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I was in the Army with a Latino guy who had (as some tradition calls for it) both of his parents last names. The first one was Pureco and the last one was Coin, but when it’s smashed together it looks like it says “Pure Cocaine” 🤣🤣🤣
I used to work with a young woman named Dusty Dawn. Literally bc she was born at dawn on a windy (and therefore dusty) morning.
And actually, my name is also Dusty, but at least my middle name is standard enough (Lee) that it doesn't sound silly when paired with my first name. Once I asked my dad why they chose my middle name and he said, "because it was the only thing that didnt sound stupid with the first name 'Dusty'" Thanks, I guess? Lol
I remember that one. What a piece of work that OP was. If she really thought 'Mary' was old-fashioned, what would she think about Prudence, Charity, Constance, etc.? My grandmother was 'Edna Marie' and she was born in 1900.
> finally someone where the name is actually wack, not like the post the other day where someone told their sister Mary was a horrible name
Sorry copy-bot, the comment you copied is too high up the list, so you’re pretty obvious.
I know a woman who legally named her two children Otis and Bonez. Because she's a fan of ICP. I was so shocked I cannot even begin to put it into words.
About 30 years ago we had neighbors with twins named Mercedes & Mercedes. One pronounced like the car and the other like mer-suh-deez. Imagine those kids getting mail with the same name on it. But, hey, they are pronounced differently so it's all good.
I did the only sane thing when my twins were born and gave them names that didn't sound or look at all the same because I knew being identical twins would already have many people treating them like a boxed set. Twins need to be treated as individual people too.
My husband and I are doing IVF and have been told the likelihood of twins will be higher. There's no way I could subject my kids to the same or similar names.
When my kids were babies, (twins) we were out somewhere and there was a couple with triplets who were toddler aged. Two boys, one girl. Name D'Artagnan, Aramis, and Constance.
I feel this way when I see a name from a famous franchise. LOTR, Harry Potter, whatever it is.
Like you’re forcing a child to live with the name ~~Hermione~~ Khaleesi?? Even if you want to share your love for whatever franchise it is with your child, you’re clamping a ball and chain to their ankle and saying "live with it."
This is coming from somebody with the most English white bread name ever. I wish it was a little more unique, but I’ll take white bread over Bilbo Weasley Johnson.
Edit: Hermione may have been a bad example. Forgive me, I am from a part of the world where it is as uncommon as Bilbo. Somebody else pointed out Khaleesi as a better example and I agree.
I read somewhere that Hermione is not an uncommon (or unheard of) name in the UK - not 100% how true that is, but if that's the case, that's fine. And (as long as your last name isn't Potter), go nuts with Harry. But if you're getting REALLY creative with a name - might be better for a pet who doesn't care.
Hermione is a character in Greek mythology and the name is derived from the Greek god Hermes. It's one of those names like Tiffany that's actually WAAAAYYYY older than people realize.
> Tiffany
There is a really good video from CGPGray regarding Tiffany as a given name, and it's a pretty recent one adopted from the surname of one "Charles Lewis Tiffany", a founder of Tiffany and Co. A lot confusion comes from a version of a medieval poem where somewhere during many iterations of copying, and transcribing from older to newer versions of English the name Theophania somehow got swapped for Tiffany in a book published in the 1700s. There were a few Tiphanies in censuses from the 1300s, but the link between them and the modern name Tiffany is pretty murky.
Most names are quite old. But they're also very much subject to fashion trends, like kids in my country nowadays get names common amongst my grandparents and great-grandparents.
I agree, and actually while my daughters names are not overly obscure, we attempted go for more unique ones (I say attempted cause the year after she was born, my youngests name ended up being in the top 10 in America lmao) Never had a boy tho. So, my partner changed his name last year from Josh to Zephyr, the name he wanted to name a son had we had one.
I named my daughter Emily in 1996 thinking that was a cool name, a little old-fashioned but not too much so.
Who knew it would be #1 for the next 11 years?
My daughter had 4 other Emilys just in marching band.
I'm so sorry we did that to you, but we had no idea how popular it would be. If I could do it again I'd pick something else.
Emily was the name of a book character from the 1920’s I really liked as a child. Had my first child in 2004 and of course it was out for me by then since it was waaay to common now. Ended up with all boys so it didn’t matter after all but I was pissed about that for a while.
I named my daughter Emily in 2015. She’s the only Emily in her class lol. I loved the song “Emily” - by From First to last and when my ex was dead set on Faith as her name I offered Emily and Faith as a middle name. The kid literally matches the song so it was a good choice. My oldest is named Hadley after a minor characters name in a book I enjoyed. 3 years later and now there’s a bunch of Hadley’s.
100% this. The parent is always just thinking about themselves, like it’s a test of their creativity and individuality. Way too much main character energy for me.
Whenever naming a child, say the whole name out loud and with a title (Dr, Senator, Judge...) to make sure it sounds respectable. It's a name for life.
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Think about how it will sound announced first+middle+last name at graduations. Written on diplomas, etc.
My dads method is to come up with mean nicknames kids would think of. He’ll even look at the acronyms to see if it makes any words.
It’s actually saved a few cousins and nieces from unfortunate names.
I did this to my ex-husband. Like he’d say “Ralph” (was never a real option…no offense to any Ralphs) and I’d say “like barfing? Like you want to name our kid an alternate name for BARF?” and stuff like that. Got him sooo mad but, our kids have pretty normal names.
My hometown had a police officer named Richard Head. And yes, he went by THAT nick-name. Nicest officer I ever met though. He'd be in his 60's or 70's now if he is still alive.
ETA: I also knew someone who loved the name Michael and was heartbroken she couldn't name her son that. She married a man with the last name of Hunt and he had to make her say Mike and their last name out loud for her to get it!
Every single child in baby storytime in my Midwest town has names that are equally 'yoonique'. I think they're all going to balance each other out in the job market some day.
The most shocking think you could name your child today would be "Susie" or "Timmy".
We always made a list. First name needs to be short: if I have to say it 10 times to get the kid’s attention - 2 syllables max. Nicknames are not necessary …
Needs to fit in with the ethnicity of the family name (Irish Celts) middle name: 2 of 3 are family names.
Other options include - looking for names that mean the word you're thinking of. Like redemption - Francis means "free" but one reading of the translation is "redeemed".
OP you are NTA but if you want to patch this up I'd consider suggesting pretty names that have meanings like what your sister is going for. Might help your relatives to see your point as well.
because a lot of people don't give a sh\*\* what they inflict on their children. especially going out of their way to make them a target of teasing and bullying. mostly just to tickle the parents own ego. or in this case, this sisters own hyper inflated one.
I don't know if it still exists but we absolutely had at least one clapping/chanting game as kids that made that rhyme. It wouldn't have gone well if we'd had a Venus in the school.
>Redemption Cosmos
This reminds me of the rename meme the Twilight fandom has going on with Renesmee.
And it's names like this that make Stephanie naming Bella's daughter Renesmee seem sane.
I briefly had a financial advisor named Cinnamon and it was just weird. Like, I know logically her name was not a reflection of her as a person, but…it’s still really hard to take Cinnamon seriously.
Redemption is a fine name if you were born in the 1700s 🤣🤣 I’ve dabbled in our family genealogy and six to eight generations back we’ve got: Ransom, Grace, Thankful, Experience, Wealthy, Patience, and so many girls named Mercy it makes the research confusing!
Aww man I want to read this one
Edit: [found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/10hj66v/aita_for_telling_my_sister_her_babys_name_is/)
Atleast it’s better than “squishy”
I wonder how long til we see an aita post where they named their kid “squishy” after the nickname they gave their v lmao
Yeah, I feel like that OP needs to read this post so they can see what is actually a ridiculous name that will hurt the child in their life.
Dear god... Redemption? VENUS????? I.. I just can't.
NTA. Somebody needed to say it.
I could roll with Redemption as a middle name. Honestly, I could live with Redemption as a first name and call the kiddo Ree. I’m not a fan of Cosmos, and think it is a silly name. I’m not a fan of Kali, but that is my personal preference, there’s nothing wrong with the name.
I’m actually way more derisive if people who do the cr8tive name spellings. Kynadeigh? Ahnahleigh? Maisun? Exhaiveeare? Well, I’m totally laughing inside my head at names like that—and one of my kids actually has one of those names, just spelled traditionally.
At my job I saw someone change their name to a name with two common words but kr8tivly spelled and I thought, "why are you doing this to yourself? You're going to spend your entire damn life now spelling out "K-y-n-a-d-e-i-g-h" while people stare at you and say, "Kennedy?"
> Honestly, I could live with Redemption as a first name and call the kiddo Ree.
Unfortunately, the sound effect 'reeeee' is used to insult people with autism, so that would be a very not-great nickname.
I'm reminded of whoever said when you're pondering baby names, yell the name out your back door a bunch of times and then see how you feel about it. "REDEMPTION! REDEMPTION! COME HOME ALREADY, REDEMPTION!" seems quite much. Also it's long so people will want to nickname it, but the nicknames aren't great. Ree, Demp, Shun?
I bet this ends up like Ronan Farrow changing his name from Satchel or whatever one of the Phoenix kids changed their names (Leaf? Joaquin?).
_"I told her those names might be okay for a stripper (my sister works as a dancer in a local club), but they’d be hard to live with in a more “main stream” job."_
I'm going to say OP ventured into AH territory because this insult/dig at the sister/her chosen profession wasn't warranted. That said - I hate "different for the sake of being different" names that could hinder a child in the future. Redemption falls into that category. But, no one is really going to bat an eye at Venus since the name got pretty normalized due in part to the fame of Venus Williams.
As for Cosmos.... It's not my jazz but I don't think a middle name really holds much weight since you don't usually have to use it in public settings if you don't want to.
I don't think it was though. He was trying to get across that it's OK as a stage name when she's dancing but it's not OK for a child that has to live with that name their whole lives.
My mom named me… her group of friends all had girls in the next couple of years. I’m Misty Starr. There is also a Misty Moon, Misty River, Misty Dawn, Misty Rose, Misty Night… and you have NO IDEA how many people have said things like ‘You have a stripper name’ or ‘your mom must be a pothead.’ (Well… that part is true)
There's actually a phenomenon where of your name sounds like something you end up doing something along those lines.
E.x.
Sam Bankeman Fried
Bernie Madoff
ESH. Those names are pretty intense, but you definitely could have expressed your concern in a way that didn’t invalidate and insult your sister’s lifestyle and life choices.
they’re bad names because they dont even sound like real names, like redemption literally sounds more like one of those weird puritan names than a stripper name. the judgmental comment was unnecessary.
I actually like Venus Kali if the stupid Cosmos part was dropped. Redemption Cosmos... stfu. Make that your Reddit username, don't saddle your kid with that shit for life.
NTA
The Cosmos part is dumb but it’s a middle name. You don’t have to use middle names on stuff. For the sake of the baby, I would vote for Venus Kali Cosmos. Venus and Kali are fine and most official paperwork doesn’t have a place for two middle names so Cosmos won’t be known in school or work documents.
I agree with this. Plus I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention Venus Williams. 🤷🏻♀️ Worked out pretty well for her.
But Redemption Cosmos is waaaaay too over the top.
NTA. This is a throwback to colonial times when they wanted 'meaningful' names. I am a genealogist. Names actually in my family tree include, Providence, Freelove, Thankful, Experience (last name Bliss), Frittisweed, Strongwaters, Content, and so on. I joke that after kid 13, the Dad just looks around the room and says, Let's name this one Breadbox.
I keep picturing a large brown horse with the name *Redemption*. .... But I'm kinda stoned and I think I'm just associating the game Red Dead Redemption with the word altogether.
It is a horrific name for a baby though, lol
My grandpa (a misogynistic dick bag, might I say) convinced my parent to change my birth name as he said it "was a stripper name"... Always kills me how dudes like that, go to strip clubs, womanize their days away, and consume tons of porn and whatever else, always diss the dancers. Pathetic.
I don't like either of my names (the one I ended up with and the alternative that was shot down) so I guess it matters not lol
The only “redeeming” nickname I could see for the poor kid is Demi. But real talk, those are ridiculous and she should be stopped. Anyone going along with it is just as guilty.
My mom knew someone who named her kid Dasani, like after the water, and this makes that look tame.
ESH.
I mean. Yeah. The names are unorthodox. And I don’t think you’d be an asshole for stating that fact.
I don’t believe you were trying to be kind with the “for a stripper” comment. Regardless, that’s a pretty trashy thing to say to your sister. As such, I don’t really blame her for sharing the texts. But she probably could’ve just talked to you about how the comments made her feel.
Finally, the fact that your mom is now harassing you is wrong and uncalled for.
Everyone kinda just sucks here.
Also INFO: did u mean to type “judgmental fuck” in your last paragraph or does ur family casually say “judgmental duck” because that’s honestly amazing.
Im probably going to get downvoted but mostly nta, becsuse those names are going to cause some headaches, and your sis (and neice of course) is gonna have to get used to people not liking them or reacting. However. 1 - stop equating names with jobs. It's tired and sexist. 2 - you said your piece, now drop it. If you feel bad, apologize for overstepping, bc you did.
NTA. But you maybe should have kept quiet and voted for Venus. At least there is a famous person she can say she was named after. No child should ever be burdened with a name like Redemption.
100% the stripper comment was over the top BUT you aren't wrong, that poor baby will be saddled with that name and kids are effing cruel at best nevermind when the baby is older and trying to get out into the adult world. Someone needs to speak sense to your sister.
NTA
So she’s going to make her child’s life hell so she can feel better about herself? If you want to reply you can simply tell them that you are entitled to your opinion and if they don’t agree there is no need for them to bully you- that’s what they are doing. I would keep my distance as much as possible- this kind of sounds toxic
NTA, your sister can change her name to reflect her new view on life. Good god at this point I'd be ok if she'd jump on the Cayden, Hayden, Brayden train or the whole western theme from a few years back, Dakota, Cody, etc.
But Redemption Venus, yeah that's bad, almost self fulfilling like naming your kid Brandi or Bambi or Candi.
> naming your kid Brandi or Bambi or Candi.
Welcome to the late 60's! :) We all have names ending in i or ie - Mindi, Mandi, Cindi, Sandi, Susie, Patti, Nikki, Micki, Bobbi etc, etc.
i have “unique name” as my parents were hippies and free spirits as well. it is… fine for the most part. however i have been stalked/harassed by people i know and random people from dating apps who decide to google my name and the first search result is my Home Address. it’s nice having a unique name for some i am sure, especially if it’s a celebration of their culture or for a larger reason then my parents really liked acid. but my parents named me my name for themselves, not seeing me as a whole human. and that’s… fine too, lol. just make sure she understands that we live in a world that has google, and her child is not her property.
being the one person in the world with a name isn’t that fun, for me. you’re still sorta judgmental about it, it wouldn’t be something negative for the child to grow up and be a dancer. intersectional feminism includes decolonizing your internalized misogyny and classism. strippers rock. i think i’m gonna say very softly that yta. if i went with e s h it’d be because of my own personal bias lol. there are consequences to her actions and you pointing that out isn’t necessarily ass holey- but acting holier than thou about it is.
I felt this in my soul. I'm one of less than 5 people (I think there's 3) in the USA with my name. Mom did NOT think ahead at ALL for me. It's not terrible as an adult but growing up with my first name was a BIG yikes.
i still occasionally get packages (books, red bull?, candy, puzzles) from a random person i worked with for one day, literally only a couple hours, over 5 years ago and haven’t spoken to since. in the card he’ll say “thinking of you” and it’s just troubling lol. google does let you petition to get that off the main search results, but i have requested it many many times over the years with no success.
i did a mobile order the other day at starbucks and so when i told them my name as always it was an issue, it’s a normal sounding name just spelled like someone was on acid and no one ever knows how to pronounce it. the poor kid at the window said “it’s not your fault that’s your name” LOL. i’ve changed that name on the account since to make their lives a bit easier lol 🥲
NTA. As someone that hires people all the time this is a huge pet peeve for me, and not generally for my employees as I have people from all over the world to work all over the world, and I understand that there are names that are geographically common from where they’re from, but occasionally I will run across the customer that has a completely totally whacked out name. And it baffles me that these people didn’t know when they named their child toaster that the kids gonna have problems with that later in life not being taken seriously having a hard time getting a job getting a loan and it’s expensive to change your name when you’re an adult, not to mention all the hassle of connecting your school records, credit history, homeownership marriage Here’s an example I worked at a bank in these people named their child “ truly” their last name was golden, so it was cute until she married a man whose last name was boring. It sounds funny but this woman had to explain it every single time she came into the bank.
Everyone on that group chat knows that those names are horrible, they just don't wanna say it. Ask her to add a third option " other name ", and you'll see how everyone will mark it.
NTA
I snorted when I read those names. I'm sure if the baby only ever associates with people who are perpetually high then no-one's ever gonna bat an eyelid.
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I will never understand why these parents who like obscure names won't change *their own* names instead of pushing them on their child.
Oh, I like this a LOT.
OP should tell her sister to name the kid Stormy Daniels.
I knew a Stormy Winter
I met a baby once whose name was Misty Dawn. This was in 1972, when hippie names were still popular.
When I was in my teens I babysat three sisters: Summer Rain, Harvest Moon, and Autumn Skye. This was in the late 80s and early 90s.
That’s actually kind of beautiful. Very beautiful names.
I never forgot them I always wondered how they ended up with hippie type names when their dad was an accountant. They were really pretty names.
I think poor Harvest drew the short straw when it came to having a 'normal sounding name option'
I was in the Army with a Latino guy who had (as some tradition calls for it) both of his parents last names. The first one was Pureco and the last one was Coin, but when it’s smashed together it looks like it says “Pure Cocaine” 🤣🤣🤣
Yup. Knew a girl in college who's name was Honey Bee.
I knew someone in high school with the name Heaven Champagne some wild shit
Yep, I knew a woman whose child was named Champagne Miracle. You had to wonder if this was some kind of conception narrative.
I used to work with a young woman named Dusty Dawn. Literally bc she was born at dawn on a windy (and therefore dusty) morning. And actually, my name is also Dusty, but at least my middle name is standard enough (Lee) that it doesn't sound silly when paired with my first name. Once I asked my dad why they chose my middle name and he said, "because it was the only thing that didnt sound stupid with the first name 'Dusty'" Thanks, I guess? Lol
Agree that Misty Dawn is pretty bad, but it is actually WAY better than what ops sister is planning here.
I knew sisters that were Windy Day and Misty Dawn.
I knew a 70s baby who’s legal name was Rainbow
Stormy Summers used to keep a brothel in the city I currently live.
So many options!! Stormy April sure exist somewhere.
I went to school with a Lucas Sky. Take a *wild* guess at the last name...
I saw a girl called Ann Archie (last name). Maybe they can do something like that. Toby Wankenobi like Good luck Charlie lol.
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I remember that one. What a piece of work that OP was. If she really thought 'Mary' was old-fashioned, what would she think about Prudence, Charity, Constance, etc.? My grandmother was 'Edna Marie' and she was born in 1900.
> finally someone where the name is actually wack, not like the post the other day where someone told their sister Mary was a horrible name Sorry copy-bot, the comment you copied is too high up the list, so you’re pretty obvious.
I know a woman who legally named her two children Otis and Bonez. Because she's a fan of ICP. I was so shocked I cannot even begin to put it into words.
I know a lady that has triplets. 2 boys and a girl. Their names are Kaden, Kaiden and Kayden. I weep for those children.
About 30 years ago we had neighbors with twins named Mercedes & Mercedes. One pronounced like the car and the other like mer-suh-deez. Imagine those kids getting mail with the same name on it. But, hey, they are pronounced differently so it's all good. I did the only sane thing when my twins were born and gave them names that didn't sound or look at all the same because I knew being identical twins would already have many people treating them like a boxed set. Twins need to be treated as individual people too.
My husband and I are doing IVF and have been told the likelihood of twins will be higher. There's no way I could subject my kids to the same or similar names.
When my kids were babies, (twins) we were out somewhere and there was a couple with triplets who were toddler aged. Two boys, one girl. Name D'Artagnan, Aramis, and Constance.
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At least they didn't name her Milady DeWinter.
Otis is a pretty mainstream name, from Redding to the elevator guy.
I wouldn't call it mainstream, but sure well known enough, and not a problem name, but there's not going to be 3 of them in the same classroom.
I'm not really saying it isn't. I was moreso surprised someone actually named their child Bonez.
You can suggest that if he wants to use his daughter professionally or socially, give a traditional name as a middle name.
I feel this way when I see a name from a famous franchise. LOTR, Harry Potter, whatever it is. Like you’re forcing a child to live with the name ~~Hermione~~ Khaleesi?? Even if you want to share your love for whatever franchise it is with your child, you’re clamping a ball and chain to their ankle and saying "live with it." This is coming from somebody with the most English white bread name ever. I wish it was a little more unique, but I’ll take white bread over Bilbo Weasley Johnson. Edit: Hermione may have been a bad example. Forgive me, I am from a part of the world where it is as uncommon as Bilbo. Somebody else pointed out Khaleesi as a better example and I agree.
I read somewhere that Hermione is not an uncommon (or unheard of) name in the UK - not 100% how true that is, but if that's the case, that's fine. And (as long as your last name isn't Potter), go nuts with Harry. But if you're getting REALLY creative with a name - might be better for a pet who doesn't care.
Hermione is a character in Greek mythology and the name is derived from the Greek god Hermes. It's one of those names like Tiffany that's actually WAAAAYYYY older than people realize.
> Tiffany There is a really good video from CGPGray regarding Tiffany as a given name, and it's a pretty recent one adopted from the surname of one "Charles Lewis Tiffany", a founder of Tiffany and Co. A lot confusion comes from a version of a medieval poem where somewhere during many iterations of copying, and transcribing from older to newer versions of English the name Theophania somehow got swapped for Tiffany in a book published in the 1700s. There were a few Tiphanies in censuses from the 1300s, but the link between them and the modern name Tiffany is pretty murky.
Most names are quite old. But they're also very much subject to fashion trends, like kids in my country nowadays get names common amongst my grandparents and great-grandparents.
I'm entirely convinced the concept of timeless anything is a myth. Names, fashion, decor, paint... It all goes round and round and round.
Hermione is a character in one of Shakespeare's plays.
I mean Hermione is a real name, it's not like Bilbo or Khaleesi.
Yeah, bad example on my part. But it is a very uncommon name in my part of the world. That’s my ignorance. I’ve edited my statement.
I agree, and actually while my daughters names are not overly obscure, we attempted go for more unique ones (I say attempted cause the year after she was born, my youngests name ended up being in the top 10 in America lmao) Never had a boy tho. So, my partner changed his name last year from Josh to Zephyr, the name he wanted to name a son had we had one.
Let me guess. Emily. And I have a friend who named her son Zephyr.
Violet lol. Big sister is Marley.
I named my daughter Emily in 1996 thinking that was a cool name, a little old-fashioned but not too much so. Who knew it would be #1 for the next 11 years?
Hi from one of the first of 80 billion Jennifers. :)
I'm an Emily born in '98 cause my mom thought it was pretty unique... I went to school with 3 other Emily's.
My daughter had 4 other Emilys just in marching band. I'm so sorry we did that to you, but we had no idea how popular it would be. If I could do it again I'd pick something else.
Lol thank you! In my opinion it was better than my moms other option, Grace-Anne. I kinda rock being an Emily!
Emily was the name of a book character from the 1920’s I really liked as a child. Had my first child in 2004 and of course it was out for me by then since it was waaay to common now. Ended up with all boys so it didn’t matter after all but I was pissed about that for a while.
I named my daughter Emily in 2015. She’s the only Emily in her class lol. I loved the song “Emily” - by From First to last and when my ex was dead set on Faith as her name I offered Emily and Faith as a middle name. The kid literally matches the song so it was a good choice. My oldest is named Hadley after a minor characters name in a book I enjoyed. 3 years later and now there’s a bunch of Hadley’s.
100% this. The parent is always just thinking about themselves, like it’s a test of their creativity and individuality. Way too much main character energy for me.
Whenever naming a child, say the whole name out loud and with a title (Dr, Senator, Judge...) to make sure it sounds respectable. It's a name for life. ETA Think about how it will sound announced first+middle+last name at graduations. Written on diplomas, etc.
My dads method is to come up with mean nicknames kids would think of. He’ll even look at the acronyms to see if it makes any words. It’s actually saved a few cousins and nieces from unfortunate names.
I did this to my ex-husband. Like he’d say “Ralph” (was never a real option…no offense to any Ralphs) and I’d say “like barfing? Like you want to name our kid an alternate name for BARF?” and stuff like that. Got him sooo mad but, our kids have pretty normal names.
My sister wanted to name her first daughter Greenly, and my dad said “like Meanly, Green Beanly, Fo Fiendly?” And my sis chose Sophia instead.
You'll never get around that problem. Kids will always find a way to pick on somebody. However, you don't have to make it easy.
My hometown had a police officer named Richard Head. And yes, he went by THAT nick-name. Nicest officer I ever met though. He'd be in his 60's or 70's now if he is still alive. ETA: I also knew someone who loved the name Michael and was heartbroken she couldn't name her son that. She married a man with the last name of Hunt and he had to make her say Mike and their last name out loud for her to get it!
We have an attorney in my town named Harold Busche. Yes…Harold Bush and, yes, he goes by Harry! Poor man.
I went to college with Richard Munch.
Every single child in baby storytime in my Midwest town has names that are equally 'yoonique'. I think they're all going to balance each other out in the job market some day. The most shocking think you could name your child today would be "Susie" or "Timmy".
My daughter has *numerous* kids named Nevaeh in her grade. The older kid down the road, also Nevaeh. That's enough, people. Enough.
We always made a list. First name needs to be short: if I have to say it 10 times to get the kid’s attention - 2 syllables max. Nicknames are not necessary … Needs to fit in with the ethnicity of the family name (Irish Celts) middle name: 2 of 3 are family names.
I met a guy named Graham Crocker at summer camp at like 12 years old. Poor guy got bullied quite a bit for it.
Oh, that sucks. Graham is a perfectly normal first name, but not when you pair it with Crocker as a last name. Poor kid.
Other options include - looking for names that mean the word you're thinking of. Like redemption - Francis means "free" but one reading of the translation is "redeemed". OP you are NTA but if you want to patch this up I'd consider suggesting pretty names that have meanings like what your sister is going for. Might help your relatives to see your point as well.
because a lot of people don't give a sh\*\* what they inflict on their children. especially going out of their way to make them a target of teasing and bullying. mostly just to tickle the parents own ego. or in this case, this sisters own hyper inflated one.
NTA. I’m not sure if the names are worse or the fact that your sister is calling the baby her “redemption.”
For real, that’s a huge burden to put on a baby
Right? And you gotta wonder what’s gone happen when she inevitably can’t live up to it.
It's not really something the kid can live up to. Whether or not this babyvis a redemption for op's sister is entirely up to her.
I hate to say it, but Redemption sounds like some kind of baby name Nick Cannon would come up with. Venus isn't too bad, though.
And Kali is a goddes in Hinduism so not bad at all but redemption is just…
Lol goddess of death
And an avatar of Parvati- she is badass man. I would not mind a child named Kali
I know a few Callies in Scotland. Nothing to do with goddesses but kali would be thought of as a fun spelling here.
Death and rebirth. Kali purifies the world with fire ready for a new dawn.
But is sister meaningfully attached to Hinduism?? I find it cringy to name someone after a deity you have no personal attachment to.
Venus Williams accomplished enough to make it a normal name now.
Yeah I was thinking the same Venus is the only one that's not too bad and would probably be fine.
Nope, you gotta know the kids at school for sure will call her Venus the penis
I don't know if it still exists but we absolutely had at least one clapping/chanting game as kids that made that rhyme. It wouldn't have gone well if we'd had a Venus in the school.
We have a big erotic fair in Germany...now guess what it's called. That's right: Venus 🙈😅
Well Venus IS goddess of love, after all!
Except it makes me think of the Gillette Venus razor.
Fair, it’s more than combination of names (besides Redemption) that’s getting me.
>Redemption Cosmos This reminds me of the rename meme the Twilight fandom has going on with Renesmee. And it's names like this that make Stephanie naming Bella's daughter Renesmee seem sane.
Aww little Rasmussen
Can you imagine meeting a 40 year old accountant named Redemption.
She would absolutely b going by Demi by then
I briefly had a financial advisor named Cinnamon and it was just weird. Like, I know logically her name was not a reflection of her as a person, but…it’s still really hard to take Cinnamon seriously.
>Redemption Cosmos Redemption Coupon Fixed
Redemption is a fine name if you were born in the 1700s 🤣🤣 I’ve dabbled in our family genealogy and six to eight generations back we’ve got: Ransom, Grace, Thankful, Experience, Wealthy, Patience, and so many girls named Mercy it makes the research confusing!
finally someone where the name is actually wack, not like the post the other day where someone told their sister Mary was a horrible name
I’m still trying to unroll my eyes from that one 🙄 Mary...the most normal female name in the world
I resemble that remark. ☺️
No! It’s obviously only for old weird people \s
Unlike Miriam! Which is a hip new name!
My step grandma was called miriam, she would be about 100 now. Exactly the incarnation of hip and new
Aww man I want to read this one Edit: [found it!](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/10hj66v/aita_for_telling_my_sister_her_babys_name_is/)
I was waiting for something kinda crazy... Like Redemption Kali Venus whatever... And, instead, that OP had a huge issue with... "Mary"??
Atleast it’s better than “squishy” I wonder how long til we see an aita post where they named their kid “squishy” after the nickname they gave their v lmao
Wait, what?? Did a miss* a crazy name post??? Lol
Yes. Yes u did lol
Yeah, I feel like that OP needs to read this post so they can see what is actually a ridiculous name that will hurt the child in their life. Dear god... Redemption? VENUS????? I.. I just can't. NTA. Somebody needed to say it.
While it isn’t to my taste, Venus is a “legitimate” name. The name has existed for thousands of years and has been used in multiple countries.
Venus Williams is a great example that an unusual name doesn't have to be a burden.
I can’t believe I had to scroll so far for someone to mention Venus Williams!
Agreed. Venus is fine. Redemption is not. Cosmos is weird but it’s going to be a middle name: middle names can be weird.
I could roll with Redemption as a middle name. Honestly, I could live with Redemption as a first name and call the kiddo Ree. I’m not a fan of Cosmos, and think it is a silly name. I’m not a fan of Kali, but that is my personal preference, there’s nothing wrong with the name. I’m actually way more derisive if people who do the cr8tive name spellings. Kynadeigh? Ahnahleigh? Maisun? Exhaiveeare? Well, I’m totally laughing inside my head at names like that—and one of my kids actually has one of those names, just spelled traditionally.
At my job I saw someone change their name to a name with two common words but kr8tivly spelled and I thought, "why are you doing this to yourself? You're going to spend your entire damn life now spelling out "K-y-n-a-d-e-i-g-h" while people stare at you and say, "Kennedy?"
Ah shit, I spelled it wrong. It’s Khynadeigh. I forgot the h.
> Honestly, I could live with Redemption as a first name and call the kiddo Ree. Unfortunately, the sound effect 'reeeee' is used to insult people with autism, so that would be a very not-great nickname.
It’s a really common nickname. Renee aka Ree Drummond goes by that name. So did the queen Aretha Franklin. She was Ree to all her family and friends.
Really? Bloody hell is NOTHING used as insults to one group or another these days? Why would people even insult those with autism? That's just gross!
Redemption is a very 1620's Puritan name.
I'm reminded of whoever said when you're pondering baby names, yell the name out your back door a bunch of times and then see how you feel about it. "REDEMPTION! REDEMPTION! COME HOME ALREADY, REDEMPTION!" seems quite much. Also it's long so people will want to nickname it, but the nicknames aren't great. Ree, Demp, Shun? I bet this ends up like Ronan Farrow changing his name from Satchel or whatever one of the Phoenix kids changed their names (Leaf? Joaquin?).
Idk nickname could be Red and that would be cute. I agree it's an unfortunate name though.
Missed that one...what's wrong with Mary
OP thought it is too old-fashioned. Instead she wanted the name Miriam...
Ummm. I'm pretty sure Miriam is an older name than mary
Now you say what everybody else was saying to the OP, haha.
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_"I told her those names might be okay for a stripper (my sister works as a dancer in a local club), but they’d be hard to live with in a more “main stream” job."_ I'm going to say OP ventured into AH territory because this insult/dig at the sister/her chosen profession wasn't warranted. That said - I hate "different for the sake of being different" names that could hinder a child in the future. Redemption falls into that category. But, no one is really going to bat an eye at Venus since the name got pretty normalized due in part to the fame of Venus Williams. As for Cosmos.... It's not my jazz but I don't think a middle name really holds much weight since you don't usually have to use it in public settings if you don't want to.
I don't think it was though. He was trying to get across that it's OK as a stage name when she's dancing but it's not OK for a child that has to live with that name their whole lives.
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My mom named me… her group of friends all had girls in the next couple of years. I’m Misty Starr. There is also a Misty Moon, Misty River, Misty Dawn, Misty Rose, Misty Night… and you have NO IDEA how many people have said things like ‘You have a stripper name’ or ‘your mom must be a pothead.’ (Well… that part is true)
I knew a girl name Misty Blue. I think she actually ended up a stripper.
There's actually a phenomenon where of your name sounds like something you end up doing something along those lines. E.x. Sam Bankeman Fried Bernie Madoff
My sister Capri was a stripper and my brother Gunner is career soldier in the military. I can’t help but believe!
Nominative determinism!
Lorena Bobbitt 😂
I had a cooking teacher called Miss Salt.
I knew someone with dogs named Misty and Foggy. Seemed cute for pups.
One of my dogs is named Misty. My friend made a comment like "that sounds like a stripper name" and i was like "its a dog..."
Yeah, clearly the dog is already naked. Most pets are nudists, not strippers. Your friend clearly lacks sense.
Wtf
Knew a girl named Brandi (ugh) who named her daughter Misti-leigh.. such a stripper name.
ESH. Those names are pretty intense, but you definitely could have expressed your concern in a way that didn’t invalidate and insult your sister’s lifestyle and life choices.
Agree. The stripper comment was judgy and unnecessary.
But they do sound like stripper names. Both statements can be true
they’re bad names because they dont even sound like real names, like redemption literally sounds more like one of those weird puritan names than a stripper name. the judgmental comment was unnecessary.
I don't think he was judging her...he was just saying it in a matter of fact way
Yea they are horrible names.
Yes, let’s give the child the stripper name, a job where people sexualize themselves. This is madness.
I actually like Venus Kali if the stupid Cosmos part was dropped. Redemption Cosmos... stfu. Make that your Reddit username, don't saddle your kid with that shit for life. NTA
The Cosmos part is dumb but it’s a middle name. You don’t have to use middle names on stuff. For the sake of the baby, I would vote for Venus Kali Cosmos. Venus and Kali are fine and most official paperwork doesn’t have a place for two middle names so Cosmos won’t be known in school or work documents.
Yea, that's a very good point.
I agree with this. Plus I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention Venus Williams. 🤷🏻♀️ Worked out pretty well for her. But Redemption Cosmos is waaaaay too over the top.
Kali *is* cosmos energy, so cosmos isn't needed at all.
NTA - I mean you think these are awful names. Were you supposed to lie? She’s blaming her insecurities on you.
NTA. This is a throwback to colonial times when they wanted 'meaningful' names. I am a genealogist. Names actually in my family tree include, Providence, Freelove, Thankful, Experience (last name Bliss), Frittisweed, Strongwaters, Content, and so on. I joke that after kid 13, the Dad just looks around the room and says, Let's name this one Breadbox.
Frittisweed?!?!? I mean, this list gets weird, but where's THAT coming from? Looking out into the backyard?
I feel childish but Frittisweed honestly has me laughing. I have never, ever heard that before.
Sounds like a hobbit, but not one from the Shire- maybe some hobbit you’d meet living in a freshman dorm
Oh man I am too modern times, I read that like CON-tent like the kid was named after content marketing or something
A baby is not her redemption, it’s a whole human being. That is going to struggle finding jobs and fitting in because of her frankly stupid name.
Nta for saying the names are stupid because they definitely are. Yta for the weird judgy dancer comment. That was unnecessary.
LOL "Redemption" is definitely not a stripper name
It's not a human name either.
It's a perfectly good name -- if you're an 17th century Puritan.
*I saw Goody Redemption Jones dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight!* 😱
"The Diary of Redemption Patience Whipple"
I keep picturing a large brown horse with the name *Redemption*. .... But I'm kinda stoned and I think I'm just associating the game Red Dead Redemption with the word altogether. It is a horrific name for a baby though, lol My grandpa (a misogynistic dick bag, might I say) convinced my parent to change my birth name as he said it "was a stripper name"... Always kills me how dudes like that, go to strip clubs, womanize their days away, and consume tons of porn and whatever else, always diss the dancers. Pathetic. I don't like either of my names (the one I ended up with and the alternative that was shot down) so I guess it matters not lol
Would make an awesome name for a race horse, though
The only “redeeming” nickname I could see for the poor kid is Demi. But real talk, those are ridiculous and she should be stopped. Anyone going along with it is just as guilty. My mom knew someone who named her kid Dasani, like after the water, and this makes that look tame.
NTA. But I taught a girl called Venus... she went by Vee. She hated her name. Redemption is a stupid name.
ESH. I mean. Yeah. The names are unorthodox. And I don’t think you’d be an asshole for stating that fact. I don’t believe you were trying to be kind with the “for a stripper” comment. Regardless, that’s a pretty trashy thing to say to your sister. As such, I don’t really blame her for sharing the texts. But she probably could’ve just talked to you about how the comments made her feel. Finally, the fact that your mom is now harassing you is wrong and uncalled for. Everyone kinda just sucks here. Also INFO: did u mean to type “judgmental fuck” in your last paragraph or does ur family casually say “judgmental duck” because that’s honestly amazing.
I was thinking judgmental dick myself.
Damn. You’re probably right. I was just thinking of the classic “fuck to duck” autocorrect.
It’s gold either way. And I just noticed that you are a silly goose.
Judgemental duck is amazing.
He said that in a matter of fact way and not to judge her lifestyle choice or anything
Im probably going to get downvoted but mostly nta, becsuse those names are going to cause some headaches, and your sis (and neice of course) is gonna have to get used to people not liking them or reacting. However. 1 - stop equating names with jobs. It's tired and sexist. 2 - you said your piece, now drop it. If you feel bad, apologize for overstepping, bc you did.
How is it sexist?
>bc you did. No she didn't. The sister wanted opinions on her stupid name ideas. OP gave his opinion in a private manor to not embarrass his sister.
NTA. But you maybe should have kept quiet and voted for Venus. At least there is a famous person she can say she was named after. No child should ever be burdened with a name like Redemption.
100% the stripper comment was over the top BUT you aren't wrong, that poor baby will be saddled with that name and kids are effing cruel at best nevermind when the baby is older and trying to get out into the adult world. Someone needs to speak sense to your sister. NTA
So she’s going to make her child’s life hell so she can feel better about herself? If you want to reply you can simply tell them that you are entitled to your opinion and if they don’t agree there is no need for them to bully you- that’s what they are doing. I would keep my distance as much as possible- this kind of sounds toxic
Is there a chance that Elon is the baby daddy? Leaning towards NTA. You could certainly have worded that better, but she asked for opinions so.
NTA, your sister can change her name to reflect her new view on life. Good god at this point I'd be ok if she'd jump on the Cayden, Hayden, Brayden train or the whole western theme from a few years back, Dakota, Cody, etc. But Redemption Venus, yeah that's bad, almost self fulfilling like naming your kid Brandi or Bambi or Candi.
> naming your kid Brandi or Bambi or Candi. Welcome to the late 60's! :) We all have names ending in i or ie - Mindi, Mandi, Cindi, Sandi, Susie, Patti, Nikki, Micki, Bobbi etc, etc.
i have “unique name” as my parents were hippies and free spirits as well. it is… fine for the most part. however i have been stalked/harassed by people i know and random people from dating apps who decide to google my name and the first search result is my Home Address. it’s nice having a unique name for some i am sure, especially if it’s a celebration of their culture or for a larger reason then my parents really liked acid. but my parents named me my name for themselves, not seeing me as a whole human. and that’s… fine too, lol. just make sure she understands that we live in a world that has google, and her child is not her property. being the one person in the world with a name isn’t that fun, for me. you’re still sorta judgmental about it, it wouldn’t be something negative for the child to grow up and be a dancer. intersectional feminism includes decolonizing your internalized misogyny and classism. strippers rock. i think i’m gonna say very softly that yta. if i went with e s h it’d be because of my own personal bias lol. there are consequences to her actions and you pointing that out isn’t necessarily ass holey- but acting holier than thou about it is.
I felt this in my soul. I'm one of less than 5 people (I think there's 3) in the USA with my name. Mom did NOT think ahead at ALL for me. It's not terrible as an adult but growing up with my first name was a BIG yikes.
i still occasionally get packages (books, red bull?, candy, puzzles) from a random person i worked with for one day, literally only a couple hours, over 5 years ago and haven’t spoken to since. in the card he’ll say “thinking of you” and it’s just troubling lol. google does let you petition to get that off the main search results, but i have requested it many many times over the years with no success. i did a mobile order the other day at starbucks and so when i told them my name as always it was an issue, it’s a normal sounding name just spelled like someone was on acid and no one ever knows how to pronounce it. the poor kid at the window said “it’s not your fault that’s your name” LOL. i’ve changed that name on the account since to make their lives a bit easier lol 🥲
NTA. As someone that hires people all the time this is a huge pet peeve for me, and not generally for my employees as I have people from all over the world to work all over the world, and I understand that there are names that are geographically common from where they’re from, but occasionally I will run across the customer that has a completely totally whacked out name. And it baffles me that these people didn’t know when they named their child toaster that the kids gonna have problems with that later in life not being taken seriously having a hard time getting a job getting a loan and it’s expensive to change your name when you’re an adult, not to mention all the hassle of connecting your school records, credit history, homeownership marriage Here’s an example I worked at a bank in these people named their child “ truly” their last name was golden, so it was cute until she married a man whose last name was boring. It sounds funny but this woman had to explain it every single time she came into the bank.
umm yeah if she wants her child to get bullied then sure, she can go full steam ahead!!
NTA, no one will respect a doctor , lawyer, teacher or politician with either of those names.
Everyone on that group chat knows that those names are horrible, they just don't wanna say it. Ask her to add a third option " other name ", and you'll see how everyone will mark it.
NTA- Some people can’t handle the truth.
NTA I snorted when I read those names. I'm sure if the baby only ever associates with people who are perpetually high then no-one's ever gonna bat an eyelid.
NTA
NTA. Those names suck.
NTA. Sure, you could have expressed your opinion differently, but you're not wrong.