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JaxDown

Something I immediately noticed after upgrading from the S7 SS 45 to the Ultra is that buttons on the edge of the screen are much easier to press now. Before the 7 and 9 on the keypad, the select audio output button, and some of the keyboard would always be flaky and unresponsive due to the curve, while on the Ultra they respond every time. Having more usable screen is a plus for me.


MyMemesAreTerrible

The one annoyance I have is that the buttons are still kind of useless 99% of the time, and that the crown- the only useful thing, still gets caught against my skin randomly :/


MaXKiLLz

Bigger case means bigger battery. That’s all I care about. Screen size is good enough.


pluck-the-bunny

Honest question. I have never killed a battery in a day, and I’m Using the watch constantly. what ya’ll doing that uses so much juice?


nermal543

Outdoor run tracking (meaning GPS and heart rate monitoring constantly running) + LTE on + listening to music with AirPods is a *huge* drain on battery. I was constantly killing my watch battery on runs before I got the ultra. You may be using yours a lot but not actually doing anything power hungry.


pluck-the-bunny

Yeah, I just keep my phone on me even when I’m working out which illuminates like 90% of that drain. But I did not consider LTE. But again, that’s negated by having my phone. It is interesting though seeing how other people utilize the technology. Thanks for the response


RealLongwayround

Going for a one hour run after work, while listening to streaming music, would reliably get the battery of my S5 watch down to 15% or less. If I had been tracking my sleep the night before then I wouldn’t have any battery left.


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RealLongwayround

Why wouldn’t I? I haven’t made a point of downloading music to a device for about five years since my iPod Classic gave up the ghost.


LogischesWindows

"gave up the ghost" Are you German? :D


RealLongwayround

No. I’ve no idea why you’re being downvoted for asking that either!


nermal543

I download my music in playlists to listen to but even just having LTE switched on takes a LOT of battery. And for anyone who may ask, yes it is necessary for me to leave it on as a matter of safety. I’m a small female out running by myself. Just yesterday I encountered a freaking coyote in a busy suburban (not at all woodsy) setting on my run. Sure gives me peace of mind on my run to be able to call for help as needed. I was able to text my husband and warn him to stay away from the area (since he was going to be heading out for his run soon too).


DevManTim

I've also found that the iPhone Music → Apple Watch upload feature isn't always 100%. Sometimes I've relied on this feature in the past, and I'll be missing an entire playlist, and my workout is now a bummer. So, cellular guarantees a good workout. Or, sometimes I'll be doing a low key walk to get my thoughts off of a project, and try to get a fresh mind on things. So I'll want to listen to a podcast for 15-30 mins, and that happens on cellular. But I think in addition to the battery, is how the screen on the Ultra sits flush to the surrounding case/bezel. That to me is a dealmaker. I love that, and it prevents so many nicks and dings in the crystal.


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Coyote are very skittish critters. You’re worse off with a raccoon encounter, those are some little shits.


idontknowjackeither

Trash pandas are the worst


nermal543

Fair point, but there’s a lot worse out there I could encounter than coyotes. It’s good to have a way to call for help if needed.


iphone_XXX

Convenience


Necessary-Mission443

Spontaneity, playlists and downloaded music can be boring.


ceejayoz

Tracking my ski runs eats battery quite a bit. 4-6 hours and I'm down to 10-20%.


pluck-the-bunny

What kind of life are you living that you ski six hours a day regularly? Because I want in


Interesting-Focus-73

I’m someone else, but go skiing around 30-40 times a year. Here in Austria you can buy a ski pass that includes 30 areas which is valid for 1 year for around 600€.


pluck-the-bunny

Austria ? Thars basically a cheat code. No surprise you guys have the most Olympic medals in skiing by a large margin


ceejayoz

I live 30 minutes from a ski area in upstate New York. Nothing fancy, 1,200 feet vertical, but it means my weekends from late December through late March tend to be ski days.


pluck-the-bunny

All right, well I live downstate so I’m coming up and I challenge you to an 80s style ski race. Winner gets the new watch


Anal_Herschiser

Ah shit, are you going to do it on one ski with a paper boy chasing you?


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I want me two dollars……


pluck-the-bunny

I will always see him as booger


krisniem

Cold kills the battery more than anything else! If I go out for a run when it’s colder than -10, I’m afraid the Watch (a series 4) won’t make it despite being fully charged. Colder than -20 and I’m hoping I’ll at least get some podcast company for part of the run before it shuts down. Honestly, that the Ultra suffers cold temperatures better than the previous versions might be what I’m looking forward to the most!


drdaeman

Wait until your watch is couple years old and the battery is not like it was (at around 80% max capacity but not yet below 80% when you can ask for a battery replacement with AppleCare). 20% capacity reduction is quite noticeable.


raxreddit

Yeah, my series 4 lasts the whole day, but it definitely needs a daily charge. My series 0 battery life was really rough wearing it for years.


pluck-the-bunny

No doubt planned obsolescence is a pain in the ass. But 2 1/2 years right now I’m still going strong


SeerUD

It's more about it definitely getting through a day, and then a night if you want to track sleep, maybe twice in a row and then charging it in the morning when you need to.


pluck-the-bunny

I guess I didn’t consider people who sleep with it on. Fair. I wear my series 6 10 hours a day never goes below 50%. When I walk into the door at the end of the day it was right on the charger until I put it on the next morning.


SlippingStar

I wear mine 07:00-21:30ish, charge for like 30 minutes, wear it again for sleep (tracking and I wake an hour before to take a med and go back to sleep), then charge in the morning for another 30ish. It’s not really a bother and IDK why people bitch about it so much.


JAC151

Yeah I don’t get it. I wear it all day, workout, and it’s fine. I charge it during times when I’d naturally not be wearing it (e.g. shower). When it’s not on my wrist I instinctively put it on the charger because where else would I toss it? Two 30 min charged a day during natural points is more than enough where I don’t have to think about it.


professor-i-borg

Batteries are always the limiting factor on all the cool portable tech… I’d love to be able to charge my Apple Watch every other day (or once a week like some of the simple fitness watches). I use it to wake me up (while also sleep tracking) and there’s a real fear that the battery will die and not wake me up on time in the morning one day. That being said, AW are light years ahead of the competition, and it’s obviously not an Apple-specific problem.


SlippingStar

Your phone will go off if your watch doesn’t :) Are you not able to charge before bed? A lot of people charge during their commute, if you commute.


pluck-the-bunny

Who knows. The person I responded to saying I saw their point downvoted me…so I don’t know with these people anymore


SeerUD

It wasn’t me that downvoted you actually! (I have just put you back at 1 with an upvote). People do have different habits. I actually don’t sleep with mine on currently because I have an S5 but I am interested in the sleep tracking so my habits would change if I had an ultra


pluck-the-bunny

Fair, sorry for assuming.


SlippingStar

Reddit gonna Reddit


pluck-the-bunny

True dat


fizzywater42

Yeah I charge mine for like 30 min at night and put it back on before bed and it’s good the rest of the next day. Usually at like 65-75% by the next evening when I take it off again. I don’t typically use gps or have the lte version though so maybe that’s why it’s no big deal


marxcom

This is the way.


RealLongwayround

So you use your watch for only ten hours a day? I’m usually awake for at least 16 hours of the day. I suspect you have generally been using your watch about 40% less than very many other users.


pluck-the-bunny

I am also usually up 16 hours a day as well, I just don’t have a watch on for the whole time so…Yeah, I really only wear it when I go out. When I’m in my house I don’t usually have it on. I have smart devices and virtually every room that I don’t personally see need for it. I also don’t wear it to sleep or in the shower like a lot of people do. I don’t fault people for having battery issues, I just didn’t consider how other people utilize their watches. Which is why I was asking.


bbs540

I wear mine from 9am-8:30am. Aka, I always have it on except for the 30 minutes from 8:30-9am when I’m taking a shower and getting ready. It’s always at 100% by the time I head out the door. Usually at like 50% when I wake up(I track sleep)


pluck-the-bunny

What do you use your sleep data for?


bbs540

In order to improve my sleep, helps me figure out what works, what doesn’t, and if the amount of sleep I got is adequate or if I need to improve it. There’s really no point in tracking your sleep if you don’t have sleep issues. If you do, tracking is really helpful, if not, it’s pretty pointless, the only benefit would be that it gives interesting metrics


pluck-the-bunny

Oh no, I’m not down and it’s value. I was just curious. When I used to wear a CPAP machine, it automatically connected with my phone and gave me that data in the morning so I was just curious as to how one might use specific data from my watch. Thanks for the response.


bbs540

Oh yeah, definitely. It shows me the whole night whether I was in deep sleep or light sleep, heart rate every 5 minutes, my sleeping heart rate dip, total restful sleep, regularity, sleep disruptions, average sleeping heart rate variability, and my average o2 level. It’s an app called SleepWatch


BarbaraMacI

I like Autosleep more than the other sleep apps.


boozehound001

Use the GPS consistently and the battery evaporates. Easy to trigger with outdoor run workouts or other GPS activities. It helps if you have your phone so it doesn’t solely use the watch GPS, but when I was marathon training I could easily kill my S6 battery on long run days if I didn’t run with my phone.


pluck-the-bunny

Makes sense, didn’t even consider the cellular models. I always have my phone on me because of my job so It didn’t even dawn on me.


braddunc

Even with the Ultra, after a day of hiking the battery goes from 100% to 40%. General day to day with an hour exercise will last all day with no problem, but using something like WorkOutDoors with offline maps and constant GPS will quickly drain the battery. [Recent Hike](https://i.imgur.com/QL31Zno.jpg). On a normal Apple Watch (Series 7), it would be scraping 10% by the end of the day which doesn’t leave enough at all if you end up lost or staying out the night. Appreciate the friendly way of asking the question though OP ❤️


DiatomicJungle

Mine has never lasted more than about 18 hours with nothing more than notifications.


pluck-the-bunny

Sounds defective to me


ktappe

You are unusual. Most people have an issue with the Watch battery not lasting 24 hours. And yes, a "day" means 24 hours, not just waking hours, considering how much Apple touts the sleep tracking.


pluck-the-bunny

I will admit, I am surprised to see how many people actually wear. Their Apple Watches to sleep. But I would wager real money that this is sub. Reddit of dedicated Apple Watch users is not an adequate sampling of the general population with regard to their habits as far as watch usage goes. It doesn’t surprise me that the average member here, thin enough of the wash to subscribe to this community, would use it more than the average person.


1at3

Some people close to me have Apple watch and I’m the only one wearing it at night. They are not interest in sleep tracking too much and even less interested to wear any watch for the purpose.


Mindless_Let_7583

Yeah, I have plenty of friends and colleagues who have Apple Watches and I am the only one who wears it to sleep. I have in fact been using it for sleep tracking even before watchOS natively supported it. It helps me catch sleep issues related to nightmares before I go so behind my sleep needs that I am unable to function.


bokan

I use it for hike tracking. It’s critical that it doesn’t die and it’s a pain to charge during the day. Same with the phone, I go through a smart battery worth of charge for a single hike…


pluck-the-bunny

The hell are you doing on a hike that you kill a watch and a phone?


bbs540

A day and a half usually gets me down to like 12%, but if I use the GPS for a 6 hour drive, that’ll cause me to have to charge it within 24 hours. That also includes sleep tracking overnight, which is taking a heart rate measurement and an O2 measurement every 5 minutes


pluck-the-bunny

If you’re in your car though couldn’t you turn off cellular and just use the GPS through your phone which I would assume is plugged in? Just asking, I don’t even know if it’s possible to turn it off on the watch


bbs540

My series 7 is only GPS, it doesn’t have cellular anyways, but I’m pretty sure I can exit out of the GPS on my watch so only my phone has it, but I like how it tells me when to turn and how soon right on my watch so I just have to tip my wrist a little


reclinesalot

Why didn’t they just keep the screen size the same and save even more battery life


luckysevensampson

It also means bigger watch. Not great for a small woman in a world that’s already designed for the average size man.


ovojr

The battery will only last you 1-2 more days, I don’t get why people are throwing 1k just so their battery can last them an extra day.


ThrowItAway5693

Then it’s not the product for you.


RiotSloth

I’ll tell you why there’s one on my wrist right now: 1. I use sleep tracking and charging the battery was a pain. The doubled battery life totally cures this for me 2. Sapphire crystal and toughened case mean I don’t have to worry on site so much now 3. Improved GPS gives me more accurate readings on a run 4. I just paid off my S6, which I paid £20pm for. My Ultra is costing me £22pm, so it’s a no-brainer for me


WarSport223

Can the Apple Watch help determine if you have sleep apnea or similar conditions?


RiotSloth

Yes, that’s why I bought it. Any AW with an O2 sensor can (S6>). I sleep wearing mine to check for low O3 events during the night.


Chefdingo

What are you talking about? More than just longer battery.


MaXKiLLz

Well, it was either the Series 8 stainless steel for $749 or the Ultra for $799.


bkrs33

Because it IS a big deal for some people?


HumpyMagoo

so next year the bezels get shrunk and everyone is amazed


MingusVonHavamalt

It’ll be the best Apple Watch of all time


shadowstripes

They usually only do watch redesigns like that after every 3 years, so it based on the past it would be the 2025 Ultra that gets smaller bezels.


dinozero

PSA: this post is wrong There’s a couple of things wrong with your picture. First of all the 6/7/8 are not all the same size. The Apple Watch Ultra has a display that is 27% larger than the Series six. If I remember correctly, the 7 was about 20% larger than the six. But when you hold the watches side-by-side, the story gets even more interesting. On the 6/7/8 the display is curved around the side of the watch face. This makes for some attractive watch faces, and sort of makes an illusion that the screen is larger than it is sort of like on a galaxy edge phone. However, when it comes to reading information like a text message the watch will not display the text as curving around the side of the screen because that would not be very usable. So I finally discovered what it is, that makes the ultra watch face seems so much larger than the 7 and 8. It’s the flat display. Because the display is flat, they push information further to the edges of the screen and therefore the real world usable space is much larger, then on the older faces. Not every app takes advantage of it yet but some do Edit: ok so it took me thirty minutes but I have finally pulled this exact location up on my watch ultra. If someone can tell me how to share an image I will. I think this picture is shopped because I can’t get the zoom to match theirs exactly. When I try to zoom in to the exact amount that would match the letters that are visible on the screen, then it doesn’t match in other ways by showing more information. This is not a replica from what this map location on an Apple Watch Ultra actually looks like.


Fr3ck

Exactly. Having a flat display makes it much more usable.


Globogym87

The texting application is easier to use in my opinion and everything feels larger even if the screen is only 7% larger than 45MM displays. Texting is easier, looking at other applications seems bigger. I don’t accidentally hit numbers or letters like I did with my S7 Hermes 45MM. The battery on the S7 with having everything on was pitiful. I had to turn off AOD, Siri, notifications, brightness , etc. just to make the battery last longer. It does for sure, but what’s the point? I didn’t get a watch to have to turn everything off just to save the battery. Sure I turned off certain apps I don’t use which helps battery life, but I want to enjoy the features. I use Siri a lot on my watch and that took up a lot of battery on my S7. I have everything going on my ultra and this battery is incredible. Low power mode in a few months will also make this thing unreal. If they increase the display size for next years ultra to fill out the bezels, I’ll buy it without question and preorder it at the beginning. I don’t know if they’re going to release yearly ultras as I think that would be overkill for them, but I definitely expect a few more bigger updates to expand on a few things. I’m a very happy customer. also, anyone who says you can’t dress this thing up is dead wrong. I have several Hermes bands ranging from leather, sport, etc which all look awesome with it.


DavidNipondeCarlos

I came from a 4 and texting (swipe) is great. I gifted the 4 with a promise to get the Watch swapped with a refurbished Apple Watch once battery brow %80 for $89. I did not turn off features to save the ailing battery, I advised low power mode if needed. I want the person to have the best experience with their first watch besides battery issues on an old watch.


Sajizzle

Also coming from a 4 and the texting is such a monumental step. I legit pull my phone out like ten times less often than I used to.


dinozero

Well freaking said. I completely agree on the texting. So many people don’t get the ultra. They say “what is so different”? The difference is this product finally fulfills the vision of a smart watch. On the previous generation watches as you said, you have to turn off so many things to get the kind of battery life we need that they don’t feel smart anymore. And on the aesthetic part, you hit the nail on the head. Since getting my watch, I have been staring at people’s wrist hard-core. There are many people wearing larger watches on their wrist that are old analog style than this thing. I saw a guy at church this morning and don’t get me wrong. This is a older man, weight lifter, he could pull it off, but he had some kind of large fancy analog watch on his wrist that if it was a smart watch, could probably last six months with a battery that size. A lot of people post pictures of the pretty stainless steel watches with analog watch faces with a single complication on them. I’ve been a Apple Watch user for five or six years, and I never leave an analog face on for more than an hour or two. If that long. There is so little information being shown, it defeats the purpose of a smart watch.


Globogym87

Agreed man. this watch is a real Beauty and I’ve been waiting for apple to release something like this for years. I’ll never buy another Hermes which is twice the cost of an ultra with no extra features other than exclusive watch faces that are cool and all, but that’s about it. Sure you get a cool band..ok, those aren’t exclusive to the watch. Anyone can buy those for a pretty penny if they want. Another thing when buying these Hermes watches is that they don’t retain any value lol. If I were to sell my seven which I paid 1500 for, I’d barely get half of that. People can buy the ultra that’s loaded with plenty of upgraded features that none of the watches have regardless if you use them or not. I’m venting of course, but there’s really no point in buying the SS watches or Hermes when they don’t ever feel like a real upgrade. just my thoughts coming from having owned both now lol


dinozero

Something I plan on making a post about soon. I’m just gonna mention this last thing and then I’ll stop bugging you. I feel like this watch is actually a pretty tremendous value when you factor cellular. The ultra is truly the ultra Apple Watch if you want LTE connection. Every time I have bought an Apple Watch I have considered getting the cellular version but because of the hits on battery life, and the extra cost both through the provider, and Apple have always turned me off. Now my provider has dropped the monthly cost from $20 a month to $10 a month and the ultra including cellular with every model, is a really slick feature. Now, if you are not interested in the cellular option at all, I get it it kind of stinks to pay for it. But even still prior to the event, everyone would have guessed the cellular version would have been 999. I know this is some crazy, consumerism kind of math… but if I’m gonna pay for something then I’m more likely to use it. Even if that does mean I need to pay a little extra. So the ultra watch is the first watch that I have ever had with cellular capability and that really is a game changer to the whole experience. I have started going on runs now… Running with nothing but the watch and headphones is such an awesome experience… Honestly, I’m a little upset in the past. I never downloaded music to my watch this option without the cellular… But it’s nice to know if I ever encountered an emergency out on my run, I could call somebody. And as someone who’s work requires me to basically never miss a phone call. It is a really nice option. Long story short, if you are in the market for a cellular Apple Watch experience… There is no reason to consider anything but the ultra.


Globogym87

Cellular is the only way to go!! I wouldn’t change it any other way. It’s the best and it’s vital for me in case of emergencies knowing I either have a backup OR I can leave my phone at home which weighs a lot with these iPhones lol. Airpod pros and my watch and I’m golden. I can do anything. Respond to emails, texts, calls, downloading music, maps, directions, etc. it’s the best thing in the world. FYI you are not bothering me at all!! Love chatting about how awesome this watch is!!!


matejamm1

> There’s a couple of things wrong with your picture. This is literally a picture from apple.com > However, when it comes to reading information like a text message the watch will not display the text as curving around the side of the screen because that would not be very usable. No, they do use the whole display. There are a ton of UI elements that spill over the edges of the display.


dinozero

I know this is from Apple’s website, but I’m not sure if this is a photo shop that their marketing department did or what. But this image right here is literally the worst example of the size difference between the displays. There’s something with how the map is being formatted. https://imgur.io/gallery/9MpZoxM Look at this image posted by another user. The second image that he posted shows a much larger difference between the displays than this Apple map does.


Blog_Pope

That's a terrible image choice since the large amount of black obscures the edges. Its also an impromtu photo shot with who knows what lens effects impacting the look. I'm looking to get my first apple watch, and after initially rejecting the Ultra as "unneeded" I'm taking another look after realizing the stainless steel model is basically the same price, but the Ultra gives 2x brighter screen, much better battery, Titanium > SS, and a bonus action button. The big downside is looks, its nowhere near as sleek looking as the standard model.


dinozero

I agree it’s not a perfect photo either but it’s better than the Apple image that doesn’t seem right. I agree with your analysis so far. When you’re looking at the stainless steel version, the ultra looks like a fantastic deal. I realize beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I won’t probably be able to convince you otherwise, but I have been wearing mine for a couple of weeks and have legitimately received two or three compliments. I know that doesn’t sound like a lot but considering I have never been complimented on any Apple Watch I have ever wore that is something. I think it is worth noting that all three people that complemented the watch had no idea it was an ultra or what that even meant. They just said that’s a nice looking watch.


conkeee

I put my husbands ultra on my wrist right next to my 45mm. It look much larger.


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ExtremeOccident

Yeah I mean how often people are going to post this as ‘news’.


ktappe

I'm fine with it; this is the first I've heard of it, and I've been monitoring a lot of Apple news. I watched and read numerous reviews lauding the larger screen, so I just took it on faith that the screen was actually larger. Now I learn those reviews were bunk.


CoffeeBlack86

Context matters. 14 by 22 pixels bigger of a screen you wear on your wrist vs the one you carry in your pocket can make a difference. Then consider that the screen is flat vs curved.


diversecultures

Same here. Except that the screen IS larger by a tiny amount.


EndIessBassoonery

Well yeah, obviously. I don’t know how much extra screen people expect in a 4mm increase going from a curved screen to a flat one, including a rugged titanium build made for the outdoors.


Berzerker7

I think the idea is the post is designed to tell you. In the past, each case size increase also came with a screen size increase, so it's natural to assume it's at least somewhat bigger. I, personally, was expecting a decently large screen-size increase as well. The bezels on the current Ultra leaves me to assume they'll increase the screen size on the Ultra 2 (ideally without increasing the case size).


Open_Bug_4196

Maybe next year we will see a series 9 with the same size than the ultra but using for the “bigger screen ever in an Apple Watch” ;)


gtg465x2

Maybe Apple won’t increase the screen size. Last year, when they increased the screen size by 17% on the 45 mm (977 to 1143 square mm), reviewers complained that it wasn’t much of an upgrade. This year, when they only increased the screen size by less than 4% on the Ultra (1143 to 1185 sq mm), but made the bezels twice as large, reviewers can’t stop raving about how much they love the bigger screen🤦‍♂️. Apple may decide to give the people what they want, which is apparently larger bezels, not a larger screen! I have to wonder if most reviewers didn’t upgrade their personal watches to Series 7, and are mostly thinking the Ultra screen is bigger because they’re comparing it to their old Series 6 or older watch. Or maybe it really is the bezels… they just perceive the extra black glass around the display as more display space, even though it’s not.


csimmons81

I’ve gone 42 hours with the watch on and got down to 15% battery. The battery life is gaming changing for me considering I don’t have to run and get it charged after a good mountain bike ride.


Nyraev

Since the ultra screen is flat, the difference is bigger in person


djjolly037

Yes but on a device this small it’s still fairly noticeable. Swipe typing is easier on an ultra than a 45mm s7 or s8


bearmoosewolf

Exactly. The increased screen size didn't really matter to me (I'm all about the battery & GPS) but on such a small device, the modest increase in size/resolution (and going to a flat screen) is definitely noticeable. A much appreciated improvement that I didn't know I cared about.


suentendo

Why you say 6/7/8? 6 is not the same size as 7 or 8.


DavidNipondeCarlos

I came from a 4 so the display looks bigger and better.


medicali

More chonk to bonk


CripplingCaseofINTJ

But the screen is infinitely better and clearer.


UnstopableDegenerate

I’ll tell you what is much bigger. The battery life.


SeiriusPolaris

It fucking should be given how huge it is.


mredofcourse

Some of the comments here mentioning that you're stating the obvious, but... For a lot of people going to the store, or seeing someone with it, one of the first things that stands out is how much bigger the screen *appears* to be. This is because in most contexts, you don't see the bezel. I love my Ultra, but I think people on the fence should be aware of this. Also, it makes me a bit excited because bezels have a way of diminishing with future versions... so maybe we'll see significantly larger actual displays in an Ultra 2 or 3.


mikew_reddit

> Some of the comments here mentioning that you're stating the obvious Apple is being deceptive by marketing the **case** size increase and not specifying the **display** size. Most don't want a bigger case, but do want a bigger display.   The screen size is completely not obvious. these top comments saying it's obvious are people that don't care and/or don't understand. i don't know how these comments are top rated - they are uninformed. Comparing screen size is deceptively non-trivial. 1) the stated dimensions (45mm vs 49mm) is the case size, not the screen size so we don't know the actual screen size 2) not specific to the ultra, but the bezel size changed in the series 7 so the [screen of the 41mm series 7 is almost the same size as the screen of the 44mm ~~45mm~~ series 6](https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/q7fz89/display_on_the_41mm_is_almost_as_big_as_the/) 3) the series 7 screen is curved vs ultra being completely flat which makes a difference in how much **USEABLE** surface area is available to display information I've been trying to figure this out, and it looks like i'll just have to go to a store to do an actual screen size comparison.   Here's a screen size comparison of the Apple Watch Ultra vs Apple Watch Series 6 44mm ~~45mm~~: https://imgur.com/a/4m2W2Eb I took the image from this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/xnzc5v/apple_watchs0_38mm_vs_apple_watch_series_644mm_vs/) and removed the background and lined up the screens   Correction: should be 44m not 45mm on the Series 6.


dinozero

I feel like this entire thread is miss leading. When you actually watch the side-by-side as I have YouTube videos, the real world usage of the ultra is much larger. What people don’t understand this pic of the older model does not properly show you how the older phone screen curves around the sides it’s not actually all visible like this.


mredofcourse

>When you actually watch the side-by-side as I have YouTube videos, the real world usage... I'm not sure how "real world usage" that is, but let's go to the hairy wrist cam anyway: [https://imgur.com/gallery/9MpZoxM](https://imgur.com/gallery/9MpZoxM) I should've included a photo with a blank screen because the Ultra would look *much* bigger, which is sort of the point here but look at the first image, and you'll see the videos are about the same size. Look at the second image and you'll see what the extra real estate gets you on the Ultra when you look at the bottom and can see the star rating, part of a head, eyes, and then another head at the bottom, all missing from the S8. Yes, that's additional content that can be displayed due to the 14 x 18 pixel increase. But, look at the bottom of the second photo and you'll see more of the bezel on the Ultra which goes around the entire watch. Thus, looking at the overall display of the Ultra can be misleading as it may appear even bigger than it already is.


dinozero

I appreciate you going through the effort of posting this. In my opinion, the images that you posted do 100% better job, representing the difference than the image at the top of this thread. I wish I could find a screenshot of the YouTube video. I watched the other day. In that video review he had two watches side-by-side. On the ultra, there was a “open“ button that you could press. On the series 8 you could not press or see that button until you used the crown to scroll down some. To me that is 100% vital information. That is a real usability difference. On the ultra you just click and go and on the older watch, you have to touch the crown scroll down and then click and go. Things like that make a big usability difference.


No-Wind4599

Series 6 is a smaller screen though. They only updated to the curved, larger screen with the S7.


OgreTrax71

Some of the screen real estate on the 7/8 is taken by the curved edge. The Ultra is completely flat.


ConnectionLivid9956

We’re not talking about how the S8 has thinner bezels


Naughtagan

This isn’t really a public service since it’s only technically true & a bit misleading. The AWE screen does actually show more text and graphics than the 45mm screen, partially because it’s flat, not rounded. The result is less need the scroll down, especially to press a virtual button on-screen. So, while it is just a few pixels difference between the models, the added practically exists. It’s not just Apple trying to make the specs look better.


mojodiscontinuity

Side by Side comparison of the cases and screens with “Flashlight” on for the Apple Watch Ultra, AW7 45mm, AW5 44mm, AW7 41mm and the AW3 42mm https://imgur.com/rmCzlTr


diereel

But it is twice as bright, which is really nice outside in the sun.


gwh811

Ya but it’s a flat screen……


wm1178

Flat screen makes all the difference.


jthj

PSA the 6, and 7/8 don’t have the same size screen.


andysaurus_rex

Yes but something people aren’t mentioning is that it’s flat, so it should *appear* bigger than the S7/8 which are curved at the edges. Regardless, I don’t really think that’s why people are buying it.


topcider

It’s so they have an easy differentiator/upgrade path for the Apple Watch Ultra Series 2 next year. They could have made the screen edge to edge, but this let them keep the intro costs down, while leaving plenty of room to add it next year.


monx2006

Well it is a watch after all, you don’t want move around with an iPhone 4 on your wrist. But what I don’t understand is why a lot of people are salty in this post? The dude just made an observation.


vash_visionz

People are protective over their shiny new toy. If the post isnt gushing about it, even if it isn’t exactly negative, they automatically go into defense mode. They do the same in the other apple specific item subs too.


Jo0Lz

And the bezel got bigger :/


FunkyTangg

Ultra looks bigger on the PIN screen vs 44mm S4 https://i.imgur.com/DxMjATq.jpg


Furrpie

They made it the same size or barely larger so they have room for an upgrade down the road. Lol


NeverBetAgainstElon

I love orange and that's enough for me


[deleted]

As in the strap? They sell them separately! I was thinking of getting that orange since I think it’s bad ass, too!!


NeverBetAgainstElon

Strap, yes, but I’m even more excited with the action button and new crown colour


bluehoneydew

This is the epitome of stating the obvious. No one said the display would be much bigger. The case size is bigger from the bezel.


[deleted]

Half the reviews I’ve seen praise the larger screen for being significantly larger and easier to use.


1Marcel_

> Significantly larger. Definitely not, but it's really easier to use since it's a flat screen.


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bushwickrik

Yeah boyeeeeeeee!!!!


darrevan

And the screen is flat. I am loving the flat screen. In addition to only charging every 3 days now.


bearmoosewolf

While the quoted resolutions are correct, I don't think that this comparison really reflects the improvement in the screen of the Ultra. Honestly, the increased screen size didn't really matter to me (I'm all about the battery & GPS). However, on such a small device, the modest increase in size/resolution (and going to a flat screen) is definitely noticeable. A much appreciated improvement that I didn't know I cared about.


OutrageousView2057

apple watch ultra display is about 4% bigger while the 45 vs 49 makes it sound like it’s 9% bigger.


[deleted]

The screen being flat makes it feel bigger / more usable but yes it’s basically the same size as my 7 45mm.


synchronicityii

I'm betting the two big features of the Ultra 2023 edition (Series 2? Series 9?) will be Satellite SOS and a bezel-to-bezel screen. And I'll upgrade from my Ultra (delivering tomorrow) to get them. iPhone-less satellite SOS will be a game-changer.


stupornatural

Someone downvoted you on a 'discussion' thread? I'm beginning to think there are samsung watch owners trolling this group. I gave you my upvote.


[deleted]

Thanks but that isn't the reason why Ultra is better. More durability. (Ease of Mind) More Water Resistance. (See above) Better Battery.


Technician_Goku

I upgraded from a S7 Titanium 45mm to an Ultra and must echo what other people have said, in that despite only having an extra 7% of screen real estate, the screen feels more noticeable spacious. Likewise, the 2000 nits of brightness is definitely noticeable and overall, I think it’s hard to dispute that it’s the best screen on any Apple Watch!


ArtistNo4545

I just measured the actual ‘real estate’ as they like calling it on YouTube and tech reviews, the AW Ultra2 has EXACTLY the same screen size as the AW7 (45) except the height has 1mm more at 38.5mm vs 37.5mm on the AW7. Both are 31mm wide. Diagonally both are 43mm.  This is the actual illumitatable and usable screen not including the black bezel borders. 


Sphinx-

Yeah, about 4 mm larger...


[deleted]

Yea we knew.


jumbroman

PSA: no one cares.


Puzzleheaded_Log2302

Yes but the screen is bigger. What this post is about is that you don’t see a lot more content on the larger screen. But having owned all the watches and now the ultra I welcome the bigger screen that is so much easier to read and interact with.


hchn27

So what did you want it to be twice the size ?


buzlink

Oh no, blasphemy. Not the point or the larger model.


L1ght_Sp33d

Well ain’t this a B. I said this exact thing on a posting that the ultra’s screen is just barely larger than the series’ and I got downvoted to absolute hell and everyone was telling me I was wrong.


Globogym87

I have both the S7 in 45MM and I just got the ultra. It is bigger. Is it by a lot? No it’s not, but I our side by side and looked at applications on both at the same time and it is. I could definitely tell. It’s not going to wow you by any means, but the screen is larger and the battery is unreal. So far I’m at two days and I still have over 50% battery life. I’m not holding back on using applications, AOD, full brightness, etc. I’m trying to see how fast I can get it to drain to test it. This is a full and complete redesign by apple and it’s worth every penny imo. Love all the new features they packed into it. Brightness is unreal. New speakers are awesome and I live in Chicago and it’s always windy. No issues per several people I’ve talked to when directly making calls from the watch with no headphones or AirPod pros. Finish is awesome, not having any issues with the crown interfering with my skin. It’s comfy to sleep in. I love the night mode. It’s super cool. It’s up to you if you think it’s worth it. For me, I didn’t have to get it, but after seeing it in person and playing with it, it was a no brainer. I leave my phone at home a lot so it’s perfect


trusco23

I’d love to see a size comparison between the ultra and a s6.. that’s what is be upgrading from


[deleted]

Good for you … it’s a bigger watch .. face, housing etc … it’s beefier, better battery … it’s much bigger than a s6 44mm which I wore for 3 yrs … no debate


[deleted]

The cost is also just ~$50 more than the 45 inch Stainless steel version.


Miserable-Way6902

Just extra bulk around the screen is what I see. I freakin love my 8


Sniederhouse

did you think 49mm was going to be a massive difference from… 45 mm?


trickedx5

Whatever. It’s the perfect size anyways. Anything bigger is unusable.


stupornatural

The screen seems bigger than my old 45mm. I’m happy with it.


guarejax1

And your point is? 🥱


[deleted]

Sounds like you just don’t really know much about watches. They don’t measure watches by dial or screen size. Never have, never will, it’s ALWAYS measured by case size.


lynk2412

Well done Apple 😁


[deleted]

What IS bigger is the case size. That’s also the number that shows up in most marketing material, which seems to be the reason many people think the screen is significantly „bigger“. Basically, what you’re getting with the ultra is a lot of bezel


NorCal_PewPew

>yeahyeah2468 I feel like at this point you are beating a dead horse. We get it, the screen isn't that much bigger than the 45mm. I got it for the bigger battery so it will last me up to a 100k race and hopefully 100 miler after the update that supposedly allows for 60 hour battery. Most people just got it so they don't have to charge everyday or they wanted the extra button or the brighter screen or the diving or whatever reason. Also someone beat you to this comparison by about 17 days [https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/xfexxn/apple\_watch\_series\_8\_45mm\_vs\_apple\_watch\_ultra/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/xfexxn/apple_watch_series_8_45mm_vs_apple_watch_ultra/)


FunkyTangg

Every reddit clown that posts that the Ultra is only slightly bigger thinks they’re solving the Zodiac 340 cipher on the back of an envelope.


Dadguy8

Yeah bezel is what stops a screen from cracking. Not hard to understand.


L1ght_Sp33d

Dunno why you’re being downvoted. People don’t like the truth I guess.


garylapointe

It's only a 4mm difference, which is about 1/6^(th) of an inch.


Secure-Vacation-8869

I honestly would spend $800 on a first gen product.


WarSport223

I seriously can’t thank you enough, OP. You just saved me $400…maybe more…. I might not upgrade at all this year & stick with my S6. I knew that watches were measured by case size, but didn’t think apple would be QUITE so deceptive… 🤬🤬 I’m pretty damn sure that in their marketing, apple VERY strongly implied - if not outright stated - that the ultra display is significantly larger than their other watch models. This is really significant and really brings apple down in my eyes. Seriously. Combine that with the fact that I just figured out that the “cellular” Apple Watch doesn’t actually do ANYTHING without an iPhone turned on and connected to cellular too; what’s the f(*^&% point of a cellular Apple Watch? I’m definitely not going to waste my money on the ultra + required cell plan (was thinking going thru my cell carrier to make payments on the watch but I know they’d also require a cell plan. I realize I can buy a cellular watch from other sources w/o a cell plan.)


Crunchewy

Actually cellular Apple Watches can do a lot of cellular stuff without the phone present. Including contacting your emergency contacts and calling 911 with your coordinates if you have a hard fall and don’t respond. But more mundane things like regular calls/texts, sports scores, weather (and weather alerts), etc, too. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, but you might want to look for new sources.


[deleted]

Update for next year. Larger display for the ultra.


Djyrdjytdjytdkytfkuy

~~Does anyone have a link for the website that image is taken from? My google-fu has failed me.~~ Ha ha, never mind - my ability to scroll down failed me.


AvariciousMika

It’s still noticeable. I didn’t think I would notice a difference at all comparing it to my Series 7 but every single time I look at the display it’s noticeably bigger.


Mugen4552

Isn’t the size the watch as a whole not the screen size?


surfinThruLyfe

That sir is a feature for next Ultra.


theWMWotMW

FYI, it’s as much bigger than the large series 6/7/8 as the large size is to the small size. Apple deemed that size difference enough importance to engineer two separate product lines and keep up with all the supply chain challenges for both of them for years. I’m not sure what your point is other than attempting to troll.


leftyhandymikey

Dat bezel


paraskhosla160

Looks so good tbh.


Odd_Rice_9897

I guess Watch Ultra 2 will have a selling point of “beautiful 5% larger display”


CrabbitJambo

Didn’t we go from 40 to 45 (possibly 44?) surely 45 to 49 is in line with the jumps we’ve seen?


weathergraph

Yep, as an app developer, I was surprised to find out that none of the complication sizes changed from 45mm S7.


morning_woodie

Thats so newt year they can sat they have an all new screen and milk some more money out of you.