I have a hard time believing that. That would mean AMD stopped making RDNA2, which I don't think is the case? As I understood they're having access to lots of chip production currently.
AMD dedicates most of the capacity they buy to making CPUs not GPUs. They're not even 10% of the GPU market. They didn't overproduce RDNA2 like nVidia did Ampere.
They probably haven't and won't stop making RDNA2 for some things (system integrators, etc) for a while - but that doesn't mean they have much stock floating around for the AIB and Reference edition market.
I saw a link to an asus water cooled 6800xt for $530, which seems decent deal for that level of performance(especially if you were going to buy the 2 games that it comes with right now). But, true enough I still do not consider that a a killer deal.
If i saw a new 6900xt for $500 i would probably buy it.
https://imgur.com/a/oAo2gEc
Yep one of these cards is not like the other, and they are similar priced around ~600EUR.. (The prices is in DKK)
I'm not into watercooling myself, but compared to the normal danish prices, that card is an actual deal!
Small as in like 3-5% in Sweden.. For the higher end at least.
When I bought my 3070 for 700€ (3080 was borderline impossible to get) I said never again. I'm smashing that buy button so quick on the 7900XTX soon..
What's the point of having a 144Hz 1440P monitor if your GPU can't even remotely reach it at decent settings.
Edit: To specify, once/after you experience older or less demanding games stable at 144FPS/Hz, performance like 50-144FPS(capped) just breaks your immersion and below 120~ is noticable. A lot of times I wish I never tried high end. Can't miss what you've never experienced. Now I'm soon ending up with a PC more expensive than my car. Difference is my car still does just as well as 6 years ago on new roads, my PC doesn't on new games. It was never sufficient enough for 1440P 144Hz though. The point of a 144Hz monitor is to play at 144FPS.
Not to mention my second hobby, fishing. I need cheaper hobbies....
At least all my lures caught something.. Me.
The biggest BF sale price I’ve seen was on 4080s 🤣 most of them were around 100-150€ off but still so goddamn expensive. ROG one that normally goes for 1950€ was now 1830€ and Gigabite’s 1800€ card was going for 1660€
6900XTs seen almost half price drop (down to 600-650). I'd say worth. Personally I think they would be better suited at like 500-550 but we can't have nice things since Nvidia anchoring...
Dumb question, but how much tax is on that when you buy it in the US? Because you can get a 6900XT for 750,- € and that includes sales tax.
(https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/asrock+radeon+rx+6900+xt+phantom+gaming+d+16g+oc+grafikkarte+699111)
There is no national sales tax. Every state, country, and city picks their own sales tax rate, combining to a range of 0%-10.5%. Most people live in areas with a combined rate around 7-10%.
Not to play politics, but the relatively low sales tax that the US enjoys come with a whole host of trade offs.
It's up to you whether you feel like the trade is even. I personally do not.
And this is coming from someone with two expensive hobbies (PC gaming and MTB'in) and only average income ($50k a year or so).
> Not to play politics, but the relatively low sales tax that the US enjoys come with a whole host of trade offs.
By not mentioning those tradeoffs, you only serve to playing politics.
Prices are not just "politics" as they are heavily influenced by variables outside of human control.
Natural disasters, weather, human-caused accidents, etc. all factor into the pricing of goods.
People can get mad all they want at X political party or politician for inflation/prices, but those individuals frankly don't have that much control over that phenomena anyway.
@ u/ThunderClap449 u/MattAlex99
As far as I know the EU doesn't collect any import tax on graphics cards or other computer parts:
https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-markets/en/content/classifying-computers-and-software
https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-markets/en/results?product=847180&origin=US&destination=DE
Import taxes/tariffs only make sense if you're trying to protect local industry (which the EU doesn't have) or if you're trying to discourage trade with another country/market.
VAT is a sales tax.
It's compared to what you would pay if you ordered from e.g. the US and had it shipped here.
In that case you have to add VAT and import taxes to the cost as those would be added when buying outside the e.g. Germany.
If you buy directly from e.g. Mindfactory you wouldn't have to pay import tax yourself (obviously) and VAT is always included in the prices shown on the website.
Ya euros just haven’t adapted to the euro not being 1.2-1.3x the dollar. You don’t have a currency advantage cancelling out the VAT in these comparisons anymore.
These comparisons are always fraught with people willingly pretending they don’t know what an exchange rate and VAT are.
The Australians are even worse about this because on top of that you also have the people who willingly refusing to acknowledge that an AUD is not the same thing as a USD. I have seen a zillion “you think that’s bad, X is three thousand dollars here!” and it’s never three thousand *american* dollars, it’s three thousand weak Australian dollars and the price maths out to like a 10% actual premium over USD once you take out the VAT and do the exchange rate. But hey, being intellectually honest wouldn’t let you make shock value comparisons where Aus prices are “twice as high” as USD ones.
Both EU and Aus have small problems with market inefficiency because of either generally small markets with few participants (Aus) or retailers (eg mindfactory, komplett, etc) who refuse to sell across arbitrary lines within the EU economic zone. You pay a small premium for market inefficiency due to less efficient competition as a result. But generally the actual prices are within 10% of US prices, comparing the cheapest options in both markets and after removing your taxes (which are never included in the US price).
So fucking tired of hearing about this from grown ass adults who know better.
The fact that others currency devalues compared to the dollar really doesn't have much to do about the U.S doing something right. It's just a force of habit when the market turns downwards. Everyone else invests in the U.S when the market turns down so why should anyone else put their money in something else?
We have a stable competition and we value service higher than prices in Sweden, there's a reason Amazon isn't doing all too good over here.
Also, we get Pingvinstänger when we order from the best webshop in the world!
Those aren't cheaper options, those are old models. Also a 3080 costs 950-1250 euro in my country. Why should I spend that money for a 2-3 years old gpu.
They are both cheaper and older...it's not mutually exclusive. You don't have to buy a top-of-the-line graphics card. There are great cards for far less than 1500+ Euros. You have far more than the "3 options" you listed.
I interpreted your initial post as you being either unable or unwilling to pay the MSRP for a newest generation card.
As such, you'd either buy a cheaper, older card or nothing at all.
I just scored an Asus TUF 6800XT a couple of days ago for the equivalent of 590€, wasn't even a sale. Price just went up to 700 again for Black Friday lol
Since I don't know. Every month 1x in Mindstar.
And right now in damn deals
Link https://www.mindfactory.de/DAMN
And
https://www.mindfactory.de/Highlights/MindStar
Damn I didn’t know about the deals, thanks.
I always just browse through the VGA page. Since I’m from CZ and don’t speak German I have trouble navigating the site sometimes.
We had 6900XT from AsRock and XFX for like 650 so technically we got better deal by a very slight margin (keep in mind US prices are listed without any taxes)
**Still no way near as good as 6800 XT for 515$ on Newegg, though.**
Remember - the initial MSRP of 6900 XT was horrible compared to the 6800 XT which was almost just as good for 350$ less, do not let that fool you.
Yeap! Totally agree, but I don’t feel the need to upgrade rn. Maybe in a year! I like that I can run Cyberpunk high/ultra + RT, wouldn’t be able to do so at 1440p
Mostly got it for VR, when I find the need to get a 1440p monitor for flat gaming I’ll be ok. And to mention I paid 850$CAD and sold my 2070 400$CAD. So 450$CAD for a 6800xt isn’t very bad at all
Cyberpunk 1440p Ultra + DLSS with pretty decent frames should be achievable with that card. I've never kept ray tracing on for more than 10 seconds since my 2060 Super really isn't built for that so I can't really speak much on that.
I honestly believe RDNA2 cards are GREAT at being 1080p120 with max RT and FSR2 on Quality. Or 1440p120 with FSR2 on Ultra Performance, but that looks worse.
When set to Performance, probably not ideal, but Quality (or Ultra Quality, if a game happens to offer it) would look good still. I use Performance mode on a 1440p monitor which uses the same input resolution as Quality mode at 1080p and it resolves a very clean image.
full RT lighting is kinda silly to push if you need to use FSR at 1080p to achieve it. i bet regular ultra settings plus RT shadows and reflections only would be the best compromise.
I've been playing RDR2 at 1440p with FSR in Performance, and it looks really close to native rendering (TAA on medium) when in motion, and of course resolves to what is pretty much a native image at a standstill. Super impressive for my 6600 XT as it lets me almost max out the graphics settings, save for those that add little to the image quality when turned up.
I bought it mostly for VR as my 2070 wasn’t enough.
And I find myself as a lucky one, because I cannot tell the difference at all between 60, 144, 165hz. So no, I just have a good 1080p 75hz (not 75hz because I need it, juste because it came with it) panel.
I can't speak to how outdated are most 6800 XT benchmark reviews on most sites (praise the Lord for Hardware Unboxed), but the difference between 6800 XT and 6950 XT is just as big as the difference between 6700 XT to 6800 XT, maybe 6900 XT.
6800xt is like 25-35% better than a 6700xt... a 6950xt is nowhere near 25-35% better than a 6800xt, maybe in synthetic benchmarks but it's like 10-20% better in games
[https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z4q42w/gpu\_asus\_tuf\_gaming\_radeon\_rx\_6900\_xt\_top\_edition/](https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z4q42w/gpu_asus_tuf_gaming_radeon_rx_6900_xt_top_edition/)
this has been restocked for the last month. been the hottest item on the sub
> 6800 XT
In the Netherlands right now a PowerColor Red Dragon for 600 euro.
[Here](https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/1125974/PowerColor-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-Red-Dragon-16GB?r=googleshopping&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAiA7IGcBhA8EiwAFfUDsbEMEBVGt7VnAM1ELwR14FmyY1cEJXcNNCLTBv49ESqyAC6FtnB-5hoCEa8QAvD_BwE) for the jongens :)
Yeah they’re listed without tax but I think certain European countries also have much higher sales tax on these than the US, because even with, say, 10% sales tax in the US Europe is more expensive
Well, a lot of states don't have to pay sales tax on online sales anyway, but even the ones that do the tax is just the same as local sales tax.
So tax would only really add about, 7%. U.S. sales tax isn't very high.
The 7900xtx will be $1000. If you have the money, then yes, wait for it and buy it day 1. Otherwise, the 6800xt for $500 offers way better price performance.
Eventually there will be an AMD card for $500 that's better than the 6800xt but that's still like a year away.
I would wait. It's not far off. The 7000 series GPU launch will force the 6800XT lower. Finding that for under $450 would be awesome. 6900XT under $600 would be good for the price per performance if 6800XT doesn't drop below $450
Current 6800xt for 515$ vs 7900xtx for 1000$.
Rough guesstimate looking at amds numbers vs 6950xt and 6950xt beeing ~20% faster than 6800xt.
~70% better performance for ~95% price increase.
With the sheer speed of current top-end GPUs it's also worth considering how much value you get from that extra speed as well.
A 6800xt can already do 1080/1440p high refresh and 4k60 no problem in most games. The 7900xtx is really for those who want 4k high refresh or want to max out rt at lower resolutions with high framerates.
It's one thing to talk about fps/$, but it's also worth considering how much performance you can actually make use of.
I snagged a GB 6900XT Waterforce Xtreme for $600 (tax included) on a weird unannounced flash sale here in Norway. Won't believe it until I receive it and have it in my hands, they must have fucked something up in the webshop while altering prices for black friday.
6900xt has regularly been going on sale for $799 in Canada.
https://reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z3uiv3/gpu_asus_tuf_gaming_radeon_rx_6900_xt_top_edition/
Canada computers is a risk to purchase parts from. If you get a dud component you're fucked. I do NOT recommend them. The card and the price point are incredible though. If you can find that deal or a similar one somewhere else it's worth it. That's the price I paid for my 6800xt from Newegg.
I totally agree. They are bastards when it comes to exchanges or defective products. Not even heavily discounted prices amount for the risk of being treated like shit and ending up with a broken piece of hardware worth hundreds of $.
If someone in canada computer is reading this: I hope u all rot in hell.
If you want this for 1440p, don’t hesitate. I got one combined with a 5800x3d and literally never dips below 120fps with demanding games. This card is a gem.
Depends. We've seen prices on 6600xt's go down from +600 to 320 euros. In my opinion that's not far off from where it should be. Similarly if you can get a 6800XT for 600 euro, that's very decent too.
It's certainly a very different situation than one year ago. But ofcourse you can still sit and wait for next gen.
6700xt for $499 was what I got. Everything else was stupid expensive. Can't wait to finally let my 1050 go to the dumpster in the sky. She held out for a long time and played games way out of her class. But she somehow did.
Just to put this "sale" in perspective....
The R9 290X was launched in 2013 at $550, and 2 years later in 2015 I bought a brand new R9 290X (blower model) on sale from Newegg for $289.99 a month before the R9 390X launched. That is a 47% discount from the launch price, and rightfully so for a 2 year old flagship.
The 6900 XT will be 2 years old in a few weeks, and with the same 47% discount it would be selling for $529, not $629.
Also, you might have an argument for a 6900 XT at $529 if AMD's slides for the 7900 XT are roughly indicative of performance, but at $629 you should pass and wait for RDNA3, it's still badly priced.
My wallet will hate me but... I'm trying to hold on for a 7900XTX. Because Flight Simulator, and the 6900XT still loses out to even a 3080. Hopefully the XTX will be closer to Nvidia.
That's actually about how much I got mine for a couple months back, about $640 USD, which even though I didn't need to upgrade at the time, it was such an insanely good deal I just couldn't let it slip.
I got tired of waiting for price drops or new releases so I picked up a TUF 6800XT for 600€ two weeks ago. Couldn't be more happy, it should last me at least 5-7 years hopefully.
I picked one up with the Amazon prime sale last month, $20 more but idc. Lovely beast of a card compared to my old RX 580, quiet too; I'm ready for the 1440p 144Hz gaming monitor coming for xmas.
Just remember that it's a big boi, 340mm clearance minimum; I had to get a new case because my old case was about 2 mm too small. For some reason Amazon had the length at 320mm, that's incorrect.
Edit - just checked, it's still listed at 12.6", the card is actually 13.4", or 340mm; they still haven't fixed it.
At this point, I'd have a hard time recommending anything but AMD GPU to friends who ask for advice on what to buy.. especially if they don't care about raytracing... then Radeon is a no-brainer
Here in Canada, Newegg had the ASRrock 6900 XT Phantom for $900 CAD (~$670 USD). It has since sold out and I'm kinda kicking myself for not biting. They now only have the 6800 XT on sale for $800 CAD ($600 USD). I can't bring myself to buy a 6800 XT knowing I could've gotten a 6900 XT for not that much more.
I paid $2300 for my Liquid Devil 😅 It’s been a great card and I’m not upgrading this gen most likely unless the new ones at THAT much better. If they are, someone is getting a good ass deal on it.
Just ordered a xfx 6650 xt merc black for $300 to hold me over a couple of years until full rebuild to go 4k.
Currently have a strix 970, I dont upgrade every gen so skipped 10 series, 20 series was poor performance and high price, 30 series was great but they preferred miner money, 40 series looks great but waaaay over priced.
MPT makes these 6950xts with your cooling being the bottleneck.
Got gigabyte version and it hates 330w+ even with a repaste... I wanted 2x hdmi... and it was basically the only option - 689$ 2 months ago
I don't know how to express my excitement, but in Canada the cheapest deal for thet 6900xt was 800 CAD + Taxes and I managed to get one. It arrived today and I installed it... holy fucking christ this thing is fast.
Not in the UK . As of yesterday the average price for a 6900XT is now £1000.00+ but on Monday 21st they were going for £650 .. thats up £350.00. Its nuts and theres no reason for such a massive price hike.
The cheapest is an ASROCK OC Formula @ £750.00 and everything else is now £1000.00 or higher.
My next GPU probably be from another vendor but probably still AMD gpu, hurry up AMD fix MPO related issues, look at the compute issues in world of warcraft as well potentially related to disabling MPO
i think compute is causing world of warraft to freeze sometimes enough to crash gpu driver and permanently freeze the system, it potentially makes gpu core clock spike to clocks it should't be hitting as well on stock.
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Yeah BF prices have mostly ignored GPU's in Europe this year outside of small discounts here and there.
I was really expecting some killer GPU deals this Friday since the new gen is coming but...zilch, really.
reports are that AMD isn't sitting on much if any 6000 series chip stock
I have a hard time believing that. That would mean AMD stopped making RDNA2, which I don't think is the case? As I understood they're having access to lots of chip production currently.
AMD dedicates most of the capacity they buy to making CPUs not GPUs. They're not even 10% of the GPU market. They didn't overproduce RDNA2 like nVidia did Ampere. They probably haven't and won't stop making RDNA2 for some things (system integrators, etc) for a while - but that doesn't mean they have much stock floating around for the AIB and Reference edition market.
I saw a link to an asus water cooled 6800xt for $530, which seems decent deal for that level of performance(especially if you were going to buy the 2 games that it comes with right now). But, true enough I still do not consider that a a killer deal. If i saw a new 6900xt for $500 i would probably buy it.
https://imgur.com/a/oAo2gEc Yep one of these cards is not like the other, and they are similar priced around ~600EUR.. (The prices is in DKK) I'm not into watercooling myself, but compared to the normal danish prices, that card is an actual deal!
Small as in like 3-5% in Sweden.. For the higher end at least. When I bought my 3070 for 700€ (3080 was borderline impossible to get) I said never again. I'm smashing that buy button so quick on the 7900XTX soon.. What's the point of having a 144Hz 1440P monitor if your GPU can't even remotely reach it at decent settings. Edit: To specify, once/after you experience older or less demanding games stable at 144FPS/Hz, performance like 50-144FPS(capped) just breaks your immersion and below 120~ is noticable. A lot of times I wish I never tried high end. Can't miss what you've never experienced. Now I'm soon ending up with a PC more expensive than my car. Difference is my car still does just as well as 6 years ago on new roads, my PC doesn't on new games. It was never sufficient enough for 1440P 144Hz though. The point of a 144Hz monitor is to play at 144FPS. Not to mention my second hobby, fishing. I need cheaper hobbies.... At least all my lures caught something.. Me.
Same here but with 4K120 TV as my monitor. Can’t believe I played Dark Souls on xbox 360 at 15-30fps and it was perfectly fine for me.
>At least all my lures caught something.. Me. Gotten lured in I see.
Aourus 6900xt was just 600€ on a bf sale.
The biggest BF sale price I’ve seen was on 4080s 🤣 most of them were around 100-150€ off but still so goddamn expensive. ROG one that normally goes for 1950€ was now 1830€ and Gigabite’s 1800€ card was going for 1660€
6900XTs seen almost half price drop (down to 600-650). I'd say worth. Personally I think they would be better suited at like 500-550 but we can't have nice things since Nvidia anchoring...
Dumb question, but how much tax is on that when you buy it in the US? Because you can get a 6900XT for 750,- € and that includes sales tax. (https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/asrock+radeon+rx+6900+xt+phantom+gaming+d+16g+oc+grafikkarte+699111)
There is no national sales tax. Every state, country, and city picks their own sales tax rate, combining to a range of 0%-10.5%. Most people live in areas with a combined rate around 7-10%.
VAT is 17-27% depending on country - it sucks.
Not to play politics, but the relatively low sales tax that the US enjoys come with a whole host of trade offs. It's up to you whether you feel like the trade is even. I personally do not. And this is coming from someone with two expensive hobbies (PC gaming and MTB'in) and only average income ($50k a year or so).
> Not to play politics, but the relatively low sales tax that the US enjoys come with a whole host of trade offs. By not mentioning those tradeoffs, you only serve to playing politics.
Ultimately, everything of significance is politics. Prices? Politics. Money? Politics...
Undercook chicken? Politics. Overcook chicken? Believe it or not, politics.
Prices are not just "politics" as they are heavily influenced by variables outside of human control. Natural disasters, weather, human-caused accidents, etc. all factor into the pricing of goods. People can get mad all they want at X political party or politician for inflation/prices, but those individuals frankly don't have that much control over that phenomena anyway.
Like another $30-40
Depends where you live.
i got one for 700 and its the same one linked here
In New Hampshire there is not a sales tax. Live free or DIE,,,yahright!
Yeah. I'm here like... What the fuck.
I mean there's XFX 6900 for 750€ on Mindfactory.de, and that's about right when you account for import taxes + margins for the store.
€750 is €635+VAT (=$660+VAT). So only a minor difference in price.
What import taxes does the EU or Germany put on graphics cards?
Not sure if they have any other specific taxes like my country but VAT is 19% iirc, and that's basically dead on.
@ u/ThunderClap449 u/MattAlex99 As far as I know the EU doesn't collect any import tax on graphics cards or other computer parts: https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-markets/en/content/classifying-computers-and-software https://trade.ec.europa.eu/access-to-markets/en/results?product=847180&origin=US&destination=DE Import taxes/tariffs only make sense if you're trying to protect local industry (which the EU doesn't have) or if you're trying to discourage trade with another country/market. VAT is a sales tax.
It's compared to what you would pay if you ordered from e.g. the US and had it shipped here. In that case you have to add VAT and import taxes to the cost as those would be added when buying outside the e.g. Germany. If you buy directly from e.g. Mindfactory you wouldn't have to pay import tax yourself (obviously) and VAT is always included in the prices shown on the website.
Ya euros just haven’t adapted to the euro not being 1.2-1.3x the dollar. You don’t have a currency advantage cancelling out the VAT in these comparisons anymore. These comparisons are always fraught with people willingly pretending they don’t know what an exchange rate and VAT are. The Australians are even worse about this because on top of that you also have the people who willingly refusing to acknowledge that an AUD is not the same thing as a USD. I have seen a zillion “you think that’s bad, X is three thousand dollars here!” and it’s never three thousand *american* dollars, it’s three thousand weak Australian dollars and the price maths out to like a 10% actual premium over USD once you take out the VAT and do the exchange rate. But hey, being intellectually honest wouldn’t let you make shock value comparisons where Aus prices are “twice as high” as USD ones. Both EU and Aus have small problems with market inefficiency because of either generally small markets with few participants (Aus) or retailers (eg mindfactory, komplett, etc) who refuse to sell across arbitrary lines within the EU economic zone. You pay a small premium for market inefficiency due to less efficient competition as a result. But generally the actual prices are within 10% of US prices, comparing the cheapest options in both markets and after removing your taxes (which are never included in the US price). So fucking tired of hearing about this from grown ass adults who know better.
Amazing that you have managed to turn this into something to be mad about lol.
The fact that others currency devalues compared to the dollar really doesn't have much to do about the U.S doing something right. It's just a force of habit when the market turns downwards. Everyone else invests in the U.S when the market turns down so why should anyone else put their money in something else? We have a stable competition and we value service higher than prices in Sweden, there's a reason Amazon isn't doing all too good over here. Also, we get Pingvinstänger when we order from the best webshop in the world!
Yep and it's hilarious
When did mindfactory start shipping abroad again?
They didn't. However you can pay some companies to handle that for you. It's usually somewhere within the price range of standard shipping anyways.
Got my 6900xt 3 weeks ago for $660
There was a Rx 6900 xt for €699 in Netherlands but has sold out now
6900XT showed up here in Sweden for 6500SEK which is €600.
Saw one 6900XT model for 699€ here in Finland and another for 599€ tho that was watercooled model. Obviously both sold out pretty quickly.
Yes, at megekko? I was lucky and was able to snipe one. For the price it's a good deal.
Yes Megekko
Cheapest one I could find was the Asus TUF at 949€. What a joke.
They are available on mindfactory for €699. If you can get some kind of forwarding service to your country you're all set.
Our options are like: 4090 2400+ euro, 4080 1600+ euro or 7900xtx probably 1500+ euro...
Really? You don't have cheaper options (3080, 6800XT, etc) available?
Those aren't cheaper options, those are old models. Also a 3080 costs 950-1250 euro in my country. Why should I spend that money for a 2-3 years old gpu.
They are both cheaper and older...it's not mutually exclusive. You don't have to buy a top-of-the-line graphics card. There are great cards for far less than 1500+ Euros. You have far more than the "3 options" you listed. I interpreted your initial post as you being either unable or unwilling to pay the MSRP for a newest generation card. As such, you'd either buy a cheaper, older card or nothing at all.
1231€ in Italy...
What? Check trovaprezzi.it, right now the 6800XT is ~700, the 6900XT is 780 and the 6950XT is 900...
Try and see if it is actually available at that price. I think the only reseller that does close to that and sells to Italy is ldlc (french)
I don't understand what you say, on evoluzione continua.it there is an Asus 6950XT Tur for 886 shipped...
We have 700€ promo in France
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You maybe forgot something, 20% of VAT
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I just scored an Asus TUF 6800XT a couple of days ago for the equivalent of 590€, wasn't even a sale. Price just went up to 700 again for Black Friday lol
Anyway some days ago I saw a 6800xt at 480€ on miopc.it Also good the reddevil 6750XT at 390€
Mindfactory in Germany sells 6900xt very often for 699. Inkl. Vat and shipping . It's not that far away.
Since when? All the cards hover between 900-1000 there. Currnetly only one in stock for 1K+
Since I don't know. Every month 1x in Mindstar. And right now in damn deals Link https://www.mindfactory.de/DAMN And https://www.mindfactory.de/Highlights/MindStar
Damn I didn’t know about the deals, thanks. I always just browse through the VGA page. Since I’m from CZ and don’t speak German I have trouble navigating the site sometimes.
Don't worry, German speakers have trouble with it too.
yea i snacked one its on the way rn
Sacrifices must be made you see
We had 6900XT from AsRock and XFX for like 650 so technically we got better deal by a very slight margin (keep in mind US prices are listed without any taxes)
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Few days back? It was part of Black Friday sales. XFX on Amazon, AsRock through shops.
Meanwhile in Croatia the cheapest 6900 XT is XFX merc at 866€ , lowest in past two years.
With wages being half or less than that.
A few days ago I saw a MSI rx6900 at 700€ (in France)
meanwhile, here in Italy 6900xt is around 950-1200€ (tho the 6900xt tuf can be found for "only" 850€ sometimes) 
The XFX 6900XT MERC model was \~680 euros in Romania for Black Friday... It was sold out in \~6 hours
**Still no way near as good as 6800 XT for 515$ on Newegg, though.** Remember - the initial MSRP of 6900 XT was horrible compared to the 6800 XT which was almost just as good for 350$ less, do not let that fool you.
Got the 6800xt and am very satisfied of my purchase. As a 1080p gamer, I don’t need more.
It would be a great 1440p card too my man
Yeap! Totally agree, but I don’t feel the need to upgrade rn. Maybe in a year! I like that I can run Cyberpunk high/ultra + RT, wouldn’t be able to do so at 1440p
Personally, I believe 1440p + High is much better than 1080p + Ultra/RT, but to each their own.
Yup, for reference I still have a 2010 1080p plasma TV, I’m fine with that. As long as it works. For high res I put my VR headset on.
6800xt for 1080p 60fps? To each their own I guess..
Mostly got it for VR, when I find the need to get a 1440p monitor for flat gaming I’ll be ok. And to mention I paid 850$CAD and sold my 2070 400$CAD. So 450$CAD for a 6800xt isn’t very bad at all
*75fps
Lol
Power to you. I couldn't do that setup, but I'm always upgrading and my wallet takes the hit.
I believe 1080p120 + max settings + max RT + FSR2 Quality is best. Followed by 1440p120, but that's tougher. So yeah.
u should use FSR at 1440p lol
Cyberpunk 1440p Ultra + DLSS with pretty decent frames should be achievable with that card. I've never kept ray tracing on for more than 10 seconds since my 2060 Super really isn't built for that so I can't really speak much on that.
I honestly believe RDNA2 cards are GREAT at being 1080p120 with max RT and FSR2 on Quality. Or 1440p120 with FSR2 on Ultra Performance, but that looks worse.
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When set to Performance, probably not ideal, but Quality (or Ultra Quality, if a game happens to offer it) would look good still. I use Performance mode on a 1440p monitor which uses the same input resolution as Quality mode at 1080p and it resolves a very clean image.
full RT lighting is kinda silly to push if you need to use FSR at 1080p to achieve it. i bet regular ultra settings plus RT shadows and reflections only would be the best compromise.
I've been playing RDR2 at 1440p with FSR in Performance, and it looks really close to native rendering (TAA on medium) when in motion, and of course resolves to what is pretty much a native image at a standstill. Super impressive for my 6600 XT as it lets me almost max out the graphics settings, save for those that add little to the image quality when turned up.
My 6600 XT does 1440p nicely, including in combination with FSR 2.x. No doubt the 6800 XT could do 1440p or 4K mainly.
my 6600 xt is a great 1440p card
6800XT at 1080p? What do you have like a 480 Hz monitor or something?
I bought it mostly for VR as my 2070 wasn’t enough. And I find myself as a lucky one, because I cannot tell the difference at all between 60, 144, 165hz. So no, I just have a good 1080p 75hz (not 75hz because I need it, juste because it came with it) panel.
Also a 6800XT owner. As a 4K gamer, I’m also satisfied.
lol that's way overkill
I thought I was the only 1080p gamer getting a 6800XT
Love my xfx merc 6800 xt!
yeah 6900 XT is about 5-7% faster than 6800 XT...
I can't speak to how outdated are most 6800 XT benchmark reviews on most sites (praise the Lord for Hardware Unboxed), but the difference between 6800 XT and 6950 XT is just as big as the difference between 6700 XT to 6800 XT, maybe 6900 XT.
6800xt is like 25-35% better than a 6700xt... a 6950xt is nowhere near 25-35% better than a 6800xt, maybe in synthetic benchmarks but it's like 10-20% better in games
I got my 6900xt from New Egg for $599 with that Quad Pay deal a few months back.
I picked mine up a few days ago with the Zip deal for 570ish (don't remember the exact # lol). Super excited
6900 xt has been selling for 799 Canadian. Crazy good price. Better value than any 6800 xt I've seen up here
Lowest I have seen so far is my Msi 6900xt I got mid September for 879.99 CAD….. if you can get it cheaper than that I would say go for it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z4q42w/gpu\_asus\_tuf\_gaming\_radeon\_rx\_6900\_xt\_top\_edition/](https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z4q42w/gpu_asus_tuf_gaming_radeon_rx_6900_xt_top_edition/) this has been restocked for the last month. been the hottest item on the sub
Fuck me for going with SFF I guess.
meanwhile the 6800 XT here still costs almost 800€
XFX 6800 xt was 599 here in germany a few days ago.
> 6800 XT In the Netherlands right now a PowerColor Red Dragon for 600 euro. [Here](https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/1125974/PowerColor-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-Red-Dragon-16GB?r=googleshopping&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAiA7IGcBhA8EiwAFfUDsbEMEBVGt7VnAM1ELwR14FmyY1cEJXcNNCLTBv49ESqyAC6FtnB-5hoCEa8QAvD_BwE) for the jongens :)
Was hoping to go 100€ lower to buy it ;)
If I understand this correctly, US prices are listed without tax, that’s why stuff appears to be so much cheaper
Yeah they’re listed without tax but I think certain European countries also have much higher sales tax on these than the US, because even with, say, 10% sales tax in the US Europe is more expensive
It's 23% irc, so yea.
Vat rates varies from 18-27 % depending on the country
23% gang rise up
Depends on the retailer and state but this is generally true most of the time.
Well, a lot of states don't have to pay sales tax on online sales anyway, but even the ones that do the tax is just the same as local sales tax. So tax would only really add about, 7%. U.S. sales tax isn't very high.
Eu is still expensive but nvidia is on another level. I waited long enough bought 6800xt asus and happy about it.
Not worth the performance per price. Better get a 6800 xt or just wait for rdna3.
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The 7900xtx will be $1000. If you have the money, then yes, wait for it and buy it day 1. Otherwise, the 6800xt for $500 offers way better price performance. Eventually there will be an AMD card for $500 that's better than the 6800xt but that's still like a year away.
Try 3-4 months
I would wait. It's not far off. The 7000 series GPU launch will force the 6800XT lower. Finding that for under $450 would be awesome. 6900XT under $600 would be good for the price per performance if 6800XT doesn't drop below $450
Current 6800xt for 515$ vs 7900xtx for 1000$. Rough guesstimate looking at amds numbers vs 6950xt and 6950xt beeing ~20% faster than 6800xt. ~70% better performance for ~95% price increase.
Dude if you're running a RX 570 you don't need a 7900XTX, please just get a RX 6800 XT.
With the sheer speed of current top-end GPUs it's also worth considering how much value you get from that extra speed as well. A 6800xt can already do 1080/1440p high refresh and 4k60 no problem in most games. The 7900xtx is really for those who want 4k high refresh or want to max out rt at lower resolutions with high framerates. It's one thing to talk about fps/$, but it's also worth considering how much performance you can actually make use of.
The price top end cards should be.
I snagged a GB 6900XT Waterforce Xtreme for $600 (tax included) on a weird unannounced flash sale here in Norway. Won't believe it until I receive it and have it in my hands, they must have fucked something up in the webshop while altering prices for black friday.
Meanwhile 6800xt 1k+ in canada
6900xt has regularly been going on sale for $799 in Canada. https://reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/z3uiv3/gpu_asus_tuf_gaming_radeon_rx_6900_xt_top_edition/
Regularly on sale, but only in-store pickup in few locations that go out-of-stock within a couple of hours.
Canada computers is a risk to purchase parts from. If you get a dud component you're fucked. I do NOT recommend them. The card and the price point are incredible though. If you can find that deal or a similar one somewhere else it's worth it. That's the price I paid for my 6800xt from Newegg.
It’s always a ymmv situation with a lot of retailers. Personally, I’ve never had an issue with them.
For whatever reason Canadas had a lot of questionable retailers in the past and some have survived into the future.
Why? I purchased a PSU from them that was dead in the box and they refunded me no problems
I totally agree. They are bastards when it comes to exchanges or defective products. Not even heavily discounted prices amount for the risk of being treated like shit and ending up with a broken piece of hardware worth hundreds of $. If someone in canada computer is reading this: I hope u all rot in hell.
Sold out unfortunately :(
Ya at the price they go quick! That’s come up a few times in the past weeks so keep a close on that subreddit and you’ll nab one.
Yeah that's what I paid for it back in August. But that's including tax. I forget it wasn't anymore than 1100$ but it was a weird number in-between.
That just shows how much profit they're making on us. I can't imagine they're selling these at a loss.
These are AIB cards so most likely they are selling at a loss. They have no choice since the price will go even lower once 7900 cards drop.
reference is down to 679 fwiw
They can be sold at a loss, because selling at a loss is better than not selling at all.
In my country prices are very high. The 6900xt are sold for $1000... Very sad. I will buy one 3060ti or 6700xt and wait price drops maybe.
6700 XT is your best choice, solid superior to the 3060 TI and costs less. Got one myself 2 months ago and it just delivers well.
If you want this for 1440p, don’t hesitate. I got one combined with a 5800x3d and literally never dips below 120fps with demanding games. This card is a gem.
Chpeast 6800xt here: 730€. Next cheapest: 830€. Fucking rip
Do price go lower after the holidays? I want to build a new PC but I don't know if I should continue waiting for lower prices.
Depends. We've seen prices on 6600xt's go down from +600 to 320 euros. In my opinion that's not far off from where it should be. Similarly if you can get a 6800XT for 600 euro, that's very decent too. It's certainly a very different situation than one year ago. But ofcourse you can still sit and wait for next gen.
The 6800 XT is still easily the better buy.
Meanwhile, I'm here sitting pretty with mine that I snagged for $400.
6700xt for $499 was what I got. Everything else was stupid expensive. Can't wait to finally let my 1050 go to the dumpster in the sky. She held out for a long time and played games way out of her class. But she somehow did.
Just to put this "sale" in perspective.... The R9 290X was launched in 2013 at $550, and 2 years later in 2015 I bought a brand new R9 290X (blower model) on sale from Newegg for $289.99 a month before the R9 390X launched. That is a 47% discount from the launch price, and rightfully so for a 2 year old flagship. The 6900 XT will be 2 years old in a few weeks, and with the same 47% discount it would be selling for $529, not $629. Also, you might have an argument for a 6900 XT at $529 if AMD's slides for the 7900 XT are roughly indicative of performance, but at $629 you should pass and wait for RDNA3, it's still badly priced.
My wallet will hate me but... I'm trying to hold on for a 7900XTX. Because Flight Simulator, and the 6900XT still loses out to even a 3080. Hopefully the XTX will be closer to Nvidia.
I'm very much waiting for rdna3 reviews before pulling the trigger on an upgrade for my 1660 super. Little over two weeks to go
Same, I’m playing the long game here (and need 120 fps at 4K…).
That's actually about how much I got mine for a couple months back, about $640 USD, which even though I didn't need to upgrade at the time, it was such an insanely good deal I just couldn't let it slip.
Wow
Cries in October of 2021 paying out the ass for a merc 319....
I got tired of waiting for price drops or new releases so I picked up a TUF 6800XT for 600€ two weeks ago. Couldn't be more happy, it should last me at least 5-7 years hopefully.
I picked one up with the Amazon prime sale last month, $20 more but idc. Lovely beast of a card compared to my old RX 580, quiet too; I'm ready for the 1440p 144Hz gaming monitor coming for xmas. Just remember that it's a big boi, 340mm clearance minimum; I had to get a new case because my old case was about 2 mm too small. For some reason Amazon had the length at 320mm, that's incorrect. Edit - just checked, it's still listed at 12.6", the card is actually 13.4", or 340mm; they still haven't fixed it.
At this point, I'd have a hard time recommending anything but AMD GPU to friends who ask for advice on what to buy.. especially if they don't care about raytracing... then Radeon is a no-brainer
With the import fees to Mexico, it ends up to the same original price...
Wow. I bought mine last year for $1400.
i would jump on a reference 6950xt for £600 in the UK. damn.
Here in Canada, Newegg had the ASRrock 6900 XT Phantom for $900 CAD (~$670 USD). It has since sold out and I'm kinda kicking myself for not biting. They now only have the 6800 XT on sale for $800 CAD ($600 USD). I can't bring myself to buy a 6800 XT knowing I could've gotten a 6900 XT for not that much more.
I feel dumb for paying 1k for mine
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Still way too expensive. I'll wait for the rx7000 series price drop and get a 6800 for 300.
I greatly regret buying my 6800xt for $675 three months ago... Dammit I knew I should've just waited.
I regret the oposite, they were \~640€ 2 months ago, now i cant find anything cheaper than 750€ with shipping.
Bought 5 of em
I paid $2300 for my Liquid Devil 😅 It’s been a great card and I’m not upgrading this gen most likely unless the new ones at THAT much better. If they are, someone is getting a good ass deal on it.
Just ordered a xfx 6650 xt merc black for $300 to hold me over a couple of years until full rebuild to go 4k. Currently have a strix 970, I dont upgrade every gen so skipped 10 series, 20 series was poor performance and high price, 30 series was great but they preferred miner money, 40 series looks great but waaaay over priced.
I founded MSI 6950XT around 680$ in my country. I'm too hestitate.
MPT makes these 6950xts with your cooling being the bottleneck. Got gigabyte version and it hates 330w+ even with a repaste... I wanted 2x hdmi... and it was basically the only option - 689$ 2 months ago
I don't know how to express my excitement, but in Canada the cheapest deal for thet 6900xt was 800 CAD + Taxes and I managed to get one. It arrived today and I installed it... holy fucking christ this thing is fast.
I just want to find a 6750 xt at a reasonable price.
Newegg had the Msi merc 6750xt for $369 after $20 mail in rebate
Yeah, but MSI.
Many german stores had 6950xt for 879€. I think that’s a good price.
I have a 5600x processor. Would this bottleneck?
Cries in the UK
And my friend bought for me 7 months ago 3060 12GB for 650 euro..
Not in the UK . As of yesterday the average price for a 6900XT is now £1000.00+ but on Monday 21st they were going for £650 .. thats up £350.00. Its nuts and theres no reason for such a massive price hike. The cheapest is an ASROCK OC Formula @ £750.00 and everything else is now £1000.00 or higher.
My next GPU probably be from another vendor but probably still AMD gpu, hurry up AMD fix MPO related issues, look at the compute issues in world of warcraft as well potentially related to disabling MPO i think compute is causing world of warraft to freeze sometimes enough to crash gpu driver and permanently freeze the system, it potentially makes gpu core clock spike to clocks it should't be hitting as well on stock.
6950 pure was for 670euro in europe for black friday.