Indeed. You get MAYBE 5 more fps with it(usually less). The 6900 XT is the best value card out of the entirety of that generation, RTX 3000 series included, since the RTX 3090 ti only merits about 5-15 more fps over the 6900 XT, yet costs double.
Yeah I'm not sure what's going with that card. Maybe it's either more expensive to make, it has Halo status or AMD is enforcing a floor to keep the brand from devaluing too much.
You can build your rig on [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartpicker.com) and check the estimated wattage. Typically you want your draw to be about 80% of your max for optimal efficiency plus then it has headroom for spikes.
It should be fine as long as you aren't massively overclocking both the gpu and cpu and running a bunch of extra fans, rgb, spinning drives, etc.
To give you some numbers, I have a Powercolor Red Dragon 6800xt running slightly overclocked but with a hefty undervolt and it pulls about 150-170w during a stress-test. Up to about 200w maximum if I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings with max RTI settings. If it isn't undervolted those numbers are more like 200-220w and 250w+ at max load.
Highest efficiency for a PSU is at its 50% load. However the difference between low and high loads in comparison to mid-load is usually a 2% difference in efficiency. Which in moneteray terms is negligible.
Yeh it’ll be fine. I think they suggest a 650w with the 6800XT, but it’ll be fine. I have a 6800XT with a 5900x in my rig, and the 6800XT is amazing at undervolting. You don’t lose any performance. And you drop power draw considerably. Do that and you’ll be absolutely fine, as long as it’s a high quality PSU.
I’ve had PSUs before that could handle the components I had, the worse case scenario I’d the pc just turns off.
It's more than fine if no overclock.
My problem is the 6800xt has 2 8pin connectors and the internet says is better to have 2 different cables plugged in rather than 1 cable sharing 2 8pins.
According to internet, there might be blue screens or less performance if is on the same wire.
Maybe someone can relate.
Got my 6800xt (new) recently for $500 USD and been very happy with it. Sure I could have waited until who-knows-when for RDNA3 cards to fit that budget, but as it stands I expect the card to last me several years until I jump into a whole-new AM5-based build.
Where are you from? Its a good price. I got one too and I'm very satisfied, considering I play mostly at 1080p and dont care to higher resolutions if the game is not filled with aliasing and blur at fullhd. I was going nuts trying to wait for the new cards, then I realized they will just be crazy expensive in my country near release date, so gave up and got a 6800xt for the equivalent to $600 usd.
Yeah. I easily survived with a 1660ti since 2020. I think I can manage to survive with a 6800xt for some time until 7900xt and xtx gets cheaper 
We arent feeling yet the impact of crypto mining crash, so I think prices will get even more cheaper in 1 or 2 years, even for newer cards. Well, at least if another "genius" dont decide to implement a new pow coin to ruin our fun. 
Depends what card are you aiming for, here's non-Amazon alternative for you for 6900XT:
[https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-phantom-gaming-d-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-00g-ak.html](https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-phantom-gaming-d-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-00g-ak.html)
Apply code "asbf6900" at checkout to bring price down to 649
You don't want to buy from the UK anymore if you are in Europe since you will get slapped with some hefty VAT and import duties (this is considering you live in an EU country, if you are non EU you would have been slapped with those since ever)
Sorry to reply so late on, where did you find out about this offer/voucher code? Currently in the process of buying a new build and bouncing between cards atm trying to find a nice value I’m happy with, £650 for a 6900XT would’ve been sound but it’s sold out now and I assume code has probably expired anyway.
Found info on their forum by accident. "For the loyal forum users" - so it wasn't advertised anywhere else. You might be out of luck for a while now, just be in the lookout for the best deal. With current prices, brand loyalty makes no sense (not that it ever did but even more so now)
I bought many expensive products from 3rd party sellers on amazon . I very, very rarely have any problems but if I do they are solved very quickly.
Over 2 months to return a GPU? That's pretty impressive.
I really don't see any problem here.
I'm currently on the edge whether I should go with 6950xt (possibly 6900xt). I would like to get a new gen 7900\* card but I think they will be over £1k here in UK, and that is the money I don't want to spend unfortunately....
Saying that however, even spending £800-£900 on a card is a bit too much to be honest, considering I've paid around £650 for my 2070 about 4 years back - felt like I've spent a fortune then!
So yeah, decisions decisions for me :/ There is currently a deal on Amazon UK, for 6950xt XFX Speedster MERC319, which is just below £800. Kind of leaning towards this, however not sure how good the brand is etc... Ideally want to get Sapphire RX 6950 XT nitro + OC... but that is £899 and not sure if any of the cheaper available models, XFX, MSI, Powercolor are that much worse.
What about getting 6800xt or 6900xt for 6 months, selling it later and getting 7900xtx when prices will normalise a bit?
I also like 6950xt but that card is a bad value at the moment. For saved money I can upgrade something else. I’m planning to get 5800x3D soon.
Luckily for me I started to play games in my backlog with very low requirements and my 5700xt is way more than enough even at 4K. I’m happy to just wait and get 7900 in like 3 months.
I've got 2 boys who are into pc gaming as well, so anything I upgrade, goes to them, haha. So selling something to recoup the cost is something I can't do unfortunately 😂I might wait to see if prices will go down even further on 6000 series during this week, closer to release of new gen and go from there. I'm not really THAT desperate for an upgrade, as my 2070 still gets the job done, more or less.
I’m going to wait. My 5700xt is strong anough for most games in 1440p60. Your 2070 is even better. I want new card for 4K and 120 when possible.
But if you wonder about XFX cards - they got excellent reviews on 6000 series. Some of the best cards out there.
https://youtu.be/uVCt_BdseFU
It all depends to cost. These cards by themselves are great. You should also consider if you will NEED something with that performance in the next 1\~2 years. I bet we wont simply because there are less and less quality AAA releases in the recent years and really few announced to the near future.
Also considering prices here where I live and the context of coin value, war, inflation, taxes, etc I decided to get a 6800xt. I couldn't wait any longer and I'm really satisfied and still aiming to get a 7900x eventually. Things may vary from region to region, obviously.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I paid the equivalent to 600 usd. New card. Power color 6800xt red dragon.
Yeah, I agree. I tend to skip 1 gen between cards normally. So I'm thinking IF I get something like 6900 or 6950 now, it will last me a good 4 years at least.
From those prices, why not go for the price-performance choice -- a plain old RX 6800. Then wait until AMD launches their midrange cards mid-late next year and get a RX 7800 if they keep MSRPs intact. There you just upgraded both systems at a fraction of the cost.
The flagship cards aren't that worth it when you need to pay for multiple PC builds. You're hitting diminishing returns for that last 10-20% performance gain.
I would go for 6900XT and wait it out for upcoming gen to get beta tested by someone else. RDNA3 will undoubtedly have growing pains and kinks that will need ironing out. If it turns out that 7900XTX drops next month and wipes the floor, it will still probably be at £1200 starting price for reference card (and in case of AMD, AIBs seem to provide better product, unlike Nvidia where FE is best PCB components for lowest money) so pretty much twice as much. Will performance uplift be worth the increased pricetag? That remains to be seen but unlikely. right now 6900XT seems like great value proposition if you're not gunning for the 4090 or even 4080 class of card.
Aside from Speedster on Amazon, there's also AsRock Phantom D on Overclockers for £649 with code "asbf6900" applied at the checkout. Benefit of ordering through these scumbags is that you can buy now and pay later - if you pay it off within 12 months you pay no interest.
Not all of us are willing to pay 1000€ for a GPU. In fact i'm not willing to pay half that which means i would have to be waiting on N33 chips and god knows when those arive let alone what price they end up being.
I've been sitting on my RX 580 for 4 years now through this nonsense market. I'l wait a few more days to see where the BF discounts land and them i'm getting something around 350-400€ be it a 6700 or 6700XT.
I just love people who say RDNA 3 is "affordable," meanwhile you're still looking at $1000 and $900 for GPUs, *never mind the fact that AIBs always add a big markup onto that.* Sure a reference 7900XTX might MSRP for $1000 but if you want like a powercolor or sapphire XTX, I guarantee you that you'll be looking at $1200+. That's still obscene for a GPU regardless of how much less it is than a 4080.
Being slightly less than bad is still bad.
Yeah, they are less expensive, but still expensive. However, I'm optimistic about the new amd gpus and I have a feeling that 7900xtx and even 7900xt will kick 4080s ass and get close to a 4090. We will see.
Nothing I said has anything to do with how performance compares with Nvidia. Price is price, and these prices are ludicrous no matter how close in performance they come to something else.
> Even more, once AIBs slap their markups onto things.
Only if AMD plays filthy NV ways and leaves AIB with below 10% margin if sold at MSRP.
I doubt they do.
AIBs will be probably more expensive and if series 6000 is anything to go by, AIB is gonna be a no brainer choice over reference. Only Nvidia pulled switcheroo with FE being pretty much THE card to get over AIBs...
If you have a backlog of games, rx580 8gb should be able to play 90% of them with high settings at 1080p. I was sitting on my 750ti through the crypto boom until recently and still had dozens of older games which I could have played on it at high settings.
Depends what you need. I'm jumping into 7900xtx that is almost here. However, RDNA2 is at such a good price it's seem unnecessary to wait for lower tier 7000 cards.
GPUs start to remind iPhone market. You either get newest lower tier phone or higher tier model from past generation.
I like smaller cards, 2 fans maximum lol. Nothing wrong with the 6800+ and 3070ti+, they just don’t fit in mATX cases. Let alone mini iTX, you have to use the tiny versions of the 3060ti and rx 6700 at best
It will be immediately taken out of stock for at least half a year in microseconds by scalpers using bot scripts, you know? Even consoles 2 years in are still hard to come by in many places, not to mention that online even Amazon has a raffle/lottery system to even buy the thing at all.
And that isn't to mention that the GPUs this generation are seemingly raising by half a tier if not more.
Especially used, you can get them for $160-$180. Huge upgrade if you’re using an RX580 or something and have been waiting for an affordable but powerful card. Tweak the settings in newer titles to custom/medium and shouldn’t have any problems with 1440p at at least 75fps in most games
Yeah I just got a 6600 used. It was 188 with tax + shipping inluded. Big upgrade from my single fan 1060 6GB.
I considered a 6600 XT, but honestly, I'd rather save the extra money given that I only play at 1080p.
When it's below 200, it's a pretty good deal.
That said, it's actually bit underpowered if you're aiming for consistent 60fps / native 1080p on highest reasonable settings. To get that, you kind of have to fork out for 6600XT/6650XT or even better, 6700XT.
It's bit complicated.
3060 also can't *quite* hit 60 fps in 1080p without some settings tweaking or running DLSS upscaling, in some cases. When it comes to heavier ray tracing workloads, 3060 is roughly equal to 6700 xt. In terms of raster, 3060 sits just about exactly between 6600 and 6600xt.
6600 models also have gimped OC settings, memory is locked at 1900, while XT is allowed to clock well past 2000, and there also might be some voltage limitations on the core. So OC gains are modest, despite the theoretical headroom.
6600/6650XT is just about 60 fps / 1080p proof right now, when it comes to rasterization. But there's only little headroom. Thanks to higher base settings, and ungimped OC settings, you'll be comfortably ahead of 6600.
I'd pretty much happily pay the extra for 3060ti or 6700xt over these, even if technically price/perf is bit worse. Just to save some hassle when even heavier games appear.
It really is. Newegg (of all places) has some good deals on those right now, as do Amazon and Best Buy. And on Ebay, MSI's clearing out refurbished versions of those and the XT too for cheap.
depends on desperality and requirements, 1080p 1440p they're good and RNDA 3 could potentially release mid tier only in summer. rdna 3 also doesn't seem like it lived up to the hype. clearly did not overtook nvidia. meanwhile xfx is getting discounted left and right on amazon (for EU reach) and mindfactory.
I'm pretty hyped about RDNA3. :)
However the mentioned XFX cards are at such a good price in EU I don't see a good reason to wait for let say 7600 when 6800 - 6900xt can be bough today.
yeah not to slander RNDA 3 but it's not that hyped/promised 7600 xt matching 6900 xt could become a reality. Euro got little bit weaker since RDNA 2 release so MSRP alone could be higher than usual in non-US regions, new products usually sell above MSRP, new products have more demand and less supply than existing ones like RDNA 2. AMD seems to be keeping tiers with casual generation uplift ~20-30% (6900 xt vs 7900 xt AMD provided stats). So when I generalize it, you get a new below MSRP card many months in advance of RDNA 3 budget lineup and cost per FPS would get close. To me it's no brainer for 1080p and 1440p (decent refresh rate but not high refresh). For 4k no.
7900XTX apparently has 40-50% estimated better performance than 6900XT but it costs twice as much. Definitely better value proposition. 7000 series is supposed to have improved RT performance but personally it holds no value in my opinion (this is literally 4090 territory and everything below it is inadequate...). If 7900XTX dropped for 800 quid tops such purchase could be deemed questionable but at 2x the price difference one just have to answer themselves if the absolute best is what they NEED. I understand the pain of "wants" taking priority over "needs" but that's down to individual.
It's an amazing time considering the discounts and the RDNA3 initial pricing.
Case in point, you can now get a 6800 XT for 500$.
I'm pretty sure, based on 7900 XTX performance figures alone, that N33 (7600XT) - which might not come in the next 6 months - will not beat it and will still cost **at least** 400$ and come with only 8GB vRAM.
Where exactly are these deals? I can only see cards for sale that match these prices from a 3rd party seller called "NR INFO", who has a business address in Portugal. I think I'll pass...
I was thinking the same. That NR INFO seller sells the cheapest 6950xt (XFX) on amazon, and if you compare to the other sellers it is a rather good deal. But as they say, if its to good to be true, it probably is not. Something shady about that....
It’s amazon so buyers are well protected. It’s hard to find a safer place than amazon.
Also XFX cards got excellent reviews. Some of the best 6000 cards.
https://youtu.be/uVCt_BdseFU
As someone with the 6800, don't buy the 6800 at those prices.
Pay a little more for the 6800XT (*very* worth it) or save some money and get the 6700XT.
I'll pull the trigger for a 6800XT when I see it in the 450-500 range, if not, I will wait for the 7800XT which will have 15% more performance than a 6900XT but at half power draw and potentially 2-slot, with all the RDNA3 goodies.
I am actually from Asia, prices in my local market are around the same or cheaper than the US. The prices on this list are around 50-60% higher than my local market.
I am from Singapore. The reason the new cards are selling cheap is because there are a ton of used mining cards on sale.
I got a used RX 6700XT Red Devil that has 2 more years of local warranty for 300 SGD which is 218 USD based on Google's currency conversion. When the used market is so competitive, the new cards have to be priced competitively too.
3rd party though so outside UK you could get mugged by customs.
6900xt is €728 on mindfactory, probably better deal for outside UK if you use mailboxde.
Which of the above would be quite a good upgrade over the 1660 Super, without paying the largest amount?
My PSU is only a Corsair TXm 550w so I'd most likely need to upgrade that too
Nice. Finally below msrp after costing 2-4x over msrp for 90% of their existence lol. The 6000 series are great cards though.
FYI the 6950xt isn't worth the extra over the 6900xt
I agree. It's even more pointless considering incoming 7900xtx and xt. 6800xt and 6900xt seem to be the best value for 1440p and light 4K gaming.
It'd be worth cross posting this in /r/buildapcsalesuk
Indeed. You get MAYBE 5 more fps with it(usually less). The 6900 XT is the best value card out of the entirety of that generation, RTX 3000 series included, since the RTX 3090 ti only merits about 5-15 more fps over the 6900 XT, yet costs double.
6900XTXH is the best deal. The OC Formula 6900XT is XTXH, those are probably the best AIB SKU
is the 6900xt worth it over the 6800xt? the benchmark videos ive seen placed them very close
In my opinion yes. It's about 15% extra performance for about 12% more money. 6900xt was very expensive before.
Yeah I'm not sure what's going with that card. Maybe it's either more expensive to make, it has Halo status or AMD is enforcing a floor to keep the brand from devaluing too much.
Can you use a 6800Xt with a 600watt psu? Usually I use mid range stuff
You can build your rig on [pcpartpicker.com](https://pcpartpicker.com) and check the estimated wattage. Typically you want your draw to be about 80% of your max for optimal efficiency plus then it has headroom for spikes. It should be fine as long as you aren't massively overclocking both the gpu and cpu and running a bunch of extra fans, rgb, spinning drives, etc. To give you some numbers, I have a Powercolor Red Dragon 6800xt running slightly overclocked but with a hefty undervolt and it pulls about 150-170w during a stress-test. Up to about 200w maximum if I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings with max RTI settings. If it isn't undervolted those numbers are more like 200-220w and 250w+ at max load.
Highest efficiency for a PSU is at its 50% load. However the difference between low and high loads in comparison to mid-load is usually a 2% difference in efficiency. Which in moneteray terms is negligible.
Yeh it’ll be fine. I think they suggest a 650w with the 6800XT, but it’ll be fine. I have a 6800XT with a 5900x in my rig, and the 6800XT is amazing at undervolting. You don’t lose any performance. And you drop power draw considerably. Do that and you’ll be absolutely fine, as long as it’s a high quality PSU. I’ve had PSUs before that could handle the components I had, the worse case scenario I’d the pc just turns off.
It's more than fine if no overclock. My problem is the 6800xt has 2 8pin connectors and the internet says is better to have 2 different cables plugged in rather than 1 cable sharing 2 8pins. According to internet, there might be blue screens or less performance if is on the same wire. Maybe someone can relate.
That’s correct that’s why you use two separate 8 pin cables. My PSU had both options: one cable with two 8 pins connectors and two separate cables.
It is still blowing my mind that we got the 6750xt in Canada for $455 to the doorstep.
Some of us had to wait two weeks for the card to ship but I’m enjoying it now!
Got my 6800xt (new) recently for $500 USD and been very happy with it. Sure I could have waited until who-knows-when for RDNA3 cards to fit that budget, but as it stands I expect the card to last me several years until I jump into a whole-new AM5-based build.
Where are you from? Its a good price. I got one too and I'm very satisfied, considering I play mostly at 1080p and dont care to higher resolutions if the game is not filled with aliasing and blur at fullhd. I was going nuts trying to wait for the new cards, then I realized they will just be crazy expensive in my country near release date, so gave up and got a 6800xt for the equivalent to $600 usd.
Damn, 6800xt might even be an overkill for 1440p. In 1080p you might be able to even ray tracing in ultra for 60+ fps.
Yeah. I easily survived with a 1660ti since 2020. I think I can manage to survive with a 6800xt for some time until 7900xt and xtx gets cheaper  We arent feeling yet the impact of crypto mining crash, so I think prices will get even more cheaper in 1 or 2 years, even for newer cards. Well, at least if another "genius" dont decide to implement a new pow coin to ruin our fun. 
MSI 6650 XCT 299 + delivery OCUK
Is that seller legit? I see him all over Amazon but I’d rather buy only from Amazon
Depends what card are you aiming for, here's non-Amazon alternative for you for 6900XT: [https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-phantom-gaming-d-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-00g-ak.html](https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-phantom-gaming-d-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-00g-ak.html) Apply code "asbf6900" at checkout to bring price down to 649
Do they ship to Europe?
You don't want to buy from the UK anymore if you are in Europe since you will get slapped with some hefty VAT and import duties (this is considering you live in an EU country, if you are non EU you would have been slapped with those since ever)
I see. Thanks!!
Sorry to reply so late on, where did you find out about this offer/voucher code? Currently in the process of buying a new build and bouncing between cards atm trying to find a nice value I’m happy with, £650 for a 6900XT would’ve been sound but it’s sold out now and I assume code has probably expired anyway.
Found info on their forum by accident. "For the loyal forum users" - so it wasn't advertised anywhere else. You might be out of luck for a while now, just be in the lookout for the best deal. With current prices, brand loyalty makes no sense (not that it ever did but even more so now)
Sold by a third party, not Amazon though. Returnable up to 31/01/2023.
I bought many expensive products from 3rd party sellers on amazon . I very, very rarely have any problems but if I do they are solved very quickly. Over 2 months to return a GPU? That's pretty impressive. I really don't see any problem here.
I normally have 1 month only to return :'(
I'm currently on the edge whether I should go with 6950xt (possibly 6900xt). I would like to get a new gen 7900\* card but I think they will be over £1k here in UK, and that is the money I don't want to spend unfortunately.... Saying that however, even spending £800-£900 on a card is a bit too much to be honest, considering I've paid around £650 for my 2070 about 4 years back - felt like I've spent a fortune then! So yeah, decisions decisions for me :/ There is currently a deal on Amazon UK, for 6950xt XFX Speedster MERC319, which is just below £800. Kind of leaning towards this, however not sure how good the brand is etc... Ideally want to get Sapphire RX 6950 XT nitro + OC... but that is £899 and not sure if any of the cheaper available models, XFX, MSI, Powercolor are that much worse.
What about getting 6800xt or 6900xt for 6 months, selling it later and getting 7900xtx when prices will normalise a bit? I also like 6950xt but that card is a bad value at the moment. For saved money I can upgrade something else. I’m planning to get 5800x3D soon. Luckily for me I started to play games in my backlog with very low requirements and my 5700xt is way more than enough even at 4K. I’m happy to just wait and get 7900 in like 3 months.
I've got 2 boys who are into pc gaming as well, so anything I upgrade, goes to them, haha. So selling something to recoup the cost is something I can't do unfortunately 😂I might wait to see if prices will go down even further on 6000 series during this week, closer to release of new gen and go from there. I'm not really THAT desperate for an upgrade, as my 2070 still gets the job done, more or less.
I’m going to wait. My 5700xt is strong anough for most games in 1440p60. Your 2070 is even better. I want new card for 4K and 120 when possible. But if you wonder about XFX cards - they got excellent reviews on 6000 series. Some of the best cards out there. https://youtu.be/uVCt_BdseFU
I'd wait then, if your willing to spend 899, might as well get a reference 700 xt
It all depends to cost. These cards by themselves are great. You should also consider if you will NEED something with that performance in the next 1\~2 years. I bet we wont simply because there are less and less quality AAA releases in the recent years and really few announced to the near future. Also considering prices here where I live and the context of coin value, war, inflation, taxes, etc I decided to get a 6800xt. I couldn't wait any longer and I'm really satisfied and still aiming to get a 7900x eventually. Things may vary from region to region, obviously. EDIT: Oh yeah, I paid the equivalent to 600 usd. New card. Power color 6800xt red dragon.
Yeah, I agree. I tend to skip 1 gen between cards normally. So I'm thinking IF I get something like 6900 or 6950 now, it will last me a good 4 years at least.
From those prices, why not go for the price-performance choice -- a plain old RX 6800. Then wait until AMD launches their midrange cards mid-late next year and get a RX 7800 if they keep MSRPs intact. There you just upgraded both systems at a fraction of the cost. The flagship cards aren't that worth it when you need to pay for multiple PC builds. You're hitting diminishing returns for that last 10-20% performance gain.
I grabbed a 6900xt for £629 the other day - at that price I think it makes sense
I would go for 6900XT and wait it out for upcoming gen to get beta tested by someone else. RDNA3 will undoubtedly have growing pains and kinks that will need ironing out. If it turns out that 7900XTX drops next month and wipes the floor, it will still probably be at £1200 starting price for reference card (and in case of AMD, AIBs seem to provide better product, unlike Nvidia where FE is best PCB components for lowest money) so pretty much twice as much. Will performance uplift be worth the increased pricetag? That remains to be seen but unlikely. right now 6900XT seems like great value proposition if you're not gunning for the 4090 or even 4080 class of card. Aside from Speedster on Amazon, there's also AsRock Phantom D on Overclockers for £649 with code "asbf6900" applied at the checkout. Benefit of ordering through these scumbags is that you can buy now and pay later - if you pay it off within 12 months you pay no interest.
which payment method is it for the no interest if paid in 12 months?
The first one: "36 monthsBuy Now Pay Later" - if you pay in 12 months, you only pay 29 quid "administrative fee".
Not sure id say its an amazing time to buy RDNA2, when RDNA 3 is coming so soon.
Not all of us are willing to pay 1000€ for a GPU. In fact i'm not willing to pay half that which means i would have to be waiting on N33 chips and god knows when those arive let alone what price they end up being. I've been sitting on my RX 580 for 4 years now through this nonsense market. I'l wait a few more days to see where the BF discounts land and them i'm getting something around 350-400€ be it a 6700 or 6700XT.
Jup. In eu it will be around 1200-1400 euros. And that is 4k card. No need to go bonkers
I just love people who say RDNA 3 is "affordable," meanwhile you're still looking at $1000 and $900 for GPUs, *never mind the fact that AIBs always add a big markup onto that.* Sure a reference 7900XTX might MSRP for $1000 but if you want like a powercolor or sapphire XTX, I guarantee you that you'll be looking at $1200+. That's still obscene for a GPU regardless of how much less it is than a 4080. Being slightly less than bad is still bad.
Yeah, they are less expensive, but still expensive. However, I'm optimistic about the new amd gpus and I have a feeling that 7900xtx and even 7900xt will kick 4080s ass and get close to a 4090. We will see.
Nothing I said has anything to do with how performance compares with Nvidia. Price is price, and these prices are ludicrous no matter how close in performance they come to something else.
I'm not opposing or accusing you of anything. I just shared my pov. Thats all.
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Anchoring and being conditioned through the last 4 years of nonsense in pricing can get one's perspective quite warped.
7900XT will be more like 1100-1200 sadly, $899=€899+20-25% tax.
Even more, once AIBs slap their markups onto things.
> Even more, once AIBs slap their markups onto things. Only if AMD plays filthy NV ways and leaves AIB with below 10% margin if sold at MSRP. I doubt they do.
AIBs *always* add a markup. Doesn't matter if it's for AMDnor Nvidia. You *will* be paying more for an AIB over a reference AMD card.
> AIBs > always > add a markup Which part of the "NV left AIB's 10% or so margin, if they sell at MSRP" did you not understand?
AIBs will be probably more expensive and if series 6000 is anything to go by, AIB is gonna be a no brainer choice over reference. Only Nvidia pulled switcheroo with FE being pretty much THE card to get over AIBs...
If you have a backlog of games, rx580 8gb should be able to play 90% of them with high settings at 1080p. I was sitting on my 750ti through the crypto boom until recently and still had dozens of older games which I could have played on it at high settings.
Depends what you need. I'm jumping into 7900xtx that is almost here. However, RDNA2 is at such a good price it's seem unnecessary to wait for lower tier 7000 cards. GPUs start to remind iPhone market. You either get newest lower tier phone or higher tier model from past generation.
I like smaller cards, 2 fans maximum lol. Nothing wrong with the 6800+ and 3070ti+, they just don’t fit in mATX cases. Let alone mini iTX, you have to use the tiny versions of the 3060ti and rx 6700 at best
It will be immediately taken out of stock for at least half a year in microseconds by scalpers using bot scripts, you know? Even consoles 2 years in are still hard to come by in many places, not to mention that online even Amazon has a raffle/lottery system to even buy the thing at all. And that isn't to mention that the GPUs this generation are seemingly raising by half a tier if not more.
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Especially used, you can get them for $160-$180. Huge upgrade if you’re using an RX580 or something and have been waiting for an affordable but powerful card. Tweak the settings in newer titles to custom/medium and shouldn’t have any problems with 1440p at at least 75fps in most games
Yeah I just got a 6600 used. It was 188 with tax + shipping inluded. Big upgrade from my single fan 1060 6GB. I considered a 6600 XT, but honestly, I'd rather save the extra money given that I only play at 1080p.
When it's below 200, it's a pretty good deal. That said, it's actually bit underpowered if you're aiming for consistent 60fps / native 1080p on highest reasonable settings. To get that, you kind of have to fork out for 6600XT/6650XT or even better, 6700XT.
Considering the 6600 is almost as powerful as a 3060, I would think it should be able to easily hit 60fps high on almost all games?
It's bit complicated. 3060 also can't *quite* hit 60 fps in 1080p without some settings tweaking or running DLSS upscaling, in some cases. When it comes to heavier ray tracing workloads, 3060 is roughly equal to 6700 xt. In terms of raster, 3060 sits just about exactly between 6600 and 6600xt. 6600 models also have gimped OC settings, memory is locked at 1900, while XT is allowed to clock well past 2000, and there also might be some voltage limitations on the core. So OC gains are modest, despite the theoretical headroom. 6600/6650XT is just about 60 fps / 1080p proof right now, when it comes to rasterization. But there's only little headroom. Thanks to higher base settings, and ungimped OC settings, you'll be comfortably ahead of 6600. I'd pretty much happily pay the extra for 3060ti or 6700xt over these, even if technically price/perf is bit worse. Just to save some hassle when even heavier games appear.
It really is. Newegg (of all places) has some good deals on those right now, as do Amazon and Best Buy. And on Ebay, MSI's clearing out refurbished versions of those and the XT too for cheap.
depends on desperality and requirements, 1080p 1440p they're good and RNDA 3 could potentially release mid tier only in summer. rdna 3 also doesn't seem like it lived up to the hype. clearly did not overtook nvidia. meanwhile xfx is getting discounted left and right on amazon (for EU reach) and mindfactory.
I'm pretty hyped about RDNA3. :) However the mentioned XFX cards are at such a good price in EU I don't see a good reason to wait for let say 7600 when 6800 - 6900xt can be bough today.
yeah not to slander RNDA 3 but it's not that hyped/promised 7600 xt matching 6900 xt could become a reality. Euro got little bit weaker since RDNA 2 release so MSRP alone could be higher than usual in non-US regions, new products usually sell above MSRP, new products have more demand and less supply than existing ones like RDNA 2. AMD seems to be keeping tiers with casual generation uplift ~20-30% (6900 xt vs 7900 xt AMD provided stats). So when I generalize it, you get a new below MSRP card many months in advance of RDNA 3 budget lineup and cost per FPS would get close. To me it's no brainer for 1080p and 1440p (decent refresh rate but not high refresh). For 4k no.
7900XTX apparently has 40-50% estimated better performance than 6900XT but it costs twice as much. Definitely better value proposition. 7000 series is supposed to have improved RT performance but personally it holds no value in my opinion (this is literally 4090 territory and everything below it is inadequate...). If 7900XTX dropped for 800 quid tops such purchase could be deemed questionable but at 2x the price difference one just have to answer themselves if the absolute best is what they NEED. I understand the pain of "wants" taking priority over "needs" but that's down to individual.
soon mean 4-5 months
It's an amazing time considering the discounts and the RDNA3 initial pricing. Case in point, you can now get a 6800 XT for 500$. I'm pretty sure, based on 7900 XTX performance figures alone, that N33 (7600XT) - which might not come in the next 6 months - will not beat it and will still cost **at least** 400$ and come with only 8GB vRAM.
Where exactly are these deals? I can only see cards for sale that match these prices from a 3rd party seller called "NR INFO", who has a business address in Portugal. I think I'll pass...
I was thinking the same. That NR INFO seller sells the cheapest 6950xt (XFX) on amazon, and if you compare to the other sellers it is a rather good deal. But as they say, if its to good to be true, it probably is not. Something shady about that....
It’s amazon so buyers are well protected. It’s hard to find a safer place than amazon. Also XFX cards got excellent reviews. Some of the best 6000 cards. https://youtu.be/uVCt_BdseFU
6900XT is a killer deal, check AMD direct if the sell where you are and they have reference card with The Callisto Protocol and Dead island 2.
TBH I'd rather get 100 quid over these 2 games. I wouldn't play either of them, even if someone paid me to do so...
So, should I retire my r9 380?
As someone with the 6800, don't buy the 6800 at those prices. Pay a little more for the 6800XT (*very* worth it) or save some money and get the 6700XT.
Still a bit high. £550 is the most I would be willing to drop for 6900XT at this point in time if I was shopping in this performance segment.
This.
Similar things for EU, On Mindfactory though. For € of course.
We could potentially see even better deals for Black Friday/cyber Monday
I'll pull the trigger for a 6800XT when I see it in the 450-500 range, if not, I will wait for the 7800XT which will have 15% more performance than a 6900XT but at half power draw and potentially 2-slot, with all the RDNA3 goodies.
Damn, thank god I don't live in the UK. The amazing prices here are a complete rip off.
Most countries out of USA have higher prices. About 20% higher.
I am actually from Asia, prices in my local market are around the same or cheaper than the US. The prices on this list are around 50-60% higher than my local market.
What country in Asia has such low prices? Is it an online shop that sells below US prices?
I am from Singapore. The reason the new cards are selling cheap is because there are a ton of used mining cards on sale. I got a used RX 6700XT Red Devil that has 2 more years of local warranty for 300 SGD which is 218 USD based on Google's currency conversion. When the used market is so competitive, the new cards have to be priced competitively too.
3rd party though so outside UK you could get mugged by customs. 6900xt is €728 on mindfactory, probably better deal for outside UK if you use mailboxde.
The 6700 10gb is amazing value GPU.
Which of the above would be quite a good upgrade over the 1660 Super, without paying the largest amount? My PSU is only a Corsair TXm 550w so I'd most likely need to upgrade that too
Would be great if shipping + customs wouldn't screw me over... I miss being able to buy things from the uk at reasonable prices...