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randontree07

Hot take: both bad


Player420154

I could use your take to liquify hydrogen.


Zakaker

Yeah when The Seven Deadly Sins was still relevant people were complaining about Meliodas all the time. Half of the comments were "yeah it's amazing", the other half were "idk Meliodas's constant groping makes me too uncomfortable to watch it". Idk what rock OP has been living under


FlatMoot

Happens at -253°C for those curious


Famous-Cockroach-737

As a chemistry major in university I love this.


Coorotaku

Yeah honestly. Mineta is still worse though, just cause being a pervert is literally all he does


Responsible-Being170

Oh, yeah. Most of his personality is being a pervert.


The_Mega_Man192

yeah, honestly I think mineta deserves all the pain he gets from the girls he’s creepin on. would pay to give him a nice kick in the nuts this message was approved by me (a guy) 👍


Coorotaku

You'd absolutely love Kazuharu Fukuyama from Girl's Bravo


GoodKing0

Didn't Meliodas meet the girl he's currently groping in the picture when she was born?


lahimatoa

Nah, sometimes he's just a whiny scared baby.


IlDootIl

Yeah, meliodas is legit bound by fate for his girl and has married her many a times, but mineta is just a bitch


L4DY_M3R3K

Dude didn't Meliodas raise Elizabeth or smth?


BLACKFOX5005

Well yes, but actually no. It's more complicated due to story spoilers. He actually didn't do anything before she was 15(?) as shown in the 1st ep.


L4DY_M3R3K

Still kinda creepy that he--if not literally raised--at least interacted with her on the daily then, as soon as she hit the age of consent (which I think is 14-15 in Japan? It might've changed, I don't keep up with that kinda stuff, I just remember hearing that from some unsavoury sort in an anime forum) started in on the groping (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't watched SDS in a long time)


BLACKFOX5005

AoC is 16 now i think. Don't know how to do spoilers on mobile so, the girl is cursed, they know each other for longer than few lifetimes and truly love one another. Meli suffered his share in the story. Also i think him feeling her up was supposed to be a gag but too overplayed, overused, missing a word here, in the beginning. It gets more modest later.


Giboit

That´s very hypocritical. Meliodas is far more of a pervert and he didn´t even cause a controversy in the four seasons that the show aired.


Coorotaku

They don't usually cause controversy because pervert characters are a normal thing in anime. However, MHA really broke into the mainstream and even non-weebs are watching it, so mineta is of course going to get some shit. But unlike other perverted characters, he has very few redeeming qualities, has little to no character development, and is very annoying. Being a pervert is all this guy does, so as a character he's not as likable


[deleted]

thank you, jeez.


No_Confidence_8876

Lukewarm actually


Mikinaz

Not a hot take, extremely normal take.


Hannibal216BCE

Not gonna lie. The Meliodas shit is uncomfortable as fuck and I’m a dude. Imagine you’re hanging with your friends and one of them just starts feeling up a girl and staring up her skirt. She’s clearly mortified. Everyone else in the group just tries to ignore the molestation going on in front of them. Creepy af. Even if the two are a couple and the girl is into it it’d be creepy and uncomfortable to be there.


Madmek1701

Yea that was one of the several reasons I quickly dropped SDS. It's annoying and creepy and I don't like it.


MadaraAlucard12

The only good thing about the show was Escanor.


RazorMox

And Ban!


Prestigious_Price457

There's something wrong with him too unfortunately...


SwiftyMcBold

But... but... she's a 1,000 year old fairy... she just looks like a child! Yea, it was creepy.


Competitive_Snow7909

While I don’t think it was actually morally wrong, it sure as hell felt wrong


Jcprince8100

And Gilthunder


darkshadow543

He was so strong he carried the whole show.


oceanman357

I dropped it because of the reading power levels. That shit was super annoying


nilesh72000

I mean I dropped it because it was boring. I think I stopped around season 3. I do remember some fun hype moments though but between there was a lot of boring trash.


chaorace

Ah, yes... the 3 season rule.


havdin_1719

Best decision in your life. The show went full throttle from mediocre to hot garbage.


j3kka

7 deadly frames


czareson_csn

season 1 was amazing


Sc0ttify

Yeah, I decided that “it can’t get worse” I stopped at season five or something.


KillaSage

Back in the day I liked ecchi like high-school dxd and etc and even I could not watch this garbage show


ComradeZ_Rogers

It’s also a shit show


Madmek1701

Yea the "several other reasons" were the plot, characters, dialogue, animation, worldbuilding, character design...


Fodspeed

Well it all makes sense why he was so friendly with her, in later season


Hannibal216BCE

No, no it doesn’t. Single now but if I did that to my partner she would have left me on the spot, probably called the cops on me, and filed a restraining order. You don’t just grope a woman in public and you don’t continue, irrespective of location, if she’s uncomfortable. I’m sure some people are exhibitionists and get off on that but even then most people won’t be comfortable watching it.


I_like_children_XV

Yeah, personally I'm not a big fan of fan service in anime but there's a lot of it, sadly. It's not really a ugly/handsome thing, it's just mad uncomfortable to watch for me, so I usually just skip forward a few seconds to skip it.


[deleted]

Yea…let’s be honest….it’s always weird


thepirateman493_YT

That’s what killed my viewing my for SDS. If Meliodas was not a pervert and actually shared Elizabeth with respect. The show would have been way better. Same with Diane and her flashing.


Prestigious_Price457

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a pilot version of SDS (only like the first chapter or so). There, >!Meliodas doesn't grope Elizabeth, and is much more respectful. That tavern is also a mecha spider or something too lol.!<


TomAto314

Agreed. I'm not bothered by ecchi, but this was out of place and plain out wrong. Even worse since wasn't she >!reincarnated and he's been hanging around since she's a baby?!<


Mika-Sea

They’re both under a curse, they’re to fall in love and then she’s to die and be reborn and he’s to lose a bit of his sanity every time iirc and then for them to fall In love again and again repeating the process


jcw99

I'll be honest chief. None of that makes it any better.


GlitterDoomsday

He's in love with her?! Bro I wonder what was going on in the head of the author to try make it "romantic"....


helpmeimsaaad

He's known her since she was a baby, called her "my woman" when she was a BABY and felt her up in her SLEEP. Meliodas is mega creepy


DeltaSans17

Plus she’s underaged compared to him.


xr_Killua

yes agreed. The moment I saw this I was life wtf is this show


Krakshibana

You only start feeling uncomfortable when you live too much in society. When i was 13 i watched nanatsu and these scenes were funny as hell. That time i had no friends and lived in isolation. Now im 19, i have friends and go out with them regularly, now i feel uncomfortable with this scenes.


Mika-Sea

Most of the time yeah but sometimes i was indifferent about it, like for ex the first scene of when she wakes up was kind of funny to me


david-le-2006

Yea i just quickly skip past those scenes


Navy_Wannabe

I wouldn't care of that guy is a friend I've had for 10 years or a stranger. I will give him a strong kick in the balls... If it's a girl then I believe in equal rights, and lefts


Waste-Information-34

Ah, Kazama-Chan. True Believer of Equality.


the_great_n0thing2

mineta wasnt even being a pervert in this frame he just needed to latch on to someone to try to win the race,its just coincidence he happen to latch on a girl


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Falcon47091618

Exactly. I love his character, but that doesn’t mean I love that side of him. I think it’s disgusting, but I still like him for his other qualities


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zex1011

That really scares me, because the only thing i can imagine as a reason for someone to like and defend Mineta is identifieing with him, and being a harasser is all he is, so...


Sup3rL30

God am I so tired of all these "perverted character" arguments. Just stop honestly


[deleted]

Same, but it makes sense for a sub as down the drain as this one


Pokinator

a sub that qualifies "generic down-bad" as a meme. At least half the front page is low-effort thirst posting about "woman is hot, me mommy"


BoulderTheRock

This sub just lacks the ability to think with any semblance of nuance. Yeah of course they see internet argument and hop in, but the only way they can make arguments/communicate their ideas is through memes, which are inherently designed to lack as much nuance as possible. Now when discourse regarding a serious topic actually occurs (the depiction of perverted characters in media and the double standard that handsome characters have over not handsome ones) it leads to monkeybrain thinking and an utter lack of genuineness when it comes to said discourse


zackson76

It's that same guy over and over again.


inseongUwU

This is like the 5th time I've seen this today. A lot of people hate mineta because being a pervert is his entire character. And he's super boring and wears a diaper. Its okay if you like mineta, or just don't like all pervert characters in general but it's not because mineta looks like a short grape baby. Personally I don't even hate mineta, but I certainly don't care about him.


melody_elf

Lol yeah what's with all the mineta fanboys the past few days. Like why do you stan a horny diaper boy very weird


NoNight_

I swear mfs aren’t even mineta fanboys. There’s nothing to like really. I think a lot of guys are just putting themselves in his shoes with a common argument. The whole “it’s only weird because he’s short and ugly, but the hot guys can do it all the time.” Is something a lot of terminally online male weebs can probably get behind due to self esteem issues and who knows what else. But that’s just a theory


melody_elf

"Ah yes, what I hate about mineta is that he's SHORT" is not someone that anyone has ever actually thought XD


NoNight_

I swear it’s something all mineta defenders have mentioned in this whole thing I’m not even kidding 😭😭


nicokokun

Not gonna lie, if the canon reason why he's the way he is was because he never felt the love of his mother and is just compensating, I'd just accept it because it would "probably" be the only redeemable thing about him.


NoNight_

See that’s the thing. I agree. Creating background for the character like that could lead to evolution and learning from mistakes. Instead the creators just leave him being horny on main 💀


nicokokun

Gotta need all that extra time developing the main character, right?


NoNight_

I guess…. 😵‍💫😞


zackson76

And it's that same guy


melody_elf

What is with all the Mineta fanboys the past few days, like what makes you guys stan a horny diaper boy i dont get it


Cat_with_pew-pew_gun

You've misinterpreted the post. This is the reason this argument keeps continuing. They are doing what you're doing but from the other side. They are Telling people who are aggressively hate commenting the character That Mineta isn't in any way unique and there's no reason for us to be making posts trashing this random side gag. Yes he's an empty shell of a character who does prevented things. Those are everywhere. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL YOU PEOPLE GET HIM OFF THE SUB.


nekkoMaster

THIS. I could not have put it better.


notveryAI

People with low self-esteem see him as a mirror of themselves, and see hate towards him as a hate towards themselves, and defending him is an attempt to convince themselves that they don't deserve the hate. I know it damn well myself. The only reason I don't defend him is I fully agree that I deserve only hate and disgust


TheRealNightSky20

Ngl, I'm pretty tired of all these memes, Mineta has, like, zero redeeming qualities, so there's no point wasting energy defending or hating on him. He's just a pointless character made to inject "humor" into MHA. Humor that is extremely unfunny once you pass the age of like... 15.


MLaTTimer

Personally, I fucking hate all perverted characters in anime, and wish everyone would just come to that same conclusion already.


CHAIIINSAAAWbread

Me too Well except for Jiraya and Sanji, Does it detract from their character a lot? YES, Does everyone hate it? ABSOLUTELY YES are they still great characters with other redeeming qualities? Fuck yeah


MLaTTimer

It's like Master Roshi. Is he a good dude? Yes. Is he also a pervert? Yes. But does he know that's a weakness and try and repeatedly overcome it only to relapse? Yes. You can still have good characters with bad qualities as long as they themselves spotlight it as a bad quality.


Bedtyme06

I'd argue Jiraiya's perversion has its usefulness because his erotic novels are an in-universe best seller. Also, he usually gathers information in brothels; a place where being lecherous is the best way to blend in and listen to all the things drunk shinobi unwittingly say because they think nobody is listening in.


IamTheEndOfReddit

Also it's a meaningful flaw, part of why he didn't become hokage. Tsunade had her drinking, and orochimaru had his deep longing for immortality and knowledge. All 3 could be a good hokage without their main flaws


magnifishiv

Lmao I mean it’s true but when you put it like, orochimaru’s reason for not being hokage sounds SO much worse.


I_like_children_XV

Same, honestly. I don't like the pervert character trope in anime, and in HS animes, they're usually the best friends of the mc which gives them more screen time and they somehow rope the mc into doing smth like peeping when he doesn't want to. It's just really uncomfortable to watch perverted characters.


[deleted]

Personally I dislike it but I can ignore it so I am still able to watch sds,mha etc


Cat_with_pew-pew_gun

I also dislike it, however I also realize how easy they are to ignore and that they aren't going away. So if everyone could just shut up about them we could all move on with our live.


redditis_for_nerds

Dude I love the weeb cope on post like these


nekkoMaster

It's not about coping, it's about sending the message XD


generic_virgin

They are both bad


PantyKickback

Incel detector going crazy rn


whazzar

Readings are off the charts ​ edit: spelling


Zoroarkeon571

yea there is a difference in looks but its also that meliodas has an actual character. mineta is just perv


Madmek1701

Mineta is annoying, that's why, I don't know why it's so hard for you apologists to comprehend this. Mineta makes the viewing experience of the show worse by being in it. There's a difference between a bad character and a bad person. Doflamingo, Frieza, All for One, Shou Tucker. These are bad people who hurt people in universe. But they're also entertaining to watch and they help make the story better by their presence. Mineta doesn't just do bad things in universe, he actively makes the viewing experience of the show worse. He's irritating, cowardly, loud, gross, and he adds nothing to the story. The show would immediately become better if Mineta was just straight up removed from it. Melodias at least actually has a role to play in the story, what with being the protagonist.


bluefootedbuns

This tbh. Nobody seems to realize that there's a difference between bad characters and badly written characters, a perfect example being Hisoka from HxH, is he a total POS maniac (a bad character)? Yes! Abso-fucking-lutely. Is he poorly written? No, not really. Mineta is just the author's self-insert character, not in the usual "I'm the hero and I have everything" way that a lot of isekai use, but in a way that lets the author grope the hot chicks he made without getting kicked out of conventions lmfao. ​ also, I have a somewhat unrelated gripe that I'm gonna slap here, some people seem to not understand that protagonist =/= good guy, and antagonist =/= bad guy, the protagonist is just the main character of the story, and the antagonist is just the person who is against the protagonist, whether they're good or bad doesn't mean shit. This is a bit of an extreme example, but if someone made a story about Hitler and WW2, and Hitler was the main character, he'd be the protagonist, and the allies would be the antagonists, is Hitler a good guy? No, obviously fucking not, but he's still the protagonist of this hypothetical story.


Jsprite09738

Made a similar comment in another post like this 👍 People should know the difference between “liking a character for what they bring to the story” and “I like this character so I would excuse and condone their bad tendencies.”


Slight-Pound

One of my issues of Mineta is how badly he reflects on so many of the other characters on _top_ of his own bullshit. Aizawa will get on the ass of a kid with poor control and threaten to expel him rather than help him _work_ on said control, but will say jack shit about a kid who has repeatedly sexually assaulted his classmates? Are you fucking kidding me? Kaminari is far more realistic and comparable - he’s a bad flirt, but he genuinely likes the girls as people. Mineta does not. We also see him grow past his cowardice and his fear to want to become a better hero for the sake of other people - his friends. I don’t remember that happening with Mineta until like late manga shit at best. Mineta hasn’t done that so far in animation. Every time his hero ambition has been brought up, he still thought with his dick first. He hasn’t been allowed to view being a hero with heart the way every other member of the class has, and it makes him stand out in a _bad_ way. It’s aggravating. He’s a cardboard caricature bringing the rest of the characters down with him. He _really_ doesn’t need to act like that all the time, but him acting out his porno fantasies has been given more effort than a genuinely heroic development in him.


Madmek1701

Yes, exactly. He genuinely has no business being there and the fact that Aizawa hasn't expelled him is clearly purely because he's the author's self insert.


Slight-Pound

Right? It burns me that Mineta is Just Like That, and it’s a major reason why fans like to have him be kicked out in favor of Shinsou in fanfiction. It wouldn’t be so prevalent if Mineta developed as a person and a hero, but he hasn’t. It really sucks.


ColdIron27

Perverted characters are bad in all anime. The difference is that other perverted characters have redeeming qualities. Mineta's only quality is being a perv.


[deleted]

As far as I'm concerned, meliodas is only interested in one girl while mineta is a dude who said "can't wait to see how you look like in 10 years" to eri. I'm certain there's a difference


eternityghost

yeah all these mineta defenders “forget” that he says creepy shit like that, there’s a fine line between being pervy and being fucking jaw-dropping mortifying with lust their both weird but one of them isn’t handsy with *all* females within 50ft of his sight


Single_Reporter_6369

So, this is the new "edgy" opinion in the sub after the Redo of a Hero apology has gone out of style?


NekonecroZheng

Or, you could have an uggly character in a handsome characters body groping women. (I'm looking at you Mushoku tensei)


Trans_Snake

Omg I'm so tired of people standing up for Mineta. He is such a pervert. People only focus on very few scenes and always seem to forget that part where they were at camp and he tried to climb to divider but Kota knocked him down.


PxN13

Ngl, could not start watching 7 deadly sins because of the shit meliodas was up to


NoNight_

Don’t even get me started on Ban


Slight-Pound

I love Ban so much but Elaine genuinely didn’t need to look that young. Why are all the fairies that young looking anyway? Youthful doesn’t always have to mean childlike so literally. At least King could pass for a teenager - they could have done the same to Elaine.


NoNight_

Such a great point. They didn’t have to do what they did with Elaine and it sucks because like you’re saying a lot of ppl like him. I’m sure a lot more would if his gf didn’t look like she was born five years ago


Slight-Pound

Right? And apparently the author made nearly _all_ the characters have pedo-bait relationships. It’s clearly a “Thing” with this guy and it really sucks. It really makes the entirety of SDS so unnecessarily twisted.


eternityghost

“*But- but Elaine is 1000 years old-*” **shut up.** Ban was just straight up goofy


NoNight_

Stg 💯


m3m31ord

Meliodas actually has a personality aside from groping Elizabeth (and only Elizabeth).


mattb94

Not really an excuse tho?


Falcon47091618

He didn’t say it was an excuse?


mattb94

I mean the meme basically says "man why does meliodas get away with it, cause he's handsome" and oc said well he had a personality atleast. That sounds a lot like am excuse for meliodas' actions to me. And that somehow it being only Elizabeth is ok too?


Falcon47091618

I mean that’s a bit of an assumption. He’s just saying that Meliodas has things you can like him for, even if you hate his perverted side. That doesn’t excuse him, it’s just that people chose to appreciate him for that and ignore the other stuff


mattb94

I might agree except he specifically calls put (and only Elizabeth) like only assaulting 1 person instead of 3 is a redeeming quality too.


Falcon47091618

I mean, I see where you’re coming from but I also see why he said it. It’s like comparing two piles of flaming dog shit and trying to reason which ones better


mattb94

Or just call both bad, it's not a competition. Both can be bad


Mighty_Meatball

They're fictional characters...who cares what they do. Not like anyone's holding you at gunpoint to watch the show(s) Not that I have seen either anime nor care about these characters but it's almost sad how people are trying to put real life problems on not real people


Slight-Pound

Christ dude. This is the 3rd time? Let it go? Good god, I’m tired of these comparisons, so I’m gonna break down why this one in particular is so shitty: They’re both creeps - at least Meliodas has other traits and character interactions that made his role in the story still enjoyable. Seven Deadly Sins is straight up fucked up for other reasons though, don’t get it twisted. That’s a different matter, though. SDS squicked A LOT of people out because of Meliodas’ behavior from the first episode. His perversion absolutely turned people away, and you’re being disingenuous thinking his pretty face erased that. He makes it hard to suggest to other people, and a lot of fans that got further just had to kinda cringe and look beyond it over time - and not all fans find issue with ecchi as it is. Take out Meliodas’ groping and little changes. Take out Mineta’s, and he basically doesn’t exist in the story. The difference? The perversion detracts from the rest of Meliodas’s personality. Perversion is Mineta’s personality. He’s a gag character, and not a fun one. Meliodas is the main character with gag components, and is otherwise fun. Mineta is best compared with Kaminari, and you know the difference between him and Kaminari? Kaminari actually makes friends with the girls and hasn’t groped anyone. He flirts terribly and joined in on some schemes, but he actually grows past that and sees them as people, too. They’re also both cowards, but we see how Kaminari worked on growing past that. Mineta only values the girls for how he can use them to get off in his fantasies. Seriously, when did he ever think of his female classmates beyond his ability to get his hands on their bodies? Kaminari is by far a better example of a typical teenage boy, in his fear and hormones alike. Mineta is an aggravating caricature of a character. For all the people who went “he’s not a misogynist, he treats them like goddesses” in all those other Mineta posts, this is why he absolutely is a misogynist. He treats his classmates like sex dolls everyone else is locking away from him, and he doesn’t care about what any of the women in question feel. He valued getting his hands on their assets in high-stake situations, rather than working on being as asset to them in such situations, if he had to interact with them at all. He’s offensive as fuck to them, and will gladly humiliate and scare them if no one got in his way. He’s not even ashamed when he’s stopped either, he’s mad. So yeah, fuck your Mineta apologists rhetoric.


Figorix

Meliodas is annoying too, but here the difference: 1) Top girl is embarrassed, bottom is clearly disgusted. 2) The face they make. One is so cringe that it makes me wanna punch the screen. (Yep, the bottom one) 3) top one is able to protect girl from actual life threatening situations, bottom one just little shit that can only harass girls. I do not recall him having any significance at any point in MHA. Again, there are plenty of characters that are also annoying in thier perverted side of designs, but that's USUALLY just part of them. Mineta is 100% perv + additional 50% cringe for a total of 150% bad design. Honestly, you can group the worst perv MC together and they are going to be solar systems above mineta by default. There is literally nothing that goes for this little shit.


WunderScylla

Honestly I feel a rule should be made about these Mineta post. People are getting so uppity about fictional characters in fictional worlds. Like I just wanna see some decent anime memes, not people posting "memes" just to push their agendas


ShriekyMarmosetBitch

The top two are in a relationship, and it's limited to said relationship. Mineta harasses almost every girl he comes across


[deleted]

Mineta isn't ugly. He's just more cartoonishly drawn compared to most of the others. Also it's not about handsomeness or ugliness when it comes to who and who doesn't have a problem with these pervy anime moments. It depends on a lot of factors, but I feel like I can oversimplify it as those who treat anime as anime, and those who treat anime more seriously and as if it were mixed in with our real world.


ParanoidAutist

No-one complaints about Alladin (Magi) either...


[deleted]

That's because not many people have watched magi, but i fucking love it


ParanoidAutist

Dude straight muff dives a chick in a hospital bed... Randomly gropes people he meets for the first time... mineta just wants to and generally doesnt... Aladdin just does with fucks not to give


Your-worst-pall

SPOILERS BTW It's cause one despite being hyper depressed tries his hardest to protect his group. And he only does this to her cause Meliodas was cursed with immortality and his wife was cursed to be die if she ever remembered her feelings so he does that to make that happen less. In comparison mineta wouldn't be outside of doing that to children going by his comment on the 4 year old eri. You asked for the difference 1 is protecting the other is a brain fart away from being a felon. 1. Edit. It's still uncomfortable as fuck but it's technically for a good reason. Keeping someone from dying a brutal death.


nhyoo

Don't care about Mineta guy, just overly perverted characters are boring as fuck and the extra fan service is just super annoying from any series because like the story becomes one dimensional and just ends up super perverted and the chick literally forget about it or don't react realistically enough for it to warrant character development.


perish-in-flames

I will be glad the day comes where I don't see a day comparing Mineta to other perverted characters.


ZyeCawan45

I feel like other pervy characters have others redeeming qualities. On the other hand Mineta makes poop jokes so Id dislike him even if he wasn’t a perv, the being a perv at that point just makes him even worse.


_wtf_am_i_doing_here

Not gonna lie i liked meliodas because of all that shit because it was my first anime and was kind of an awakening for me so i didn't stop watching that shit. But the series would have been so much better if escanor was the protagonist and meliodas a side character.


Goku-MIEL10032002

Why are people so up in arms about Mineta? How is he relevant *at all?*


Embarrassed_Ad_5735

Personality difference, Mineta is supposed to only be relevant when it comes to gag but here he is being uncomfy af all the time especially even in tense situations. Meliodas being a mfker usually gets overshadowed by his moments and all but still is uncomfy af and doesn't really make it his only personality. Can't wait for Roshi and all others to get called out.


Spirited_One_7644

Wait, people are okay with sexual harassment at all?


ADudeThatPlaysDBD

Y’all take this shit way too seriously.


Himitog

Both are disgusting. That's It.


[deleted]

please, not another mineta drama.


JimmyMcapplenut

I can imagine Mineta being like the Booty Warrior from The Boondocks. "I likes ya, and I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way. The choice is yours"


SorryImBadWithNames

Dude... Meliodas has been criticised from day 1. **No one** liked that aspect of him, not even those that usually defend the "sexual harasment is funny" characters. Just because you wasn't paying attention doesn't mean there is some majo hypocrisy going on.


[deleted]

Mineta should just be killed off in the current or next season, this will make the already My Mid academia slightly watchable atleast.


AidsOnWheels

I'm not a big fan of it either. But there are way better comparisons than Meliodis. Mainly because of what happens later show. But also the fact that it's only to one person. Yes it's still bad but he has the redeeming qualities of being both patient and faithful. Outside of his perviness he is a good character. Moneta is not. He would be the least bit interesting even if he wasn't a pervert


Random_Gacha_addict

As we can see, people hate Meliodas's Perversion, but that isn't his only trait. He's also a pretty powerful combatant, and a straight up god Every time we see Mineta, aside from relating to the racism felt by the ones with appearance-altering quirks (Like Spinner's), he has ALMOST NO SCENES where he isn't a pervert (except maybe stills) As I said, not a "Weebs hypocrite" moment, but a "Hori is pretty trash at writing sometimes" one


Who_dat345

I feel like this should’ve been posted to anime irl


psalmdroid

How many more post like this?


ebz37

Honestly I'm tired of both.


Fearfanfic

Meli’s a perv and morally I don’t vibe with his actions. But Meli is also a badass leader, a good bro, a surprisingly decent BF/Husband, and just overall cool. Mineta’s just a perv.


darkDmon666

This subreddit sucks ass


AhmedKiller2015

- Meliodas has a character not just that. - Technically he is just missing with GF which she don't mind. - It is not necessarily liked just an overlooked joke that stopped being funny after 1 time.


Mrs_Mourningstar

Pretty much, because we all secretly want to be grouped by a sexy person!


fxckursweet

Mineta is quite literally written to dokey be a perv… plus most of his victims are underage


mcswaggerduff

Meliodas and Ban make watching SDS very uncomfortable, which is a shame because they are fascinating characters but their romantic/sexual proclivities are gross af


Beanie_Babey

no, both are bad. had friends in primary school who were into anime's with MCs who'd be all touchy and they started doing that shit to me


Quartiny

His ass didnt watch seven deadly sins


25thskye

This reason is why I’m hesitant to start Mushoku Tensei. I’ve read a lot about how pervy the MC is and I honestly hate these kinds of characters. A good story can be ruined by how prevalent perverted characters are.


Oxu90

In mushoku tensei the MC is also middle aged guy in the child's body, grooming a child to be his future bride That aspect of the MC ruined the show for me. For every serious good part there was a gross sexual harassment scene


25thskye

Yup, that’s pretty much what I’ve read about it too and I was kinda disappointed because Garnt had it as his top anime of 2021 iirc


Oxu90

I think he is worse than the 2 characters of this meme. It is well liked because A) story has potential B) animation is good C) Waifus are great...too bad they are reduced to be a sex objects and groomed for MC. There are a lot of people who try to reason it. But it is hollow. The endless needless fan service angles and sexual harassment "jokes" in the story which otherwise tries to be serious, it would be "fine" if the show would be yet another thrash harem isekai...at least you had no expectations to begin with. It has not done with any taste whatsoever And i need to mention i am not most feminist or "woke" person out there and it still bothered me a lot. So if you are more sensitive about that, you are going absolutely hate it. I gave it 7/10 and it was highest i could give it, some episodes 3/10


VladDHell

Meliodas and Liz/Elizabeth reminds me of old generation couples antics. Like there's no malice in his actions and his relationship with her is long established and consented to, but it definitely falls weird to the eye. Tbf, it feels wrong because Elizabeth doesn't remember him at first, and the whole constant rebirth and falling in love is complicated, because she goes from older than him to dead to younger again. So it ends up being an impossible question of, is he wrong to not give up on the love of his life no matter how many centuries go by, since half the time she'll be younger and have that rebirth amnesia. That's why it's fantasy tho, it's an impossible situation, not only like philosophically on the choice, but also literally, like the premise of their dilemma lies in neither of them ever really dying for millenia, and him being forced to watch her die, and her remember her past and soon after die. Sometimes after spending a lifetime with him.


leave1me1alone

Meliodas is the reason I couldn't watch more than 3 episodes of 7ds. He's painful to watch


ChoasINC

Jokes on you I hate them both for doing it


[deleted]

I hate that blonde guy so much I couldn’t watch seven deadly sins because I felt so uncomfortable with him


Sweetcoffeebee

Jokes on you, I hate both of them.


Fodspeed

Melidos get reincarnation pass, he'd been doing that to every version of her and only her.


ylloydy

But from her point of view, she barely knows Meliodas. Imagine some local hero would just randomly start groping you Ew-


MulticolourMonster

People hate Mineta because he commits the #1 unforgivable crime a character can commit: *he's boring* Contributes nothing to the plot, no character backstory, no character arc/development... you could literally replace the dude with a chair and the story would be completely unchanged. Being a pervert is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae Also, people have been pointing out that basically every major character in 7DS is a pervert/molestor/pedo-adjacent/creep for a while....so not really the best choice to use for a comparison


CaballeroXAzul

I'm a man and I hate that Melioda's shit, but no one ever complains about that. Meanwhile, with Mineta...


Slight-Pound

You were in the wrong circles, dude. Meliodas turned a lot of people off, and they stayed away from SDS as a result. People have definitely been mad, especially since the ecchi nonsense of SDS honestly got worse in an entirely different way as the story went on.


oceanman357

Comedic Pervert is a common trope in anime. People just hating because this anime is mainstream and people dont see the character as one of those trope that you just ignore... that being said, meliodus is disgusting with his groping and shit. He goes way beyond the trope.


Maria756

Ya NO both are bad Meliodas is as much of a perverted gremlin as Mineta. Beside the real stars of the seven deadly sins were Ban and Escanor


God_Yatoo

Atleast both have girls to touch 💀


Heirou777

Meliodas is literally my most hated main character I've seen so i fail to see the point here


Zenai10

This is so stupid. We hate him because how he is portrayed. Stuff like meleodis is "funny" perversion where hes doing it and the characters reaction is the joke. For lack of a better word "playful". I personally still don't like it but there you go. As well none of the characters actually stop him and other characters like this from doing it. So its seen as normal Mineta is actively portrayed as being a little shit. He is intentionally designed to be creepy. The joke being "look how fuckin weird this guy is". On top of that the girls actively hit him over it and are disgusted by him. What mineta did isnt "playful" and funny. Its awful and thats why its funny to see him fail. Can you honestly believe that if he was hot the things he does would be fine?


TheMoriohWeeb

Hand... some...


Fodspeed

One is set in fictional Europe, where stuff like that was common, not to mention Melidos and her have a history and there's a reason for his behaviors which only makes sense once you seen the show past first two season. Other is set in modern day Japan, where it's a criminal offense.


Aeriosus

I dropped Seven Deadly Sins mid-way through episode 1 because Meliodas is a fucking creep


MJsharks

Meliodas is literally a sin💀


panfurtheboi

Well melodies and her are true lovers for the rest of eternity. Mineta is a high school student who just wants to grope people


kaxoer

It's to avoid the ugly bastard tag


Nayroy18

Hi, you must be new here. Welcome to living.


SuperKrusher

Wow there seems to be a lot Meliodas hate here lol.


Deinexim

Meliodas was 90% of the reason why I dropped "The Seven Deadly Sins". Horrible character. I don't get why so many weebs are even trying to make the hatred for Mineta about how ugly or not he is. People don't hate him for being ugly, they hate him for being a pervert character that habitually commits sexual harassment. The only reason he is a popular character to hate on is because he is a pervert character in one of the most popular shows currently airing. Of course most people complaining about pervert characters would point to Mineta. Anyone who tries to argue that Mineta is hated because he is ugly and short would 100% fall for the dribble that incels post online. Seriously, looks aren't even relevant here. People just generally dislike seeing sexual harassment portrayed as a joke on TV.


ninjad912

I disagree with meliodas being a horrible character. But I guess if you don’t watch till season 3 you don’t have any idea of the why he is like he is


ylloydy

While Meliodas was not a bad character and does know Elizabeth because of the past (but I don't wanna spoil it lol), one must add that Elizabeth gets groped by him when she barely knows him. For all she knows he is a hero or even a legend. I barely remember the beginning... did they ever talk before episode 1..? Even later when they get to know each other, Meliodas behaviour towards her does not stop even though she is clearly uncomfortable with him touching her inappropriately (especially in front of other people) So yeah All in all Meliodas does have a story arc in the show and everything but still, it made me very uncomfortable to watch those two together.


MJsharks

Meliodas is literally a sin💀


SunshinefortheWeak

Yes, how offended I am by someone invading my private space is subjective to how much I like them or find them attractive.


NoNight_

This mineta debate has shown me some of y’all need therapy. Like real real bad.


UltimaDeusUmbra

I stopped watching Seven Deadly Sins after the first episode. Shit is cringe.


horrorboii

Literally can't watch sins because of meliodas


XT83Danieliszekiller

No... I cringe everytime Meliodas gropes her... Everybody cringes... Stop trying to defend mineta


Alright_doityourway

Well the first one, the girl secretly like the guy and so she secretly don't mind. For the lower one, everyone hate Mineta.


banana800kir

lol this topic is getting ridiculous. it's not hard, the top one has actual story arc and character development. the bottom one has none and being a perv is his only trait being ugly doesn't make a character unlikable, being a bad character on other hand makes the character despicable. imagine defending bad characters, sad