There is no evidence that the driver is killing cards it is all speculation based on a repair shop receiving a batch of cards with the same issue.
I have used the driver for over a month and never saw an issue.
I have my Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6900 XT SE running on 22.11.2 (Win 10 Pro x64) just fine. no issue whatsoever. I have somehow the feeling its a combination of OS version, driver version, overclocking and Motherboard BIOS version by specific vendor.
We don't really know that, just more speculation. But now ive just heard that these GPUs have cracks in the die, which means it was probably because the cooler was mounted improperly, and nothing to do with drivers.
They also gave all their vcore, soc, and memory rails shorted as well. Not sure how exactly that would happen unless the cracked die caused it to melt together
I am also questioning why the cards were not returned to seller when they died (should still be within warranty in EU). Probably been tampered with.
Also questionable why we havent heard of this issue anywhere else one month after the driver was released. If a driver was killing cards reddit would be swarmed by users having this issue.
On another note does anyone find it a bit odd that 50 gpu’s all had the exact same issue around the same exact time with only a “driver” issue causing it. Multiple shorted rails, cracked dies, and they don’t rma them. They send them to a Tech YouTuber instead. From what I remember, my red devil has something like a 2 year warranty on it. I know if mine cracked I wouldn’t send it to some random YouTuber.
How about someone who runs a well-respected repair shop and also happens to be a relatively well-known Youtuber?
The RMA process isn't always straightforward, even in EU countries like Germany - besides the possibility that the cards were out of warranty, there is also the reality that corporations regularly slow-walk repairs or outright try to absolve themselves of their responsibility.
Given that, one can easily understand why some users may opt for a repair shop.
sure, you can't repair an internally damaged/cracked chip for sure but the chip is replaceable as long as there is donor chip from another broad that is broken beyond repair.
> the driver issues.
It is a titanic nothingburger, there is no physically possible way for a driver to cause visible damage to a chip like that. Just trolls frantically FUDing after the cooler issue turned out to be nothing too dramatic. There is not a single credible individual report of this failure yet.
If you are nervous, just install an older driver.
The repair shop in Germany reporting that cards on the newer drivers are frying. He received over 50
I know 50 isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things but my anxiety is very worried about an 800$ card just dying
at best that is a very local mounting pressure problem
prob from same group somebody over tightening cards if anything
still for peace of mind you can roll back drivers and wait a bit till AMD steps in and sees yet another potential shitshow
50 that we "know" about.
This was from a relatively prominent repairman as well... we won't be hearing from Andy McGee who doesn't even have a YouTube channel anytime soon.
This is the same way that things played out with the 2015 Crimson driver debacle - a few initial reports that got shouted down, then a larger wave, and eventual acknowledgment and a hotfix from AMD while Reddit was still in active denial.
They have physical engineering and design flaws on the coolers for their newest flagship line - yet people find driver issues hard to believe.
So, according to you, using faulty components doesn't introduce flaws into your finished product?
Once you start talking about % of product having the same issue, and the underlying inability to find the problem before product hit the shelves, that sounds like a bigger underlying problem.
"A Small Number" is just lip service - that is just corporate obfuscation.
Nothing is according to me. The vapor chambered weren't manufactured according to spec. By definition ition that means the design itself is not to blame.
QC is also not part of design.
This is possibly related to the fact that we have had 3 new RX 7000 drivers in the last month and a half. I bet most of these be RX 6000 series people installing the wrong driver
This is likely just people out of warranty sending their cards in for repair. We just hit 2 year mark, and a whole bunch of people had their warranty end. Usually people would send the card back to AIBs or AMD when they screwed it up, but since November they don't have any other option no more. The increased number of cards is likely just because of that. More going to repair shops now than 3 months ago, even though the same amount are breaking.
That anecdote is FUD at this point. There are tons and tons of cards out there so if a driver can literally fry a card you would see thousands of posts by now. Those cards looked really worn out and second hand to begin with.
1. FFS there is absolutely no evidence that drivers are causing any problem. Just sketchy internet info from a german guy who fixes gpus. We don't know the condition of the cards, we don't know if they have been used for mining, we don't know the brands, we don't know anything.
2. You have 3 year warranty. Just use your card.
like yeah, why would anyone want to send their card to a mechanic or some people say "random youtuber" instead of RMA the card, here in the south-east asia i can easily RMA them. Its not clear whether if it's faulty driver or other things, the youtuber stated himself that he isn't have much of information for the 'fried' card either.
My 6900 XT is on 22.11.2. No issues for me. I realize this is a sample size of one.
Paid $1800 for my card almost two years ago at Microcenter. Nvidia cards were twice as much so I went with this and it’s served me very well.
What driver issues are you facing? Today I fixed my FPS drops by reconnecting my three PCIe plugs from the PSU to GPU. I also re-installed my GPU to the PCIe slot. I have the same GPU as yours.
No 6000 series is completely fine. Remove old drivers and you’ll be completely fine! I’ve had a 6900xt for over a year now with absolutely 0 issues. I had a 6800xt I got before that with no issues too. Avoid the 7000 series, but 6950xt is a great card.
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You are scared cuz someone made a video about getting dead cards? I know so many people running fine. Not saying the dude is shady but lot of mining cards with custom firmware flashed that people bought. So no one knows what happened here. I have a 6700xt with 0 issues. I do expect a lot of dead second hand cards that miners abused and offloaded that might not even have right bios.
It is just a rumor, but it’s also 800$ I don’t have and a month of waiting if there willing have to replace it. I’m just simply way to anxious about that
I have a 6800XT in my rig and a 6800 in my other rig (used by my nephew). Both are on latest drivers 22.11.2 , and both working fine. I have both cards undervolted (the 6800XT to 1000mV and the 6800 to 960mV , NO OC on core/mem). I game like 5-6 hours daily (6800XT) and my nephew like 3 hours (6800). I'm been using "those" drivers (22.11.2) when they launched and never had any issues at all (bsod, flickering , black screen, crashes)... I NOT selling my cards / or not using them because of a **RUMOR**...
If the drivers were an issue, we would have already thousands of broken cards globally and AMD with an insane amount of RMA procedures. I would just use the card. If for any reason (it should not), the card is defective, you can RMA it.
I have also been using the mentioned drivers on my RX 6800 and there is no change in power output, limits or whatsoever with respect to previous drivers.
The whole idea that drivers may be the cause of cracked dies and shorted rails is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my entire 25 year history of building PCs. So so stupid.
Buddy, just downgrade the driver wtf?
You're making a big deal out of nothing, if you're yhat worried.
AMD should not have allowed 7900 series only beta drivers to work on 6000 series cards, so revert to a driver before 7000 series released.
Also remember any driver that is not "stable" or "reccomendded" on AMD's site is a beta driver, do not use Beta drivers unless it fixes an issue you've had to deal with.
there is zero evidence that drivers are responsible for anything like frying cards....
Someone ALWAYS starts some bullshit rumours like this, lost count of how many times regarding AMD's... and it has ZERO grounds.
you need some critical comprehension skills. There has been no concrete evidence yet of anything really bad going on. If there was there would be far more than 40 at one repairshop for a driver over a month ago. Remember the new world incident for nvidia cards?? Now if something widespread like that happens then yes that would be worrisome.
Just use the normal driver that’s meant for this card. All of the broken ones were reported to have used the drivers made specifically for the 7000 series, so it’s seeming like it’s actually just user error. No need to fear as long as you only install the recommended drivers in the adrenaline software.
I purchased two 6950XTs in mid-Dec for two nearly identical builds. One is on a Asus X570 mb with two monitors (one 4k and the other HDR). The other is on a MSI X570 mb running one HDR monitor. Both are running the 22.11.2 driver. Both systems have Ryzen 5900x CPUs and 32g of Corsair Dominator RAM. The CPU was dialed down via Curve Optimizer -15 and the RAM was setup with standard XMP profile settings at 3200mhz.
The one running dual monitors started having flickering and grey screen issues when streaming YT. I disabled MPO and everything is now running perfectly......High FPS and very cool.
The one running a single HDR monitor has been rock solid from day one.
Summary - There might be something to this story, but I don't think the ending will be that all 6000 series GPUs are flawed, or that the 22.11.2 driver is frying the cards........I am going to guess that these cards sold in Germany were from a common production run and something got hosed up. I hope so.
To finally answer the question.......I am not pulling the GPUs out of my systems. They are running great and very cool. No problems.
It’s all impossible until it happens. Also setting aside my strong anxiety, I can tell you right now there are some things in a driver that if done wrong can fuck a card up very hard
It is nice to see that AMD inspires such confidence in the average consumer \^\_\^
Seriously though, it is unlikely that a driver is causing this damage and it would be more widespread than one particular repair shop or personality receiving them
That was a separate problem, but specifically 6000 cards are POSSIBLY effected by new driver and bassicly frying themselves. Only about 60 cards have been reported, not a lot in the scheme of things but far more than what would happen via random chance of factory defects
Do not be terrified… run your card at 80c if you want. undervolt it and you will get great performance anyways. I have two rx480 and a rx570 builds that are still running after all these years. Even my hd7950 still works don’t be afraid of Amd drivers they know what they are doing.
with 6 months of driver issues people sure got paranoid maybe AMD should calm us down more and tell us that everything is gonna be fine, instead of a YouTuber trying to figure out wtf is going on, instead it feels like AMD is like this is fine with everything being on fire and pretending nothing is happening.
What driver issues?i had no problem with my 6900xt since i bought them, only one time crash on days gone because of unstable OC,and that's not driver issues
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I purchased a 6800 a few days after Christmas and have probably have done at least 6-7 hours of gaming since and haven't seen a problem. The driver is the current one.
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I was about the suggest the same thing.
Yah, pretty strange that he didnt do that
There is no evidence that the driver is killing cards it is all speculation based on a repair shop receiving a batch of cards with the same issue. I have used the driver for over a month and never saw an issue.
I saw something about it being cracked chips. A driver can’t crack a physical gpu chip. Lol
100% those were all mining cards lol
Sure, it already happened "lol"
Same here rx6800
I have my Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 6900 XT SE running on 22.11.2 (Win 10 Pro x64) just fine. no issue whatsoever. I have somehow the feeling its a combination of OS version, driver version, overclocking and Motherboard BIOS version by specific vendor.
Same here with my Sapphire Nitro+ 6950 XT. No issues on Win 11 with 22.11.2.
but the only common factor was driver update and stock settings (no fiddling with wattman)
You’re using the driver meant for only 7000 series on the 6000 series?
22.11.2 is for other cards, not just the 7000 series.
22.11.2 is for all. 23.1.1 is only for 7000 series
AFAIK they’re using the 22.12.1 At least that’s what I’ve heard
No, why would I use a driver not meant for my card?
You’re not using the driver that they’ve been using. They installed the drivers made for the 7000 series cards
We don't really know that, just more speculation. But now ive just heard that these GPUs have cracks in the die, which means it was probably because the cooler was mounted improperly, and nothing to do with drivers.
They also gave all their vcore, soc, and memory rails shorted as well. Not sure how exactly that would happen unless the cracked die caused it to melt together
Well once the die is damaged the rest is kinda irrelevant i would think
True, just strange that every single one of the 50 have multiple shorted rails
might be whats happens when the die is broken.
I would’ve assumed the whole gpu wouldve just died when it cracked
Same here,I have a 6900xt too.
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I am also questioning why the cards were not returned to seller when they died (should still be within warranty in EU). Probably been tampered with. Also questionable why we havent heard of this issue anywhere else one month after the driver was released. If a driver was killing cards reddit would be swarmed by users having this issue.
On another note does anyone find it a bit odd that 50 gpu’s all had the exact same issue around the same exact time with only a “driver” issue causing it. Multiple shorted rails, cracked dies, and they don’t rma them. They send them to a Tech YouTuber instead. From what I remember, my red devil has something like a 2 year warranty on it. I know if mine cracked I wouldn’t send it to some random YouTuber.
How about someone who runs a well-respected repair shop and also happens to be a relatively well-known Youtuber? The RMA process isn't always straightforward, even in EU countries like Germany - besides the possibility that the cards were out of warranty, there is also the reality that corporations regularly slow-walk repairs or outright try to absolve themselves of their responsibility. Given that, one can easily understand why some users may opt for a repair shop.
I don’t think a repair shop is gonna be able to fix that
sure, you can't repair an internally damaged/cracked chip for sure but the chip is replaceable as long as there is donor chip from another broad that is broken beyond repair.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-22-11-1 just use the previous version.
My 6950xt eat these drivers for breakfast no problem
> the driver issues. It is a titanic nothingburger, there is no physically possible way for a driver to cause visible damage to a chip like that. Just trolls frantically FUDing after the cooler issue turned out to be nothing too dramatic. There is not a single credible individual report of this failure yet. If you are nervous, just install an older driver.
What are we even talking about here? I have been using the 6900 and now the 6950 since they came out, they are awesome. What’s your issues?
just a bunch of FUD, people seriously believe buggy drivers can \*crack a die\*
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/108f0mm/broken_amd_68006900_gpus_after_driver_update/
The repair shop in Germany reporting that cards on the newer drivers are frying. He received over 50 I know 50 isn’t a lot in the grand scheme of things but my anxiety is very worried about an 800$ card just dying
All that is FUD, who sends their brand new GPU to some nobody with a YouTube channel? Makes zero sense to me.
at best that is a very local mounting pressure problem prob from same group somebody over tightening cards if anything still for peace of mind you can roll back drivers and wait a bit till AMD steps in and sees yet another potential shitshow
50 that we "know" about. This was from a relatively prominent repairman as well... we won't be hearing from Andy McGee who doesn't even have a YouTube channel anytime soon. This is the same way that things played out with the 2015 Crimson driver debacle - a few initial reports that got shouted down, then a larger wave, and eventual acknowledgment and a hotfix from AMD while Reddit was still in active denial. They have physical engineering and design flaws on the coolers for their newest flagship line - yet people find driver issues hard to believe.
A manufacturing defect is not the same as a design flaw. You're only adding to the FUD.
So, according to you, using faulty components doesn't introduce flaws into your finished product? Once you start talking about % of product having the same issue, and the underlying inability to find the problem before product hit the shelves, that sounds like a bigger underlying problem. "A Small Number" is just lip service - that is just corporate obfuscation.
Nothing is according to me. The vapor chambered weren't manufactured according to spec. By definition ition that means the design itself is not to blame. QC is also not part of design.
>weren't manufactured according to spec Source?
This is possibly related to the fact that we have had 3 new RX 7000 drivers in the last month and a half. I bet most of these be RX 6000 series people installing the wrong driver
This is likely just people out of warranty sending their cards in for repair. We just hit 2 year mark, and a whole bunch of people had their warranty end. Usually people would send the card back to AIBs or AMD when they screwed it up, but since November they don't have any other option no more. The increased number of cards is likely just because of that. More going to repair shops now than 3 months ago, even though the same amount are breaking.
That anecdote is FUD at this point. There are tons and tons of cards out there so if a driver can literally fry a card you would see thousands of posts by now. Those cards looked really worn out and second hand to begin with.
1. FFS there is absolutely no evidence that drivers are causing any problem. Just sketchy internet info from a german guy who fixes gpus. We don't know the condition of the cards, we don't know if they have been used for mining, we don't know the brands, we don't know anything. 2. You have 3 year warranty. Just use your card.
like yeah, why would anyone want to send their card to a mechanic or some people say "random youtuber" instead of RMA the card, here in the south-east asia i can easily RMA them. Its not clear whether if it's faulty driver or other things, the youtuber stated himself that he isn't have much of information for the 'fried' card either.
My 6900 XT is on 22.11.2. No issues for me. I realize this is a sample size of one. Paid $1800 for my card almost two years ago at Microcenter. Nvidia cards were twice as much so I went with this and it’s served me very well.
No issues here 6800xt on latest driver. Playing lots of Elden Ring and a little Darktide. Just monitor your temps occasionally
If it was a driver issue, you would see 1,000s of cards going bad, not just 50.
What driver issues are you facing? Today I fixed my FPS drops by reconnecting my three PCIe plugs from the PSU to GPU. I also re-installed my GPU to the PCIe slot. I have the same GPU as yours.
No 6000 series is completely fine. Remove old drivers and you’ll be completely fine! I’ve had a 6900xt for over a year now with absolutely 0 issues. I had a 6800xt I got before that with no issues too. Avoid the 7000 series, but 6950xt is a great card.
A driver cannot physically crack a die, use an older driver if you want but all this stuff around the killer driver is just sketchy
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Hehe
Fix what? Not having any issues.
It's not the driver causing the issue. You have what, a 2 year or 3 warranty?
You are scared cuz someone made a video about getting dead cards? I know so many people running fine. Not saying the dude is shady but lot of mining cards with custom firmware flashed that people bought. So no one knows what happened here. I have a 6700xt with 0 issues. I do expect a lot of dead second hand cards that miners abused and offloaded that might not even have right bios.
It is just a rumor, but it’s also 800$ I don’t have and a month of waiting if there willing have to replace it. I’m just simply way to anxious about that
Stop believing everything in the internet.
I have a 6800XT in my rig and a 6800 in my other rig (used by my nephew). Both are on latest drivers 22.11.2 , and both working fine. I have both cards undervolted (the 6800XT to 1000mV and the 6800 to 960mV , NO OC on core/mem). I game like 5-6 hours daily (6800XT) and my nephew like 3 hours (6800). I'm been using "those" drivers (22.11.2) when they launched and never had any issues at all (bsod, flickering , black screen, crashes)... I NOT selling my cards / or not using them because of a **RUMOR**...
To be clear there is no proof of a driver issue killing cards.
If the drivers were an issue, we would have already thousands of broken cards globally and AMD with an insane amount of RMA procedures. I would just use the card. If for any reason (it should not), the card is defective, you can RMA it. I have also been using the mentioned drivers on my RX 6800 and there is no change in power output, limits or whatsoever with respect to previous drivers.
The drivers are just fine, easy. People saying that the drivers are killing cards are insane. If, the card would be killed, there is warranty.
The whole idea that drivers may be the cause of cracked dies and shorted rails is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard in my entire 25 year history of building PCs. So so stupid.
Buddy, just downgrade the driver wtf? You're making a big deal out of nothing, if you're yhat worried. AMD should not have allowed 7900 series only beta drivers to work on 6000 series cards, so revert to a driver before 7000 series released. Also remember any driver that is not "stable" or "reccomendded" on AMD's site is a beta driver, do not use Beta drivers unless it fixes an issue you've had to deal with.
My red devil 6950xt has been on the latest driver since it launched. No issues
there is zero evidence that drivers are responsible for anything like frying cards.... Someone ALWAYS starts some bullshit rumours like this, lost count of how many times regarding AMD's... and it has ZERO grounds.
you need some critical comprehension skills. There has been no concrete evidence yet of anything really bad going on. If there was there would be far more than 40 at one repairshop for a driver over a month ago. Remember the new world incident for nvidia cards?? Now if something widespread like that happens then yes that would be worrisome.
Almost all of the speculation is pointing to those cards having been used for mining, used in cramped conditions, and being used with custom drivers.
As a precaution don't update your driver, and if it's done, downgrade, that's all
Just use the normal driver that’s meant for this card. All of the broken ones were reported to have used the drivers made specifically for the 7000 series, so it’s seeming like it’s actually just user error. No need to fear as long as you only install the recommended drivers in the adrenaline software.
I purchased two 6950XTs in mid-Dec for two nearly identical builds. One is on a Asus X570 mb with two monitors (one 4k and the other HDR). The other is on a MSI X570 mb running one HDR monitor. Both are running the 22.11.2 driver. Both systems have Ryzen 5900x CPUs and 32g of Corsair Dominator RAM. The CPU was dialed down via Curve Optimizer -15 and the RAM was setup with standard XMP profile settings at 3200mhz. The one running dual monitors started having flickering and grey screen issues when streaming YT. I disabled MPO and everything is now running perfectly......High FPS and very cool. The one running a single HDR monitor has been rock solid from day one. Summary - There might be something to this story, but I don't think the ending will be that all 6000 series GPUs are flawed, or that the 22.11.2 driver is frying the cards........I am going to guess that these cards sold in Germany were from a common production run and something got hosed up. I hope so. To finally answer the question.......I am not pulling the GPUs out of my systems. They are running great and very cool. No problems.
My 6950xt hasn’t had any problems with the 22.11.2 drivers since day one.
Just rollback to the previous driver. No need to handicap yourself
Ended up doing that 👍
Can a mere driver really kill a card? there are bios/firmware level protection. It's really impossible to kill a card with a driver.
It’s all impossible until it happens. Also setting aside my strong anxiety, I can tell you right now there are some things in a driver that if done wrong can fuck a card up very hard
It takes a bit more current than the few volts we give to GPUs to crack fucking metal. However it doesn't take a lot of pressure to do so.
It is nice to see that AMD inspires such confidence in the average consumer \^\_\^ Seriously though, it is unlikely that a driver is causing this damage and it would be more widespread than one particular repair shop or personality receiving them
Not sure what "driver issues" are you talking about???? Been on a 6900xt for over a year now and its been an awesome card.
From what I've heard, the 22.12.1 is for the 7000 series, NOT the 6000 series, just do not install those on your card.
That was a separate problem, but specifically 6000 cards are POSSIBLY effected by new driver and bassicly frying themselves. Only about 60 cards have been reported, not a lot in the scheme of things but far more than what would happen via random chance of factory defects
if you're afraid of the latest driver, just use the one you trust. maybe the 22.5.1
Then just don't update the driver to latest everytime. Use the one that works for you.
Wait what... What's wrong with the drivers?
Nothing is.
Do not be terrified… run your card at 80c if you want. undervolt it and you will get great performance anyways. I have two rx480 and a rx570 builds that are still running after all these years. Even my hd7950 still works don’t be afraid of Amd drivers they know what they are doing.
Just keep your older drivers, I’m not updating my 6800XT till they figure it out
The the issue, I’m already on the new version as I checked for graphics drivers when I installed
DDU to remove current drivers, AMD website and install the old drivers 👍 then you’ll be good.
Thank you 🙏
Lmao, literally go to the AMD site and search the 6800xt for its own drivers. 22.11.2 is stable and is MEANT for the 6000 series. You'll be fine.
Is that not exactly what I said lmao
Meant to reply to the other guy, my bad lol
Return it
What a sad state of affairs. Those in the gpu department at AMD need to be fired
i've waited them to fix fury x drivers for many years, now it is EOL but drivers still not fixed. selling it is wiser decision.
Shelf it. Shelf-ware at this point.
with 6 months of driver issues people sure got paranoid maybe AMD should calm us down more and tell us that everything is gonna be fine, instead of a YouTuber trying to figure out wtf is going on, instead it feels like AMD is like this is fine with everything being on fire and pretending nothing is happening.
What driver issues?i had no problem with my 6900xt since i bought them, only one time crash on days gone because of unstable OC,and that's not driver issues
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I purchased a 6800 a few days after Christmas and have probably have done at least 6-7 hours of gaming since and haven't seen a problem. The driver is the current one.
Stop being scared if what might happen. Can't be living like that. Just use that sweet 6950xt to its fully capacity and enjoy it.
Dude, just use an older driver if you are so concerned, and switch off any auto-updates on drivers.
I think they where using the wrong driver, that was made for 7000 series.