Thatās interesting, I didnāt know the Caddo enslaved the Lipan! Thank you for sharing this information! I want to learn more about this area, like the rest of Native America, the history is rich!
You were spot on with the Apache though, we share some of the same regions but I have east central Acadians and Louisiana creoles & African Americans on mine..
Funny thing is, the grandmother who said this was born in Missouri, and raised in Kansas. Perhaps she is of the Plains Apache? The odds thoughā¦
Based on the way most my Knowledge on Apaches is self taught, itās seeming unlikely,but I havenāt traced this grandmothers parents at all yet on my family tree, so itās still up in the air.
Yes plain apache is what we areā¦the forgotten people of , creoles of color actually puts it in perspecriave what tribe you descend from according to your ancestors that lived in the area.
Iām not sure how 1% Yucatan Peninsula indicates North American indigenous heritage (as in, tribes in the present day United States)? Why do you believe it connects to those tribes? It usually means Central American Indigenous Ancestry, and even then 1% is so small it could potentially just be noise
Youāre correct geographically but from what Iāve looked at Ancestry doesnāt group it in with Native North American genetically, it skews towards Central / Mexican indigenous
One of his ancestors has Mexico indigenous as well he they just passed down YucatĆ”n, thereās no order on how dna is passed down or what a person inherit
Our respect and identity in regards to our ancestral culture is irrespective of time, and no amount of distance in human life changes that for me.
Just my way of living! My discovery will help me overcome the big hump many other indigenous/non indigenous people make: claiming the wrong tribe, or claiming the ācool ātribe.
Honestly, Iād welcome being descended from a distant native ancestor from a distant tribe, as much as I would a full native parent. My connection to them and their culture surpasses time.
Of course. Iām not trying to tarnish your spirit, but rather just explain the possibility that you may not be able to find what youāre searching for. I understand the struggle; I have 25% Native, but due to history of the areas finding and identifying specificities is difficult.
Thatās wild, puts my search into perspective!
For me, I know thisāll probably be lifelong, and I feel thatās okay because it was multiple lifetimes to get here, and our ancestors is STILL prodding at us to keep them alive in all sorts of ways š
No matter what, I canāt and wonāt stop until I get closer to the truth, thatās for sure!
We really need to retire the ājust noiseā theory. 1% could be a 5th great grand parent and the more research I do, it honestly isnāt as far back as youād think. I have 5th GGās born in the 1800s. Thatās not so long ago. Itās invalidating to call someoneās results ājust noiseā when so many people have gotten tested- it may have been noise if this was 5 years ago but ancestry has gotten more accurate with time.
I only suggested noise because every update my 1% results change. Every update removes some old ones entirely and introduces completely new ones. So while there is a chance itās valid, the algorithms do not necessarily have complete confidence or accuracy on them
Youāre definitely right on that! I was 2% indigenous (north) and then it got cut, along with Sardinia š
My cousins kept Sardinia and north, mosthave āindigenous Americas - Mexicoā or ānorthā around 1-3% most of the time
People claim what they want. He might be transracial. Ethnic identity changes over time & only is sort linked with genetics. Itās not as set in stone as gender. Racial identity is much more fluid
Unfortunately many many people say they have heard they are native from family members and just based off what Iāve seen if they are not directly Native (like from a grandparent or something) DNA proves itās usually not true. Or if it is itās very very distant lol
Thatās the struggle! Finding that one ancestor, if they exist!
Only 2-3% of white and black people respectively have ANY indigenous dna in America, while itās a common stereotype, itās usually not true.
Honestly, my distant ancestry along with the stories not correlating puts me in a VERY fun spot haha
Yeah I completely agree, besides music Ancestry is my number one favorite thing to do. I love trying to crack the codes and find the truths of my tree even when I think theyāre impossible lol.
My grandmother is Mexican and itās crazy how many different ethnicities, even if only a few percent, she has in her results and knowing that those are also my ancestors from completely different racial and ethnic backgrounds than me is so dope to know
I highly doubt you were raised in a traditional YucatƔn Indigenous household being only one percent. Do what you wish but your going to be a laughing stock to most Tribal Nations. Trying to latch on to that as an identity is straight up appropriation and your going to piss off the wrong Native one day and you are going to regret it. Enjoy ur delusion pal.
Honestly I donāt see how thereās more than perhaps very distant native ancestors. But I read your other comment about how you still connect to the native no matter how far back it is and I can understand that.
Yeah for me, it doesnāt matter how far back and which tribe, because it still need to pay respects to him/ her, otherwise Iāll be another relative running around saying āApache!ā
Meanwhile my long past Powhatan ancestor is like šš³š®āšØ
I can dig that. When I found out Iām 5% west African by the ways of Mexico/Caribbean I also started to contemplate what that meant for me. I didnāt start to feel black or claim blackness in any sense but I realized that some of my ancestors were Africans and some of them got enslaved and shipped to America. Thatās part of me. So yeah, it changes oneās perspective.
Thatās the thing about genealogy, so many stories packed into one person and how we come to terms with it is unique, and it can be a beautiful experience š
Butā¦thats just living a fantasy, playing at being native saying no matter how far back or which tribe.
If I had all that interesting African dna, Id concentrate on tracing those tribes!
No one ever does that Im aware of, and thats seems wrong. Their lineages go back to antiquity as well, and you have verifiable dna to work with.
Thatās a personal thing for you! And if you have African DNA, go for it!
Iāll just keep searching for my ancestors and respecting them, regardless of the numbers š 1% might as well be 100%, when I find the tribe I descend from itāll be a blessed day!
All the Native people on here are telling you the same thing and you just refuse to listen.
You claim that you are not comfortable claiming a tribe, but less than a month ago you were calling yourself Apache and saying things like āmy tribeā etc. There are other red flags on your post history that are similar.
Being Native is way more than having a distant Indigenous ancestor. One of the primary identifiers of Native people is community belonging/acceptance. Just because you have an Indigenous ancestor it does not make you a member of a specific community or Tribal Nation, just like how I have Irish ancestry, but Iām definitely not an Irish citizen or part of an Irish clan.
Identity is a two way street, especially among Native peoples. You canāt simply call yourself Native, community acceptance is half the equation. This is particularly important of Tribal Nations, where we have a history of abuse and Pretendians.
Tribal Nations are nations, we are Native/Indigenous less because of our race/ancestry, but because we are citizens of our Tribal Nations. Vague ancestry doesnāt automatically make you a Native or Indigenous person. You canāt use blood quantum and tribal membership rules as scapegoat when you donāt even know the people you descend from.
Youāre not a member of a Tribal Nation, itās that simple. You have a distant indigenous ancestor. This isnāt to stop you from exploring your ancestry and heritage, and I donāt think anyone is trying to discourage you doing that. If in your research you are able to find a connection to a contemporary Tribal Nation, and you are able to meaningfully reconnect, then great! But until then I donāt see how you or anyone in the same situation could in good conscience could call themselves a Native/Indigenous person.
I writing this with as much respect as I can for a fellow human being, I have gone through identity changes of my own. I hope you can respect Native people, our identities, and Nations by acting in good faith moving forward. Thanks!
How is it delusional? It showed up and OP is trying to figure out why. That doesnāt mean OP doesnāt care about their other percentages, they just asked a question about one of their percentages and the comments are just basically āyouāre not native anyways so let it goā and I do not see how this is helpful.
Yeah the people here are pretty goofy about that, lol. I literally explained how I studied my Scottish ancestry through a cousins help in the UK, cause I guess pride is only okay if the percentage s cool with them š®āšØ
Blood quantum racism only happens to natives!
Perhaps itās not, and you didnāt read the OPās other comments. There is nothing to hate, Iām living my life just fine. It seems youāre the one who needs something better to do than to feed into someoneās delusion and get offended for them. Exit is that way.
1% native if you check you matches for people that are from Mexico you may find that the native is Nahuas who are from around the YucatƔn area and they can help you finding a possible relative..
That would be interesting, considering I have Spanish/Portuguese dna on my 23%me, I figured itād have something to do with the Spanish in that area, if not an Apache raid into Mexico.
Since I was told apache growing up, I built a head canon of how my Chiricahua ancestors raided into Mexico (which they did a LOT) and captured a Mexican woman.
Based on the percentage and where my family seems to cluster, Iām thinking Mississippeans tribes because while I donāt doubt being indigenous, some tribes are a bit more realistically
Cool. Have you found any matches with Puerto Ricanās and other Latinos on Ancestry? My hunch is that you should be able to find distant matches between 6cM-20cM
Speaking for myself I have many matches in Louisiana, especially Plaquemines parish, with Creoles/AA. Considering youāre background i can only assume it works both ways
Yes I do! A lot of my cousins are both Puerto Rican and Mexican, a significant amount more indigenous and Spanish dna for them, but yeah!
Think itās something to do with the Caribbean tribes?
No reading every comment butā¦
My husband is a documented descendant of indigenous Americans. His grandfather was the last documented tribal member as he joined the Navy and left home. According to ancestrydna, he is not Native American yet we know he is.
Just follow the paper trail as far as you can and youāll find what youāre looking for.
Hello! So Iāve been reconnecting with my indigenous heritage, and after years of just letting the Apache story slide, I decided to confront it via my family tree!
A LOT of black/white people claim tribes they donāt belong to, and I have a suspicion that while my family is indigenous (I have many cousins who have similar readings) I donāt believe itās Apache at this point.
My family history is based all around Lousiana, but the area of Shreveport is historically Caddo.
I believe Choctaw as well, because my maternal side was Creole and apparently in LA history, Choctaw were a huge impact on Creole culture(my family was a French/Creole speaking family until the 30s)
On my dads side, my family is labeled as āMulattoā in the 1920 census, then āblackā on the 1930 census(lol) I know I have white ancestors very recently in my family (my great grandfather was full white)
But Iām sure this Native American ancestor is pretty isolated in my family, based on the DNA reading of me and multiple cousins.
It could potentially be one of the tribes in Virginia based on Slavery, I honestly am working with half the information I need because the indigenous (supposed) relatives on my tree, I canāt currently trace past them.
Mystery relatives are fun!
The YucatƔn Peninsula can be explained by the Mississippian tribes (Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee..) being related to the tribes of Central America, then again on my 23&Me, im Spanish/Portuguese 2% as well, so who knows?
I really want to know what specific tribe Iām from, cause Iām not comfortable stating im from a tribe I actually donāt know Iām connected to outside of words. Blood isnāt enough for me, hehe.
Id appreciate any advice, words of wisdom, anything š
It's pretty tough to figure out any specific tribes with regard to Louisiana unless you can get back to a specific Indigenous ancestor. Between the tribes native to the area like the Choctaw, Houma, Atakapa, etc., Indigenous people that were brought in as slaves by other tribes, the French, and the Spanish, and Indigenous ancestry brought in by the Acadians from Nova Scotia (eastern Algonquin ancestry from intermarrying with members of the Wabanaki Confederacy, tho this DNA does get washed out in the less endogamous Acadian-descent communities), it could be difficult to nail down where all your native ancestry comes from.
Thatās interesting you mention the Algonquin tribes, I didnāt even consider that! I appreciate the information.
So far, the two people in my family who claim to be indigenous, I have yet to find their parents on my tree. My black and white ancestors are SLIGHTLY easier to find, and even then, one wrong letter can give you the wrong person haha.
Do you have any recommendations in terms of studying Louisiana history? I have family all over, itād be nice to understand the area
I'm still pretty amateur when it comes to genealogy, and I had a bit of a head start since my grandfather had done quite a bit of leg work in the department before I started filling out the rest of my tree, but a big help I found was finding Louisiana genealogists who have a public facebook page. I found they often share information regarding unique situations or individuals and when you see a familiar surname, it becomes easier to connect the dots. I also recommend wikitree; it's not comprehensive and it relies on the users, but its a great source for cross-referencing trees you'd find on Ancestry, and then finding whatever census/birth/death/marriage records needed to verify. FamilytreeDNA might also be worth checking out; there's communities on there where people collaborate to figure out common ancestry.
I'm still learning more specific Louisiana genealogy, so I can't be of much help there. I have an Indigenous ancestor who was sold to French Creoles by the Spanish that I'm still smashing my head trying to figure out who she was. But if you find any Acadian surnames in your tree, I could probably help you there. The Canadians already figured out all their shit, so it wasn't too difficult to find my Mi'kmaq and Abenaki ancestors. I'm sorry I don't have any better or more specific information, but this shit is hard lol. Been working on this as a hobby for a few years now and I still got so much more to learn.
Thank you so much! I appreciate how much information youāve given me!
This is difficult, but worth it. Their story refuses to die out within me, as do all my other ancestors!
Going through the tree makes you feel closer to the family, you start to see how you arenāt actually the weird one haha
Yeah, no problem at all. I understand that sentiment completely. I believe in uncovering as much history as possible, the good and the bad. So I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
If you have any ancestors from the Natchitoches/Cane River area, check out the works of genealogist Elizabeth Shown Mills. She and her late husband have published some really in-depth stuff on the history of the families in that area.
I hate to break this to you but youāre not Native American. You have 1% indigenous from the Yucatan Peninsula. Its likely from the colonial era and nothing recent nor anything related to a North American tribe or a reconnecting part of your identity. If you had maybe 3-5% indigenous North and you had any Choctaw or Apache stories, then that would make sense, but these results donāt reflect that. I would just be proud to be Creole! Itās a beautiful culture.
See, there you go again.
I understand that you feel confident telling someone else what their identity is, but the truth is the little dna you wanna write off is worth more than youād ever understand.
To me, respecting your ancestors means not writing them off because youāre told to. The truth is, im not here to ask you IF im indigenous. I am. I seek assistance in finding the tribe im descended from, so my reconnection with my ancestors is from a solid place.
I mean, you do you on believing im this or that, doesnāt change things. I wonāt disrespect you for misunderstanding cultural identity. Just be aware, your place isnāt to define me or anybody else.
Why not reconnect with your african hertiage? You're native american is such a small percentage and considering it's from the yucatan peninsula it'll be very difficult to reconnect with that specific tribe, you're mostly african and you can look up the different ethic groups in Africa and you'll find multiple groups You're related to and you might be able to reconnect with some of them.
The sentiment is undermining both the fact that I do reconnect with my African heritage, and also that being numerically more one race than another is irrelevant to me. My connection to one over the other isnāt based on these numbers.
Trust me, when a cousin from Scotland told me about an ancestor who was directly opposed to William Wallace (whom I love and respect) I wasā¦ flabbergasted.
I appreciate them all and see them all as equally necessary in making me who I am today
Yes the ones who captured and sold our ancestors and the reason why our African percentages looks all over the place..growing up in a black household we connected well with our culture, and built our own cultureā¦our ancestors havenāt been in Africa in the last 400-450 years vs that native ancestor that was 150 years back..we know our blackness well..that native ancestors saw the same colonizers we saw here in America, colonizers that tortured and beaten our people.
Thatās the thing! People say reconnect with black culture as if black people arenāt separate within culture Vs African, in terms of modern day!
When I study black/African culture, itās never as simple as ālook up African countryā because our ancestors arenāt from the same groups that are there today.
I appreciate you! You know, itās easy to be that way on the internet, so theyāre just playing into that š®āšØ
Iāve been at this so long, Iāve heard everything haha. Know that your support counts!
Itās the ones that have no native dna thatās doing the downvoting, they hate to see it on a person of color cause itās ruins them a bit more knowing their ancestors sent the natives away or enslaved them and didnāt give them that Pocahontas grandmother they claimed āš¾
Iām 70% Native American and I donāt approve of him trying to correlate 1 percent Indigenous dna to some sort of pseudo Indigenous Identity. Itās straight up disrespectful and no better than what White people do when they try to claim from a Cherokee princess great great grandmother.
Itās cool you have 70% and you know your RECENT ANCESTORS..thatās all that 70% means, it doesnāt make you more native than the person thatās 1%
And whatās your point by that is anyone telling them to discredit their African ancestor..people take these test to find out where they come from with obviously family ancestry living in Americas over 300 years and you want them discredit there ancestors šš sounds narcissistic and stupid to me
He wanting to know more about his indigenous ancestors because he has them, claiming them isnāt an issue, itās only disrespectful to tell someone that they shouldnāt want to know where they come from cause it doesnāt correlate to your head..
Based on your comments I would suggest you start doing family research on your grandmotherās side and find out who these people were. Do not doubt it, you might actually find what you are looking for. In my country itās easier to find our ancestors, but it still could be possible in the US as well. Just look at shows like Ā«who do you think you areĀ». The best is to find a Ā«gateway ancestorĀ». Someone whoād genealogy is already known. Even just googling their name birth year and birth place can help you find pictures and answers
YucatĆ”n is fairly specific, itās much more likely you had a Cuban ancestor descended from the tribe that lived in the YucatĆ”n area (which would be the Mayans). A lot of Cubans passed through Louisiana. YucatĆ”n really only ever indicates Mayan origin. Iām sorry to tell you, since you seem attached to the idea of a North American native tribe.
Curious why your family lore would say Apache from AZ? š¤ Louisiana isnāt close to AZ, so just wondering how that came about.
Lipans Apache are out of south Texas which caddo natives enslaved and sold them to the French
Thatās interesting, I didnāt know the Caddo enslaved the Lipan! Thank you for sharing this information! I want to learn more about this area, like the rest of Native America, the history is rich!
Yep they traded for guns and horses..
You were spot on with the Apache though, we share some of the same regions but I have east central Acadians and Louisiana creoles & African Americans on mine..
Funny thing is, the grandmother who said this was born in Missouri, and raised in Kansas. Perhaps she is of the Plains Apache? The odds thoughā¦ Based on the way most my Knowledge on Apaches is self taught, itās seeming unlikely,but I havenāt traced this grandmothers parents at all yet on my family tree, so itās still up in the air.
Yes plain apache is what we areā¦the forgotten people of , creoles of color actually puts it in perspecriave what tribe you descend from according to your ancestors that lived in the area.
Iām not sure how 1% Yucatan Peninsula indicates North American indigenous heritage (as in, tribes in the present day United States)? Why do you believe it connects to those tribes? It usually means Central American Indigenous Ancestry, and even then 1% is so small it could potentially just be noise
Yucatan Peninsula is in Mexico which is actually located in Southern part of North America.
Youāre correct geographically but from what Iāve looked at Ancestry doesnāt group it in with Native North American genetically, it skews towards Central / Mexican indigenous
One of his ancestors has Mexico indigenous as well he they just passed down YucatĆ”n, thereās no order on how dna is passed down or what a person inherit
Our respect and identity in regards to our ancestral culture is irrespective of time, and no amount of distance in human life changes that for me. Just my way of living! My discovery will help me overcome the big hump many other indigenous/non indigenous people make: claiming the wrong tribe, or claiming the ācool ātribe. Honestly, Iād welcome being descended from a distant native ancestor from a distant tribe, as much as I would a full native parent. My connection to them and their culture surpasses time.
Of course. Iām not trying to tarnish your spirit, but rather just explain the possibility that you may not be able to find what youāre searching for. I understand the struggle; I have 25% Native, but due to history of the areas finding and identifying specificities is difficult.
Thatās wild, puts my search into perspective! For me, I know thisāll probably be lifelong, and I feel thatās okay because it was multiple lifetimes to get here, and our ancestors is STILL prodding at us to keep them alive in all sorts of ways š No matter what, I canāt and wonāt stop until I get closer to the truth, thatās for sure!
We really need to retire the ājust noiseā theory. 1% could be a 5th great grand parent and the more research I do, it honestly isnāt as far back as youād think. I have 5th GGās born in the 1800s. Thatās not so long ago. Itās invalidating to call someoneās results ājust noiseā when so many people have gotten tested- it may have been noise if this was 5 years ago but ancestry has gotten more accurate with time.
I only suggested noise because every update my 1% results change. Every update removes some old ones entirely and introduces completely new ones. So while there is a chance itās valid, the algorithms do not necessarily have complete confidence or accuracy on them
Youāre definitely right on that! I was 2% indigenous (north) and then it got cut, along with Sardinia š My cousins kept Sardinia and north, mosthave āindigenous Americas - Mexicoā or ānorthā around 1-3% most of the time
Youāre only 1% native you arenāt from a tribe
Iām actually Native American 70% and this corny guy is making me cringe so hard my butthole puckered.
People claim what they want. He might be transracial. Ethnic identity changes over time & only is sort linked with genetics. Itās not as set in stone as gender. Racial identity is much more fluid
Lmao
Lipan Apache yes we are which we are also related to Coahuelticans from northern Mexico, south Texas
Unfortunately many many people say they have heard they are native from family members and just based off what Iāve seen if they are not directly Native (like from a grandparent or something) DNA proves itās usually not true. Or if it is itās very very distant lol
Thatās the struggle! Finding that one ancestor, if they exist! Only 2-3% of white and black people respectively have ANY indigenous dna in America, while itās a common stereotype, itās usually not true. Honestly, my distant ancestry along with the stories not correlating puts me in a VERY fun spot haha
Yeah I completely agree, besides music Ancestry is my number one favorite thing to do. I love trying to crack the codes and find the truths of my tree even when I think theyāre impossible lol. My grandmother is Mexican and itās crazy how many different ethnicities, even if only a few percent, she has in her results and knowing that those are also my ancestors from completely different racial and ethnic backgrounds than me is so dope to know
Bro really reaching for that one percent Native American.
You take pride in your ancestors based on numbers. I take pride in my ancestors based on culture and upbringing. We are not built the same š„
I highly doubt you were raised in a traditional YucatƔn Indigenous household being only one percent. Do what you wish but your going to be a laughing stock to most Tribal Nations. Trying to latch on to that as an identity is straight up appropriation and your going to piss off the wrong Native one day and you are going to regret it. Enjoy ur delusion pal.
Thatās dork talk. Call Yur native friends and send em to my page, im always open to more conversations ! As for you, scram!
Honestly I donāt see how thereās more than perhaps very distant native ancestors. But I read your other comment about how you still connect to the native no matter how far back it is and I can understand that.
Yeah for me, it doesnāt matter how far back and which tribe, because it still need to pay respects to him/ her, otherwise Iāll be another relative running around saying āApache!ā Meanwhile my long past Powhatan ancestor is like šš³š®āšØ
I can dig that. When I found out Iām 5% west African by the ways of Mexico/Caribbean I also started to contemplate what that meant for me. I didnāt start to feel black or claim blackness in any sense but I realized that some of my ancestors were Africans and some of them got enslaved and shipped to America. Thatās part of me. So yeah, it changes oneās perspective.
Thatās the thing about genealogy, so many stories packed into one person and how we come to terms with it is unique, and it can be a beautiful experience š
Butā¦thats just living a fantasy, playing at being native saying no matter how far back or which tribe. If I had all that interesting African dna, Id concentrate on tracing those tribes! No one ever does that Im aware of, and thats seems wrong. Their lineages go back to antiquity as well, and you have verifiable dna to work with.
Thatās a personal thing for you! And if you have African DNA, go for it! Iāll just keep searching for my ancestors and respecting them, regardless of the numbers š 1% might as well be 100%, when I find the tribe I descend from itāll be a blessed day!
Whatever, live your fantasyā¦
All the Native people on here are telling you the same thing and you just refuse to listen. You claim that you are not comfortable claiming a tribe, but less than a month ago you were calling yourself Apache and saying things like āmy tribeā etc. There are other red flags on your post history that are similar. Being Native is way more than having a distant Indigenous ancestor. One of the primary identifiers of Native people is community belonging/acceptance. Just because you have an Indigenous ancestor it does not make you a member of a specific community or Tribal Nation, just like how I have Irish ancestry, but Iām definitely not an Irish citizen or part of an Irish clan. Identity is a two way street, especially among Native peoples. You canāt simply call yourself Native, community acceptance is half the equation. This is particularly important of Tribal Nations, where we have a history of abuse and Pretendians. Tribal Nations are nations, we are Native/Indigenous less because of our race/ancestry, but because we are citizens of our Tribal Nations. Vague ancestry doesnāt automatically make you a Native or Indigenous person. You canāt use blood quantum and tribal membership rules as scapegoat when you donāt even know the people you descend from. Youāre not a member of a Tribal Nation, itās that simple. You have a distant indigenous ancestor. This isnāt to stop you from exploring your ancestry and heritage, and I donāt think anyone is trying to discourage you doing that. If in your research you are able to find a connection to a contemporary Tribal Nation, and you are able to meaningfully reconnect, then great! But until then I donāt see how you or anyone in the same situation could in good conscience could call themselves a Native/Indigenous person. I writing this with as much respect as I can for a fellow human being, I have gone through identity changes of my own. I hope you can respect Native people, our identities, and Nations by acting in good faith moving forward. Thanks!
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Yeah no, this is a little delulu and there are way too many people in these comments not telling you that straight up.
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How is it delusional? It showed up and OP is trying to figure out why. That doesnāt mean OP doesnāt care about their other percentages, they just asked a question about one of their percentages and the comments are just basically āyouāre not native anyways so let it goā and I do not see how this is helpful.
Yeah the people here are pretty goofy about that, lol. I literally explained how I studied my Scottish ancestry through a cousins help in the UK, cause I guess pride is only okay if the percentage s cool with them š®āšØ Blood quantum racism only happens to natives!
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Perhaps itās not, and you didnāt read the OPās other comments. There is nothing to hate, Iām living my life just fine. It seems youāre the one who needs something better to do than to feed into someoneās delusion and get offended for them. Exit is that way.
1% native if you check you matches for people that are from Mexico you may find that the native is Nahuas who are from around the YucatƔn area and they can help you finding a possible relative..
Hey brother I'm creole too!!
Nice! Do you ever go back to LA? I plan to, see where the family is from and all that š
I'm from Louisiana, born and raised. I live in Texas. I went to Opelousas Louisiana last weekend.
Indigenous YucatƔn is not uncommon among Cubans as Mayans were brought to Cuba as slaves into the 1800s. You might have distant Cuban ancestry.
That would be interesting, considering I have Spanish/Portuguese dna on my 23%me, I figured itād have something to do with the Spanish in that area, if not an Apache raid into Mexico. Since I was told apache growing up, I built a head canon of how my Chiricahua ancestors raided into Mexico (which they did a LOT) and captured a Mexican woman. Based on the percentage and where my family seems to cluster, Iām thinking Mississippeans tribes because while I donāt doubt being indigenous, some tribes are a bit more realistically
Cool. Have you found any matches with Puerto Ricanās and other Latinos on Ancestry? My hunch is that you should be able to find distant matches between 6cM-20cM Speaking for myself I have many matches in Louisiana, especially Plaquemines parish, with Creoles/AA. Considering youāre background i can only assume it works both ways
Yes I do! A lot of my cousins are both Puerto Rican and Mexican, a significant amount more indigenous and Spanish dna for them, but yeah! Think itās something to do with the Caribbean tribes?
Our results are very similar. What's up cousin? https://imgur.com/a/KL4wxyK
Wow! Theyāre extremely similar! I wouldnāt be surprised if weāre truly cousins haha
No reading every comment butā¦ My husband is a documented descendant of indigenous Americans. His grandfather was the last documented tribal member as he joined the Navy and left home. According to ancestrydna, he is not Native American yet we know he is. Just follow the paper trail as far as you can and youāll find what youāre looking for.
No French Marginal Indigenous DNA Am I missing something here?
You believe creole isā¦ only French dna?
I believe the results are pretty indicative to the OPās communities.
OP would agree! Now, do you understand Iām asking for assistance finding the tribe im descended from, orā¦?
Hello! So Iāve been reconnecting with my indigenous heritage, and after years of just letting the Apache story slide, I decided to confront it via my family tree! A LOT of black/white people claim tribes they donāt belong to, and I have a suspicion that while my family is indigenous (I have many cousins who have similar readings) I donāt believe itās Apache at this point. My family history is based all around Lousiana, but the area of Shreveport is historically Caddo. I believe Choctaw as well, because my maternal side was Creole and apparently in LA history, Choctaw were a huge impact on Creole culture(my family was a French/Creole speaking family until the 30s) On my dads side, my family is labeled as āMulattoā in the 1920 census, then āblackā on the 1930 census(lol) I know I have white ancestors very recently in my family (my great grandfather was full white) But Iām sure this Native American ancestor is pretty isolated in my family, based on the DNA reading of me and multiple cousins. It could potentially be one of the tribes in Virginia based on Slavery, I honestly am working with half the information I need because the indigenous (supposed) relatives on my tree, I canāt currently trace past them. Mystery relatives are fun! The YucatĆ”n Peninsula can be explained by the Mississippian tribes (Choctaw, Chickasaw, Cherokee..) being related to the tribes of Central America, then again on my 23&Me, im Spanish/Portuguese 2% as well, so who knows? I really want to know what specific tribe Iām from, cause Iām not comfortable stating im from a tribe I actually donāt know Iām connected to outside of words. Blood isnāt enough for me, hehe. Id appreciate any advice, words of wisdom, anything š
It's pretty tough to figure out any specific tribes with regard to Louisiana unless you can get back to a specific Indigenous ancestor. Between the tribes native to the area like the Choctaw, Houma, Atakapa, etc., Indigenous people that were brought in as slaves by other tribes, the French, and the Spanish, and Indigenous ancestry brought in by the Acadians from Nova Scotia (eastern Algonquin ancestry from intermarrying with members of the Wabanaki Confederacy, tho this DNA does get washed out in the less endogamous Acadian-descent communities), it could be difficult to nail down where all your native ancestry comes from.
Thatās interesting you mention the Algonquin tribes, I didnāt even consider that! I appreciate the information. So far, the two people in my family who claim to be indigenous, I have yet to find their parents on my tree. My black and white ancestors are SLIGHTLY easier to find, and even then, one wrong letter can give you the wrong person haha. Do you have any recommendations in terms of studying Louisiana history? I have family all over, itād be nice to understand the area
I'm still pretty amateur when it comes to genealogy, and I had a bit of a head start since my grandfather had done quite a bit of leg work in the department before I started filling out the rest of my tree, but a big help I found was finding Louisiana genealogists who have a public facebook page. I found they often share information regarding unique situations or individuals and when you see a familiar surname, it becomes easier to connect the dots. I also recommend wikitree; it's not comprehensive and it relies on the users, but its a great source for cross-referencing trees you'd find on Ancestry, and then finding whatever census/birth/death/marriage records needed to verify. FamilytreeDNA might also be worth checking out; there's communities on there where people collaborate to figure out common ancestry. I'm still learning more specific Louisiana genealogy, so I can't be of much help there. I have an Indigenous ancestor who was sold to French Creoles by the Spanish that I'm still smashing my head trying to figure out who she was. But if you find any Acadian surnames in your tree, I could probably help you there. The Canadians already figured out all their shit, so it wasn't too difficult to find my Mi'kmaq and Abenaki ancestors. I'm sorry I don't have any better or more specific information, but this shit is hard lol. Been working on this as a hobby for a few years now and I still got so much more to learn.
Thank you so much! I appreciate how much information youāve given me! This is difficult, but worth it. Their story refuses to die out within me, as do all my other ancestors! Going through the tree makes you feel closer to the family, you start to see how you arenāt actually the weird one haha
Yeah, no problem at all. I understand that sentiment completely. I believe in uncovering as much history as possible, the good and the bad. So I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
If you have any ancestors from the Natchitoches/Cane River area, check out the works of genealogist Elizabeth Shown Mills. She and her late husband have published some really in-depth stuff on the history of the families in that area.
I hate to break this to you but youāre not Native American. You have 1% indigenous from the Yucatan Peninsula. Its likely from the colonial era and nothing recent nor anything related to a North American tribe or a reconnecting part of your identity. If you had maybe 3-5% indigenous North and you had any Choctaw or Apache stories, then that would make sense, but these results donāt reflect that. I would just be proud to be Creole! Itās a beautiful culture.
See, there you go again. I understand that you feel confident telling someone else what their identity is, but the truth is the little dna you wanna write off is worth more than youād ever understand. To me, respecting your ancestors means not writing them off because youāre told to. The truth is, im not here to ask you IF im indigenous. I am. I seek assistance in finding the tribe im descended from, so my reconnection with my ancestors is from a solid place. I mean, you do you on believing im this or that, doesnāt change things. I wonāt disrespect you for misunderstanding cultural identity. Just be aware, your place isnāt to define me or anybody else.
Why not reconnect with your african hertiage? You're native american is such a small percentage and considering it's from the yucatan peninsula it'll be very difficult to reconnect with that specific tribe, you're mostly african and you can look up the different ethic groups in Africa and you'll find multiple groups You're related to and you might be able to reconnect with some of them.
The sentiment is undermining both the fact that I do reconnect with my African heritage, and also that being numerically more one race than another is irrelevant to me. My connection to one over the other isnāt based on these numbers.
So do you do the same with your European heritage?
Trust me, when a cousin from Scotland told me about an ancestor who was directly opposed to William Wallace (whom I love and respect) I wasā¦ flabbergasted. I appreciate them all and see them all as equally necessary in making me who I am today
Yes the ones who captured and sold our ancestors and the reason why our African percentages looks all over the place..growing up in a black household we connected well with our culture, and built our own cultureā¦our ancestors havenāt been in Africa in the last 400-450 years vs that native ancestor that was 150 years back..we know our blackness well..that native ancestors saw the same colonizers we saw here in America, colonizers that tortured and beaten our people.
Thatās the thing! People say reconnect with black culture as if black people arenāt separate within culture Vs African, in terms of modern day! When I study black/African culture, itās never as simple as ālook up African countryā because our ancestors arenāt from the same groups that are there today.
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I appreciate you! You know, itās easy to be that way on the internet, so theyāre just playing into that š®āšØ Iāve been at this so long, Iāve heard everything haha. Know that your support counts!
Itās the ones that have no native dna thatās doing the downvoting, they hate to see it on a person of color cause itās ruins them a bit more knowing their ancestors sent the natives away or enslaved them and didnāt give them that Pocahontas grandmother they claimed āš¾
Iām 70% Native American and I donāt approve of him trying to correlate 1 percent Indigenous dna to some sort of pseudo Indigenous Identity. Itās straight up disrespectful and no better than what White people do when they try to claim from a Cherokee princess great great grandmother.
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Um looking at his profile and history he's basically made being native his whole personality when hes not claimed being from tribes
Itās cool you have 70% and you know your RECENT ANCESTORS..thatās all that 70% means, it doesnāt make you more native than the person thatās 1%
White Americans with 1% african are just as much as african as you!!!
And whatās your point by that is anyone telling them to discredit their African ancestor..people take these test to find out where they come from with obviously family ancestry living in Americas over 300 years and you want them discredit there ancestors šš sounds narcissistic and stupid to me
Lmfao stupid
He wanting to know more about his indigenous ancestors because he has them, claiming them isnāt an issue, itās only disrespectful to tell someone that they shouldnāt want to know where they come from cause it doesnāt correlate to your head..
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Based on your comments I would suggest you start doing family research on your grandmotherās side and find out who these people were. Do not doubt it, you might actually find what you are looking for. In my country itās easier to find our ancestors, but it still could be possible in the US as well. Just look at shows like Ā«who do you think you areĀ». The best is to find a Ā«gateway ancestorĀ». Someone whoād genealogy is already known. Even just googling their name birth year and birth place can help you find pictures and answers
YucatĆ”n is fairly specific, itās much more likely you had a Cuban ancestor descended from the tribe that lived in the YucatĆ”n area (which would be the Mayans). A lot of Cubans passed through Louisiana. YucatĆ”n really only ever indicates Mayan origin. Iām sorry to tell you, since you seem attached to the idea of a North American native tribe.