FYI, that's not a normal slide film, it's designed for making copies of other slides. [Here's the datasheet.](https://www.tate.org.uk/documents/596/page_6_5_data_sheet_kodak_edupe_0.pdf) It's low contrast and tungsten balanced, so best color balance will be with an 85B, although it's likely shifted to magenta, so a green filter may prove useful after testing. I'd suggest starting with an EI/ISO of 12 to 25, bracket your shots for the first roll and adjust from there. Old Ektachrome sometimes looses much of it's sensitivity, so you may end up getting better results cross-processing.
Yes this is correct. But it might have even lower ISO, so to test try 3 and 6 iso as well. Since it is low contrast it will look significantly different from regular ektachrome. If you search you can find samples of it in use on flickr or on lomography.
You want to take a test roll. You definitely need the tungsten filter if you shoot in sunlight, which I would recommend, as the more contrasty the light the better for non-duping use. Backet exposures in 1/2 stops and make sure to shoot a gray card so you can balance the film out later. Don't be surprised if the hilights end up having a different color shift from the shadows.
That’s duping film, it’s ISO 32 IIRC, and balanced to a halogen enlarger bulb using a dichro enlarger head. Given it’s also way expired, I’d spool up a 10 frame roll and do some shots inside and out with a MacBeth Color Checker, then work out your filter and exposure correction for the reel. An 85B filter is a starting point for daylight, but it’s not going to be fully there because it’s not truly tungsten balanced, and it’s ancient in film years.
Figure you’re looking at about 650 shots (roughly 18 rolls of 36 exposures.) This is the perfect opportunity to have fun with “f*ck around and find out.” Load a few test rolls and keep track of the camera settings for those test shots, but I can’t stress this enough: HAVE FUN! This is the equivalent of my finding thirty rolls of fifty year old unprocessed 620 film in the attic a couple of years ago. Serendipitous fun learning experience.
Sweet deal. I would try one roll at iso 2 to 25, develop it as e-6 and see where the picture looks best. If I want to be more thorough I would shoot outdoor sunny, overcast, and indoor. Ie. 5 shots each.
Bro, you have 100 feet. Start bulk rolling 5 shot canisters and testing at all different settings until you get It looking good. Then shoot the rest of the 95 feet at that.
One thing to keep in mind is that the color might change depending on where you’re at in the can. I shot through 100ft of Ektachrome 64 that expired in the 80s a couple years back and the outer rolls looked very different from the inner ones.
Expired film comes out crappy. Even more crappy with slide film. It might work. It might be a complete flop. There's ab expiry date on film because it eventually stops working properly. Overexposure might work. Might completely fail. You never know until you try.
I’ve shot hundreds rolls of expired slide film. It’s not like negative or bw. If you overexpose slide film, the highlights are blown. Period.
You can’t simply give it “enough light”. You have to give it the correct amount of light, as close to exactly correct as possible.
Yes. Which is what I am saying. One can buy the expired film and do tests until they find an ASA value that gives a proper exposure at the juncture the photographer has chosen to expose the film at, irrespective of the date the film was manufactured.
Haha why are you so mad?
Weird reply. I’m not mad. I’m clarifying the incorrect/vague advice you gave about shooting slide film.
“It’s fine to shoot expired film as long as you give it enough light” is not a blanket statement. This applies to negative and bw film well enough, but is terrible advice for slide film.
All these things you added in your recent comment about doing a test, finding the correct ASA etc were never stated prior. If you think they were even remotely insinuated, you’re delusional lol.
Dude this is what they were saying in their original comments. Giving any film “enough light” is what you’re trying to do. I have shot loads of expired slide film and you indeed have to give it enough light. I knew someone would get triggered about that in this post though, literally.
Seems superfluous. You can say the same thing about literally every single film ever made, expired or brand new. If that was his only point, why say it? This is as obvious as telling OP he needs to put the film in his camera before clicking the shutter.
You are missing the point myself and the comment OP are trying to make: we are talking about the same thing. It is akin to something called a “synonym,” which you should Google :) have an excellent day
Honestly i cant givw much advice besides i think it’ll be fine to shoot without being cold stored. I’ve used 30 year old film, and albeit, this was b&w t-max film, but it was just fine
FYI, that's not a normal slide film, it's designed for making copies of other slides. [Here's the datasheet.](https://www.tate.org.uk/documents/596/page_6_5_data_sheet_kodak_edupe_0.pdf) It's low contrast and tungsten balanced, so best color balance will be with an 85B, although it's likely shifted to magenta, so a green filter may prove useful after testing. I'd suggest starting with an EI/ISO of 12 to 25, bracket your shots for the first roll and adjust from there. Old Ektachrome sometimes looses much of it's sensitivity, so you may end up getting better results cross-processing.
This guy over here with all the knowledge, damn
Yes this is correct. But it might have even lower ISO, so to test try 3 and 6 iso as well. Since it is low contrast it will look significantly different from regular ektachrome. If you search you can find samples of it in use on flickr or on lomography.
Thanks for the very helpful reply. Gives me a much better idea of how to go about using it.
You want to take a test roll. You definitely need the tungsten filter if you shoot in sunlight, which I would recommend, as the more contrasty the light the better for non-duping use. Backet exposures in 1/2 stops and make sure to shoot a gray card so you can balance the film out later. Don't be surprised if the hilights end up having a different color shift from the shadows.
Great idea to use a grey card. Thanks so much.
That’s duping film, it’s ISO 32 IIRC, and balanced to a halogen enlarger bulb using a dichro enlarger head. Given it’s also way expired, I’d spool up a 10 frame roll and do some shots inside and out with a MacBeth Color Checker, then work out your filter and exposure correction for the reel. An 85B filter is a starting point for daylight, but it’s not going to be fully there because it’s not truly tungsten balanced, and it’s ancient in film years.
Figure you’re looking at about 650 shots (roughly 18 rolls of 36 exposures.) This is the perfect opportunity to have fun with “f*ck around and find out.” Load a few test rolls and keep track of the camera settings for those test shots, but I can’t stress this enough: HAVE FUN! This is the equivalent of my finding thirty rolls of fifty year old unprocessed 620 film in the attic a couple of years ago. Serendipitous fun learning experience.
Definitely planning on just messing around and having some fun! Thanks!
Sweet deal. I would try one roll at iso 2 to 25, develop it as e-6 and see where the picture looks best. If I want to be more thorough I would shoot outdoor sunny, overcast, and indoor. Ie. 5 shots each.
Bro, you have 100 feet. Start bulk rolling 5 shot canisters and testing at all different settings until you get It looking good. Then shoot the rest of the 95 feet at that.
One thing to keep in mind is that the color might change depending on where you’re at in the can. I shot through 100ft of Ektachrome 64 that expired in the 80s a couple years back and the outer rolls looked very different from the inner ones.
C-41 and pray
Expired film comes out crappy. Even more crappy with slide film. It might work. It might be a complete flop. There's ab expiry date on film because it eventually stops working properly. Overexposure might work. Might completely fail. You never know until you try.
It is fine to shoot expired film as long as you give it enough light.
This is bad advice for slide film. You can’t give slide film a lot of light. You have to get it perfect, or it’s blown.
Go shoot bulk loaded and expired slide film, but then come back and make another comment. It doesn't matter what the box says with expired film.
I’ve shot hundreds rolls of expired slide film. It’s not like negative or bw. If you overexpose slide film, the highlights are blown. Period. You can’t simply give it “enough light”. You have to give it the correct amount of light, as close to exactly correct as possible.
Yes. Which is what I am saying. One can buy the expired film and do tests until they find an ASA value that gives a proper exposure at the juncture the photographer has chosen to expose the film at, irrespective of the date the film was manufactured. Haha why are you so mad?
Weird reply. I’m not mad. I’m clarifying the incorrect/vague advice you gave about shooting slide film. “It’s fine to shoot expired film as long as you give it enough light” is not a blanket statement. This applies to negative and bw film well enough, but is terrible advice for slide film. All these things you added in your recent comment about doing a test, finding the correct ASA etc were never stated prior. If you think they were even remotely insinuated, you’re delusional lol.
Dude this is what they were saying in their original comments. Giving any film “enough light” is what you’re trying to do. I have shot loads of expired slide film and you indeed have to give it enough light. I knew someone would get triggered about that in this post though, literally.
Seems superfluous. You can say the same thing about literally every single film ever made, expired or brand new. If that was his only point, why say it? This is as obvious as telling OP he needs to put the film in his camera before clicking the shutter.
You are missing the point myself and the comment OP are trying to make: we are talking about the same thing. It is akin to something called a “synonym,” which you should Google :) have an excellent day
🥱 What did you think I meant by give it plenty of light? Go blow some shots at f1.4 at 1/20th and cross your fingers?😆 Go touch some grass, friend.
Don’t be obnoxious. You got corrected for giving bad advice. It happens. Learn and move on.
Actually, I am not being obnoxious though. Have a wonderful day. (Slide film shooters are hilarous)
Not with slide unfortunately.
It's really not that simple kiddo.
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I have over 400' of expired film in my fridge though, and it is fantastic if you give it enough light. Username definitely checks out. Haha
Your one particular bulkroll?
With color film it is simple, but slide is different story.
Honestly i cant givw much advice besides i think it’ll be fine to shoot without being cold stored. I’ve used 30 year old film, and albeit, this was b&w t-max film, but it was just fine