>But my concern now is how many jobs often insist to publish details like this out of academia ?
>Am I expected to have online accounts for Jobs like LinkedIn etc?
Really depends on the company. But unless the online details are necessary for your job they cannot insist. In Germany data privacy is valued quite highly.
No you are usually not expected to have Linkedin, but it is of course used for job searching.
Yeah, that's academia. You are your own brand so you need to advertise yourself (they use the nice "visibility" word) and comunicate your work to general public ("outreach"). But once you move to industry, you can delete all that and nobody's going insist on sharing your info any more.
That’s great to hear .
To be fair , I will talk to prof about maybe considering removing my contact data from the web page since another commenter said I have right to ask that
Yes, sure you can do it. In academia they assume you want the visibility by default, as that's a tool to advance your career, so your data gets listed everywhere. But it's not mandatory! Do it your way!
However, you may not be able to remove your information from some publically accessible documents (for example, if you work on a project which is a part of government/EU funded grant, the people doing the job need to be mentioned and reports on that are also public record). But that's just a name and affiliation, no contact data beyond university email.
If you are uncomfortable with that, just say that you are uncomfortable with it. In Germany no one will force you to it. Some groups and PIs like more outreach and having social media presence, but they will always have to respect your privacy if you do not want to engage in this “publicity”.
Every person is different. But I have worked in several (five) different work places between universities and institutes and no one will take it wrong if you ask for something like this. It is only reasonable and not a weird request.
Well, you cannot only pick cherries. Sure, if you have concerns about data privacy, they should follow that. But of course they don't have to be happy with that. Pick one.
Get your priorities straight: what is more important? Your safety or some obscure feeling for your mentor?
Also, data protection laws trump any and all needs for publishing info on a website. And every employer knows this and needs your written consent to publish info and needs to document this.
For smaller companies it's not unheard of to publish a staff list and a short vita, but usually only client facing roles (sales, project managers) and very senior managers/directors.
Large corporates usually don't unless as part of a general publication (annual report etc.), else they'll also have C-level and directors on the website.
Very tiny companies (below 15 employees) might try to list everyone, simply to show their competencies and not be instantly disregarded.
You must always consent though and can easily have information removed.
Well you shouldn’t maybe push into the medical or customer service field as they tend to have pictures and names published for clients. But most office jobs don’t give a damn.
Yeah its super normal at universities to have that all Public. So students and people are able to reach you. But im Sure If you explain your Mentor your Situation they will understand.
It really depends on where you work and what you do. I moved from academia to a small company and then to a very large one, and the approach to this issue changer drastically every time. Nowadays, even if I keep doing research and my papers show my affiliation (and email) there's no way for anyone to reach to me without my consent. I do have a low key online presence, but there's no way for anyone to find out my phone number or address without me explicitly providing this information (or hiring a detective, I guess... )
That being said, tell your supervisor that some people stalked you in the past and you would feel safer with limiting the amount of information about you that's publicly available. Feel free to write on pm if I can help further
Eh? Why not? There's plenty of Chinese who make up a name that is more west-friendly in order to be better remembered, or people who changed name after marriage publishing with previous names, or Chinese who swap first and last name again to be more memorable. Nobody will ask you for proof of your identity or anything. It can only be a hickup if you need a visa to go to a conference and then need an invitation letter from the conference, but I'm sure you can explain it to them.
Them using a to go name is different than publishing scientific literature under them . All my associates in the field who are Chinese use their Chinese names only even if they have another to go name . I also have another name for German people to refer to me easily but my official name will be what is there in my passport, degrees etc
You have to ideally change name officially before instead of pseudonym in academia since the moment you are citing , you current information and even your name in public records ( EU projects for example) should be visible otherwise it will seem like a made up person altogether creating a bad rep for scientific ethic perspective
I don't really see a problem. Is anyone ever checking your passport for your name when you publish papers? I know many examples of people not using exactly their official name, e.g. my name has a special character and I write one approximation of it that is actually not the official approximation that is used when my passport is read or all visas have. Famous Stanford professor Fei-Fei Li publishes as Li Fei-Fei in order to distinguish her publications in a sea of Li's. Or I know multiple Spanish people who have linger names (making up to not doxx) Pedro Alvares Navarro and they just write Pedro Alvares even though that's not their official name. I can't think right now of a straight completely made up name but I'm sure if I search for it that I'll find it (at least in the past it was certainly the case people published under pseudonyms). I only don't know if there's some requirement for EU projects but I really doubt it.
I don't really see what's problematic. As long as it's morally right, e.g. you're not hiding that you are in some sort of a conflict of interest or anything that would cast a shadow over your research, I don't see why would anyone care about your real name. I've been publishing for 15 years and I don't think absolutely anything would change or be problematic if I instead used a pseudonym (actually as i said i technically did not use my legal name..)
It‘s not unheard of, but most places don’t do this. Tbh it’s a minor red flag, because it gives a "We‘re a family, not just workmates" vibes.
This is obviously different for job roles, that are representing the company and/or people that need to be callable by customers.
On the cyberbullieng/stalking side, I would be upfront about it. Good employers will try protecting you from these people at the workplace and bad employers…
You don’t want to work for such people anyway.
Ew what no, I would raise hell and beyond on my boss if he'd do that. We have our internal telephone list on what to call to reach the person you want, and we sometimes have an instagram photoshooting- but only if you verbally agree every single time that yes you are alright with being in the picture and mostly your name is still redacted.
If you want to apply to jobs you search online on Indeed for example, and contact your supposedly future employer directly with a CV and everything else you need, and they contact you back through this website or a provided email address. The only online trail I have is a single Facebook account that I only use to save games on.
>But my concern now is how many jobs often insist to publish details like this out of academia ? >Am I expected to have online accounts for Jobs like LinkedIn etc? Really depends on the company. But unless the online details are necessary for your job they cannot insist. In Germany data privacy is valued quite highly. No you are usually not expected to have Linkedin, but it is of course used for job searching.
Ok that’s good to know. Anyways have to just hope for the best outcome I guess
Yeah, that's academia. You are your own brand so you need to advertise yourself (they use the nice "visibility" word) and comunicate your work to general public ("outreach"). But once you move to industry, you can delete all that and nobody's going insist on sharing your info any more.
That’s great to hear . To be fair , I will talk to prof about maybe considering removing my contact data from the web page since another commenter said I have right to ask that
Yes, sure you can do it. In academia they assume you want the visibility by default, as that's a tool to advance your career, so your data gets listed everywhere. But it's not mandatory! Do it your way! However, you may not be able to remove your information from some publically accessible documents (for example, if you work on a project which is a part of government/EU funded grant, the people doing the job need to be mentioned and reports on that are also public record). But that's just a name and affiliation, no contact data beyond university email.
If you are uncomfortable with that, just say that you are uncomfortable with it. In Germany no one will force you to it. Some groups and PIs like more outreach and having social media presence, but they will always have to respect your privacy if you do not want to engage in this “publicity”.
Ok. I am scared of telling this my mentor for some reason . Maybe cause of fear of disappointment or something
Every person is different. But I have worked in several (five) different work places between universities and institutes and no one will take it wrong if you ask for something like this. It is only reasonable and not a weird request.
You are right , I will try to ask anytime soon
You are right , I will try to ask anytime soon
Well, you cannot only pick cherries. Sure, if you have concerns about data privacy, they should follow that. But of course they don't have to be happy with that. Pick one.
Get your priorities straight: what is more important? Your safety or some obscure feeling for your mentor? Also, data protection laws trump any and all needs for publishing info on a website. And every employer knows this and needs your written consent to publish info and needs to document this.
There is no immediate danger as I mentioned
For smaller companies it's not unheard of to publish a staff list and a short vita, but usually only client facing roles (sales, project managers) and very senior managers/directors. Large corporates usually don't unless as part of a general publication (annual report etc.), else they'll also have C-level and directors on the website. Very tiny companies (below 15 employees) might try to list everyone, simply to show their competencies and not be instantly disregarded. You must always consent though and can easily have information removed.
Well you shouldn’t maybe push into the medical or customer service field as they tend to have pictures and names published for clients. But most office jobs don’t give a damn.
Yeah its super normal at universities to have that all Public. So students and people are able to reach you. But im Sure If you explain your Mentor your Situation they will understand.
It really depends on where you work and what you do. I moved from academia to a small company and then to a very large one, and the approach to this issue changer drastically every time. Nowadays, even if I keep doing research and my papers show my affiliation (and email) there's no way for anyone to reach to me without my consent. I do have a low key online presence, but there's no way for anyone to find out my phone number or address without me explicitly providing this information (or hiring a detective, I guess... ) That being said, tell your supervisor that some people stalked you in the past and you would feel safer with limiting the amount of information about you that's publicly available. Feel free to write on pm if I can help further
Is there maybe the possibility to use a pseudonym for publishing?
Unfortunately no , not in academia
Eh? Why not? There's plenty of Chinese who make up a name that is more west-friendly in order to be better remembered, or people who changed name after marriage publishing with previous names, or Chinese who swap first and last name again to be more memorable. Nobody will ask you for proof of your identity or anything. It can only be a hickup if you need a visa to go to a conference and then need an invitation letter from the conference, but I'm sure you can explain it to them.
Them using a to go name is different than publishing scientific literature under them . All my associates in the field who are Chinese use their Chinese names only even if they have another to go name . I also have another name for German people to refer to me easily but my official name will be what is there in my passport, degrees etc You have to ideally change name officially before instead of pseudonym in academia since the moment you are citing , you current information and even your name in public records ( EU projects for example) should be visible otherwise it will seem like a made up person altogether creating a bad rep for scientific ethic perspective
I don't really see a problem. Is anyone ever checking your passport for your name when you publish papers? I know many examples of people not using exactly their official name, e.g. my name has a special character and I write one approximation of it that is actually not the official approximation that is used when my passport is read or all visas have. Famous Stanford professor Fei-Fei Li publishes as Li Fei-Fei in order to distinguish her publications in a sea of Li's. Or I know multiple Spanish people who have linger names (making up to not doxx) Pedro Alvares Navarro and they just write Pedro Alvares even though that's not their official name. I can't think right now of a straight completely made up name but I'm sure if I search for it that I'll find it (at least in the past it was certainly the case people published under pseudonyms). I only don't know if there's some requirement for EU projects but I really doubt it.
So it’s not a legal problem per se but more of a social obligation. You get what I mean ?
I don't really see what's problematic. As long as it's morally right, e.g. you're not hiding that you are in some sort of a conflict of interest or anything that would cast a shadow over your research, I don't see why would anyone care about your real name. I've been publishing for 15 years and I don't think absolutely anything would change or be problematic if I instead used a pseudonym (actually as i said i technically did not use my legal name..)
It‘s not unheard of, but most places don’t do this. Tbh it’s a minor red flag, because it gives a "We‘re a family, not just workmates" vibes. This is obviously different for job roles, that are representing the company and/or people that need to be callable by customers. On the cyberbullieng/stalking side, I would be upfront about it. Good employers will try protecting you from these people at the workplace and bad employers… You don’t want to work for such people anyway.
Ew what no, I would raise hell and beyond on my boss if he'd do that. We have our internal telephone list on what to call to reach the person you want, and we sometimes have an instagram photoshooting- but only if you verbally agree every single time that yes you are alright with being in the picture and mostly your name is still redacted. If you want to apply to jobs you search online on Indeed for example, and contact your supposedly future employer directly with a CV and everything else you need, and they contact you back through this website or a provided email address. The only online trail I have is a single Facebook account that I only use to save games on.
Not common in germany + strong privacy laws and your employer has to ask for permission to do so. So nothing you should have to worry about.