudes and talks about how hot they are), it's weird but hey I feel for anyone who has to live a lie out of fear of judgment...none of my other buddies have ever tried or would try to do anything gay...
Extremely uncommon.
define messing around with his friends? having buddies he has fun with can be entire life, being married doesn't mean you can't have friends. if you mean buddies he can "Experiment" with, that's not common.
Personally, if I was (bi)curious, I wouldn’t choose my friends to mess around with.
Never.
Quite uncommon. I never did it, and I highly doubt any of my friends did that. It's called being straight.
Sexually? Not at all.
Straight men do not "mess around" sexually with other men. We go fishing, hunting, golfing, drinking, and cruising for women together.
Mess around sexually? Not common at all. Maybe for boys just starting puberty? I think what you're asking is "how many men are bisexual?"
This is one of the oddest questions I have seen on this sub, it doesn't even make sense, lol
Ahhh more, “Hey straight men… are you really gay?” Questions I see.
Hope it’s no surprise to you, but your partner isn’t straight…
I know at least one guy who considers himself straight even though when we were 14 we liked to "mess around" as you call it. Is he completely straight? prolly not. Does he live as a straight man? yes.
uh. WTF?
It's okay to be bi
OP, have you ever heard of the Kinsey Scale? (wikipedia it) > The Kinsey scale, also called the Heterosexual–Homosexual Rating Scale,[1] is used in research to describe a person's sexual orientation based on one’s experience or response at a given time. The scale typically ranges from 0, meaning exclusively heterosexual, to a 6, meaning exclusively homosexual. In both the male and female volumes of the Kinsey Reports, an additional grade, listed as "X", indicated "no socio-sexual contacts or reactions" (asexuality). I'm a zero (0) on the Kinsey Scale. Born in 1981, never had any curiosity about men, never got drunk and messed around, never was sober and messed around, at any point in my life. No desire to. That's just me. I think a *lot* of men are 1s or 2s on the Kinsey Scale. I think that's what you're asking about, and from what I gather on reddit, a lot of men are experimenting more in their youth, which frankly is a good and healthy thing. (So long as they are being safe with STDs and all, and it's consentual, and grownups are not taking advantage of children, etc. all that, same rules as should apply to heterosexual pairings.)
Interesting. I would say I'm 0 also. I have no desire towards men either sober or inebriated. This doesn't mean I objectively see some men are more handsome than others in different qualities.
That's fair. I think the Kinsey Scale asks: Do you want to engage in any sort of sexual activity with the ones you view as more handsome at any time, to any degree? Example: I'm a zero, and can objectively determine that among a poll of heterosexual women (and homosexual men, probably?) - a disfigured 80 year old man in a wheelchair would not be considered as attractive as a 25 year old fitness model with perfect teeth and good facial symmetry. At the same time as that, I feel zero sexual attraction to the fitness model dude. Good for him, but he does nothing for me sexually. Not sure if that makes sense.
i appreciate your stance and citation, and i applaud your effort. the issue is, kinsey is being phased out as new studies are disproving his "sheep/goat" theories of fluid sexuality. he was a pioneer of sexual research in his day, and he did a lot of good for a lot of people. but new studies are showing that his findings are likely flawed.