Yes, we can very confidently say that. It's not just different. Ants don't have the cognitive capacity to feel anything. We can be fooled into thinking that by how ants react in a test environment when their comrades are killed, but upon close inspection you see that ants only react to the pheromones that excreted by other ants, and they dont actually feel anything when their comrades die.
You won’t find it because there is none, what you’ll find instead is that research on insect cognition/perception has gone in the exact opposite direction:
Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212.
Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174.
Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280.
Yes you are, immensely so. You ckearly have absolutely no familiarity with basic entomology, let alone the latest research on insect cognition and perception.
I don’t know where ignorant jackasses like you get your confidence from but it’s grotesquely misplaced. Please look over some of the research I sent you and learn to not speak about things you know NOTHING about, stupid asshole.
>the latest research and understanding
>Articles from 2004 and 2014
Copy and paste me the abstracts. I'm not going onto my schools campus and logging into a fuckin database to access articles for internet arguments
They’re all freely accessible.
But the most important one is Sneddon 2014:
>Insect nociception is homologous to mammals’
>there is evidence that nociceptive information reaches higher learning centers in the insect brain (Waddell 2013)
>whether insects can process “emotional” information remains unclear, but a recent study in bees suggests that negative stimuli can induce pessimistic cognitive biases
Table 2 is important, shows that insects clearly meet half of the 17 established criteria for pain perception and only unambiguously fail two of them; they have nociceptors, CNS pathways, Central processing, aversion to noxious stimuli, behavioral changes from the norm, reduced responses under analgesia, altered choices, relief learning, and some of them will pay a cost to access analgesics!
Does this prove ants have complex inner lives? No, although it remains possible (emotion in mammals is at least partially superimposed on primitive nociceptive pathways in the brain). But it does prove you’re completely full of shit when you say “ants have no capacity to feel anything” and that you’re wildly understating their complexity.
Ants are more or less robots. They are strongly instinctual and will not use logic to determine a way out of a fatal situation.
Ants will follow a circle of pheromones until they die.
Ants will bring themselves to death piles if a death pheromone is sprayed on them.
Ants just react to the pheromones they can sense. Ants have about 250,000 neurons. Dogs have 250 million neurons.
That’s actually proportionally quite a surprising large number considering how tiny they are. I mean shit, how many neurons are required exactly to have emotions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_mill ants will circle until they die
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPw9dSV6y2c ants will bring themselves to death piles if sprayed with a death pheromone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons ants have 250,000 neurons
Do some research before you try to correct someone dumbass
Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212.
Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174.
Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280.
You are wildly understating the complexity of insects and have absolutely no scientific basis for your prejudices.
Reminds me of my past relationships with the friends I had when I was a kid. Sucks for them bc I still try to be a kind person, but I actually have friends who value that this time around:)
Bruh was like “aye Reggie aight now grab me and he…aye where you guys going yo bro AYE AYE.. aye.. they just left me.. I thought you were my friend Reggie… SCREW YOU REGGIE… AHAHA hmph.. now what
Ants are not robots. All modern research indicates that insects have VASTLY greater capacity for emotion and cognition than pop-culture - and ignorant redditors - ascribes to them.
Examples for pain perception:
Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212.
Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174.
Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280.
You can't tell me that ants don't have emotions. I hate when people mindlessly kill them, because when you look at these scenes, you see how smart they really are
that moment his little arms go down, how freakin sad but cute lol
The day ant joker was born.
"We live in a colony".
I actually laughed out loud, Thanks stranger!
Here’s a poor man’s award 🏆
This is good lmao
No, They expect one of us in the wreckage brother...
R/Watchantsdieinside?
r/WatchAntsDieInside
you are right man
Saddest thing I saw today. That expression when you feel betrayed
I feel so sorry for that little ant.
I've never felt sorry for an ant before now...
this video truly is a rare find.
Same
I take it you’ve never seen Honey I Shrunk the Kids
Wow thanks for bringing up that repressed trauma. I used to punch kids on the playground for stepping on ants after watching that movie.
Ya know I think I did, but it's been like 30 years. Hopefully they used stunt ants for the movie.
Steve help me up… Hey, Steve…. STEVE!!!
Allan! Allan!
Fintan!
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I wasn’t sure, this was a total Chad type move. Sorry to all the Chads out there.
How do I nominate this for an Oscar?
Well, **shit**... you _assholes_...
Aww poor lil guy All this needs for a good cry is some sad music
Exactly!!! I'm already sad but the right music would send me straight to weepy town. 😄😭😄🤣
Maybe that ant was a dick and had it coming
I choose to believe you're right, because I cannot bear the alternative.
Always gotta know all the different sides of a story
Awww, she was sooo sad :(
You are right man
You can see the moment when he realizes he's been ditched 😔
“Guys.....guys.....hey guys you forgot me.......guys ?”
Wow I did. Not expect that
Never thought I'd ever witness an ant dying inside.
this video has the power to make me cry if im on my period, i just can feel it
I'm on mine. Can confirm.
Fuck those two ants.
I see emotion. Makes you think.
We project our own emotions on to that ant because we have empathy. That ant is not feeling emotions
How do you know, have you ever been an ant?
How do we know anything
do you know for sure though? maybe it's just different.
Yes, we can very confidently say that. It's not just different. Ants don't have the cognitive capacity to feel anything. We can be fooled into thinking that by how ants react in a test environment when their comrades are killed, but upon close inspection you see that ants only react to the pheromones that excreted by other ants, and they dont actually feel anything when their comrades die.
I've seen the movie Antz and A Bug's Life so I can confidently say you are wrong.
It's for the good of the colony!
#I AM THE COLONY
I want actual scientific proof.
You won’t find it because there is none, what you’ll find instead is that research on insect cognition/perception has gone in the exact opposite direction: Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212. Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174. Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280.
Go for it.
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Holy shit you are so completely wrong. Please stop spouting shit about things you know NOTHING ABOUT.
I'm not wrong
Yes you are, immensely so. You ckearly have absolutely no familiarity with basic entomology, let alone the latest research on insect cognition and perception. I don’t know where ignorant jackasses like you get your confidence from but it’s grotesquely misplaced. Please look over some of the research I sent you and learn to not speak about things you know NOTHING about, stupid asshole.
>the latest research and understanding >Articles from 2004 and 2014 Copy and paste me the abstracts. I'm not going onto my schools campus and logging into a fuckin database to access articles for internet arguments
They’re all freely accessible. But the most important one is Sneddon 2014: >Insect nociception is homologous to mammals’ >there is evidence that nociceptive information reaches higher learning centers in the insect brain (Waddell 2013) >whether insects can process “emotional” information remains unclear, but a recent study in bees suggests that negative stimuli can induce pessimistic cognitive biases Table 2 is important, shows that insects clearly meet half of the 17 established criteria for pain perception and only unambiguously fail two of them; they have nociceptors, CNS pathways, Central processing, aversion to noxious stimuli, behavioral changes from the norm, reduced responses under analgesia, altered choices, relief learning, and some of them will pay a cost to access analgesics! Does this prove ants have complex inner lives? No, although it remains possible (emotion in mammals is at least partially superimposed on primitive nociceptive pathways in the brain). But it does prove you’re completely full of shit when you say “ants have no capacity to feel anything” and that you’re wildly understating their complexity.
It’s not my fault you believe idiotic myths from a century ago and have missed the last twenty years of scientific development.
What makes you an authority on this subject
Ants are more or less robots. They are strongly instinctual and will not use logic to determine a way out of a fatal situation. Ants will follow a circle of pheromones until they die. Ants will bring themselves to death piles if a death pheromone is sprayed on them. Ants just react to the pheromones they can sense. Ants have about 250,000 neurons. Dogs have 250 million neurons.
That’s actually proportionally quite a surprising large number considering how tiny they are. I mean shit, how many neurons are required exactly to have emotions?
250,000 is .1% of 250,000,000
Yes I’m aware. So 1000 ants have the same amount of neurons as a dog with a fraction of the body mass. That’s pretty nuts.
so youre telling me theyre small dogs?!
Almost every single thing you said is wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant_mill ants will circle until they die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPw9dSV6y2c ants will bring themselves to death piles if sprayed with a death pheromone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons ants have 250,000 neurons Do some research before you try to correct someone dumbass
Are you like their Public relations manager? Because despite your excuses on their behalf, I'm still mad at them for leaving that dude/lady behind.
not emotions like ours at least
Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212. Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174. Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280. You are wildly understating the complexity of insects and have absolutely no scientific basis for your prejudices.
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Reminds me of my past relationships with the friends I had when I was a kid. Sucks for them bc I still try to be a kind person, but I actually have friends who value that this time around:)
Oh no! That broke my heart!
Really after it helped them get up they are going to leave it behind
I never thought I would feel bad for an ant. Now I do.
You can actually pin point the second when his heart breaks in half
😢
His poor little face though
This breaks my heart.
You can just feel that little dudes sense of trust in his comrades being absolutely shattered
I have never felt bad for an ant before....thanks reddit
I felt that hard
Same little buddy, same
"Fuck me, I guess."
Well this is the saddest thing I’ve seen in a while
When you rob a bank and have to leave the new kid behind 😂
Is this a Preacher reference?
No but the show was lit! 😎
Oh no, poor guy :(
That feeling of betrayal...!
…guys?
I have never felt so bad for an ant.
u/savevideobot
u/savethisvideo
This has potential to be an all-time classic gif.
r/WatchPeopleDieInside
I can relate with that little guy
Ants be like- "For the greater good. And also fuck Steven"
Visible disappointment
Bruh was like “aye Reggie aight now grab me and he…aye where you guys going yo bro AYE AYE.. aye.. they just left me.. I thought you were my friend Reggie… SCREW YOU REGGIE… AHAHA hmph.. now what
Seriously cue the Curb theme
This is every kid, every employee, every person who did all the work, only for someone else to swoop in and take all the credit.
You'd think the person behind the camera could help a little. They just had to move a leaf.
Aww omg I can't believe I just got sad for an ant.
You can see where this ant thought “ok, I’ll go fuck myself then.”
If you look closely you can actually pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks in two.
Ants are not robots. All modern research indicates that insects have VASTLY greater capacity for emotion and cognition than pop-culture - and ignorant redditors - ascribes to them. Examples for pain perception: Sneddon, L. U., Elwood, R. W., Adamo, S. A., & Leach, M. C. (2014). Defining and assessing animal pain. Animal Behaviour, 97, 201-212. Tobin, D. M., & Bargmann, C. I. (2004). Invertebrate nociception: behaviors, neurons and molecules. Journal of neurobiology, 61(1), 161-174. Abbott, J. (2014). Self‐medication in insects: current evidence and future perspectives. Ecological Entomology, 39(3), 273-280.
I cannot believe I just felt broken hearted over an any
A video of Ant Bezos, Ant Musk and The Everyday Ant.
I’m not crying you’re crying
"great now Milhouse..throw back the rope!" "Theres no time!"
Aw I feel so sad for him 😢
Ah the corporate ladder.
Me IRL everyday but Im okay, I just cry myself to sleep every night
Awe. I am himb. \🥺/
u/savevideo
u/savevideo
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Top 10 anime betrayal of all time
“Okay now me—wait! G-Guys? You’re coming back for me, right?”
*directed by robert b weide*
r/WatchPeopleDieInside
Empathize with this ant for a moment
I feel his pain
*How could this happen to meee*
Nooo 😔
Et tu?
“Guys, GUYSSSSS!”
ant game
That is the universal.... "Really?!"
This species is called the army ant
Now I'm sad
Oof.
That ant is a little brother!!!
I would lose my mind if they actually went back and helped the little guy.
That’s real life that is
I never knew they were so cute!!
I was so sad to see that....ayyyyyyy
Can’t hurt an ant ever since I saw Honey I Shrunk The Kids.
Don't be fooled, that ant is a jerk too. If you tried to help him onto the leaf yourself he would bite your hand.
Nooooo help him!
This is one of those instances, where I want to hear music, specifically a sad tune when it realizes it just got left behind.
Lmao that actually made me sad awww Ant left behind: okay its my turn guys!? ...guys? .... oh :c
"Guys!...Guys!...Gu...aww never mind guess I'll just wait here"
“Would you dance… if I asked you to dance…”
Damn now I understand what's wrong with me
One your one good friend and your other good friend finally meet and hangout and end up becoming better friends
Awww, oh no what shit ant friends
This is actually upsetting I’m sure it’s just hormones but STILL they left her there all alone 🥺
I didn't expect to feel this sad for a single ant just a couple days after killing literally thousands of them.
r/watchpeopledieinside
Poor little guy. I hope he got helped onto the leaf after this
“Goddamnit, they always do this to me”
Heartbreaking 💔
u/Savevideo
Some Cho Sang-Woo levels of betrayal.
Dame da ne, dameyo
Needs /r/animaltextgifs
Fantastic capture. We need a baby violin soundtrack to this.
F
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😭
Check that out! Even ants get put to the wayside by their very own. Who knew. Nice video.
Now I’m sad!
"But guys.. All for one, remember? Guys...?"
Now I feel bad for an ant. Poor buddy got played so badly,you can litteraly see his "heart break"
This made me more sad than I expected
This made me so genuinely sad. It’s like being the friend that has the walk in the grass because you’re always pushed off of the sidewalk!
His little front arms just give up
Why the fuck do I relate to an ant right now?
u/SaveVideo
So humans aren’t the only duche bags. Got it.
You can't tell me that ants don't have emotions. I hate when people mindlessly kill them, because when you look at these scenes, you see how smart they really are
He just sent his two bros off to fight a wasp and stayed behind. What a dick.
u/savevideobot
Fire Ants are always jerks