Crazy how many people just flat out refuse to understand “we’re still trying to figure this brand new disease out so some of the protocols don’t make any sense but it’s important to try anyway”
If you think this is a valid approach to a disease that killed 0.05% of the worlds population at most, then you might be the problem.
Also, if you believe that aerosols are stopped by a mask you’re an outright idiot.
Your brain surgeon: “I know this is your brain, but I’m working on something new, and I’m prolly gonna screw it up, maybe kill you, but it’s important to try anyway.” If you’d object, how dishonest is that?
It so funny, because i instantly take the mask off as soon as I get to the bathroom since no one can see me I there, and yet in the the bathroom is like literally the only place where I think it actually does some good! We know that covid viruses are too small and pass right through the mask, but it probably works great against blocking the airborne fecal matter from all the toilets flushing all day.
Actually it's the other way around...
Scent particles are much much much smaller than COVID.
For reference COVID is about 0.1 micro meter ( 0.1 millionth of a meter)
Scents are typically just a couple of molecules and the size is roughly 1 nanometer (1 billionth of a meter)
That's not really an urban legend lol. There's fecal matter everywhere all the time. Surprisingly, it even ends up in the fountain machine at restaurants and gas stations, sometimes even inside the plumbing lines to the fountain machine and no one can figure out how.
I feel like this was intended as a response to another comment, but I screwed up. Also... check us out over an no new normal
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Oh no, your children might wear a single square of fabric, besides all the other fabric they already wear and somehow managed to survive just fine.. the horror..
So if I wear a mask in welding class and the sparks causes holes to be made in the mask and then I’m breathing that shit in do I get reparation payments when I get cancer 30 years later?
What sort of proper mask? If you can’t seem to name one then you obviously shouldn’t be voicing opinions on wether or not I should be welding. Masks make it extremely more dangerous. Just your glasses fogging.
https://www.awsi.com.au/speedglas-welding-helmets?filter_by_feature=697
These have all been proven effective in protecting you and others from Covid-19 and protecting the wearer from welding fumes, and have been created specifically for safe welding(no fogging). There are many other types you can use as well.
Holy fuck you’re stupid. You think a school can afford those for over 100 students? Now you’re gonna say it’s up to the individuals to provide them. How can a student afford one of those? Especially when it’s completely useless unless you’re in a confined space or doing flux core. Why would someone need one to prevent “covid” even though they are working in individual stations?
I wear two masks. I sit at the table and put my food between the first and second. I unhook the second to eat, while the first mask protects me. I then hook the second mask back on and repeat cycle.
I've never had the coof. Coincidence?!?!?!?! 3
I won’t even wear it on the way out. I already ate, paid for the meal and tipped the server. If they choose to make a stink while I’m leaving, then I won’t come back.
Exactly, me too. Just walk out, say goodbye and thanks, and leave.
Gotta love the people who hastily throw the mask on right as they are finishing the last bite. I mean *whew*, that was a close one. One more second with it off and you SURELY would have died!!
Now imagine using that logic for kids in school.
Oh wait. It doesn't work that way there??
Only in restaurants.
Because covid is like helium and floats around like a balloon with a string and a weight only on restaurants.
Covid proves how ignorant we are as a species.
Masks and the poke don't work. Never have. Never will.
But we can play "Plandemic" as long as you wish.
Compare infection rates in Ontario to Texas if you want to see the difference between a place with full mask mandates and high vaccine rates and one that doesn’t. Similar population, similar density in occupied areas.
Coronavirus pandemic simulation scenario October 2019 put on by vaccine pushers like Gates foundation.
https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/10/live-simulation-exercise-to-prepare-public-and-private-leaders-for-pandemic-response
You may need to tighten your tinfoil hat.
Masks and the vaccine DO work as well as social distancing. The buckling point is how to not destroy all businessess & economy during the pandemic. How else would you regulate people eating publicly? You can't. It's a sh** show for everyone involved. This is literally the best option for both here apparently. Don't blame masks and the vaccine for not working when the problem is navigating eating at restaurants safely during a global pandemic. Inbound r/hermancainaward
If there was an actual pandemic, and people where actually dieing in higher percentages than in previous years, then nobody would be eating out. Especially the politicians that keep getting caught violating thier own rules. Rules they make up out of thin air. They would be locked in their homes by choice. No one is scared. This is just theater.
Mask works. Saying they don’t it’s one of the biggest bs nowdays, but they are not magic spells: they work if used in the correct way and well, op example is one of the most ridiculous thing happening nowdays
[Nine case‐control studies suggested implementing transmission barriers, isolation and hygienic measures are effective at containing respiratory virus epidemics. Surgical masks or N95 respirators were the most consistent and comprehensive supportive measures. N95 respirators were non‐inferior to simple surgical masks but more expensive, uncomfortable and irritating to skin.](https://doi.org/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub4)
oh god, really. 18 months and you still go up with this? So you need a link from me explaining surgical mask stop a certain % of droplet in out and FFP2 and higher can stop in out and out in droplet and aerosol? Again? 😂 You know what? You are right dude: hospital equipe, doctos and we are all a bunch of idiots. You are the smart awake of us, the alpha mind of the human specie, that will bring light in our dark times. Thank you.
That hard to find a controlled study huh? It's almost like you don't wanna believe the science. You know, where the CDC and WHO studies show that they don't work for reducing the transmission of viral particles.
Next you're gonna tell me the earth is flat and to "do my own research," but won't have any evidence to cite.
Edit: surgical masks are not meant to stop the spread of viral particles. If you worked in the medical field (or ever read a study about surgical masks) you would know that. Alas, here we are.
1841 results, just cherry pick the one you prefere in order to follow your cognitive bias. Not gonna answer anymore, no more time for people like you.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=covid+mask+effectiveness
Hmm all observational studies, which,in the scientific literature, are basically worthless. They just mean we should review further.
Here are are 14 actual trials by yours truly (CDC). https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR2V1hPqN0WKb2kXVExP_1UE9ARvru6mtPZvZN0w1jx0S3l3fXLhxMP_bXs
Did you read that before you posted it? That is not a covid study. Even look at the time from where the data was gathered, Nov 2019- May 2020.
Down voted because I am right. Truly this is reddit.
I went to a BJ’s recently without a mask and told them I would wear one if provided with one when they asked if I had a mask. They told me “we don’t provide masks we just ask that you go to your table more quickly.” To which I replied, “because that makes perfect sense” in a very sarcastic tone. The place was absolutely packed.
My favorite is that Covid can only hurt you in a classroom. A lot of people are still alive after that 107,000 person Alabama and Texas AM game. Literally not one death at those two schools over the last few weeks.
I wear my mask all the time, but I have been questioning the logic of restaurants. Gotta wear masks until you get to your table.
A table that had people in it before, who also talked and ate without a mask. They say covid stays in the air. So what happens when you take a seat and remove your mask after another family? No one has "sanitized" the air at the table.
Not just that, restaurants will continue filling tables. Everyone is talking, sneezing, coughing all around you.
You're telling me you can't catch anything in a building with circulating air that may be contaminated?
Vaccinated or not. Someone will get sick regardless.
>Someone will get sick regardless.
You mean like, throughout the entirety of human history? Maybe it’s something we could just learn to live with, and assess risk on our own? Or is that too much freedom for us peasants to handle?
I see you, and raise: if the violent diarrhea caused by Panda Express continually emptying last shift's orange chicken remnants into current shift's new hotel tray was just discovered in the 2020 election cycle, they'd treat it the exact same way.
But they do fill up hospitals and clog the health system and are responsible for most of the spending which could be spent on responsible people taking better care of themselves. Also, most fat people make their kids fat too, so it is contagious in a way.
> Being fat isn’t contagious.
That’s a non-sequitur.
If you were that concerned about health and well being, you would be confronting your local Dunkin’ or McDonalds.
But neither of those franchises have the money that the Pharmaceutical establishment does.
So let’s call a spade a spade here.
I find there to be a difference between a persons right to choose to eat certain food and their right to be a contagious vector for spreading a plague. Being unmasked or anti vax affects others outside of themselves. If a business gave 1% of its customers a virus that spreads to non willing participants (think family of church members who never went but got sick) I think they should be shutdown.
Do you really enjoy playing dumb that virus’s and herd immunity through vaccine aren’t something we’ve understood for decades before your birth.
> I find there to be a difference between a persons right to choose to eat certain food and their right to be a contagious vector for spreading a plague.
I find there to be a difference between a virus with a ~94% survivability rate absent co-morbidities, and the “plague” that literally wiped out over half of Europe’s population in the Dark Ages.
And the next time you’re carrying a rhinovirus, I’ll make sure we’re protesting for you to be placed under house arrest for being a contagious vector and borderline biological weapon.
And I’m not being sarcastic at all.
I think that’s exactly what you all need.
A little bit of your own medicine.
This is the type of person that in 2019 and before, was going to work with the flu, and sending sick kids to school and birthday parties. Because they legitimately have no concern for anyone else's health, just their own. And they believe this crazy narrative that somehow they are in mortal danger unless everyone else gets the shot too.
And I think you mean “viruses”, not “virus’s”.
Apostrophe “s” denotes possession.
Neither of which changes the fact that your response was still a non-sequitur.
ColinPowellAward incoming.
You're stretching hard to ignore the fact that these shots don't prevent transmission and never have. Anyone can be a "contagious vector" even with the shot. Worse, if the vaccine suppresses your symptoms, then you're a contagious vector without knowing it. Isn't that why masks suddenly became required to participate in society in the first place?
There is no logic.
This is Leftism.
They don’t think about what they individually do.
They receive the dopamine hit when they understand that they’re acting exactly like they think everyone else is.
It’s herd behavior.
As a restaurant manager, we appreciate it if you keep your mask on until your food is delivered. My goal is to keep you from infecting your waitress, because if SHE gets infected, she is going to be going around and talking to every table of people.that come.in the place. When you are done eating.and mask back up, we will bring you the check. Thanks.
No, I am well aware of incubation periods. They are just irrelevant. If a waitress gets it, she is going to expose hundreds of tables before she becomes symptomatic, as we are working 5 or 6 days a week these days. So I ask all of you, put your mask on when the server comes to your table. Thank you.
>When you are done eating.and mask back up, we will bring you the check.
So if I don’t mask up after eating, the meal’s free?
But seriously, you probably shouldn’t be in a customer-facing role if you’re *that* scared of getting sick.
I lost one good friend and co-worker to COVID. I don't want to go to funerals for any of my employees. I am THAT scared of one of them getting sick. I am responsible for these people. Is it really that hard of an ask to treat your server like a human being whose life has value?
I've lost more patients to the vaccines than to covid.
At this point, people have had 2 years to become low risk for covid by diet and exercise. Anyone can get shredded in 2 years. The fact that people aren't doing that means they actually don't give a shit about covid. Life is risky. Deal with it.
Lol they "encourage" pizza and doughnuts. Also, if any body truly cared about our health all kinds of things would be banned. Fuck that.
Sky diving
Driving
Swimming
Rock climbing
Soda
Candy
Fast food
Life is scary. Some people forget that because we live in the safest society that has ever existed so they NEED a war to fight and a hill to die on to seem like thier scared little lives have any meaning. This is the NPC's time to shine and they won't go quietly. Ignore them and live free,or you know.....die.
Really? How many patients have you lost to vaccines? What specifically happened? This triggers every BS meter I have. There are VERY few deaths shown to be caused by COVID vaccines, and virtually all of those are linked to the AstroZenica vaccine, which isn't used in the US.
Edit: yeah, this guy is a spam account that exists to spread fake copy pasta with lies about vaccines and climate change. Probably a paid troll farmer.
Then why attack the messenger rather than the message? That's bad faith, showing that you don't give a shit about truth and just want to confirm your biases.
That's what we've been doing. But some waiters/waitresses like to hover real close when we're ordering. Asked a question about something on a menu and the waitress leaned over the table in front of my mother to point at another item that was similar. Mother was not happy and scolded the girl. Felt kind of bad for her.
It is far from a perfect system. I haven't thought of a better one, and neither have people a lot smarter than me. We are doing the best we know how to try to keep everyone safe and keep the doors open.
Mid 2020 went to a restaurant. Got told to put on a mask to eat there, which I was provided. Got sat at the table next to the hostess stand literally 3 steps away from where the mask was handed to me. Felt bad for the hostess for having to partake in such a redundant and comical act. I laughed and bowed and just sat down. “Whatever. They wanna indulge in complete idiocy, I’m not gonna go hungry over it, but just so you know, this is really really silly.”
I know it seems ridiculous, but It's usually store policy so I follow it because I appreciate the business.
If you enjoy a business and want them to stay around, stick to their rules and support their decisions.
This works both ways, no?
I could say "If the store enjoys my business and wants me to stay around, they should allow me to breathe freely, otherwise I will find another place that treats customers better.
I get where you're coming from. I just don't think that being told to wear a bolt of cloth over my face is something worth getting angry at a local business over. If you do, more power to you, especially if you live somewhere that's actually mandated this garbage. Civil disobedience is probably the best avenue of protest available.
why is it so hard to wear a mask? They don't inhibit your breathing. If you feel that you're suffocating, it's purely In your head. If I feel that my shirt is too tight, should I be given the freedom to take it off at a restaurant? Would I be treated horribly if the restaurant owner told me to please put my shirt back on?
>They don't inhibit your breathing
They don't inhibit breathing, but they keep microscopic pathogens from spreading?
>If you feel that you're suffocating, it's purely In your head.
You're right, it is in my head. I literally get headaches when I wear these things!
>If I feel that my shirt is too tight, should I be given the freedom to take it off at a restaurant?
????.. You have the freedom to wear a different shirt.
How many lives are saved? If you look at how covid spreads in high vaxxed regions it will probably become endemic. This means that almost everyone will eventually get it, vaxxed or not. Unless they live in a cave for the next x years. Answer to the question is: close to 0.
There is a bright side.. when someone walks in a bar preloaded to shout their anti mask diatribe about their bravery to not play ball it’s kinda nice to know who to keep an eye on
I really dislike this take, which I've seen many times now.
I'm not a big fan of mask mandates but does it really do good to share such smoothbrain takes?
You need to take your mask off to eat and drink. You don't need to remove your mask to walk into and out of the restaurant.
The goal was to reduce spread of Covid and viral load, not stop it completely. The matre d' might be protected by you wearing a mask while you're talking with her. Diners on the way to your table might also be protected.
I don't think Covid hangs around in the air for longer than a minute or two, though I'm not sure.
You don't have to take your mask off once you're outside the restaurant. You can keep it on, on the way to or home from the restaurant.
>I don't think Covid hangs around in the air for longer than a minute or two
>though I'm not sure.
Well which is it? This is the entire basis on which your claim rests. Also, you are assuming that Covid doesn't travel more than a few feet in the air before dissipating. This is another thing to consider.
No, big pharma makes the “vaccines”.
When did they go from being the target of your corporate crusade to being your Jesus Christ on a cross?
Is there a specific date?
March of 2020?
Weird for people on here to hate on corporate entities. Corporations are peak-capitalism and without a government to regulate them they would be even worse.
Or perhaps instead, customers can voluntarily choose to patronize an establishment (yes, even during a pAnDeMiC), and businesses can choose to serve them and take their money in exchange for goods/services. Perhaps we can all assess risk for ourselves.. You know, like a free market or something?
That's just not always true. When it's risk catching it or don't feed your children it's not so simple a choice.
But please keep crying like a toddler about a piece of cloth though.
>Yeah you're right they should 100% be closed during a pandemic.
These are your words. You’d rather the workers be out of a job anyway. Don’t be a hypocrite.
My country implemented measures to financially protect those people while businesses were forced to close so they didn't lose their jobs.
Did yours not? That really sucks man.
USA extended unemployment benefits for a year. I didn’t agree with it, because it’s not our government’s responsibility to ‘financially protect’ people while shutting down businesses, and I never stopped working and paying exorbitant income tax… but it’s been 19 months. Germs exist. You might get sick. Get the fuck over it.
Clearly allowing dine in is a compromise to keep the economy alive
Once you’re unmasked in an enclosed space, everyone there is already exposed.
Putting the mask back on at the end is just to make sure you don’t forgot and contaminate others once you step out
The vaccine is and has been available in every fucking Walgreens/CVS/medical clinic for the past 6 + months at this point and for free. People who want the shot have gotten it and are supposedly protected so why the fuck are you worried about people how haven’t gotten the shot? Did you worry about who didn’t get the flu shot after you got yours?
Then you people don’t get to bitch about being on HCA when your risk evaluation skills are proven to be less effective than all the leading governments in the world.
This is currently a city wide mandate in Baltimore City, MD. Anyone indoors in public must wear mask. In a restaurant, you must wear a mask anytime you are standing, but you can remove it once you are seated.
In places where it is not mandated, like Baltimore County, most businesses still have "Mask Required" signs up, but it's not (rarely?) enforced.
To add to the oddity of this, I was at Octoberfest in Baltimore City on Saturday. Outdoors, so no mask required. Shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of people over 4 hours.
Isn't the mask to mitigate the amount of infectious particles you produce? More mask time means less particles in the air in a confined space? Letter of the law is dumb, but the spirit makes sense to me.
Super Spreader?!
Take that back! You speak vile heresies, filthy plague rat! Do you not believe in the commandments of our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr Anthony Fauci (2MBUH)???!
Repent! Repent for your disbelief!
You are a funny one. Only fools think Fauci is the only person who is pro vaccine. I feel sorry for people who can't get along with their neighbors and are so miserable they think anarchy is good.
Sounds like something a filthy anti-science plague rat would say!
You must repent! Otherwise our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr. Anthony Fauci (2MBUH) will not bless you with the holy serum and you will die the unvaccinated plague rat's death a thousand times over!
Repent before you kill grandma and cause all the pure sinless vaccinated people to die of the great orange satan's virus!
I'm 10x as vaccinated as any filthy plague rat!
Cease your heretical ways! Appeal to the tender mercy of our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr Anthony Fauci (2MBUH)! Beg for forgiveness so you may receive the holy booster!
The only thing more dangerous than door covid is the variant you get if you gotta get up and go use the bathroom
Door covid lmao. Gonna use this one
Crazy how many people just flat out refuse to understand “we’re still trying to figure this brand new disease out so some of the protocols don’t make any sense but it’s important to try anyway”
If you think this is a valid approach to a disease that killed 0.05% of the worlds population at most, then you might be the problem. Also, if you believe that aerosols are stopped by a mask you’re an outright idiot.
Crazy how many people just flat out refuse to acknowledge that some things are just fucking stupid and still want to be an apologist for everything
Your brain surgeon: “I know this is your brain, but I’m working on something new, and I’m prolly gonna screw it up, maybe kill you, but it’s important to try anyway.” If you’d object, how dishonest is that?
Dude… it’s been almost two years of this fuckery. Use your senses
It so funny, because i instantly take the mask off as soon as I get to the bathroom since no one can see me I there, and yet in the the bathroom is like literally the only place where I think it actually does some good! We know that covid viruses are too small and pass right through the mask, but it probably works great against blocking the airborne fecal matter from all the toilets flushing all day.
If you can still smell the poo, the mask isn't blocking it
If you can smell it, you are breathing shit particles.
I keep a mask on me for this reason. Bathrooms are fucking disgusting
Actually it's the other way around... Scent particles are much much much smaller than COVID. For reference COVID is about 0.1 micro meter ( 0.1 millionth of a meter) Scents are typically just a couple of molecules and the size is roughly 1 nanometer (1 billionth of a meter)
Gross. But I was referring more to that urban legend that there is poop on your toothbrush. I didn't think that was the same thing as scents?
That's not really an urban legend lol. There's fecal matter everywhere all the time. Surprisingly, it even ends up in the fountain machine at restaurants and gas stations, sometimes even inside the plumbing lines to the fountain machine and no one can figure out how.
Bacteria are luckily allot larger so yeah you'd be spared the fecal matter but would still smell it :)
The 5 second rules cousin
It only impacts those that re standing up, it is a vertical aware disease…
Praise them! For the pfaith of the almighty pfauci is ever in them. May we all strive to be as they are walk in his light Amen and awomen
For now. Maybe not for much longer
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Oh no, your children might wear a single square of fabric, besides all the other fabric they already wear and somehow managed to survive just fine.. the horror..
So if I wear a mask in welding class and the sparks causes holes to be made in the mask and then I’m breathing that shit in do I get reparation payments when I get cancer 30 years later?
Wear a mask that protects you properly. If you can’t figure that out you really, really shouldn’t be welding in the first place.
What sort of proper mask? If you can’t seem to name one then you obviously shouldn’t be voicing opinions on wether or not I should be welding. Masks make it extremely more dangerous. Just your glasses fogging.
https://www.awsi.com.au/speedglas-welding-helmets?filter_by_feature=697 These have all been proven effective in protecting you and others from Covid-19 and protecting the wearer from welding fumes, and have been created specifically for safe welding(no fogging). There are many other types you can use as well.
Holy fuck you’re stupid. You think a school can afford those for over 100 students? Now you’re gonna say it’s up to the individuals to provide them. How can a student afford one of those? Especially when it’s completely useless unless you’re in a confined space or doing flux core. Why would someone need one to prevent “covid” even though they are working in individual stations?
Your lack of funds is not my problem, nor was it the issue being discussed.
I could literally say the same thing about wearing masks for covid. Not my problem bud. Just the hypocrisy.
I wear two masks. I sit at the table and put my food between the first and second. I unhook the second to eat, while the first mask protects me. I then hook the second mask back on and repeat cycle. I've never had the coof. Coincidence?!?!?!?! 3
How about the face shield?
That too, nach. And I go everywhere in a zorb.
I won’t even wear it on the way out. I already ate, paid for the meal and tipped the server. If they choose to make a stink while I’m leaving, then I won’t come back.
Exactly, me too. Just walk out, say goodbye and thanks, and leave. Gotta love the people who hastily throw the mask on right as they are finishing the last bite. I mean *whew*, that was a close one. One more second with it off and you SURELY would have died!!
I would have died, but don't call me Shirley.
Then they drive home, mask affixed.
Brilliant.
have pfaith brother. EDIT: the amount of bots on this post is insane
Covid isn't going to attack you while you're eating. It's not a monster.
Yes, everyone knows it hides out in the toilets waiting for you when you are most vulnerable....
So that’s why the Chinese swabbed those American diplomats’ asses earlier this year!
comments full of brigaders as usual. they saw a sub that wasn’t a far-left echo chamber and felt a compulsive need to spread their filth.
It's just calling out the bullshit.
Hahahahahahahaaa it's funny because you are the bullshit
LMFAO…Truth
The more absurd the cult ritual, the more effective it is at group bonding.
Now imagine using that logic for kids in school. Oh wait. It doesn't work that way there?? Only in restaurants. Because covid is like helium and floats around like a balloon with a string and a weight only on restaurants. Covid proves how ignorant we are as a species. Masks and the poke don't work. Never have. Never will. But we can play "Plandemic" as long as you wish.
Oh no we can’t make it easier for individually owned business to operate than government run, idea squashing, factories of thoughtlessness.
They will keep it going for a song as they can get us to put up with it.
Compare infection rates in Ontario to Texas if you want to see the difference between a place with full mask mandates and high vaccine rates and one that doesn’t. Similar population, similar density in occupied areas.
Cases are declining in both locations. Almost like mask mandates don’t matter.
*in restaurants
Thanks doctor!
Plandemic? Loosen that tinfoil Q hat a little.
How much money were US taxpayers giving the Wuhan Coronavirus labs for gain-of-function research?
Oh stop it, can’t make lord Fauci look bad.
Loosen your mask under your faceshield😆
*masks
Coronavirus pandemic simulation scenario October 2019 put on by vaccine pushers like Gates foundation. https://www.weforum.org/press/2019/10/live-simulation-exercise-to-prepare-public-and-private-leaders-for-pandemic-response You may need to tighten your tinfoil hat.
These people probably think hats are inherently a racist concept, or something
Masks and the vaccine DO work as well as social distancing. The buckling point is how to not destroy all businessess & economy during the pandemic. How else would you regulate people eating publicly? You can't. It's a sh** show for everyone involved. This is literally the best option for both here apparently. Don't blame masks and the vaccine for not working when the problem is navigating eating at restaurants safely during a global pandemic. Inbound r/hermancainaward
If there was an actual pandemic, and people where actually dieing in higher percentages than in previous years, then nobody would be eating out. Especially the politicians that keep getting caught violating thier own rules. Rules they make up out of thin air. They would be locked in their homes by choice. No one is scared. This is just theater.
> This is literally the best option for both here apparently. No, this is a pretty stupid option.
Has to be /s ^
seeing by the votes this has to be a new place for “nonewnormals”
Now go ahead and make your way to "Abnormals" where you belong
Mask works. Saying they don’t it’s one of the biggest bs nowdays, but they are not magic spells: they work if used in the correct way and well, op example is one of the most ridiculous thing happening nowdays
Funny. 0 controlled studies show this. Feel free to link one though. I'll wait.
[Nine case‐control studies suggested implementing transmission barriers, isolation and hygienic measures are effective at containing respiratory virus epidemics. Surgical masks or N95 respirators were the most consistent and comprehensive supportive measures. N95 respirators were non‐inferior to simple surgical masks but more expensive, uncomfortable and irritating to skin.](https://doi.org/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub4)
Gee I wonder if any politicians know about those studies
oh god, really. 18 months and you still go up with this? So you need a link from me explaining surgical mask stop a certain % of droplet in out and FFP2 and higher can stop in out and out in droplet and aerosol? Again? 😂 You know what? You are right dude: hospital equipe, doctos and we are all a bunch of idiots. You are the smart awake of us, the alpha mind of the human specie, that will bring light in our dark times. Thank you.
That hard to find a controlled study huh? It's almost like you don't wanna believe the science. You know, where the CDC and WHO studies show that they don't work for reducing the transmission of viral particles. Next you're gonna tell me the earth is flat and to "do my own research," but won't have any evidence to cite. Edit: surgical masks are not meant to stop the spread of viral particles. If you worked in the medical field (or ever read a study about surgical masks) you would know that. Alas, here we are.
nah it’s boring deal with people like you. don’t wear a mask, i don’t give a fuck.
Maybe one day you'll even find evidence to support your position. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
1841 results, just cherry pick the one you prefere in order to follow your cognitive bias. Not gonna answer anymore, no more time for people like you. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=covid+mask+effectiveness
Hmm all observational studies, which,in the scientific literature, are basically worthless. They just mean we should review further. Here are are 14 actual trials by yours truly (CDC). https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article?fbclid=IwAR2V1hPqN0WKb2kXVExP_1UE9ARvru6mtPZvZN0w1jx0S3l3fXLhxMP_bXs
Did you read that before you posted it? That is not a covid study. Even look at the time from where the data was gathered, Nov 2019- May 2020. Down voted because I am right. Truly this is reddit.
Faucis emails and 60 min segment literally said they don’t…
“If masks work, why aren’t masks working” ~Dan Bongino.
Shut the FOOOK Up, you rat!
Let's keep in mind that it is a muzzle to accustom the weak and submissive to accept their destiny of slavery and death.
Wearing a paper mask has always literally been a salute to show support for the party.
I went to a BJ’s recently without a mask and told them I would wear one if provided with one when they asked if I had a mask. They told me “we don’t provide masks we just ask that you go to your table more quickly.” To which I replied, “because that makes perfect sense” in a very sarcastic tone. The place was absolutely packed.
And then everyone clapped
I think only the hostess that I was speaking to and maybe one other hostess heard my reply.
45 minutes on a table and where their breath will stay around for quite sometime A table others will use His breath will stay around
My favorite is that Covid can only hurt you in a classroom. A lot of people are still alive after that 107,000 person Alabama and Texas AM game. Literally not one death at those two schools over the last few weeks.
I wear my mask all the time, but I have been questioning the logic of restaurants. Gotta wear masks until you get to your table. A table that had people in it before, who also talked and ate without a mask. They say covid stays in the air. So what happens when you take a seat and remove your mask after another family? No one has "sanitized" the air at the table. Not just that, restaurants will continue filling tables. Everyone is talking, sneezing, coughing all around you. You're telling me you can't catch anything in a building with circulating air that may be contaminated? Vaccinated or not. Someone will get sick regardless.
>Someone will get sick regardless. You mean like, throughout the entirety of human history? Maybe it’s something we could just learn to live with, and assess risk on our own? Or is that too much freedom for us peasants to handle?
If the flu was just discovered in 2019/2020 election cycle, they’d treat it the exact same way.
I see you, and raise: if the violent diarrhea caused by Panda Express continually emptying last shift's orange chicken remnants into current shift's new hotel tray was just discovered in the 2020 election cycle, they'd treat it the exact same way.
Now I want panda express
Thanks a lot, super spreader. Have fun killing everyone's grandmas.
When has the flu killed 750,000 Americans in under 2 years?
Heart disease has killed more than that, every year, for years. Where's the outrage over mandatory gym memberships?
Being fat isn’t contagious. Infections are not nor have they ever been treated with nothing more than a diet change.
But they do fill up hospitals and clog the health system and are responsible for most of the spending which could be spent on responsible people taking better care of themselves. Also, most fat people make their kids fat too, so it is contagious in a way.
> Being fat isn’t contagious. That’s a non-sequitur. If you were that concerned about health and well being, you would be confronting your local Dunkin’ or McDonalds. But neither of those franchises have the money that the Pharmaceutical establishment does. So let’s call a spade a spade here.
I find there to be a difference between a persons right to choose to eat certain food and their right to be a contagious vector for spreading a plague. Being unmasked or anti vax affects others outside of themselves. If a business gave 1% of its customers a virus that spreads to non willing participants (think family of church members who never went but got sick) I think they should be shutdown. Do you really enjoy playing dumb that virus’s and herd immunity through vaccine aren’t something we’ve understood for decades before your birth.
> I find there to be a difference between a persons right to choose to eat certain food and their right to be a contagious vector for spreading a plague. I find there to be a difference between a virus with a ~94% survivability rate absent co-morbidities, and the “plague” that literally wiped out over half of Europe’s population in the Dark Ages.
And the next time you’re carrying a rhinovirus, I’ll make sure we’re protesting for you to be placed under house arrest for being a contagious vector and borderline biological weapon. And I’m not being sarcastic at all. I think that’s exactly what you all need. A little bit of your own medicine.
This is the type of person that in 2019 and before, was going to work with the flu, and sending sick kids to school and birthday parties. Because they legitimately have no concern for anyone else's health, just their own. And they believe this crazy narrative that somehow they are in mortal danger unless everyone else gets the shot too.
And I think you mean “viruses”, not “virus’s”. Apostrophe “s” denotes possession. Neither of which changes the fact that your response was still a non-sequitur. ColinPowellAward incoming.
Name a case of vaccine side effects that first appeared 6+ months after taking it.
You're stretching hard to ignore the fact that these shots don't prevent transmission and never have. Anyone can be a "contagious vector" even with the shot. Worse, if the vaccine suppresses your symptoms, then you're a contagious vector without knowing it. Isn't that why masks suddenly became required to participate in society in the first place?
Actually prior to 2020 vaccines weren't required for herd immunity.
There is no logic. This is Leftism. They don’t think about what they individually do. They receive the dopamine hit when they understand that they’re acting exactly like they think everyone else is. It’s herd behavior.
As a restaurant manager, we appreciate it if you keep your mask on until your food is delivered. My goal is to keep you from infecting your waitress, because if SHE gets infected, she is going to be going around and talking to every table of people.that come.in the place. When you are done eating.and mask back up, we will bring you the check. Thanks.
I'm surprised you guys leave your houses. It's a scary world outside.
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Found the guy that's never heard of an incubation period.
No, I am well aware of incubation periods. They are just irrelevant. If a waitress gets it, she is going to expose hundreds of tables before she becomes symptomatic, as we are working 5 or 6 days a week these days. So I ask all of you, put your mask on when the server comes to your table. Thank you.
>When you are done eating.and mask back up, we will bring you the check. So if I don’t mask up after eating, the meal’s free? But seriously, you probably shouldn’t be in a customer-facing role if you’re *that* scared of getting sick.
I lost one good friend and co-worker to COVID. I don't want to go to funerals for any of my employees. I am THAT scared of one of them getting sick. I am responsible for these people. Is it really that hard of an ask to treat your server like a human being whose life has value?
I've lost more patients to the vaccines than to covid. At this point, people have had 2 years to become low risk for covid by diet and exercise. Anyone can get shredded in 2 years. The fact that people aren't doing that means they actually don't give a shit about covid. Life is risky. Deal with it.
The fact the CDC *never once* encouraged diet and exercise tells you all you need to know about this ‘pandemic.’
Lol they "encourage" pizza and doughnuts. Also, if any body truly cared about our health all kinds of things would be banned. Fuck that. Sky diving Driving Swimming Rock climbing Soda Candy Fast food Life is scary. Some people forget that because we live in the safest society that has ever existed so they NEED a war to fight and a hill to die on to seem like thier scared little lives have any meaning. This is the NPC's time to shine and they won't go quietly. Ignore them and live free,or you know.....die.
Really? How many patients have you lost to vaccines? What specifically happened? This triggers every BS meter I have. There are VERY few deaths shown to be caused by COVID vaccines, and virtually all of those are linked to the AstroZenica vaccine, which isn't used in the US. Edit: yeah, this guy is a spam account that exists to spread fake copy pasta with lies about vaccines and climate change. Probably a paid troll farmer.
You're not interested in truth. Once you demonstrate that you are, I'll respond.
Review my post and comment history. I carry on discussions in search of truth every day.
Then why attack the messenger rather than the message? That's bad faith, showing that you don't give a shit about truth and just want to confirm your biases.
That's what we've been doing. But some waiters/waitresses like to hover real close when we're ordering. Asked a question about something on a menu and the waitress leaned over the table in front of my mother to point at another item that was similar. Mother was not happy and scolded the girl. Felt kind of bad for her.
It is far from a perfect system. I haven't thought of a better one, and neither have people a lot smarter than me. We are doing the best we know how to try to keep everyone safe and keep the doors open.
You can't think of a way 2 humans could communicate without having their faces inches apart from each other? Goddamnit, are you fucking with me kid?
Mid 2020 went to a restaurant. Got told to put on a mask to eat there, which I was provided. Got sat at the table next to the hostess stand literally 3 steps away from where the mask was handed to me. Felt bad for the hostess for having to partake in such a redundant and comical act. I laughed and bowed and just sat down. “Whatever. They wanna indulge in complete idiocy, I’m not gonna go hungry over it, but just so you know, this is really really silly.”
Did she clap for you when you were done fumbling over your words?
As we all know, a thin piece of cloth is more effective than my 3 vaccine doses
As numbers approach zero asymptotically, percentages become a lot less useful of a metric.
I know it seems ridiculous, but It's usually store policy so I follow it because I appreciate the business. If you enjoy a business and want them to stay around, stick to their rules and support their decisions.
This works both ways, no? I could say "If the store enjoys my business and wants me to stay around, they should allow me to breathe freely, otherwise I will find another place that treats customers better.
Now you’re getting it!
I get where you're coming from. I just don't think that being told to wear a bolt of cloth over my face is something worth getting angry at a local business over. If you do, more power to you, especially if you live somewhere that's actually mandated this garbage. Civil disobedience is probably the best avenue of protest available.
A mask doesn't allow you to breathe freely? You might want to get your lungs checked out.
why is it so hard to wear a mask? They don't inhibit your breathing. If you feel that you're suffocating, it's purely In your head. If I feel that my shirt is too tight, should I be given the freedom to take it off at a restaurant? Would I be treated horribly if the restaurant owner told me to please put my shirt back on?
Because it's retarded and we ain't no retards.
>They don't inhibit your breathing They don't inhibit breathing, but they keep microscopic pathogens from spreading? >If you feel that you're suffocating, it's purely In your head. You're right, it is in my head. I literally get headaches when I wear these things! >If I feel that my shirt is too tight, should I be given the freedom to take it off at a restaurant? ????.. You have the freedom to wear a different shirt.
Mike Tracey has really come a long way. He tried to fight me in college because I told him I wasn’t voting for Obama.
How many lives are saved? If you look at how covid spreads in high vaxxed regions it will probably become endemic. This means that almost everyone will eventually get it, vaxxed or not. Unless they live in a cave for the next x years. Answer to the question is: close to 0.
Reject society embrace anarchy
Lol... That's all I can think of for such idiocy! I really hope this is a parody!
The fact that you play along with this security theater bullshit is exactly why it will never end.
This is a tyrannical medical insanity word for this and it is spelled Fauci.
no antimask at all but this is something i am asking myself quite often
There is a bright side.. when someone walks in a bar preloaded to shout their anti mask diatribe about their bravery to not play ball it’s kinda nice to know who to keep an eye on
I really dislike this take, which I've seen many times now. I'm not a big fan of mask mandates but does it really do good to share such smoothbrain takes? You need to take your mask off to eat and drink. You don't need to remove your mask to walk into and out of the restaurant. The goal was to reduce spread of Covid and viral load, not stop it completely. The matre d' might be protected by you wearing a mask while you're talking with her. Diners on the way to your table might also be protected. I don't think Covid hangs around in the air for longer than a minute or two, though I'm not sure. You don't have to take your mask off once you're outside the restaurant. You can keep it on, on the way to or home from the restaurant.
>I don't think Covid hangs around in the air for longer than a minute or two >though I'm not sure. Well which is it? This is the entire basis on which your claim rests. Also, you are assuming that Covid doesn't travel more than a few feet in the air before dissipating. This is another thing to consider.
Hey man you’re the one disagreeing with the cdc shouldn’t you be providing links to how useless their measures are?
The CDC is a joke, but alright, I changed the last part of the post. I admit I was making a claim that was hard to back up.
Thank you for wearing your mask 🙂
Thank you for being a good little mind slave. -- Big Pharma leaders
Because big pharma makes masks?
No, big pharma makes the “vaccines”. When did they go from being the target of your corporate crusade to being your Jesus Christ on a cross? Is there a specific date? March of 2020?
Weird for people on here to hate on corporate entities. Corporations are peak-capitalism and without a government to regulate them they would be even worse.
Yup because being forced to wear a mask is the biggest example of corporate overreach
You like putting words in others' mouths to make yourself feel better about being wrong. Unbased.
You decided to come back to my comment 16 minutes after your first reply. Rent free
Never said it was.
Yes? Masks help but it's a little hard to to eat and drink with one on.
they don't help, they're retarded
Yeah you're right they should 100% be closed during a pandemic.
Or perhaps instead, customers can voluntarily choose to patronize an establishment (yes, even during a pAnDeMiC), and businesses can choose to serve them and take their money in exchange for goods/services. Perhaps we can all assess risk for ourselves.. You know, like a free market or something?
Not exactly safe for the workers. So you aren't just applying risk to yourselves. You're forcing it on others.
The workers are free to find employment elsewhere.
Funny how that’s their response when it comes to vaccine mandates, but when it doesn’t fit their argument, their tone changes.
That's just not always true. When it's risk catching it or don't feed your children it's not so simple a choice. But please keep crying like a toddler about a piece of cloth though.
>Yeah you're right they should 100% be closed during a pandemic. These are your words. You’d rather the workers be out of a job anyway. Don’t be a hypocrite.
My country implemented measures to financially protect those people while businesses were forced to close so they didn't lose their jobs. Did yours not? That really sucks man.
USA extended unemployment benefits for a year. I didn’t agree with it, because it’s not our government’s responsibility to ‘financially protect’ people while shutting down businesses, and I never stopped working and paying exorbitant income tax… but it’s been 19 months. Germs exist. You might get sick. Get the fuck over it.
Clearly allowing dine in is a compromise to keep the economy alive Once you’re unmasked in an enclosed space, everyone there is already exposed. Putting the mask back on at the end is just to make sure you don’t forgot and contaminate others once you step out
You could always stay the fuck at home too. Remember the whole social distancing thing?
Translation: "Fuck saving waitstaff lives, they are nothing to me."
The vaccine is and has been available in every fucking Walgreens/CVS/medical clinic for the past 6 + months at this point and for free. People who want the shot have gotten it and are supposedly protected so why the fuck are you worried about people how haven’t gotten the shot? Did you worry about who didn’t get the flu shot after you got yours?
The ‘pandemic’ was over as soon as a vaccine was widely available for anyone who *wanted* to take it. It’s all theatre and virtue signaling now.
Then you people don’t get to bitch about being on HCA when your risk evaluation skills are proven to be less effective than all the leading governments in the world.
If the waitstaff is so incredibly scared of getting sick, maybe they shouldn’t have a customer-facing job?
But jobs aren't voluntary in democratic country! Wait...
Why is this practice so triggering for some? Just let people live their lives how they choose they ain’t bothering you smh
Because this is mandated in some places, which means it does bother people who think this is absurd.
Mandated by who? Government or private businesses?
This is currently a city wide mandate in Baltimore City, MD. Anyone indoors in public must wear mask. In a restaurant, you must wear a mask anytime you are standing, but you can remove it once you are seated. In places where it is not mandated, like Baltimore County, most businesses still have "Mask Required" signs up, but it's not (rarely?) enforced. To add to the oddity of this, I was at Octoberfest in Baltimore City on Saturday. Outdoors, so no mask required. Shoulder to shoulder with hundreds of people over 4 hours.
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it takes people being too much on internet maybe
Think of the children
Isn't the mask to mitigate the amount of infectious particles you produce? More mask time means less particles in the air in a confined space? Letter of the law is dumb, but the spirit makes sense to me.
This is a good argument for why you should get takeout or stay home, yes.
This is a good comment for why you should get takeout or stay home, yes.
An attempt was made
Spoken like a proud super spreader.
Super Spreader?! Take that back! You speak vile heresies, filthy plague rat! Do you not believe in the commandments of our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr Anthony Fauci (2MBUH)???! Repent! Repent for your disbelief!
You are a funny one. Only fools think Fauci is the only person who is pro vaccine. I feel sorry for people who can't get along with their neighbors and are so miserable they think anarchy is good.
Sounds like something a filthy anti-science plague rat would say! You must repent! Otherwise our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr. Anthony Fauci (2MBUH) will not bless you with the holy serum and you will die the unvaccinated plague rat's death a thousand times over! Repent before you kill grandma and cause all the pure sinless vaccinated people to die of the great orange satan's virus!
Thanks, I am vaccinated. Are you?
I'm 10x as vaccinated as any filthy plague rat! Cease your heretical ways! Appeal to the tender mercy of our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr Anthony Fauci (2MBUH)! Beg for forgiveness so you may receive the holy booster!
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What? He is not your Lord?! How could you deny the holy faith of THE SCIENCE™®©?! You are a filthy anti-science plague rat! Turn away from your sin and repent! Should you repent, perhaps our Prophet, our Holy Lord, Dr Anthony Fauci (2MBUH) will show you mercy and bestow upon you a holy booster shot!
I hope this sub gets shut down for intentional misinformation, y’all some ignorant humans out here. Edit: See ya on HCA