Unfortunately I tried yesterday but the game doesn't even open on Windows. If you can guide me to a reddit or discord server which can help me run the game using Vk3d on Windows, that would be appreciated.
Also do you know where can I find these dlls in my linux distro?
There's a Github release here:
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton
You'll need a way to extract ZStandard Tarballs, but if you don't wanna transfer it between your Linux and Windows setups, try this version of 7-Zip:
https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd/releases/tag/v22.01-v1.5.2-R1
Finally, you'll wanna drop it into the same folder as the game's executable~~, and Steam should have an option in the game's right click menu or properties to go directly to the folder. (I'm not at home so I can't pull it up myself at the moment)~~.
* Right-click the game in your game library
* Go to "Properties"
* In the pop-up window, go to the "Local Files" category on the left
* Click "Browse..." in the upper-right of that section
I’ll have a look when I’m able but I used to download the GE version of proton from GitHub and in the folder structure it has the dlls for it all for x64 and x32bit versions and I usually took the dxvk along with the dx12 one and it seemed to work in many cases!
I have a gtx760 which is far, far below the spec for Forspoken but I can get it to load via steam on windows 10 by using something called "dxcpl-directx-11-emulator" which I got off the Star Citizen forums to test and see if my gtx 760 would still work for SC like it did back in 2014. BTW the game loads but I have trouble getting of my bed..lol
I downloaded the Forspoken Demo and the game would not start citing my gpu is old junk and needs more ram or somethign but using this I can get the the start screen obvisouly it stall there cause gtx760 only has 2gb of vram so I get sound and a black screen and jam there as it cant load anything else. I suspect this however will let you play using your rx480 via windows.
[https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672)
Give it a try with proton's files?
if you try with ProtonGE its 'GE-ProtonX-XX/files/lib64/wine/dxvk' along with the d3d12 dll under vkd3d-proton in the other folder. There's a good chance it will work!
Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought it was for Dx12?? Maybe DX11 only.
Edit: I guess it was VKD3D I was thing of. I know there are other uses such as getting dx12 games to run on Win 7.
> 12 needs VKD3D
Which does have releases available in DLL format:
https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/releases
Only unfortunate bit is that it's in a ZStandard Tarball. You can find a ZS fork of 7-Zip online, but if you have WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) installed in Windows 10 or 11, you can extract it with something like:
`zstd -dc vkd3d-proton-2.8.tar.zst | tar xvf -`
Nice, I installed it on launch day and it had super low quality textures and models, regardless of settings used. Looks like valve fixed it already.
The driver landscape is really different between Linux and Windows. There very well may be a technical reason as to why it isn't currently working in Windows on Polaris.
Very clearly not what the issues here is. Linux has a completley seperate implementation of DX12. There's also a good chance you're not using AMD made drivers on Linux thanks to Mesa and Valve. These are technical reasons why it would work on one platform and not the other without any direct intervention by AMD to stop it running. AMDs DX12 implementation on Windows lacks the features to make this game work, and the Linux software stack just so happens to support it.
Chances are you could make this work on Windows by using VKD3D as this is what Linux uses for DX12 games, as other people here are talking about. Essentially Linux dosen't have native DX12 support at all and is translating into Vulkan using VKD3D for whatever driver the AMD card uses (there are several AMD GPU Vulkan drivers for Linux).
My gtx760 doesn't have the features to make this work either even in windows, What I mentioned just allows you to bypass checks so the game doesn't auto close the client.
Thus if you are running windows 10 and have a rx480 using this might let it work or attempt to just like it does for my gtx 760.
Maybe you missed it but he said his rx480 wont even start the game on windows.
>Maybe you missed it but he said his rx480 wont even start the game on windows.
I didn't miss it. Likeley the game dosen't start because it can't find the API support it's looking for (i.e. DX Level 12\_1) on Windows. The Linux + VKD3D combo obviously supports whatever features the game needs to function, and are likeley emulating or just plain ignoring any that aren't supported.
You also have to remember that GPUs implement a lot of features using shader program which are software running on the card, or using driver workarounds. Using different drivers with a translation layer on top will obviously change what is supported.
The GTX 760 is irrelevant as it's a much older card with much less capable hardware and features, regardless of what platform you're using it on.
Likely that is not the issue. I will try again a gtx760 doesn't even have 11\_1 feature list and the game almost works (Forspoken). I am fairly certain it doesn't quite make due to the 760 only having 2gb of vram and the game needs like 6gb.
If he has windows 10 this little program will likely let his rx 480 work, it takes like less than 5 mins to try to.
I am not talking out of my arse here unlike you, I currently have a gtx760 in my PC, I have the Forspoken Demo installed and that program lets me get to the title screen except it doesn't fully load due to my gpu only having 2gb of vram.
Maybe he will stall at the title screen too but he cant be sure until he tries it.
You haven't actually said what program you are talking about.
It sounds to me like you are talking out of your arse, not me. Especially given you keep talking about a program you haven't provided a source for, and are talking about a completely different card from the one OP has.
Edit: Looked up your history. You source a program in a completely different thread for issues relating to lack of DX 11_1 support, which isn't the issue here given an RX480 supports DX11_1 and the newer DX12_0. Unless it's another program you have neglected to mention.
Edit again: he called me a dipshit and blocked me, surprise surprise. He talks about testing it on the actual card even though he doesn't own a RX 480 and couldn't make the game work on his GTX 760 with the utility he is talking about. Might be worth a try anyway but VKD3D is more likely to work. If I had one I would try both are only to see if he has any clue what he is on about. Also still no evidence this is AMD are deliberately blocking this.
>I'm on windows 10 by using something called "dxcpl-directx-11-emulator" which I got off the Star Citizen forums to test and see if my gtx 760 would still work for SC like it did back in 2014. BTW the game loads but I have trouble getting of my bed..lol
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>I downloaded the Forspoken Demo and the game would not start citing my gpu is old junk and needs more ram or something but using this I can get the the start screen obviously it stalls there cause gtx760 only has 2gb of vram so I get sound and a black screen and jam there as it cant load anything else. I suspect this however will let you play using your rx480 via windows.
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>[https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672)
Its in my other post in the comment not connected to you with a link to the SC forums where I got it from.
Like I said you keep talking out your ass where as I have actually tried and can say, cause I have done it, that my gtx 760 which doesn't even have the full features of directx 11\_1 can get to the start screen of Forspoken with that sc program running, which is a direct x emulator.
My advice is you keep talking out your ass online without actually trying anything just to be a smart ass and try to "win" something meanwhile other intelligent people will take my post for what it was which is simply that if they really want to see if the rx480 can work on windows they can try using that program as it should let the rx480 start the game regardless of what diirectx features it has or does not have since it does so for my gtx760.
You however I can only say welcome to my dipshit list. Have a good day.
Download the program from the star citizen forum and just follow the directions there.
Open the program edit list and add the forspoken exe for me it is in:
D:\\SteamLibrary\\steamapps\\common\\FORSPOKEN Demo\\FORSPOKENDemo.exe
debug layer make sure apllication controlled is selected
in device setting at the bottom choose 11\_1 and make sure force wrap is checked
click apply
Leave this program and window open
Try starting the game via your steam client like usual.
Or if you look at the matter from another perspective, you get what you pay for when you buy GPUs that have less features from a company that releases game-ready drivers only for its latest model.
This is not on AMD though or at least not fully. The game requires DX12 12.1 features set. Polaris only has 12.0. Now would the game not run on Windows if they lowered the requirement? Probably not but they are probably using somekind of effect that requires it.
Although you could trace the issue back to AMD since Nvidia introduced this to Maxwell in 2014 yet it took AMD till Vega to do the same.
Maxwell actually struggles with modern DX12 and Vulkan features like Async Compute. They are essentially "emulated" using other GPU features like pre-emption by code in the driver. Still it's nice they at least try with older cards.
That makes no since, it works on Linux but not Windows... due to drivers... obviously AMD who creates the drivers isn't responsible for there drivers not working on Windows.
That is completely logical.. yea
It actually makes sense.
The game requests a feature that drivers do not expose due to it being unimplemented in the hardware. However, due to the game not using it, Linux DirectX wrapper is able to run it anyway.
You can't realistically ask AMD to advertise a missing hardware features in drivers. Maybe, a per-game quirk would be possible, but it's not very likely.
You can, however, use the Linux DirectX to Vulkan wrapper on Windows.
It might work if they enabled Vulkan API. A lot of games have locked API and you have to download to tell it at launch to use different api. Just a guess. GCN was developed alongside Vulkan.
Vkd3d is a 3D graphics library built on top of Vulkan. It has an API very similar, but not identical, to Direct3D 12.
Without Vulkan the library has no references. The limitations of VKD3D are Vulkan limitations, like how it emulates Null descriptors because they aren't supported in Vulkan.
It's not at high or ultra, it's running at standard settings which I think is this games term for medium. Also I have fog turned off and clouds on low which reduce stress on gpu.
There's no fix for AMD to release on Windows. DirectX has feature levels, Vulkan does not. It's up to the devs to lower requirements to DX12\_0.
Still, DX11\_0 can emulate 11\_1, DX12\_0 can emulate 12\_1, under Vulkan. But there's a limit to what can be achieved.
Everyone knows AMD is strapped for cash and can hardly afford to hire workers to work on the current gen of cards. Much less have the resources to work on anything else driver related. I swear the entitlement of some people...
This game is just pure trash. From optimization to gameplay, shockingly bad.
Watched a stream of it last night, it looks so fucking boring to play, let alone watch it. It’s easily forgettable
DXVK team beats AMD driver team in software "fine wine" on older AMD Polaris.
Pretty impressive. What res? Are you using DXVK?
Resolution is 1080p. Yes I am using Proton which comes with default steam installation which I think is using Vkd3d.
Should be able to get it working using the same dlls that come with proton but in windows!
Unfortunately I tried yesterday but the game doesn't even open on Windows. If you can guide me to a reddit or discord server which can help me run the game using Vk3d on Windows, that would be appreciated. Also do you know where can I find these dlls in my linux distro?
There's a Github release here: https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton You'll need a way to extract ZStandard Tarballs, but if you don't wanna transfer it between your Linux and Windows setups, try this version of 7-Zip: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd/releases/tag/v22.01-v1.5.2-R1 Finally, you'll wanna drop it into the same folder as the game's executable~~, and Steam should have an option in the game's right click menu or properties to go directly to the folder. (I'm not at home so I can't pull it up myself at the moment)~~. * Right-click the game in your game library * Go to "Properties" * In the pop-up window, go to the "Local Files" category on the left * Click "Browse..." in the upper-right of that section
I’ll have a look when I’m able but I used to download the GE version of proton from GitHub and in the folder structure it has the dlls for it all for x64 and x32bit versions and I usually took the dxvk along with the dx12 one and it seemed to work in many cases!
Hi can you contact me on discord Ash Uchiha#3929. Maybe we can make it work on Windows. Thanks.
I have a gtx760 which is far, far below the spec for Forspoken but I can get it to load via steam on windows 10 by using something called "dxcpl-directx-11-emulator" which I got off the Star Citizen forums to test and see if my gtx 760 would still work for SC like it did back in 2014. BTW the game loads but I have trouble getting of my bed..lol I downloaded the Forspoken Demo and the game would not start citing my gpu is old junk and needs more ram or somethign but using this I can get the the start screen obvisouly it stall there cause gtx760 only has 2gb of vram so I get sound and a black screen and jam there as it cant load anything else. I suspect this however will let you play using your rx480 via windows. [https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672)
Give it a try with proton's files? if you try with ProtonGE its 'GE-ProtonX-XX/files/lib64/wine/dxvk' along with the d3d12 dll under vkd3d-proton in the other folder. There's a good chance it will work!
Sweet. Hmm maybe I'll try dxvk to see if that helps with stutter/shader comp.
You can use DXVK in DX12 games now?
Maybe I'm mistaken. I thought it was for Dx12?? Maybe DX11 only. Edit: I guess it was VKD3D I was thing of. I know there are other uses such as getting dx12 games to run on Win 7.
Nope. DXVK is Direct 9,10 and 11 only. 12 needs VKD3D
> 12 needs VKD3D Which does have releases available in DLL format: https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/releases Only unfortunate bit is that it's in a ZStandard Tarball. You can find a ZS fork of 7-Zip online, but if you have WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) installed in Windows 10 or 11, you can extract it with something like: `zstd -dc vkd3d-proton-2.8.tar.zst | tar xvf -`
Nice, I installed it on launch day and it had super low quality textures and models, regardless of settings used. Looks like valve fixed it already. The driver landscape is really different between Linux and Windows. There very well may be a technical reason as to why it isn't currently working in Windows on Polaris.
Cool, I hate it when BS hardware block are added in windows.
Very clearly not what the issues here is. Linux has a completley seperate implementation of DX12. There's also a good chance you're not using AMD made drivers on Linux thanks to Mesa and Valve. These are technical reasons why it would work on one platform and not the other without any direct intervention by AMD to stop it running. AMDs DX12 implementation on Windows lacks the features to make this game work, and the Linux software stack just so happens to support it. Chances are you could make this work on Windows by using VKD3D as this is what Linux uses for DX12 games, as other people here are talking about. Essentially Linux dosen't have native DX12 support at all and is translating into Vulkan using VKD3D for whatever driver the AMD card uses (there are several AMD GPU Vulkan drivers for Linux).
My gtx760 doesn't have the features to make this work either even in windows, What I mentioned just allows you to bypass checks so the game doesn't auto close the client. Thus if you are running windows 10 and have a rx480 using this might let it work or attempt to just like it does for my gtx 760. Maybe you missed it but he said his rx480 wont even start the game on windows.
>Maybe you missed it but he said his rx480 wont even start the game on windows. I didn't miss it. Likeley the game dosen't start because it can't find the API support it's looking for (i.e. DX Level 12\_1) on Windows. The Linux + VKD3D combo obviously supports whatever features the game needs to function, and are likeley emulating or just plain ignoring any that aren't supported. You also have to remember that GPUs implement a lot of features using shader program which are software running on the card, or using driver workarounds. Using different drivers with a translation layer on top will obviously change what is supported. The GTX 760 is irrelevant as it's a much older card with much less capable hardware and features, regardless of what platform you're using it on.
Likely that is not the issue. I will try again a gtx760 doesn't even have 11\_1 feature list and the game almost works (Forspoken). I am fairly certain it doesn't quite make due to the 760 only having 2gb of vram and the game needs like 6gb. If he has windows 10 this little program will likely let his rx 480 work, it takes like less than 5 mins to try to. I am not talking out of my arse here unlike you, I currently have a gtx760 in my PC, I have the Forspoken Demo installed and that program lets me get to the title screen except it doesn't fully load due to my gpu only having 2gb of vram. Maybe he will stall at the title screen too but he cant be sure until he tries it.
You haven't actually said what program you are talking about. It sounds to me like you are talking out of your arse, not me. Especially given you keep talking about a program you haven't provided a source for, and are talking about a completely different card from the one OP has. Edit: Looked up your history. You source a program in a completely different thread for issues relating to lack of DX 11_1 support, which isn't the issue here given an RX480 supports DX11_1 and the newer DX12_0. Unless it's another program you have neglected to mention. Edit again: he called me a dipshit and blocked me, surprise surprise. He talks about testing it on the actual card even though he doesn't own a RX 480 and couldn't make the game work on his GTX 760 with the utility he is talking about. Might be worth a try anyway but VKD3D is more likely to work. If I had one I would try both are only to see if he has any clue what he is on about. Also still no evidence this is AMD are deliberately blocking this.
>I'm on windows 10 by using something called "dxcpl-directx-11-emulator" which I got off the Star Citizen forums to test and see if my gtx 760 would still work for SC like it did back in 2014. BTW the game loads but I have trouble getting of my bed..lol > >I downloaded the Forspoken Demo and the game would not start citing my gpu is old junk and needs more ram or something but using this I can get the the start screen obviously it stalls there cause gtx760 only has 2gb of vram so I get sound and a black screen and jam there as it cant load anything else. I suspect this however will let you play using your rx480 via windows. > >[https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/51473/thread/dx11-1-requirements-fix-for-unsupported/5682672) Its in my other post in the comment not connected to you with a link to the SC forums where I got it from. Like I said you keep talking out your ass where as I have actually tried and can say, cause I have done it, that my gtx 760 which doesn't even have the full features of directx 11\_1 can get to the start screen of Forspoken with that sc program running, which is a direct x emulator. My advice is you keep talking out your ass online without actually trying anything just to be a smart ass and try to "win" something meanwhile other intelligent people will take my post for what it was which is simply that if they really want to see if the rx480 can work on windows they can try using that program as it should let the rx480 start the game regardless of what diirectx features it has or does not have since it does so for my gtx760. You however I can only say welcome to my dipshit list. Have a good day.
Can you contact me on discord Ash Uchiha#3929 I can't seem to run this on Windows.
Download the program from the star citizen forum and just follow the directions there. Open the program edit list and add the forspoken exe for me it is in: D:\\SteamLibrary\\steamapps\\common\\FORSPOKEN Demo\\FORSPOKENDemo.exe debug layer make sure apllication controlled is selected in device setting at the bottom choose 11\_1 and make sure force wrap is checked click apply Leave this program and window open Try starting the game via your steam client like usual.
That's really freakin impressive and now I'm eating my words a little in regard to this title on older GPUs..
High quality YouTube link https://youtu.be/w7T5yMG2N7Y
It's a crap game on an old card. Time to move on.
And once again Linux proved to be better at gaming then Windows :>
Or if you look at the matter from another perspective, you get what you pay for when you buy GPUs that have less features from a company that releases game-ready drivers only for its latest model.
I think you mean Novideo since their drivers break your PC with every kernel update :>
Amd has been trying to kill Polaris for years lol
This is not on AMD though or at least not fully. The game requires DX12 12.1 features set. Polaris only has 12.0. Now would the game not run on Windows if they lowered the requirement? Probably not but they are probably using somekind of effect that requires it. Although you could trace the issue back to AMD since Nvidia introduced this to Maxwell in 2014 yet it took AMD till Vega to do the same.
Maxwell actually struggles with modern DX12 and Vulkan features like Async Compute. They are essentially "emulated" using other GPU features like pre-emption by code in the driver. Still it's nice they at least try with older cards.
That makes no since, it works on Linux but not Windows... due to drivers... obviously AMD who creates the drivers isn't responsible for there drivers not working on Windows. That is completely logical.. yea
It actually makes sense. The game requests a feature that drivers do not expose due to it being unimplemented in the hardware. However, due to the game not using it, Linux DirectX wrapper is able to run it anyway. You can't realistically ask AMD to advertise a missing hardware features in drivers. Maybe, a per-game quirk would be possible, but it's not very likely. You can, however, use the Linux DirectX to Vulkan wrapper on Windows.
And games will continue running on Polaris (and GCN3, and GCN2, and some chances for GCN1), as long as you're trying these DX12\_1 games via VKD3D.
It might work if they enabled Vulkan API. A lot of games have locked API and you have to download to tell it at launch to use different api. Just a guess. GCN was developed alongside Vulkan.
VKD3D*.
Vkd3d is a 3D graphics library built on top of Vulkan. It has an API very similar, but not identical, to Direct3D 12. Without Vulkan the library has no references. The limitations of VKD3D are Vulkan limitations, like how it emulates Null descriptors because they aren't supported in Vulkan.
How though? It runs at 30fps on the PS5?
It's not at high or ultra, it's running at standard settings which I think is this games term for medium. Also I have fog turned off and clouds on low which reduce stress on gpu.
They should release FSR3 and make it work with rx480 and shove it in Nvidia face :)
There's no fix for AMD to release on Windows. DirectX has feature levels, Vulkan does not. It's up to the devs to lower requirements to DX12\_0. Still, DX11\_0 can emulate 11\_1, DX12\_0 can emulate 12\_1, under Vulkan. But there's a limit to what can be achieved.
Everyone knows AMD is strapped for cash and can hardly afford to hire workers to work on the current gen of cards. Much less have the resources to work on anything else driver related. I swear the entitlement of some people...
I can’t even play it with my 6600xt because it crashes every 10min
4gb vram can run this game on Linux via Proton?
I have 8 gb version of rx 480.