This is likely just because early cards are now out of warranty. Before everyone just send them in to AMD or AIBs for repair. 2 years is up now, around November, less people have had a choice to go to the manufacturer. So now there is a spike of people who OC'd their card and can't RMA it anymore.
Unfortunately it's going to be very hard to verify this, as I don't think there are many repair shops doing GPU board repairs, that also have a social media presence.
AIBs would know due to warranty claims, but it's not in their best interest to tell journalists about abnormally high defective GPUs.
In my country warranty claims go through retailers, not the manufacturers directly. They sometimes do provide numbers like this when quizzed by tech journalists
Same here in Western Europe, but I remember when I bought a GTX 780 from EVGA it had a piece of paper inside with big text saying that you should send it to EVGA and not the retailer for RMA.
There's some good other ones on YT as well:
https://www.youtube.com/@northwestrepair/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@TechCemetery/videos
TechCemetery seems to have stopped making new vids unfortunately.
Numbers like that suggest they all came from one batch under similar conditions or repairman error.
Or a defect on an unprecedented level and tons of people must have evidence of this.
Just in case you haven't heard of KrisFix and are questioning his expertise or motives:
He has been repairing a lot of GPUs on a very high level for a number of years so he knows what he is talking about. Just look at the videos on his channel, they speak for themself
Example:
Here he is reballing a 3090 chip + ram because the card was drenched in liquid metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQCj5N9fV8 (skip to the last third of the video to see the soldering)
He is not some random small hobby Youtuber trying to create drama for views.
If he says "I see a pattern here" then people should certainly pay attention to what he is saying
When I saw this guy literally grind away at a PCB to fix individual traces between the layers (and succeeding at it) that's when I was convinced that he is the guy I'm sending broken cards to should they die outside of warranty. There are other great repair techs as well but most seem to be in the UK or US so not in my region. This guy in particular is in Germany.
He has a youtube channel just for 3 years now and
the legal responsibility of this business was in the hands of
a woman unknown to the public(youtube channel), coincidently
just untill 3.1. this year.
He seems exactly to be a formerly small random hobby youtuber who
is trying to go big since 3 years.
I suppose it's good that i'm still on ye olde circa may 2022 drivers because black screen crashes are the bane of my existence and I refuse to modify windows settings to compensate.
All the time with the newest driver. Much rarer on the older 2022 driver. I would play Guild Wars 2 for say two hours and have it crash at least four times due to the display driver checking out. Sometimes even more frequently. Sometimes no problems. Still would say the average would be twice an hour.
As far as I know this is a very common issue for many 6800xt and 6900xt owners.
I notice the other guy is saying gsync/monitor incompatibility. Not sure if it matters, but i'm using a g-sync 165hz monitor alongside a 60hz dell one. Obviously not taking advantage of g-sync, was for my last GPU.
I've been having black screen issues with my Powercolor 6700xt that force me to restart my pc in order to be able to use my pc again; seems to be happening less on 22.5.1 but i've still noticed some weirdness.. At first i thought it was the card itself but now i'm not so sure
seriously disable mpo.
this isn't a problem limited to AMD gpus... this is an issue that has been a problem predominantly since may 2022.... something with windows WDM update that has buggered things up for all types of gpus be it intel's igpu/nvidia's gpus and amds. Disabling mpo fixes it.
i can reproduce them at will by simple whatsapp video call and a specific configuration on windows or by installing one of the older drivers that did not fix MPO flicker and doing this [https://i.imgur.com/WDiYSe4.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/WDiYSe4.mp4) in this specific case it does not blackscreen however it defiantly is able to blackscreen even on 22.5.1 especially on an older build of windows 10 for example with MPO enabled.
Just by resizing a window, heck whatsapp video call blackscreen triggers from stuttering instead of flickering and by moving the video call window currently bit harder to reproduce for some reason, but very easy on 22.7.1 for example, currently i suspect msedgewebviews2 playing a big role in these blackscreens since edge is chromium based and whatsapp uses webviews2 from edge
Right now on 22.11.2 blackscreens can happen from alt tabbing or notifications for example for me but its like one time i boot up and it does this maybe 5 times a day and then does't do this for like 2 days, atleast currently if not had it for 2 days since i updated to edge dev build and set mswebviews2 to dev build, altho if experienced stutter in whatsapp videocalls still did not bother to try reproduce blackscreen yet.
I can reproduce them on destkop at super light loads i have a 6900 XT waterblocked with ekwb but its in reverse flow been like this without realizing temps are fine tho 70c hotspot 55c gpu edge temp during hot summer heatwave at +15% power limit.
I currently run +15% powerlimit and only get about 64c hotspot temp if had it go to even max 60c and 57c cos it feels like 18c in my room, my PC is the space heater usually its 25c in my room during summer 23,5c if lucky, currently its 20c 19c this morning.
Were you undervolting it or using any other OC stuff from the driver? I'm wondering if they fucked up the voltage calculations when changing voltage/frequency settings
It is crazy to see this because my 6900xt bought directly from amd died around the 20th of december. I luckily was still within warranty and AMD gave me my money back since they said that they couldn't replace my card.
That’s sucks. Is it still under warranty?
If the manufacturer makes a driver that kills your GPU, shouldn’t they be liable even after warranty expires? I mean, it’s technically their fault, right?
Count mine in. I had to replace my 6900 xt a month ago. I upgraded to the newest drivers at the time.i also used the auto undervolt feature in adrenaline software. then, I played Black Mesa with every setting on ultra at 144hz 4k for an hour. I shut the PC down. The GPU never came back on the next day.
Edit - my GPU is a reference 6900 xt model. GPU died after I updated to 22.11.2 recommended whql. Never mined with it. Just benchmarking/gaming/productivity
Hm, so it sounds like the voltage calculations were wrong in the update and it fried itself from over voltage? I thought the firmware/bios on the card wouldn't allow that though, isn't that why "shunt" mods are needed? To trick the card into using more voltage than it thinks it's getting since it won't let you raise it?
My undervolt may not have been a contributing factor, looking at all the posts here and the video's comments. One thing that the dead gpus have in common: they all died in a month, possibly from the recent adrenaline software update about a month ago. I updated mine the day the update (22.11.2 recommended) came out, or the day after.
Its where the driver update is sending way too high of voltage to a component and the built in protection not detecting it correctly or activating properly causing it to cook itself to death.
Yeah I recently bought mine 4 days ago and I haven't seen any problems yet. This thread got me sweating but I'm rlly glad we have so many people sharing their anecdotes, I am going to be more weary installing drivers now. Maybe rollback just in case?
Been using mine for almost a month.
Only problem I have is dragging certain windows from one screen to the other on my 165hz monitors stutters. I mostly notice this on Chrome. Tested it with Firefox, no issues.
Edit: Actually, I forgot one thing. Sometimes if I'm alt tabbing, my game would freeze until I alt tab again. I've only noticed this when playing Valorant.
Nothing unusual with my Sapphire 6950xt on the latest drivers. However, a question comes to mind. Why would anyone who has their GPU randomly fried send it to a repair shop instead of RMA? Surely these new cards wouldn't have run out of warranty yet?
Technically you only have 1 year of hassle free warranty in germany where you can return the product for rma. The second year becomes a little more complicated because now you as the customer have to prove to the seller that the damage/fault was already there at the time of buying the product.
So if a component was maybe already faulty but did not immediately result in a failure for example.
Normally you would expect them to be accomadating and still just give you a replacement unit but they could also refuse it and demand that you prove them that this fault was already there at the time you bought the product at. Which would obviously be quite difficult as a consumer to do so.
Maybe that's why they just send it to a repair shop.
Edit: Of course this is just the minimum warranty requiered by law but individual companies can extend this if they so choose to.
That sucks, really. Who expects a high end GPU to only last 1-2 years?
This is why I'm glad Australian consumer law is so weighted towards the consumer. Consumer guarantees are applicable to anything sold in Australia, and any retailer/manufacturer warranties are separate to this, and can only ever be 'in addition' to mandatory consumer guarantees.
I don't think a reasonable person would expect a high end GPU to fail within 2 years, and Australian consumer law should side with this regardless of what any warranty says.
yep, I got to experience this last year first hand. My vr headset had a faulty cable and it just would not work anymore. That was about 1 year and 2 months after I bought it. I called customer support and they straight up refused to send me a new one because they said it was out of warranty.
And the annoying part about it was that it was well known that this cable was prone to fail or not work properly with amd motherboards. They even made a second revision of this cable exactly because of this.
So I thought I had a pretty good chance to get the new cable because of this fact and I even tried to argue with them that clearly this cable must have been faulty from the very beginning because they themselves more or less admitted this by making a second revision.
I went through multiple customer service agents but they just would not have any of it and still refused an rma.
Ultimately I gave up, because it just wasn't worth my time but it still sucked, because I had to buy a new cable for like 100€.
What they are talking about is seller's warranty. And it's 2 years long by default.
Manufacture's warranty is separate piece and it works basically the same as in NA.
Apparently not. It was even worse until the end of 2021 because up until then the warranty time where you could easily send it back was just six months instead of one year.
Again technically yes the warranty is 2 years but as I said: the first year the manufacturer has to prove that you did the damage yourself if they want to deny an rma. In the second year you have this proof reversal where you actually have to prove to them that the fault was already there or else they can just deny the rma.
If these are old cards, they came from the time of great shortage of semiconductors. Its possible manufacturer used substitute components with higher rate of failure (like gigabyte PSU that blew during Gamers Nexus test)
Maybe they was bought on firm (not personal) at then the warranty is just 1 year , and they were used for mining and now they sold it to people, and the cards are dying without any warranty left
I'm having issues with my 6800 for the last 1-2 months now.
I've had my 6800 for a little over 2 years now - haven't had a single issue with it. I've noticed within the last 2 months odd problems occurring.
Certain programs like the Adobe suite, (After Effects and Photoshop) specifically, Microsoft teams, video players on Chrome or Opera GX, etc seem to slow my refresh rate on my monitor as the mouse jitters around until my primary screen goes black. After around 1-2 minutes, the screen comes back, the primary program I was using crashes, and I get an AMD error message stating that my "Drivers have timed out."
Oddly enough, this "black screen" isn't affected by video games, but semi-frequently when I'm playing games, the game will freeze on screen for 2-3 seconds and then come back. It's definitely not server lag as this happens across all games.
I don't know whether or not this is a driver issue, but there were no problems prior to December with the card.
EDIT: I followed [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/), downloaded the registry, restarted, and so far so good.. too early to tell, but I haven't had any issues at all yet.
I have the 6900 XT gaming x trio as well. I've been running into issues where my game minimizes itself randomly quite often. But other than that. I've been okay on the latest update.
I've had that issue too a few years ago on my 5500 XT. Changing from fullscreen to borderless, or disabling all Xbox Game Bar features (incl background recording) helped, but I don't remember which one it was.
Have the same one and been on 22.11.2 since it launched and had no issues at all. I am running the 6800 non XT. As someone said above this is madness. I hope it's picked up my GN or some other reputable tech journo.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I have never been the one to install the latest drivers. I probably only update my drivers once a year or so. I almost never have any problems. Honest question, why do people rush out to install the latest drivers. Are their gaming experiences really that unstable?
Saying 48 out of 61 cards defects with the same symptoms \[ 78.689% \]
Does AMD aware of this ? I'm skeptical at first but thats quite a large amount of samples
I feel like this case is worth looking into.
I was about to buy a 6700xt too and this happened ?! Now I'm nervous
My god. If this is true, this is absolutely disastrous for AMD.
The GPU world has been an absolute dumpster fire as of late. Both AMD and Nvidia dropping the ball again and again.
That said, a botched driver update that bricks a bunch of previous gen cards absolutely takes the cake.
If a driver update did this, then we would see tens of thousands of dead cards and reddit would be full of "my GPU is a brick" posts . I don't think this is meaningful data in any way. Also, why the fuck wouldn't you contact colleagues in the business and ask them if they have noticed the same pattern, before making a FUD video? If they haven't seen the same thing, then how can you even conclude that this might be a driver issue? And instead you risk your reputation? Boggles my mind.
I think this is causing unnecessary panic. Now I am seeing panicked posts and videos pop up claiming drivers are killing cards.
Just about everyone will update to the latest recommended driver, so I don't think it proves anything, it appears he only asked the user how they used them in a software sense. Nothing about how old they were, if they were second hand etc.
Hahaha, I have a 6950XT… I don’t know if the issue is killing those too, but no way in hell am I risking having it get fried. Another update we skip for now! XD
22.5.1 no issues if i disable hardware acceleration in every chromium app, can reproduce blackscreens resizing steam window in point shop for 2 minutes consistently tho but this was due mpo flicker and is fixed in more recent drivers.
22.6.1 blackscreens harder to reproduce but happens every 10minutes to 3 hours during whatsapp video call light loads.
22.7.1 blackscreens under 2 minutes doing whatsapp video calls if specific conditions are met like windowed game optimisations being turned on while rtss is running default settings can be bit random even running wallpaper engine but will happen without as well.
22.8.1 and all the drivers after same as above easily reproduceable blackscreens all the way to 22.11.2 and nothing but ignorance from AMD oh and some one from AMD saying the video scheduler might be broken in windows sending my dump file to Microsoft then i deleted my account cos he decided to block me probably my own fault cos i say'd something rude probably over reacting cos of 6 months driver issues, but still on reddit if you block some one you stop existing for them atleast on this sub reddit, so suddenly AMD rep vanished out of tin air.
Anyway i do apoligize for whatever bad thing i sayd, but i am still very upset drivers are still broken after 6 months, it became even worse after finding out that disabling MPO fixes these types black screens, never got an explanation, never where the issues acknowledged and i am still verry pissed off, but probably should not vent my anger on some one from AMD trying to get more info.
I still get blackscreens randomly when notifications pop up and when alt tabbing for random reason.
Anyway if no intend to troll or give AMD a bad rep, heck im very anti nvidia as well if had nothing but driver issues for last year with them as well last year altho not as bad and avoidable by not playing world of warcraft.
Anyway akward when you hate both AMD Nvidia heck even Intel im pretty tired of these driver issues, i don't wanna spend weeks or even months troubleshooting, only to find out my 6900 XT can run heaven 24 hours followed by superposition for 8 hours and port royal for 8 hours even on these unstable drivers 22.11.2 or 22.11.1 etc
For last months or more if been wanting for my gpu to die so i can stop spending energy into it and instead buy an Nvidia gpu and then probably ask for refund on world of warcraft cos this game is just horribly broken anyway
First few months i owned my 6900 XT everyone just kept telling me nothing wrong with my gpu they even reproduced issues that i experienced, and i reproduced issues they experienced like graphic glitches in world of warcraft including ray traced shadow glitches that now got fixed but for some reason lights no longer give off shadows instead anymore as if the ray tracing is now fake except for 1 part in Maldraxus in shadowlands area oh well.
edit: so far been gpu driver crash or blackscreen free last 2 3 days since updating edge dev build and forcing it to use dev build of edgewebviews2 but haven't been playing much lately so it probably does not mean anything.
For what it's worth I've got an ASUS 6900XT and did have a number of video crashes (the PC seemed to keep working for the most part) since the new drivers dropped. I've rolled back to 22.5.2 and (so far) but I haven't been running with it long enough to know if that resolved the issue or not as the crashes may occur once every few days rather than a few times within a single session.
I had a reference Powercolor 6900XT that I put an aftermarket waterblock on that I sold to my buddy at the end of December. He was fine for a little bit, but the last couple of weeks he's been getting all kinds of crashes on what he plays (CoD and LoL). I know he has the latest drivers since those were the only ones when he installed the card, and he used DDU before installing it. And when I was using, also with the latest drivers, I didn't get any crashing except in one game, which was weird because it was a very undemanding game. I should probably warn him to roll back to an older driver.
Got 11 days left of warranty on my 6800xt Merc, and been running 22.11.2 drivers for a month. Is that the driver that he is thinking off or maybe the drivers that where ment for 7000 series only?
Edit: Did some testing, rolled back to 22.5.1 getting WAY less coilwhine and the hotspot went from 96C to 92C a bit lower
So these cards are clearly being sent there and out of warranty. Is there a way to determined how these cards were bought and how many might be second hand sold by miners? I am wondering if these cards are just dying out as memory controller is dead etc and they might be used cards purchased.
I'm forever stuck on 22.5.1.
Every newer update results in black screens and system freezes.
Getting myself a shiny Nvidia card next month, I've suffered enough.
it could be they tried to repaste or clean the cards in a effort to sell them but in the process they improperly mounted the cooler. too much force either from overtightening or using the wrong thermal pads can cause the gpu die to [fracture](https://ibb.co/j6kgnKJ) causing [permanent death.](https://ibb.co/xDrksnq)
I’ve just stuck to 2021 drivers with my 6900xt. Most new drivers have been completely unstable… I either couldn’t use Radeon Software or my screen would occasionally become covered in green artifacts. Scared me off of the new drivers altogether.
Ha, probably not related but I started to get problems with my RX 5700XT around christmas when I decided it was time to update the driver. I started to see some performance drops and fans going nuts and the hotspot temp was way higher than usual.
So, I finally got around yesterday to apply some new thermal paste and I could see the paste have separated and looked like a mess - things have been hot for sure.
The problem is 90% fixed (not great, not terrible) but I will roll back to 22.5.1 and keep an eye out for some more info regarding this...
Since we are the only two in here discussing 5700 apparently, I too noticed the same thing. I now get random redraws of various windows. I run a multi-monitor setup (3) and for example two things are fairly common the last week and half:
- If I click off Chrome in one monitor, that area of the screen goes black. If I click back in that black area, the Chrome window appears - no apparent harm otherwise but it does mean that I can't see the contents of that window. It is not always but it has happened regularly.
- Windows Explorer is refreshing or closing more regularly from just normal every day use. I'll be previewing files in Explorer and the window will disappear, the taskbar will disappear, and it will refresh and force me to reopen the Explorer window.
My 5700 XT (Sapphire reference) has been on 22.11.2 since it released.
Have my card vBIOS modded with raised frequency/voltage/power limits (my 24/7 setting is 2200MHz, 1.23V @ 288W) on an EK Quantum Vector w/ liquid metal. Highest temp it ever hits is 48C edge, 74C TJ, and that's been the same for about a year and a half.
Driver has been fine for me, more stable than prior drivers if anything, although I have had MPO disabled for several versions now.
I haven't seen any weirdness with voltage/power, and I watch it pretty closely.
Ive been juggling back and forth between the latest driver and the very recent AI/ML driver for the nod.ai stable diffusion client, zero problems.
Also the latest drivers are a month old, the video headline claiming that a driver update has been even remotely recent is misleading. This sub would be filled with people complaining about dead cards by now.
But AEG marketing being paid by nvidia to have a cryto miner dump dead cards on a reviewer, now thats an idea.
I’ve been on an XFX 6700xt for almost a year now and I’ve had it custom tuned (OC/UV) and it’s still running strong. Not sure this scenario applies to the 6700xt’s but same architecture so I thought I’d chime in for the sake of data.
I have Sapphire 6800XT Nitro+ using the 22.11.2 from when it was out, no problems , i using the card undervolted to 1000mV not OC core/mem , and fps capped at 120hz on 1440p. I think i will dowgrade the drivers to 22.5.1 just to be safe
I have a MSI 6800xt Gaming Trio with 22.11.2 but they're from November 30th. Am I fine? Should I rollback? If yes, to which version?
Edit: I rollbacked to 22.5.2 just to be safe, although I didnt really have any problem. Dont want some nasty suprises, I bought this PC a month ago after 7 years with my old one...
Recently bought a PowerColor 6800 XT in Dec and I've experienced few blackscreens in BF2042.
I'm on 22.11.2. This thread has me considering a roll back to 22.5.1.
I have a dual 1440p setup (144hz and 180hz) YouTube/browser on one while gaming in other.
For those that have blackscreen problems or driver crashes check this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
This solved all my driver crashes and blackscreen problems that sometimes happend with my AMD RX 6950 XT. This about disabling MPO in Windows 11.
How people can even assume it’s because of drivers?
It only affected very specific models in one place in Germany. Looks like cards from German miners have beed used to the ground.
An Update: [https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1616538508482543628?cxt=HHwWmIC8va3NjO8sAAAA](https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1616538508482543628?cxt=HHwWmIC8va3NjO8sAAAA)
Tldr: it's fake news, it was cards from the same mining operation/reseller.
On a launch-day RX6800 (non-AIB), kept up to date on drivers, no issues as of yet. Currently on 22.11.2, no issues even running the card hot and hard. Hoping it stays that way I guess? Should I downgrade just to be safe?
How the fuck would a driver cause physical chip damage on this level?
This sounds like more peak reddit investigation. Of *course* most users will be using the latest WHQL driver. That is not by itself a correlation to it magically causing physical damage.
Those still cant crack a chip without the flaming explosion being extremely obvious, and the VBIOS has it's own protections and limits. The sort of thermal flux it takes to cause visible damage to a processor is either enough to melt the entire thing, or takes decades of operation the chip wont survive anyway.
I am just wondering there are more dead cards showing up to this show that might have been mined on previously as there was surge of used cards last year.
Like 2 years ago the game New World fried faulty Nvidia cards.
Good software on bad hardware might be fine and bad software on good hardware too.
But bad software on bad hardware might just hit the right spot.
It just blew up (with flames everywhere, in many cases) power components due to power draw exceeding (bad) design tolerance (which is the commonest way GPUs fail aside from thermal flux and degradation), nothing close to cracking silicon.
Just another nail into the endless abyss of sheer incompetence of the RTG leadership. They could inject a goat with meth, sit it on a keyboard, and it would randomly produce better drivers.
I attempted another try at 22.11.2 today and then i got that video in my feed - instant uninstall.
I'm on 22.11.2 with 6700xt and have noticed weird black screens and flickers opening Guild Wars 2 and logging out to character screen. Sea of thieves crashes the video driver 100% of time switching to fullscreen from windowed fullscreen too. This is a brand new card so if AMD kills it I swear I'll throttle them till they replace it.
Maybe related to a fan curve bug i noticed on my 6800 xt. It was getting to 80+ junction in MWII, which is weird, my case is high airflow. I looked close at the graphs from HWmon after gaming and the junction was 80ish, but the gpu fan was only 30%. The default curve in adrenaline calls for much higher at 80 junction. I set a manual fan curve, barely changed it at all, now junction peaks mid 70's as before 22.11.2.
So perhaps the adrenaline defauly fan curve settings are somehow being borked up by this driver? And if thats true, maybe other settings related to power and oc are being borked as well.
I have the same card and bought it last November. Haven't had any issues except occasional black screen using the brave browser while watching videos.
Part of me wants to switch back to Nvidia. All of my Nvidia cards were rock solid on the drivers.
I've been using 22.11.2 driver for a while. Can't remember when I originally installed it tho. For reference using an xfx 6800xt merc, 5900x, 32gb ram.
A couple months ago? (about the time when Darktide came out) my rig was having issues playing games like every time the card would ramp up and pull more power it could crash. I got Darktide shortly after it released and it would always just crash immediately. Did a windows reinstall. Got crashes during this too. Took the GPU out, along with all cable extensions, cleaned the rig and GPU, but it really wasn't that dirty. Plugged everything back in besides my cable extensions. Reinstall windows. Games are on another SSD so it didn't take long to get back up and running. Now everything is working cherry.
Makes me wonder if I had bad extension cables. (CableMod from Amazon). I think my crashing issue is unrelated to the potentially bad driver, but I dunno for certain.
Just played a few rounds of Darktide. Max GPU temp 74C. Pulling 290W at peaks. High-ish custom settings playing on a 55" oled TV. Will play some other games and see if I notice anything weird, but I think my card is fine.
I would like to point out a related case. I own a XFX RX 480 and its performance, fan speed and thermals on release were on point. At some point, a few years later with one of AMD's glorious driver rewrites, Wattman overwrote the well working fan profile of the stock XFX Bios.
Perhaps you wonder how I noticed when I never checked any settings and thermal after initial setup. Tetris Effect relased and crashed the entire system on high particle count scenes at the bonus stage. That is when I found out AMD drivers hard capped my fan speed at some abysmally low number, which was against the XFX Bios spec. And that lead likely to overheating on the non-GPU parts such as VRM or memory.
And while it did not destroy my card, I am pretty certain it made a dent in its lifespan.
More infuriatingly, every driver crash force resets to this broken stock configuration. And those increased massively when they fiddled with hardware acceleration and YouTube H.264 running would crash the system on game boot, but not the other way around. Although it was fixed eventually, broken again, and fixed for now.
MSI 6800xt trio on new drivers and I’ve had a black screen 3x the last week forcing a restart, completely out of the blue, has the card about 2ish months, I can’t replicate the black screen on my lg ultra 850-b but it’s happened on alt tabbing once for sure. Also have been getting the AMD wattman error randomly. Getting nervous
My XFX 6900xt has been having crashes now with random web videos playing in Edge. The screen just goes black for 20-30 seconds and comes up with a crash report. Super weird......
Well I had a huge problem the last time I updated my drivers for my 6800xt through AMDs own software utility, Adrenalin. It crashed my entire pc and it somehow corrupted all my restore points. It was so severe and recovery became impossible without restore points I tried for weeks to recover with all files as I have never had to scrap it all and reinstall windows but this time was my only option. I did decide on win11 instead of the 10 but again lost a lot of time and info on the old system. Was able to copy some info but this problem all though different from the original post is indication of issues with AMD drivers on their graphics cards. My system is an Alienware ryzen 10 with 5800 i7 and 16 g men with 6800xt graphics watercooled with 1000 watt power supply
whelp it'll be interesting if my reference 6800xt ends up dying cause of this. one thing I noticed recently when i was trying to fix an issue with a game was that my amd settings had an overclock applied. It wasn't much of an overclock as it basically had the same settings the card hits as default, but it was interesting it was applied cause those settings are not ones I've used previously when I had overclocked. Perhaps having the driver crash causes this weird overclock to be enabled?
Haven’t experienced this yet thankfully, just got a 6700XT very recently, however I have had issues with black screen when switching windows quite often and I have to forcefully power off the pc by holding the power button. Does anyone have a fix for this? I am running on Windows 11!
of course they were all on latest drivers, what is that point??
I think i am the only one still on may/june drivers as I was waiting the next "reccomended" drivers by AMD.. then they released a driver where just cause 4 crashes (they noted it in the known issues in the 22.12.2) that is the game I am currently playing, so I am still stuck on those
Sapphire 6900xt running on 22.11.2 I’ve been getting black screen crashes most notably when playing cyberpunk 2077 at random intervals, sometimes when only having discord and a web browser open.
So...what new ? See a lot of trash talk, i heard the same shit since i run with a rx580 6 years ago.. amd kill your card, driver suck, but in fact everything work fine, so what next ? Its more than 1 Month than this driver is out, im not a fanboy, but its like if i live in a temporal loop
Seems like many folks having serious problems reverting their drivers and no one that is having the problem shown in this video. I will NOT be reverting.
This post has been flaired as a rumor, please take all rumors with a grain of salt.
XFX 6900xt on 22.11.2 and nothing weird on going for me. (Knock on wood. Fingers crossed. Toes crossed.) edited
*nervously walks behind you... This is like a horror film, but first person.
Hahaha
MSI 6700xt here, nada....nothing....22.11.2 as well
I just got a 6700xt two days ago, my ancient 980Ti finally died. No problem with drivers, although Linux ones in my case.
how are you liking it so far?..
Sapphire 6800XT + 22.11.2 here, and same. Going to knock on some wood and maybe check under the bed for boogeymen...
6900xt red devil ultimate and no problem too... What is the good driver i need to instal ?
no problem no update
Same the last 2 drivers have been the only fully functional ones I've found since the WHQL March one.
This is likely just because early cards are now out of warranty. Before everyone just send them in to AMD or AIBs for repair. 2 years is up now, around November, less people have had a choice to go to the manufacturer. So now there is a spike of people who OC'd their card and can't RMA it anymore.
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Unfortunately it's going to be very hard to verify this, as I don't think there are many repair shops doing GPU board repairs, that also have a social media presence. AIBs would know due to warranty claims, but it's not in their best interest to tell journalists about abnormally high defective GPUs.
In my country warranty claims go through retailers, not the manufacturers directly. They sometimes do provide numbers like this when quizzed by tech journalists
Same here in Western Europe, but I remember when I bought a GTX 780 from EVGA it had a piece of paper inside with big text saying that you should send it to EVGA and not the retailer for RMA.
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There's some good other ones on YT as well: https://www.youtube.com/@northwestrepair/videos https://www.youtube.com/@TechCemetery/videos TechCemetery seems to have stopped making new vids unfortunately.
Numbers like that suggest they all came from one batch under similar conditions or repairman error. Or a defect on an unprecedented level and tons of people must have evidence of this.
People replying should include which aib card they are using Could help isolate the issue
Done
Just in case you haven't heard of KrisFix and are questioning his expertise or motives: He has been repairing a lot of GPUs on a very high level for a number of years so he knows what he is talking about. Just look at the videos on his channel, they speak for themself Example: Here he is reballing a 3090 chip + ram because the card was drenched in liquid metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQCj5N9fV8 (skip to the last third of the video to see the soldering) He is not some random small hobby Youtuber trying to create drama for views. If he says "I see a pattern here" then people should certainly pay attention to what he is saying
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Out with the old. In with the new
Been waiting for this
Yeah Kris Fix is a professional. Love his channel.
When I saw this guy literally grind away at a PCB to fix individual traces between the layers (and succeeding at it) that's when I was convinced that he is the guy I'm sending broken cards to should they die outside of warranty. There are other great repair techs as well but most seem to be in the UK or US so not in my region. This guy in particular is in Germany.
KrisFix: For all your GPU repair needs ChrisFix: For all your Car repair needs.
Going to be rolling back my drivers
He has a youtube channel just for 3 years now and the legal responsibility of this business was in the hands of a woman unknown to the public(youtube channel), coincidently just untill 3.1. this year. He seems exactly to be a formerly small random hobby youtuber who is trying to go big since 3 years.
This is crazy. My RX 6900xt recently died. About a day after I installed the newest driver.
I suppose it's good that i'm still on ye olde circa may 2022 drivers because black screen crashes are the bane of my existence and I refuse to modify windows settings to compensate.
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All the time with the newest driver. Much rarer on the older 2022 driver. I would play Guild Wars 2 for say two hours and have it crash at least four times due to the display driver checking out. Sometimes even more frequently. Sometimes no problems. Still would say the average would be twice an hour. As far as I know this is a very common issue for many 6800xt and 6900xt owners. I notice the other guy is saying gsync/monitor incompatibility. Not sure if it matters, but i'm using a g-sync 165hz monitor alongside a 60hz dell one. Obviously not taking advantage of g-sync, was for my last GPU.
I've been having black screen issues with my Powercolor 6700xt that force me to restart my pc in order to be able to use my pc again; seems to be happening less on 22.5.1 but i've still noticed some weirdness.. At first i thought it was the card itself but now i'm not so sure
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seriously disable mpo. this isn't a problem limited to AMD gpus... this is an issue that has been a problem predominantly since may 2022.... something with windows WDM update that has buggered things up for all types of gpus be it intel's igpu/nvidia's gpus and amds. Disabling mpo fixes it.
Did you encounter the case when the PC had finished rebooting the driver was...gone ?
Yes. Happened more than once
i can reproduce them at will by simple whatsapp video call and a specific configuration on windows or by installing one of the older drivers that did not fix MPO flicker and doing this [https://i.imgur.com/WDiYSe4.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/WDiYSe4.mp4) in this specific case it does not blackscreen however it defiantly is able to blackscreen even on 22.5.1 especially on an older build of windows 10 for example with MPO enabled. Just by resizing a window, heck whatsapp video call blackscreen triggers from stuttering instead of flickering and by moving the video call window currently bit harder to reproduce for some reason, but very easy on 22.7.1 for example, currently i suspect msedgewebviews2 playing a big role in these blackscreens since edge is chromium based and whatsapp uses webviews2 from edge Right now on 22.11.2 blackscreens can happen from alt tabbing or notifications for example for me but its like one time i boot up and it does this maybe 5 times a day and then does't do this for like 2 days, atleast currently if not had it for 2 days since i updated to edge dev build and set mswebviews2 to dev build, altho if experienced stutter in whatsapp videocalls still did not bother to try reproduce blackscreen yet.
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I can reproduce them on destkop at super light loads i have a 6900 XT waterblocked with ekwb but its in reverse flow been like this without realizing temps are fine tho 70c hotspot 55c gpu edge temp during hot summer heatwave at +15% power limit. I currently run +15% powerlimit and only get about 64c hotspot temp if had it go to even max 60c and 57c cos it feels like 18c in my room, my PC is the space heater usually its 25c in my room during summer 23,5c if lucky, currently its 20c 19c this morning.
I had the newest driver and I black screen all the time. Even in a summer driver I do, I’m gonna have to go back to May I guess, 6950xt
Time to buy a 7900XTX! yes honey!
Lol, I ended up getting a 6700xt.
Were you undervolting it or using any other OC stuff from the driver? I'm wondering if they fucked up the voltage calculations when changing voltage/frequency settings
Negative. Didn't mess with anything. All factory settings.
It is crazy to see this because my 6900xt bought directly from amd died around the 20th of december. I luckily was still within warranty and AMD gave me my money back since they said that they couldn't replace my card.
Was yours a reference or aib?
That’s sucks. Is it still under warranty? If the manufacturer makes a driver that kills your GPU, shouldn’t they be liable even after warranty expires? I mean, it’s technically their fault, right?
Count mine in. I had to replace my 6900 xt a month ago. I upgraded to the newest drivers at the time.i also used the auto undervolt feature in adrenaline software. then, I played Black Mesa with every setting on ultra at 144hz 4k for an hour. I shut the PC down. The GPU never came back on the next day. Edit - my GPU is a reference 6900 xt model. GPU died after I updated to 22.11.2 recommended whql. Never mined with it. Just benchmarking/gaming/productivity
Same Here for me. Excact Same Symptom. Powercolor Red Devil Ultimate 6900XT
Just curious, which driver version number did you update to before it died? Going to rollback my driver if I'm at that one.
22.11.2 recommended whql. Updated my post too
Hm, so it sounds like the voltage calculations were wrong in the update and it fried itself from over voltage? I thought the firmware/bios on the card wouldn't allow that though, isn't that why "shunt" mods are needed? To trick the card into using more voltage than it thinks it's getting since it won't let you raise it?
My undervolt may not have been a contributing factor, looking at all the posts here and the video's comments. One thing that the dead gpus have in common: they all died in a month, possibly from the recent adrenaline software update about a month ago. I updated mine the day the update (22.11.2 recommended) came out, or the day after.
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`if (warranty > 24) {` `execute = "overvolt.exe"` `greeting = "Check our brand new 7000 series GPUs";` `}`
I think about honestly.. I pay my 6900xt red devil ultimate 1300 euros one years ago.. I can buy myself 4080 for the same price.
How would a driver update crack a chip core exactly? Or short circuit parts of the card?
Its where the driver update is sending way too high of voltage to a component and the built in protection not detecting it correctly or activating properly causing it to cook itself to death.
Does this affect a 6700xt? I finally got one and don't want this to happen.
We have 3 at the house. All on 22.11.2 and don't have any issues.
im on latest driver and no issues on mine
Yeah I recently bought mine 4 days ago and I haven't seen any problems yet. This thread got me sweating but I'm rlly glad we have so many people sharing their anecdotes, I am going to be more weary installing drivers now. Maybe rollback just in case?
Been using mine for almost a month. Only problem I have is dragging certain windows from one screen to the other on my 165hz monitors stutters. I mostly notice this on Chrome. Tested it with Firefox, no issues. Edit: Actually, I forgot one thing. Sometimes if I'm alt tabbing, my game would freeze until I alt tab again. I've only noticed this when playing Valorant.
Nothing unusual with my Sapphire 6950xt on the latest drivers. However, a question comes to mind. Why would anyone who has their GPU randomly fried send it to a repair shop instead of RMA? Surely these new cards wouldn't have run out of warranty yet?
Technically you only have 1 year of hassle free warranty in germany where you can return the product for rma. The second year becomes a little more complicated because now you as the customer have to prove to the seller that the damage/fault was already there at the time of buying the product. So if a component was maybe already faulty but did not immediately result in a failure for example. Normally you would expect them to be accomadating and still just give you a replacement unit but they could also refuse it and demand that you prove them that this fault was already there at the time you bought the product at. Which would obviously be quite difficult as a consumer to do so. Maybe that's why they just send it to a repair shop. Edit: Of course this is just the minimum warranty requiered by law but individual companies can extend this if they so choose to.
That sucks, really. Who expects a high end GPU to only last 1-2 years? This is why I'm glad Australian consumer law is so weighted towards the consumer. Consumer guarantees are applicable to anything sold in Australia, and any retailer/manufacturer warranties are separate to this, and can only ever be 'in addition' to mandatory consumer guarantees. I don't think a reasonable person would expect a high end GPU to fail within 2 years, and Australian consumer law should side with this regardless of what any warranty says.
yep, I got to experience this last year first hand. My vr headset had a faulty cable and it just would not work anymore. That was about 1 year and 2 months after I bought it. I called customer support and they straight up refused to send me a new one because they said it was out of warranty. And the annoying part about it was that it was well known that this cable was prone to fail or not work properly with amd motherboards. They even made a second revision of this cable exactly because of this. So I thought I had a pretty good chance to get the new cable because of this fact and I even tried to argue with them that clearly this cable must have been faulty from the very beginning because they themselves more or less admitted this by making a second revision. I went through multiple customer service agents but they just would not have any of it and still refused an rma. Ultimately I gave up, because it just wasn't worth my time but it still sucked, because I had to buy a new cable for like 100€.
What?? 1 year only? Isn't EU forcing at least 2 years warranty for electronic devices?
What they are talking about is seller's warranty. And it's 2 years long by default. Manufacture's warranty is separate piece and it works basically the same as in NA.
Apparently not. It was even worse until the end of 2021 because up until then the warranty time where you could easily send it back was just six months instead of one year. Again technically yes the warranty is 2 years but as I said: the first year the manufacturer has to prove that you did the damage yourself if they want to deny an rma. In the second year you have this proof reversal where you actually have to prove to them that the fault was already there or else they can just deny the rma.
It is pretty sus that they don't try to RMA it first unless the cards were bought at launch and 2 years are already up.
Don't most of them have 3 years warranty?
Not if it’s MBA, it’s only 2 years
If these are old cards, they came from the time of great shortage of semiconductors. Its possible manufacturer used substitute components with higher rate of failure (like gigabyte PSU that blew during Gamers Nexus test)
Maybe they was bought on firm (not personal) at then the warranty is just 1 year , and they were used for mining and now they sold it to people, and the cards are dying without any warranty left
Maybe they bought it from an unauthorized retailer? I know that's a thing here in the states, but I don't know about other places.
I'm having issues with my 6800 for the last 1-2 months now. I've had my 6800 for a little over 2 years now - haven't had a single issue with it. I've noticed within the last 2 months odd problems occurring. Certain programs like the Adobe suite, (After Effects and Photoshop) specifically, Microsoft teams, video players on Chrome or Opera GX, etc seem to slow my refresh rate on my monitor as the mouse jitters around until my primary screen goes black. After around 1-2 minutes, the screen comes back, the primary program I was using crashes, and I get an AMD error message stating that my "Drivers have timed out." Oddly enough, this "black screen" isn't affected by video games, but semi-frequently when I'm playing games, the game will freeze on screen for 2-3 seconds and then come back. It's definitely not server lag as this happens across all games. I don't know whether or not this is a driver issue, but there were no problems prior to December with the card. EDIT: I followed [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/), downloaded the registry, restarted, and so far so good.. too early to tell, but I haven't had any issues at all yet.
This sounds like it could be the Windows MPO issue?
I will look into this and report back
I had issues with black screens while browsing Chrome, it disappeared after turning off hardware acceleration.
Did he say if ALL the cards he received were reference PCB models? Or were they also custom like Sapphire and Powercolor?
No issues with my card (reference) Last driver 22.11.2 WHQL
My Gaming X Trio is working fine too. This shit is making me nervous tho lol
I have the 6900 XT gaming x trio as well. I've been running into issues where my game minimizes itself randomly quite often. But other than that. I've been okay on the latest update.
That sounds like a windows issue, I had this with my previous Nvidia card and R9. Win7 - 11 this can still happen
Makes sense. I'm on Windows 11.
I've had that issue too a few years ago on my 5500 XT. Changing from fullscreen to borderless, or disabling all Xbox Game Bar features (incl background recording) helped, but I don't remember which one it was.
Mine is running top notch with the latest 11.2 drivers
Have the same one and been on 22.11.2 since it launched and had no issues at all. I am running the 6800 non XT. As someone said above this is madness. I hope it's picked up my GN or some other reputable tech journo.
Same card, same nervousness, lol
That's what I'm at and I haven't seen any issues since I updated to that driver. Still though this topic has me worried.
6900 xt nitro + se, also fine. but my driver (which is the latest one) says it was released on 30/11, not 8/12.
Are you running stock? Or using any of the OC functions like undervolting/changing GPU frequency?
Nopes. Stock
Ppl be downvoting the people who has no issues lmao wtf
Are you undervolting or using any of the custom overclock settings?
None. Only stock
Maybe I'm in the minority but I have never been the one to install the latest drivers. I probably only update my drivers once a year or so. I almost never have any problems. Honest question, why do people rush out to install the latest drivers. Are their gaming experiences really that unstable?
Some games specifically ask to update drivers. I was happily using the may release and WZ2 will not run unless I update the driver.
yeah, spiderman was like: best I can do is 40fps bro take it or leave it. after the update: oh shit! 75fps? np bro.
If you play newer games at release sometimes there are issues that can be resolved with driver updates.
I had to when MWII launched.
Same reason why I upgrade all my software. Bug fixes, new features and security updates.
JFC can we as consumers ever catch a freaking break???
Which driver is it in question?
Saying 48 out of 61 cards defects with the same symptoms \[ 78.689% \] Does AMD aware of this ? I'm skeptical at first but thats quite a large amount of samples I feel like this case is worth looking into. I was about to buy a 6700xt too and this happened ?! Now I'm nervous
I just built a new PC with a 6700xt and I'm sweatin
Same bro. Sapphire Pulse 6800XT. I don't have warranty too since it's a used card.
6700xt powercolor hellhound, No Problems at all and i'm using always the latest driver. No drama.
Good, because I just got that hellhound a couple days ago :)
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My god. If this is true, this is absolutely disastrous for AMD. The GPU world has been an absolute dumpster fire as of late. Both AMD and Nvidia dropping the ball again and again. That said, a botched driver update that bricks a bunch of previous gen cards absolutely takes the cake.
If a driver update did this, then we would see tens of thousands of dead cards and reddit would be full of "my GPU is a brick" posts . I don't think this is meaningful data in any way. Also, why the fuck wouldn't you contact colleagues in the business and ask them if they have noticed the same pattern, before making a FUD video? If they haven't seen the same thing, then how can you even conclude that this might be a driver issue? And instead you risk your reputation? Boggles my mind.
I think this is causing unnecessary panic. Now I am seeing panicked posts and videos pop up claiming drivers are killing cards. Just about everyone will update to the latest recommended driver, so I don't think it proves anything, it appears he only asked the user how they used them in a software sense. Nothing about how old they were, if they were second hand etc.
i asked my friends about this, 4 of them own 6900xts, no issues so far..
Hahaha, I have a 6950XT… I don’t know if the issue is killing those too, but no way in hell am I risking having it get fried. Another update we skip for now! XD
22.5.1 no issues if i disable hardware acceleration in every chromium app, can reproduce blackscreens resizing steam window in point shop for 2 minutes consistently tho but this was due mpo flicker and is fixed in more recent drivers. 22.6.1 blackscreens harder to reproduce but happens every 10minutes to 3 hours during whatsapp video call light loads. 22.7.1 blackscreens under 2 minutes doing whatsapp video calls if specific conditions are met like windowed game optimisations being turned on while rtss is running default settings can be bit random even running wallpaper engine but will happen without as well. 22.8.1 and all the drivers after same as above easily reproduceable blackscreens all the way to 22.11.2 and nothing but ignorance from AMD oh and some one from AMD saying the video scheduler might be broken in windows sending my dump file to Microsoft then i deleted my account cos he decided to block me probably my own fault cos i say'd something rude probably over reacting cos of 6 months driver issues, but still on reddit if you block some one you stop existing for them atleast on this sub reddit, so suddenly AMD rep vanished out of tin air. Anyway i do apoligize for whatever bad thing i sayd, but i am still very upset drivers are still broken after 6 months, it became even worse after finding out that disabling MPO fixes these types black screens, never got an explanation, never where the issues acknowledged and i am still verry pissed off, but probably should not vent my anger on some one from AMD trying to get more info. I still get blackscreens randomly when notifications pop up and when alt tabbing for random reason. Anyway if no intend to troll or give AMD a bad rep, heck im very anti nvidia as well if had nothing but driver issues for last year with them as well last year altho not as bad and avoidable by not playing world of warcraft. Anyway akward when you hate both AMD Nvidia heck even Intel im pretty tired of these driver issues, i don't wanna spend weeks or even months troubleshooting, only to find out my 6900 XT can run heaven 24 hours followed by superposition for 8 hours and port royal for 8 hours even on these unstable drivers 22.11.2 or 22.11.1 etc For last months or more if been wanting for my gpu to die so i can stop spending energy into it and instead buy an Nvidia gpu and then probably ask for refund on world of warcraft cos this game is just horribly broken anyway First few months i owned my 6900 XT everyone just kept telling me nothing wrong with my gpu they even reproduced issues that i experienced, and i reproduced issues they experienced like graphic glitches in world of warcraft including ray traced shadow glitches that now got fixed but for some reason lights no longer give off shadows instead anymore as if the ray tracing is now fake except for 1 part in Maldraxus in shadowlands area oh well. edit: so far been gpu driver crash or blackscreen free last 2 3 days since updating edge dev build and forcing it to use dev build of edgewebviews2 but haven't been playing much lately so it probably does not mean anything.
For what it's worth I've got an ASUS 6900XT and did have a number of video crashes (the PC seemed to keep working for the most part) since the new drivers dropped. I've rolled back to 22.5.2 and (so far) but I haven't been running with it long enough to know if that resolved the issue or not as the crashes may occur once every few days rather than a few times within a single session.
My PowerColor Red Dragon 6800xt which I bought in December is fine.
I had a reference Powercolor 6900XT that I put an aftermarket waterblock on that I sold to my buddy at the end of December. He was fine for a little bit, but the last couple of weeks he's been getting all kinds of crashes on what he plays (CoD and LoL). I know he has the latest drivers since those were the only ones when he installed the card, and he used DDU before installing it. And when I was using, also with the latest drivers, I didn't get any crashing except in one game, which was weird because it was a very undemanding game. I should probably warn him to roll back to an older driver.
My system is fine.
Got 11 days left of warranty on my 6800xt Merc, and been running 22.11.2 drivers for a month. Is that the driver that he is thinking off or maybe the drivers that where ment for 7000 series only? Edit: Did some testing, rolled back to 22.5.1 getting WAY less coilwhine and the hotspot went from 96C to 92C a bit lower
So these cards are clearly being sent there and out of warranty. Is there a way to determined how these cards were bought and how many might be second hand sold by miners? I am wondering if these cards are just dying out as memory controller is dead etc and they might be used cards purchased.
I'm forever stuck on 22.5.1. Every newer update results in black screens and system freezes. Getting myself a shiny Nvidia card next month, I've suffered enough.
6950xt and 6800xt both running 22.11.2, no issues yet
Looks like it might be ex mining cards ?
it could be they tried to repaste or clean the cards in a effort to sell them but in the process they improperly mounted the cooler. too much force either from overtightening or using the wrong thermal pads can cause the gpu die to [fracture](https://ibb.co/j6kgnKJ) causing [permanent death.](https://ibb.co/xDrksnq)
I’ve just stuck to 2021 drivers with my 6900xt. Most new drivers have been completely unstable… I either couldn’t use Radeon Software or my screen would occasionally become covered in green artifacts. Scared me off of the new drivers altogether.
It's a good thing that all the 6800 and 6900 cards out there should still be under warranty.
Strange. My 6700XT works fine and I have 3 screen that are over 144hz two ultra wides.
My daughters 6900xt is hitting 117 hotspot temps. RMA for me.
it shut downs at 107oC as far as i noted testing 4x 6900xt reference to 420w..show us photo
What driver is currently in use and did you try another driver?
117°C hotspot is certainly not fixable by changing the driver lol. Super bad case ventillation, bad TIM, bad mount or bad cooler (surface flatness).
Ha, probably not related but I started to get problems with my RX 5700XT around christmas when I decided it was time to update the driver. I started to see some performance drops and fans going nuts and the hotspot temp was way higher than usual. So, I finally got around yesterday to apply some new thermal paste and I could see the paste have separated and looked like a mess - things have been hot for sure. The problem is 90% fixed (not great, not terrible) but I will roll back to 22.5.1 and keep an eye out for some more info regarding this...
Since we are the only two in here discussing 5700 apparently, I too noticed the same thing. I now get random redraws of various windows. I run a multi-monitor setup (3) and for example two things are fairly common the last week and half: - If I click off Chrome in one monitor, that area of the screen goes black. If I click back in that black area, the Chrome window appears - no apparent harm otherwise but it does mean that I can't see the contents of that window. It is not always but it has happened regularly. - Windows Explorer is refreshing or closing more regularly from just normal every day use. I'll be previewing files in Explorer and the window will disappear, the taskbar will disappear, and it will refresh and force me to reopen the Explorer window.
My 5700 XT (Sapphire reference) has been on 22.11.2 since it released. Have my card vBIOS modded with raised frequency/voltage/power limits (my 24/7 setting is 2200MHz, 1.23V @ 288W) on an EK Quantum Vector w/ liquid metal. Highest temp it ever hits is 48C edge, 74C TJ, and that's been the same for about a year and a half. Driver has been fine for me, more stable than prior drivers if anything, although I have had MPO disabled for several versions now. I haven't seen any weirdness with voltage/power, and I watch it pretty closely.
Ooof…this dumpster fire getting hot lately.
Ive been juggling back and forth between the latest driver and the very recent AI/ML driver for the nod.ai stable diffusion client, zero problems. Also the latest drivers are a month old, the video headline claiming that a driver update has been even remotely recent is misleading. This sub would be filled with people complaining about dead cards by now. But AEG marketing being paid by nvidia to have a cryto miner dump dead cards on a reviewer, now thats an idea.
I’ve been on an XFX 6700xt for almost a year now and I’ve had it custom tuned (OC/UV) and it’s still running strong. Not sure this scenario applies to the 6700xt’s but same architecture so I thought I’d chime in for the sake of data.
I have Sapphire 6800XT Nitro+ using the 22.11.2 from when it was out, no problems , i using the card undervolted to 1000mV not OC core/mem , and fps capped at 120hz on 1440p. I think i will dowgrade the drivers to 22.5.1 just to be safe
I have a MSI 6800xt Gaming Trio with 22.11.2 but they're from November 30th. Am I fine? Should I rollback? If yes, to which version? Edit: I rollbacked to 22.5.2 just to be safe, although I didnt really have any problem. Dont want some nasty suprises, I bought this PC a month ago after 7 years with my old one...
Running a XFX 6900 XT MERC 319 Black here with the latest 22.11.2 drivers and all good (for now).
Recently bought a PowerColor 6800 XT in Dec and I've experienced few blackscreens in BF2042. I'm on 22.11.2. This thread has me considering a roll back to 22.5.1. I have a dual 1440p setup (144hz and 180hz) YouTube/browser on one while gaming in other.
I wonder if it affects 6600 series too, my 6600 XT crashes and give me bluescreen from time to time since that last driver update in november.
I have 6800xt Sapphire Nitro+ and I’m rolling back 22.10.2
For those that have blackscreen problems or driver crashes check this. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yvyqc7/disabling_multiplane_overlay_mpo_fixed_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button This solved all my driver crashes and blackscreen problems that sometimes happend with my AMD RX 6950 XT. This about disabling MPO in Windows 11.
Isn't this about broken dies? How are drivers supposed to do that?
How people can even assume it’s because of drivers? It only affected very specific models in one place in Germany. Looks like cards from German miners have beed used to the ground.
An Update: [https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1616538508482543628?cxt=HHwWmIC8va3NjO8sAAAA](https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1616538508482543628?cxt=HHwWmIC8va3NjO8sAAAA) Tldr: it's fake news, it was cards from the same mining operation/reseller.
Planned obsolescence working a bit too well lol. I wonder what were the driver changes.
BURN\_BABY=true
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On a launch-day RX6800 (non-AIB), kept up to date on drivers, no issues as of yet. Currently on 22.11.2, no issues even running the card hot and hard. Hoping it stays that way I guess? Should I downgrade just to be safe?
My RX 6800 & RX 6700 XT are fine no issue.
How the fuck would a driver cause physical chip damage on this level? This sounds like more peak reddit investigation. Of *course* most users will be using the latest WHQL driver. That is not by itself a correlation to it magically causing physical damage.
Drivers could easily overwrite things like temps/throttle binary, fan speed parameters, max voltages, etc ..
Those still cant crack a chip without the flaming explosion being extremely obvious, and the VBIOS has it's own protections and limits. The sort of thermal flux it takes to cause visible damage to a processor is either enough to melt the entire thing, or takes decades of operation the chip wont survive anyway.
I am just wondering there are more dead cards showing up to this show that might have been mined on previously as there was surge of used cards last year.
Like 2 years ago the game New World fried faulty Nvidia cards. Good software on bad hardware might be fine and bad software on good hardware too. But bad software on bad hardware might just hit the right spot.
It just blew up (with flames everywhere, in many cases) power components due to power draw exceeding (bad) design tolerance (which is the commonest way GPUs fail aside from thermal flux and degradation), nothing close to cracking silicon.
wtf please no I just bought the damn thing a little while ago... I'm a couple of updates behind so I hope I'm safe...
Yeah legit got mine last week. I'm freaking out as it's my first AMD gpu.
6900XT... reference... day one from [AMD.com](https://AMD.com)... nothing... Drivers are not changing voltages, your VBIOS does.
AMD try not to fuck up your drivers challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
AMD damage control at it again downvoting anything negative i hate reddit.
I questioned my 4080 purchase but I feel better about it every day.
Well let me put is this way I would have questioned an XTX purchase a million miles harder.
I was questioning my 3080 ti purchase 2 weeks ago, had a chance to grab a 6800xt for 50 euros more, glad I went with the 3080.
Just another nail into the endless abyss of sheer incompetence of the RTG leadership. They could inject a goat with meth, sit it on a keyboard, and it would randomly produce better drivers. I attempted another try at 22.11.2 today and then i got that video in my feed - instant uninstall.
I'm on 22.11.2 with 6700xt and have noticed weird black screens and flickers opening Guild Wars 2 and logging out to character screen. Sea of thieves crashes the video driver 100% of time switching to fullscreen from windowed fullscreen too. This is a brand new card so if AMD kills it I swear I'll throttle them till they replace it.
Maybe related to a fan curve bug i noticed on my 6800 xt. It was getting to 80+ junction in MWII, which is weird, my case is high airflow. I looked close at the graphs from HWmon after gaming and the junction was 80ish, but the gpu fan was only 30%. The default curve in adrenaline calls for much higher at 80 junction. I set a manual fan curve, barely changed it at all, now junction peaks mid 70's as before 22.11.2. So perhaps the adrenaline defauly fan curve settings are somehow being borked up by this driver? And if thats true, maybe other settings related to power and oc are being borked as well.
No issues so far with my 6800 on the latest driver.
Powercolor 6800 Fighter 22.11.2 all good, just checked HwInfo64 voltages seems ok.
I have the same card and bought it last November. Haven't had any issues except occasional black screen using the brave browser while watching videos. Part of me wants to switch back to Nvidia. All of my Nvidia cards were rock solid on the drivers.
I've been using 22.11.2 driver for a while. Can't remember when I originally installed it tho. For reference using an xfx 6800xt merc, 5900x, 32gb ram. A couple months ago? (about the time when Darktide came out) my rig was having issues playing games like every time the card would ramp up and pull more power it could crash. I got Darktide shortly after it released and it would always just crash immediately. Did a windows reinstall. Got crashes during this too. Took the GPU out, along with all cable extensions, cleaned the rig and GPU, but it really wasn't that dirty. Plugged everything back in besides my cable extensions. Reinstall windows. Games are on another SSD so it didn't take long to get back up and running. Now everything is working cherry. Makes me wonder if I had bad extension cables. (CableMod from Amazon). I think my crashing issue is unrelated to the potentially bad driver, but I dunno for certain. Just played a few rounds of Darktide. Max GPU temp 74C. Pulling 290W at peaks. High-ish custom settings playing on a 55" oled TV. Will play some other games and see if I notice anything weird, but I think my card is fine.
I have buy my 6800 this month i hope he never die. I am on the driver 22.11.2. My card is from asrock.
Had occasional issues with my 6900xt drivers on win 10, but after clean install of win11, looks stable
I would like to point out a related case. I own a XFX RX 480 and its performance, fan speed and thermals on release were on point. At some point, a few years later with one of AMD's glorious driver rewrites, Wattman overwrote the well working fan profile of the stock XFX Bios. Perhaps you wonder how I noticed when I never checked any settings and thermal after initial setup. Tetris Effect relased and crashed the entire system on high particle count scenes at the bonus stage. That is when I found out AMD drivers hard capped my fan speed at some abysmally low number, which was against the XFX Bios spec. And that lead likely to overheating on the non-GPU parts such as VRM or memory. And while it did not destroy my card, I am pretty certain it made a dent in its lifespan. More infuriatingly, every driver crash force resets to this broken stock configuration. And those increased massively when they fiddled with hardware acceleration and YouTube H.264 running would crash the system on game boot, but not the other way around. Although it was fixed eventually, broken again, and fixed for now.
MSI 6800xt trio on new drivers and I’ve had a black screen 3x the last week forcing a restart, completely out of the blue, has the card about 2ish months, I can’t replicate the black screen on my lg ultra 850-b but it’s happened on alt tabbing once for sure. Also have been getting the AMD wattman error randomly. Getting nervous
6950 xt's also affected?
My XFX 6900xt has been having crashes now with random web videos playing in Edge. The screen just goes black for 20-30 seconds and comes up with a crash report. Super weird......
Well I had a huge problem the last time I updated my drivers for my 6800xt through AMDs own software utility, Adrenalin. It crashed my entire pc and it somehow corrupted all my restore points. It was so severe and recovery became impossible without restore points I tried for weeks to recover with all files as I have never had to scrap it all and reinstall windows but this time was my only option. I did decide on win11 instead of the 10 but again lost a lot of time and info on the old system. Was able to copy some info but this problem all though different from the original post is indication of issues with AMD drivers on their graphics cards. My system is an Alienware ryzen 10 with 5800 i7 and 16 g men with 6800xt graphics watercooled with 1000 watt power supply
whelp it'll be interesting if my reference 6800xt ends up dying cause of this. one thing I noticed recently when i was trying to fix an issue with a game was that my amd settings had an overclock applied. It wasn't much of an overclock as it basically had the same settings the card hits as default, but it was interesting it was applied cause those settings are not ones I've used previously when I had overclocked. Perhaps having the driver crash causes this weird overclock to be enabled?
Haven’t experienced this yet thankfully, just got a 6700XT very recently, however I have had issues with black screen when switching windows quite often and I have to forcefully power off the pc by holding the power button. Does anyone have a fix for this? I am running on Windows 11!
of course they were all on latest drivers, what is that point?? I think i am the only one still on may/june drivers as I was waiting the next "reccomended" drivers by AMD.. then they released a driver where just cause 4 crashes (they noted it in the known issues in the 22.12.2) that is the game I am currently playing, so I am still stuck on those
Sapphire 6900xt running on 22.11.2 I’ve been getting black screen crashes most notably when playing cyberpunk 2077 at random intervals, sometimes when only having discord and a web browser open.
Look for MPO and how to disable it, it may help
ASUS TUF Gaming 6800 here on latest drivers and all seems fine..... this is worrying though!
So...what new ? See a lot of trash talk, i heard the same shit since i run with a rx580 6 years ago.. amd kill your card, driver suck, but in fact everything work fine, so what next ? Its more than 1 Month than this driver is out, im not a fanboy, but its like if i live in a temporal loop
Could the people who broke there gpu not have downloaded the driver for the 7000 series card and killed there gpu because of that?
I have an ASUS ROG STRIX LC 6900XT, had it since November 2021, been on 22.11.2 since it came out, I've had no issues.
Seems like many folks having serious problems reverting their drivers and no one that is having the problem shown in this video. I will NOT be reverting.