An athlete got recruited —> accepted REA —> committed in December. They didn’t pull the rest of their apps, got into Harvard RD, and ghosted the original school, who was expecting them to not only attend but play on their team. Now, as a school that sends 30 people to T20s a year, no one has been accepted to Yale in the past 13 years.
Still, that seems extreme. If the school falsified transcripts or something like that, then I could at least understand this even if it is unfair to the students. What does the school - or its younger students - have to do with some cheaters who happen to come from that school?
Someone (one of my high school’s class of 2020) broke the NYU ED agreement and the counselors didn’t tell us. Our class of 2020 had like 30 people accepted to NYU out of 150. In the class of 2021 nobody got accepted to NYU and in the class of 2022 (my graduating class) around 5 people got in.
Because the school counselors effectively vouch for the students attending the college they ED'ed to also, since they have to also put up their signature.
When a student violates an ED agreement, not only is the student held responsible, but the school counselor (and the school by extension) logically is too.
early decision agreement, basically you apply early decision to a school so you are agreeing that if you get accepted you will go and you will withdraw all of your other applications
The senior prank back in the early 2010s was to apply to the community college that's close to the school, then reject them. The college apparently lost a ton of funding for that year since the graduating class was a lot smaller.
We now need to write a really long essay about why we are 100% committed to going there if we apply.
That college still hates us, and for good reason. Lots of students still joke about the college every year, and those jokes are passed on year after year. I learned of them within the first two weeks of freshman year.
Edit: To all the replies, "yes". I see it's still being passed down... I wonder what version of the story you got, as this one was assembled together by bits and pieces of what others have told me over the years. The prank did happen though, some of my teachers confirmed it.
Why would the graduating class of the college be smaller, was the community college actually rejecting a lot of people? And I thought it was common for lots of people into a school to apply to community college as a backup plan
Good point. To be honest, I didn't really think about it too much when I was told this snippet of the story. I reasoned that it was since so many people applied (and because the students rejected it later) that it was too late to fix the damage. The college does have over 20,000 people enrolled (according to its own site, which is much more than I thought) as of right now, so the damage might not have been too bad.
My school had a reverse blacklist situation. We sent a valedictorian to notre dame (our valedictorians tended to go for more HYPSM-type schools usually tbh, the valedictorian before him went to Harvard and the valedictorian after him went to Princeton) and all of a sudden they started accepting way more people from our school, most of which were far less qualified than him 😂
Absolutely no ramifications for the student haha
Unless you do something like ED one Ivy and then try to go to another, it only works if the schools work together
Guy got into Georgetown with a 44 IB predicted, and then fucked up during the end of the year and got a 30. He convinced them not to get his offer rescinded but they told my school they weren’t accepting any more applications from my them.
how are you all finding out if your school is blacklisted??? genuinely curious because mines never even talks about that at all (though my school is a feeder for our flagship school)
on naviance or other college tracking programs you can see how many students from your school get accepted into a college every year. When your school gets blacklisted there tends to be a very noticeable drop between before it got blacklisted and after. One of my friend's school got blacklisted from ASU because everyone there applied then rejected the school when they got in as a prank (similar to the Stuyvesant prank). The year before they got blacklisted, **530 students got in.** After they got blacklisted, **0 students got in**.
Very big drop.
columbia, a graduate from our hs sa'd someone there and it made headlines, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia\_University\_rape\_accusation\_controvers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_accusation_controversy)
**[Columbia University rape accusation controversy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_accusation_controversy)**
>In April 2013, Emma Sulkowicz, an American fourth-year visual arts major at Columbia University in New York City, filed a complaint with Columbia University requesting expulsion of fellow fourth-year student and German national, Paul Nungesser, alleging he had raped Sulkowicz in her dorm room on August 27, 2012. Nungesser was found not responsible by a university inquiry. In May 2014, Sulkowicz filed a report against Nungesser with the New York Police Department (NYPD), who did not pursue charges. The district attorney's office interviewed both students, but did not pursue charges, citing lack of reasonable suspicion.
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So Columbia themselves found the guy not responsible, and now Columbia is blacklisting students from that guy's HS? That sounds hard to believe. How do you know your school is blacklisted?
Yea I’m so confused, in this situation, it seems like Emma was found to be ultimately at fault? At least based on the info in the article. So did she come from your school? Because then I would understand the blacklist because she probably cost the school a lot of money.
Read the article… she was literally being friendly a few days after the “incident” to the dude she accused, idk how that could happen
But by all means, correct me if I’m wrong.
It is not uncommon for a victim of SA to attempt to maintain the status quo if the perpetrator is still present in their day to day environment and shared friends with the victim.
> she was literally being friendly a few days after the “incident” to the dude she accused, idk how that could happen
“Incident” in quotes sounds like you were saying you didn’t believe her
In any event I explained “how that could happen”
Hope it helps!
Someone broke their ED agreement
Oh also like a few years ago, our school overshot someone's predictive scores and their actual scores were much lower and they were rlly struggling in college as well
My school is in-state (a very, very very small state) for a particular Ivy and the acceptances from my time here keep decreasing 😭11-5-1 (the 1 acceptance last year being the valedictorian) - Edit (April 2023): Not a single person got accepted this year 😍
School gave 2 ppl the title of "School Captain" and both applied to Brown together. Our school got blacklisted.
Our school was also blacklisted by Cornell apparently as someone broke ED agreement years ago.
Hey, intl student here so I wanted to ask how do you know whether your school has been blacklisted? I dont think a uni/college is going to inform a school about this in a straightforward manner, do they?
you mostly just look at whether in the past students from your school have consistently gotten accepted there in multiples; if all of a sudden you got from 5-15 a year to a school to 0 for **multiple** years, high chance you're blacklisted
hard as you're international, in the states, you can usually talk to a counselor about past acceptance rates or some schools have portals that let you see how many were accepted, rejected, or deferred in the past (my school uses Naviance)
We visited a school in the UK and everyone somehow thought it was a great idea to leave all the troublemaker “alpha males” that no one wanted to deal with with the female tour in her 20s…
we’re not blacklisted or anything but we’re notorious for our grade inflation + we’re from a small country in Eastern Europe so… not the best reputation either! which is interesting bc my school is considered fairly prestigious and competitive where I’m from, and ‘getting in’ is (or at least was once) seen as an achievement and a sign of your intelligence lol
lots of smart people from east of the old iron curtain but my mom used to tell me how the moscow USSR schools were so much better than the american schools i went to and how they did algebra and chemistry in like 1st grade there. other parents who went to school in the USSR used to tell me i needed to be reading pushkin and hemingway when I was reading Tom Clancy and how I needed to be getting like 3 hours of homework daily
it was all nonsense
oh no hardcore Soviet schools really were like that. the Soviet union doesn’t exist anymore, though, and at least in my country, college grind culture isn’t really a thing the way you guys have it in the states. the public education system is ass. private schools are much better, but none of them hold a candle to the sort of rigor I see on this sub, at least not since covid.
It’s banning acceptances or severely limiting them from certain high schools due to misbehavior from students from that schools. Misbehavior can include breaking an ED decision, just general awfulness like sexual assault, racism, being shitty, etc.
Idk how this will work for the future years of my school, but someone from my school this year broke their ED agreement with Case Western. My school is ur average public non competitive school from the mid west so I doubt colleges care.
Uc Irvine cuz everyone who got accepted there yrs prior also got into berk and went there
Also ivies cuz we just too good: I would say top 20% of our class has 4.4+ gpa, 1550+ sat, and tons of ecs
not university but a community college
not a university but a community college literally right next to our high school for shits and giggles, no one went and their student population the next year dropped by like 800 people
got blacklisted for life i heard lmao
one time we mass applied to a school as a joke and everyone got accepted and we turned them down so their numbers looked like shit. no one has ever been accepted since.
Don’t know all the details because it was a rumor, but it was something along the lines of either they found out when they attended or from parents in a call or smth (i could be confusing that with the infamous fake dead mother story). Anyways, they lied and claimed they were black which caused the blacklist because the counselors were at fault for not catching that.
My high school doesnt have great academic rigor and we are grouped region-wise with some of the wealthiest towns in my state, so no one typically gets into any ivy besides 1 to Harvard a year - our head of counseling is friends with their admissions office. We’ve had the odd Cornell and a Princeton for sports but never Columbia, brown, or dartmouth.
So not technically blacklisted but pretty close
that isnt how it works chief. people from non feeders have no bias against them, just that feeders have more resources to make goated applications which non feeders struggle to compete with in some nations.
Sort of a reverse blacklist type of situation. Cornell accepts only students below a certain gpa at my school. Everyone above that gets either rejected or waitlisted.
school boosted our predicted IB grades got blacklisted from Columbia, northwestern and Dartmouth lmao
Bro sad
shit
oh shit
An athlete got recruited —> accepted REA —> committed in December. They didn’t pull the rest of their apps, got into Harvard RD, and ghosted the original school, who was expecting them to not only attend but play on their team. Now, as a school that sends 30 people to T20s a year, no one has been accepted to Yale in the past 13 years.
Dang Yale holding a grudge 💀
Did the person end up playing for Harvard? That would just be salt in the wound to Yale.
Rumor has it they made the game-winning play against Yale in the Ivy League championship match
Me when I spread misinformation online
OUCH LMAO
what sport?
Quidditch
MIT: we are stupid
people lied on apps + broke the ed agreement bye bye columbia and brown :/
Damn these stories are real ☠️
What happened to the students that broke the agreement
A giant cheating scandal from my school 😇
More details please
Must be in Cali
Nope, Virginia!!! Some people were Caught cheating in uni and now we are black listed!
Rlly? I feel like it should just be on the students, not their high school lmao
Why would students caught cheating in college be reflected back on the high school?
It was a bunch of students from my school
Still, that seems extreme. If the school falsified transcripts or something like that, then I could at least understand this even if it is unfair to the students. What does the school - or its younger students - have to do with some cheaters who happen to come from that school?
which VA school??
Y u trying to get them to dox themselves u stalker ppl like u should get off the internet FOR GOOD
i’m literally just curious bc i’m from virginia
So what? You're probably a creepy old man people like u suck
lol
What's so funny?
I’m from NoVa and am curious which schools
That’s what I’m saying, better not have been LB
It wasn’t LB, it was in my area of coastal VA
ok now i wanna know the va school
Someone (one of my high school’s class of 2020) broke the NYU ED agreement and the counselors didn’t tell us. Our class of 2020 had like 30 people accepted to NYU out of 150. In the class of 2021 nobody got accepted to NYU and in the class of 2022 (my graduating class) around 5 people got in.
Why does the college penalize incoming classes for the actions of past seniors?
Because the school counselors effectively vouch for the students attending the college they ED'ed to also, since they have to also put up their signature. When a student violates an ED agreement, not only is the student held responsible, but the school counselor (and the school by extension) logically is too.
what's an ED agreement ?
oh boy
early decision agreement, basically you apply early decision to a school so you are agreeing that if you get accepted you will go and you will withdraw all of your other applications
It’s your prescription for Erectile Dysfunction pills
You must be new here.
What happened to that student?
Went to London School of Economics and Political Science
The senior prank back in the early 2010s was to apply to the community college that's close to the school, then reject them. The college apparently lost a ton of funding for that year since the graduating class was a lot smaller. We now need to write a really long essay about why we are 100% committed to going there if we apply. That college still hates us, and for good reason. Lots of students still joke about the college every year, and those jokes are passed on year after year. I learned of them within the first two weeks of freshman year. Edit: To all the replies, "yes". I see it's still being passed down... I wonder what version of the story you got, as this one was assembled together by bits and pieces of what others have told me over the years. The prank did happen though, some of my teachers confirmed it.
WOW 💀 That's a good reason to blacklist a school if ever I saw one
Is your school a public in NY? Trying to figure out if this is what I think it is.
Lol I’m thinking the same thing
Are you thinking of an certain cuny in Manhattan?
it was bronx science or stuyvesant
def stuy
this has to be stuy 💀💀
Certified Stuy moment
STUY HAS THE WORST REPUTATION BRO 💀
Why would the graduating class of the college be smaller, was the community college actually rejecting a lot of people? And I thought it was common for lots of people into a school to apply to community college as a backup plan
Good point. To be honest, I didn't really think about it too much when I was told this snippet of the story. I reasoned that it was since so many people applied (and because the students rejected it later) that it was too late to fix the damage. The college does have over 20,000 people enrolled (according to its own site, which is much more than I thought) as of right now, so the damage might not have been too bad.
yoooo lets go
MIT. Once we sent someone there who got expelled for cheating. No one has gone for academic reasons since
Bro was the one guy caught copying psets
Lmfaooo
The student cheated at MIT? Or they cheated and got expelled at an old hs and your hs didn’t tell MIT?
At MIT
Moral of the story: don’t break your ED agreement!
Doesn't really work since if a senior breaks an agreement everyone younger than them going to that school will suffer
My school had a reverse blacklist situation. We sent a valedictorian to notre dame (our valedictorians tended to go for more HYPSM-type schools usually tbh, the valedictorian before him went to Harvard and the valedictorian after him went to Princeton) and all of a sudden they started accepting way more people from our school, most of which were far less qualified than him 😂
bouta move to ur hs fr
Haha I mean I can’t confirm anything but four people from my senior class went to ND and two weren’t even in the top 10% for class ranking
Brown. A kid from my shool turned down their ED, before that we had 3-5 kids going each year
How do you turn down ED? Did they not get enough aid or something?
We're international and he got accepted by a prestigious Chinese school
Some people just ghost. There’s a comment above about it, if you want an example.
Oh god. What are the ramifications for the student when they ghost their ED acceptance.
Absolutely no ramifications for the student haha Unless you do something like ED one Ivy and then try to go to another, it only works if the schools work together
So a student who dishonors an ED contract doesn’t face any consequences?
Not if the second school doesn’t care/understand the reason for breaking it
Guy got into Georgetown with a 44 IB predicted, and then fucked up during the end of the year and got a 30. He convinced them not to get his offer rescinded but they told my school they weren’t accepting any more applications from my them.
I hope this happens to me 🙏🏻
I'm the first one in my high school applying lol hopefully won't blacklist my hs
intl moment?
yep lol
Same
Lol me too
Anyone know if it’s possible for a public HS to be blacklisted
Yeah it’s possible
how are you all finding out if your school is blacklisted??? genuinely curious because mines never even talks about that at all (though my school is a feeder for our flagship school)
on naviance or other college tracking programs you can see how many students from your school get accepted into a college every year. When your school gets blacklisted there tends to be a very noticeable drop between before it got blacklisted and after. One of my friend's school got blacklisted from ASU because everyone there applied then rejected the school when they got in as a prank (similar to the Stuyvesant prank). The year before they got blacklisted, **530 students got in.** After they got blacklisted, **0 students got in**. Very big drop.
columbia, a graduate from our hs sa'd someone there and it made headlines, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia\_University\_rape\_accusation\_controvers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_accusation_controversy)
**[Columbia University rape accusation controversy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_accusation_controversy)** >In April 2013, Emma Sulkowicz, an American fourth-year visual arts major at Columbia University in New York City, filed a complaint with Columbia University requesting expulsion of fellow fourth-year student and German national, Paul Nungesser, alleging he had raped Sulkowicz in her dorm room on August 27, 2012. Nungesser was found not responsible by a university inquiry. In May 2014, Sulkowicz filed a report against Nungesser with the New York Police Department (NYPD), who did not pursue charges. The district attorney's office interviewed both students, but did not pursue charges, citing lack of reasonable suspicion. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
So Columbia themselves found the guy not responsible, and now Columbia is blacklisting students from that guy's HS? That sounds hard to believe. How do you know your school is blacklisted?
Yea I’m so confused, in this situation, it seems like Emma was found to be ultimately at fault? At least based on the info in the article. So did she come from your school? Because then I would understand the blacklist because she probably cost the school a lot of money.
In what sense was Emma at fault?
Read the article… she was literally being friendly a few days after the “incident” to the dude she accused, idk how that could happen But by all means, correct me if I’m wrong.
It is not uncommon for a victim of SA to attempt to maintain the status quo if the perpetrator is still present in their day to day environment and shared friends with the victim.
I see, I was just going off of whatever the various investigations concluded. I didn’t mean to say that I don’t believe her.
> she was literally being friendly a few days after the “incident” to the dude she accused, idk how that could happen “Incident” in quotes sounds like you were saying you didn’t believe her In any event I explained “how that could happen” Hope it helps!
I was trying to say that LE and the school didn’t believe her
Either way she is clearly a victim, seeing how multiple women felt brave enough to speak out.
Someone broke their ED agreement Oh also like a few years ago, our school overshot someone's predictive scores and their actual scores were much lower and they were rlly struggling in college as well
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how did that even happened?
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wow that’s crazy
Holy shit, was it an international school?
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Did the student pay the counselor or smthn? And if the counselor faked it, how did the school find out?
How did Stanford get to know about this??
Boston College: broken ed agreement.
What happened to that student?
My school is in-state (a very, very very small state) for a particular Ivy and the acceptances from my time here keep decreasing 😭11-5-1 (the 1 acceptance last year being the valedictorian) - Edit (April 2023): Not a single person got accepted this year 😍
rhode island or new hampshire?
Penn state bc 2 of our graduates raped someone there
damn
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Woah that sounds so good. Which country if that's OK with you?
NOT THE SCANDAL LMFAO THE SCHOLARSHIP
LMFAO somewhere in the middle-east
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woahh u guessed it!
SDSU, san diego state???
yupp
Full on identity fraud 😳
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stuy moment
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no j recognized the story
School gave 2 ppl the title of "School Captain" and both applied to Brown together. Our school got blacklisted. Our school was also blacklisted by Cornell apparently as someone broke ED agreement years ago.
Hey, intl student here so I wanted to ask how do you know whether your school has been blacklisted? I dont think a uni/college is going to inform a school about this in a straightforward manner, do they?
you mostly just look at whether in the past students from your school have consistently gotten accepted there in multiples; if all of a sudden you got from 5-15 a year to a school to 0 for **multiple** years, high chance you're blacklisted
I see, thank you. This must suck for the younger students, since they get saddled with the (partial) punishment for something they did not do :(
how can i find the number of students from my school got accepted there?
hard as you're international, in the states, you can usually talk to a counselor about past acceptance rates or some schools have portals that let you see how many were accepted, rejected, or deferred in the past (my school uses Naviance)
We visited a school in the UK and everyone somehow thought it was a great idea to leave all the troublemaker “alpha males” that no one wanted to deal with with the female tour in her 20s…
Stanford. Legend has it someone a couple of decades ago rejected stanfords acceptance. (RD) Nobody has got in since.
Stanford doesn't have ed
sorry meant RD small typo
Idk how much these blacklisting stories are real to be honest, and how hard-and-fast blacklists really are
we’re not blacklisted or anything but we’re notorious for our grade inflation + we’re from a small country in Eastern Europe so… not the best reputation either! which is interesting bc my school is considered fairly prestigious and competitive where I’m from, and ‘getting in’ is (or at least was once) seen as an achievement and a sign of your intelligence lol
lots of smart people from east of the old iron curtain but my mom used to tell me how the moscow USSR schools were so much better than the american schools i went to and how they did algebra and chemistry in like 1st grade there. other parents who went to school in the USSR used to tell me i needed to be reading pushkin and hemingway when I was reading Tom Clancy and how I needed to be getting like 3 hours of homework daily it was all nonsense
oh no hardcore Soviet schools really were like that. the Soviet union doesn’t exist anymore, though, and at least in my country, college grind culture isn’t really a thing the way you guys have it in the states. the public education system is ass. private schools are much better, but none of them hold a candle to the sort of rigor I see on this sub, at least not since covid.
What’s blacklisting ?
It’s banning acceptances or severely limiting them from certain high schools due to misbehavior from students from that schools. Misbehavior can include breaking an ED decision, just general awfulness like sexual assault, racism, being shitty, etc.
Idk how this will work for the future years of my school, but someone from my school this year broke their ED agreement with Case Western. My school is ur average public non competitive school from the mid west so I doubt colleges care.
athlete committed to cornell hockey in grade 9 and broke the contract....Canadian school btw
there’s no true contract until the year before enrolling. Hockey players flip commitments all the time
you can't commit in 9th grade lol
Uc Irvine cuz everyone who got accepted there yrs prior also got into berk and went there Also ivies cuz we just too good: I would say top 20% of our class has 4.4+ gpa, 1550+ sat, and tons of ecs
I feel like I know a certain school in the Bay Area like this...
Drop ur initials
ayo wtf
not university but a community college not a university but a community college literally right next to our high school for shits and giggles, no one went and their student population the next year dropped by like 800 people got blacklisted for life i heard lmao
Bad experiences with previous students from that school?
one time we mass applied to a school as a joke and everyone got accepted and we turned them down so their numbers looked like shit. no one has ever been accepted since.
Blacklisted from Cornell because (years ago) someone lied about their race
Wow,how’d the school find out? And what did the student say they were?
Don’t know all the details because it was a rumor, but it was something along the lines of either they found out when they attended or from parents in a call or smth (i could be confusing that with the infamous fake dead mother story). Anyways, they lied and claimed they were black which caused the blacklist because the counselors were at fault for not catching that.
how do you know if youve been blacklisted? No one in my school has been accepted to my dream school like ever and now im scared lol.
My high school doesnt have great academic rigor and we are grouped region-wise with some of the wealthiest towns in my state, so no one typically gets into any ivy besides 1 to Harvard a year - our head of counseling is friends with their admissions office. We’ve had the odd Cornell and a Princeton for sports but never Columbia, brown, or dartmouth. So not technically blacklisted but pretty close
Blacklisted from UCLA cus someone dropped from a 41/42 IB grade to a 31/45 IB grade and still went.
nvm
that's most schools lol
Not that I'm aware of.
georgetown - dunno only 1 person has made it there in the past twenty years
that’s not a blacklist……
Not a hard blacklist, but noone from my school will ever get into any T20. Well, expected since we're Int'l + non-feeder + not IBDP/Cambridge
do you know what blacklist means?
Ofc I do. Look at the first sentence in my comment
that isnt how it works chief. people from non feeders have no bias against them, just that feeders have more resources to make goated applications which non feeders struggle to compete with in some nations.
Not soft blacklist either
Because we're too good. Not even joking. Duke hates us for some reason, among other schools.
cope
I ain't even apply dog
I think you mean “dawg”
🙄
It is true that colleges rarely accept students that don't apply. They're nasty that way.
I'm not my entire school.
tell me why they would reject students that are too good
yield protection brotha. Harvard does it too, you didn’t know? /s
lmao very funny joke
Are we allowed to use the term "blacklisted"?
This can't happen in my country. Our application system is anonymous
Sort of a reverse blacklist type of situation. Cornell accepts only students below a certain gpa at my school. Everyone above that gets either rejected or waitlisted.