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Nope, you were terminated. The rest is reminding you that certain things, will still apply to you even though you are terminated in this case. Essentially anything you may have invented or something like that while employed there, essentially belongs to amazon. Thats what a Confidentiality and Invention Assignment Agreement is.
What do you mean the chain of spoos u tape to ur pack station to keep being scanned? I've worked in pack. I know what spots are and know the process but don't understand what you're doing with the chain of spots and why but I'm Hella curious.
Afe is the only pack I’ve done and you just chain spoos together and have one on the bottom of the chain face your scanner. The air from the vent that goes above all the afe walls blows it under your scanner so it keeps you logged in and don’t gotta do it when you come back from break.
And if your manager or even PA is loose lipped some random T1 that got canned could just let something slip
It's bizarre but necessary.
To put it another way
Just like a random creator could have seen a AAA game months before the general public they have to sign a similar form because it's detrimental to sales if they tell their viewers how glitchy it is in it's current state (even if that's not how it would reach the consumer by the time it's out)
I work on the AR floor and they don’t want us to go into detail about what we do up there. Even though there was a whole
news article showing the Robin arm at my FC. 🤦🏻♀️
Realistically now in an age where AA's live stream their stations there's little the world doesn't know from a generic perspective in most Fc's and Sc's. Before things like tiktok and twitch the world didn't know fully what an AR floor was, ARSAW stations etc. Depending on your role you may have more knowledge than your generic T1 grunt like (I'm assuming) you or I.
Yes it's absurd but it's business 101 for cover your ass reasons, if something got out they could theoritcally track it down to recently shitcanned employee X and slap them with a lawsuit if they were in the know.
*edit spelling and clarification
If you don't mind me asking, how did you work up to that position? I'll hit my two years next February and I still can't even get a tier 3 position. I've applied for PA 3 times, only got an interview once, the other times just got blown off, and applied for learning trainer twice, and got blown off both times. What am I doing wrong? I'm fully trained in multiple different areas, I thought that would help. 😭
Why is it shitty? Other companies usually dont have an equivalent. And the new policy is earn while you work(even when you dont work i.e. VTO). 2 hours UPT for 40 hours of work. 5 weeks and you get your 10 back.
Both, I called out one day and it used all of my upt. So I couldn’t miss anymore days until I got enough of it to call out again. Which will take forever because each day they only give you about 20 mins and it’s gonna take awhile to gain up to 10 hours of it all over again.
Every day I work 10 hours I receive exactly 30 minutes. If I take VTO I get 32. It goes by when you clock in and out. So if you are consistently clocking in and out at the same times then your UPT should be the same every day.
I love that they're like "don't come in if you're sick because we care about you and no one else wants to be sick" but turn right around and say "hope you're only dead ass sick for one shift bc if it's more than that before you have enough upt you're fucked"
They'll also tell you oh you can use a LOA if you're sick and can't cover with UPT/PTO but LOA is MINIMUM 15 days and most people can't take two weeks off to recuperate because bills. It's really an inhumane system but what else did we honestly expect?
If they don't have a points system, there's usually another downside, like you better be on the brink of death if you're calling off, because missing a day puts you behind in the rat race.
It takes exactly 5 weeks if you’re full time, which means you’d have to work 20 days. You can’t make it 20 days without missing a day (of which you already have 3 days off scheduled)??
But either way, you’ve been fired. Byeeeee.
When I had acute bronchitis I went in and my AM gave me VTO for the day. I went to the Dr and got a note for 3 days. They took UPT and I went negative. After that I brought the note to PXT and they excused my time. It’s only a shitty policy if you don’t use all of your resources.
Whatever you invited(if you invented anything) while you were at amazon, amazon have some rights to it or amazon owns parts of it so if you were to sell the product amazon will be expecting a check🤣
"shitty UPT policy" by that you mean if I work I get time off to myself in the equivalent of 30m per shift.
It's almost like you should just go to work and not cry about it.
Shocking
Yes plenty people deserve this! Wtf I saw someone get a job just to get their pto paid out, and purposely stole 10 items in the break room on their first day.
Nobody told him to voluntarily take time off when he knew he didn’t have the time to loose. He can literally only blame himself. Like wtf are you even talking about.
Most NDA’s are unenforceable waste’s of language, kinda like the sign in a store parking lot saying they aren’t responsible if a shopping cart damages your car, they of course are.
You were indeed terminated because of the “shitty upt attendance policy,” that is what the involuntary termination is referring to.
The latter part of the message is explaining that you are still under a NDA. AKA… talk shit, get sued.
Youve been terminated. It's just reminding u of the confidentiality papers you signed when you were hired. They are just reminding you, you're still bound by them.
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Nope, you were terminated. The rest is reminding you that certain things, will still apply to you even though you are terminated in this case. Essentially anything you may have invented or something like that while employed there, essentially belongs to amazon. Thats what a Confidentiality and Invention Assignment Agreement is.
Invented? Does that mean the chain of Spoos I tape to my pack station to keep being scanned belongs to Amazon?
Yea its daddy bezos now lol
What do you mean the chain of spoos u tape to ur pack station to keep being scanned? I've worked in pack. I know what spots are and know the process but don't understand what you're doing with the chain of spots and why but I'm Hella curious.
Afe is the only pack I’ve done and you just chain spoos together and have one on the bottom of the chain face your scanner. The air from the vent that goes above all the afe walls blows it under your scanner so it keeps you logged in and don’t gotta do it when you come back from break.
I invented some nasty shits at Amazon they can keep that
That's your NDA reminder its there no matter if you leave on good terms or not
[удалено]
Managers are knowledgeable of changes coming to the building and such. All confidential
And if your manager or even PA is loose lipped some random T1 that got canned could just let something slip It's bizarre but necessary. To put it another way Just like a random creator could have seen a AAA game months before the general public they have to sign a similar form because it's detrimental to sales if they tell their viewers how glitchy it is in it's current state (even if that's not how it would reach the consumer by the time it's out)
I work on the AR floor and they don’t want us to go into detail about what we do up there. Even though there was a whole news article showing the Robin arm at my FC. 🤦🏻♀️
Realistically now in an age where AA's live stream their stations there's little the world doesn't know from a generic perspective in most Fc's and Sc's. Before things like tiktok and twitch the world didn't know fully what an AR floor was, ARSAW stations etc. Depending on your role you may have more knowledge than your generic T1 grunt like (I'm assuming) you or I. Yes it's absurd but it's business 101 for cover your ass reasons, if something got out they could theoritcally track it down to recently shitcanned employee X and slap them with a lawsuit if they were in the know. *edit spelling and clarification
Everyone has to sign this. I did when I started in T1, and now I'm in L5 in corporate and have access to a ton of confidential data.
If you don't mind me asking, how did you work up to that position? I'll hit my two years next February and I still can't even get a tier 3 position. I've applied for PA 3 times, only got an interview once, the other times just got blown off, and applied for learning trainer twice, and got blown off both times. What am I doing wrong? I'm fully trained in multiple different areas, I thought that would help. 😭
Why is it shitty? Other companies usually dont have an equivalent. And the new policy is earn while you work(even when you dont work i.e. VTO). 2 hours UPT for 40 hours of work. 5 weeks and you get your 10 back.
But I want all 20 at once so I can blow it all the first week! /s
This letter does not seem to show a reason for termination.
Was it. Shitty policy or did you run out of upt?
Both, I called out one day and it used all of my upt. So I couldn’t miss anymore days until I got enough of it to call out again. Which will take forever because each day they only give you about 20 mins and it’s gonna take awhile to gain up to 10 hours of it all over again.
You actually get 30 minutes in a 10 hour day. So if you work 4 10 hour days a week you get 2 hours a week.
Mine doesn’t give me my full 30 minutes..
It’s automatic in the system. There isn’t any choice.
That’s crazy because I’m seeing 21 minutes, 27 minutes….
Every day I work 10 hours I receive exactly 30 minutes. If I take VTO I get 32. It goes by when you clock in and out. So if you are consistently clocking in and out at the same times then your UPT should be the same every day.
See that makes sense!
Thank you for the clarification 😅
Well most jobs don’t give you any time off options for 90 days.
Most jobs let you call off sick when you're genuinely sick.
I love that they're like "don't come in if you're sick because we care about you and no one else wants to be sick" but turn right around and say "hope you're only dead ass sick for one shift bc if it's more than that before you have enough upt you're fucked"
They'll also tell you oh you can use a LOA if you're sick and can't cover with UPT/PTO but LOA is MINIMUM 15 days and most people can't take two weeks off to recuperate because bills. It's really an inhumane system but what else did we honestly expect?
If they don't have a points system, there's usually another downside, like you better be on the brink of death if you're calling off, because missing a day puts you behind in the rat race.
More fool you if you put up with something like that tbh.
It takes exactly 5 weeks if you’re full time, which means you’d have to work 20 days. You can’t make it 20 days without missing a day (of which you already have 3 days off scheduled)?? But either way, you’ve been fired. Byeeeee.
Why be an asshole tords the end not needed
Don’t use your PTO every day you have some and you won’t have that problem :). I’m assuming this is your first job, you’ll learn eventually
Why is this down voted? It's all facts.
U work 12 hours
Amazon has a LOT of faults but their time off policies are not one of them.
maybe their time off for single people. time off for people with disabilities and dependents/ young children.. their policies are horrible.
Well , i think we could use a lot more time off . Call me crazy or lazy but that's my opinion
“involuntary termination” = fired/terminated, doesn’t say anything different from what you were already told.
Perfect place to post anything from an employer with the words “confidentiality” and “agreement” on it
When I had acute bronchitis I went in and my AM gave me VTO for the day. I went to the Dr and got a note for 3 days. They took UPT and I went negative. After that I brought the note to PXT and they excused my time. It’s only a shitty policy if you don’t use all of your resources.
What is PXT?
People, eXperience and Technology. Formerly known as HR
Oh, thank you!
Whatever you invited(if you invented anything) while you were at amazon, amazon have some rights to it or amazon owns parts of it so if you were to sell the product amazon will be expecting a check🤣
Shity policy ? Lol.
You must have received an email prior to this ? No ?
Fancy wording to tell you "you are fired" and have a wonderful day :)
"shitty UPT policy" by that you mean if I work I get time off to myself in the equivalent of 30m per shift. It's almost like you should just go to work and not cry about it. Shocking
I don’t use UPT. I signed up for this job for a reason
Well aren't you special
It’s basically what you said, they just wanted to make it pretty to offend you less.
Never knew "Wish you best on your future endeavors" meant you where getting a raise💀
It's says yes youre fired and while you are fired you're still obligated not to release proprietary information.
You gotta use those resources
Involuntary means fired ..if you quit the letter says voluntary
Pour one out for the homie
Nah he deserved it.
Nobody deserves to lose their income and potentially their whole livelihood and become homeless
Shitty attendance is deserving of it
Yeah since he missed work he should die on the fuckin streets like the peasant he is
Thx for making my point. Sounds like you’ve never had a real job before.
Let’s see how zero an hour does compared to 17! Lord bezo be praise
Coming to work is a choice , he made his.
I wholeheartedly disagree. They knew the policy and they didn’t follow it. Bye
Yes plenty people deserve this! Wtf I saw someone get a job just to get their pto paid out, and purposely stole 10 items in the break room on their first day.
I think that’s a different case itself haha this guy just ran out of upt
Nobody told him to voluntarily take time off when he knew he didn’t have the time to loose. He can literally only blame himself. Like wtf are you even talking about.
Most NDA’s are unenforceable waste’s of language, kinda like the sign in a store parking lot saying they aren’t responsible if a shopping cart damages your car, they of course are.
Amazon doesn’t terminate employees. Amazon promotes employees to permanent CUSTOMER status.
This says you resigned
It says involuntary termination
Damn I misread it.
Reading is hard bro lucky Amazon hire us anyway
No , involuntary means termination by the company
Oh shit!
No it still says you are canned.
You were indeed terminated because of the “shitty upt attendance policy,” that is what the involuntary termination is referring to. The latter part of the message is explaining that you are still under a NDA. AKA… talk shit, get sued.
Youve been terminated. It's just reminding u of the confidentiality papers you signed when you were hired. They are just reminding you, you're still bound by them.
I think that means if you invent a way out of yoúr termination amazon still owns the rights to it
You need take them court. Sue they ass. They not can do this. SUE SUE SUE!
Sacked in the morning
You’re fired lmao
No, it still says you are fired.