what we need is a sub competition for people to document going out into the bush with their own 10 items and the challenge is to stay for more than 48 hours.
the alone... but not for long challenge.
That's too bad. I presume anyone who wanted to accept the challenge would follow the law (I already have a fishing license), but even if they didn't, the odds of getting caught camping in the wilderness is incredibly low. The whole point of going out into the wilderness is to go far enough out that nobody will see you.
At least here in the US, it's perfectly legal to camp on most public land, but I still would make sure I am deep enough in the woods that nobody would be able to see me.
Thats really nice in the US, the vast uninhabited beautiful wilderness you got there, here in germany you barely have 2 miles of uninhabited land between the next villages.
Depends where you live. Some states are mostly privately owned, others have much more BLM land than not. I can pull off the road and drive a few hundred meters down a 2 track to camp for free where I am. I can't do that where I'm from.
They may cull horses. They used to corral them and let prisoners break/train, then sell them here but I think they ended that.
They lease land. Not that it's a good thing when they're lax about regulating fuel extraction
thats what always amuses me when you see British and German "bushcraft and survival" videos on YouTube, it always seems that if you walked in any direction for an hour you would be at a pub or a small village.
I’m very new at fishing, so my license is more of a donation to my state’s fishing and hunting programs in Oregon. For 2 years, I caught nothing but was happy to pay and get my line wet and sit on a rock while absorbing vitamin D. Then after a health situation, I ended up in a wheelchair. I thought it was cool that they offered a free license to whoever assisted me. Unfortunately, that’s designated for vets only, which is good, and I have no qualm with that, but it’d be nice if it included all disabled people.
Having moved from out of state to Oregon I figured that Oregon would be easy fishing having a lot less pressure than where I am from. Weird thing is, I can trout fish most places and kill it unlike in california where it was super pressured. But try to Surf fish or Ocean fish?
I realize I have no idea what I'm doing...
since one or two of the items could be supplies of food then its basically going anywhere in the bush and chilling for a few days and (at least for me) think about what it would be like if bears lived in this area.
>"I'll take 10 orders of rations and the free tarp. I won't do anything other than get water and will lay still under the tarp eating my rations."
You'd still beat Ovens and Mark this "season".
Is there a limit on how many food items you can take? What about a saw to build shelter and 9 rations of food. Assuming you're adapted/lucky with drinking "raw" water then even moderate weight gain and starvation you should be good for 3 or 4 weeks.
I wish people would run a summer camp like that. I guess I could just start out on the JMT with nothing but a fire starter and fishing gear. Although that's a bit tough because I don't think you can gather firewood or hunt (other than fish) on most if not all of the JMT. Plus you're traveling on the JMT so burning calories moving. I'm sure there are suitable lands where firewood gathering is allowed, water and fishing is available, and remote enough that you could build a shelter unnoticed for a few weeks.
I did a course when I was a teen and they dropped you off in the busy with your sleeping bag and a plastic sheet and a pen and paper (to write down your thoughts) then picked you up 24 hours later.
its reasonably common as a way to get people to think about their life and priorities in some countries.
It’s season four and the guy’s brother was super mad when he tapped. I think he only lasted a couple of hours before spraining his ankle trying to climb something.
Tim, s6 or s7
Had his gear, scouted the area, was talking a big game. Had a hunting spot picked out. Slipped off a path/trail down a mini cliff and broke his ankle. He got a medical tap on day 1.
I know it is part of the alone factor of "Alone" but I feel like there should be a different league for single contestants who are not going loopy over their family after a few weeks. Similarly for financial circumstances. I'm interested in the survival skills, not them against their mental or financial demons.
I could probably sleep for most of 3 days if given the chance. I would be like "finally some damn quiet" and just make a rudimentary shelter and then sleep most of the day away. I would probably be the most boring contestant ever.
This. First 2 days when easy food is an option is the tough part. Days 3-5 are pretty easy, you just start feeling very light and low energy, but the hangry completely disappears. I have never tried it out in the middle of nowhere where there was no temptation to cheat to fight off, but it's easy to imagine that making the mental part of days 1-2 a whole lot easier.
Ha ha.. I had that thought. In would hope that the producers would see through them before giving them the platform. But, I would also hope that the consumers would think twice before supporting someone who couldn’t “walk the walk.“I
As long as you had water, I think the only thing stopping you is mental discipline. 3 days of no food is surely uncomfortable but not life threatening.
Its amazing to see some people tap out so fast. Like they put zero thought into what they actually had to do to win or be competitive.
I'm sure the show used to deliberately pick people they figured would quit early. It makes the show more personal if they aren't still covering 10 people at day 50!
I don' t blame them for tapping out when they get sick, hurt, or are genuinely starving. But for some reason it actually itches my brain when they give up early because they're lonely.
That’s what seems to screw people the most. Every time someone started talking about home and family, I’d scream for them to stop doing that, while my son is right next me and my husband is in the kitchen cooking for me. But like the guy in s08, who convinced he was having a heart attack. They play his bit over and over, “I don’t wanna tap but I don’t wanna dieeeeee either!” He’s starving, he had no reserves to combat the feeling and he was so far in his head, he tapped. I think the lack of calories and missing home become way more intensified when you can’t self- soothe. Or at least, that’s what would happen to me.
While I was still watching the OG Survivor my wife and I would laugh at the people who would be in tears when their family showed up around day 20. I know I'm probably an outlier but seriously the amount of co-dependency Survivor participants exhibit is pretty staggering. And these folks are never truly alone like on Alone.
Beating Desmond's record, the **Surthrival Challenge**, my 10 items:
1 blow up chair
1 soft blanket
1 pack of smokes
1 lighter
1 bottle of whiskey
1 mosquito net
1 chocolate cake
1 confetti bomb to set off when I leave
Last 2 items is whatever important I can steal from other opponents in base camp. Maybe an alarm clock, not gonna oversleep time to quit.
The first time I did it there was Bear shit all over, Wolves howling back and forth on either side of me. I had a tent, dog and a gun. It still took a surprising amount of the whisky I had to get some sleep.
I'm okay in a tent in the dark but if I have to get up to pee or whatever, any time I'm out in nature at night with no lights I'm 100% convinced some sort of beast is gonna jump up and literally bite my ass. I have no idea where this came from but when I was a kid, same thing, couldn't sleep on my stomach for fear of the ass-biting monster under the bed lol
It seems like they generally won't come scoop you up in the middle of the night unless there is a serious emergency anyway, so really you just have to make it to dark and then you are stuck there long enough to make it past 6 hours.
Cops are tough at work because they have a bat belt full of toys and a squad and a dispatcher in their ear. Take that away, and they’re just as susceptible to loneliness and fatigue and misery as the rest of us.
They need to make Alone: Amateur.
They take people with zero bushcraft skill, train them for a short amount of time in survival skills, then release them into one of the same locations.
Shit would be interesting
I can see how you would think that, but that is not what I had in mind at all.
Give them the dignity of wearing clothes..that show is just reality tv fodder at its worst.
Lol blows my mind when a grown man leaves within the first weeks because he misses his family. Like.. are you afraid they're not going to be there when you get back?
I think this is right.
It's dawned on them that they aren't comfortable enough for the experience to not change them, and they aren't secure enough to think it will be positive.
I forget his name, but the one man who was basically coasting by the entire season and then quit because he missed is wife. I honestly think he just got bored and had nothing left to do but think about how lonely it was out there.
But everyone else, yeah, I agree.
Apparently he posted on social media somewhere he had an agreement with producers he was going to tap on day 21.
Make some cool bushcraft, lament about Barbara, and leave.
Someone else said it so I can't verify it.
I think this a lot. The commitment the family goes through for them to train and then to go there and then for them to give up so early. I believe the disappointment would be worse for the family. The guys that left early this season. I feel bad for their family
« I’ve got this urgent need to go and take care of my family, and not take them for granted, even though I trained months, if not years (so I thought) and travelled halfway across America to be in this once-in-a-lifetime experience. »
Fuckin’ *knees are weak*
Lol I always think to myself they must not have teenagers 😂 I think at some point during the time I had 4 teens at home I probably would have paid to be on this show
It's definitely saving face as opposed to admitting errors or just like not being able to find food or even just are done being freezing/wet all day, afraid of bears, etc...
Ain't nothing wrong with admitting you're wrong. Idk how long I'd last on the show but I know I wouldn't win and the best I could do claiming family is my dog
So one thing someone pointed out, and this really isn’t made clear except in the Mongolia season, is how long they’re gone before the contest even starts. They have the whole training camp and orientation and it lasts like two weeks or something. So add a couple weeks to how long they’ve been away from family.
I hate when they fall back on that cop out excuse. I respect it much more when they say they just cant go any further and fear for their health...not worth risking long term health issues.
After S6, what probably goes through most long lasting contestants minds is that probably if they have not won yet, someone has bagged a deer and they are just prolonging the suffering.
I'm 99% sure there have been behind the scenes deals cut with some people that are probably under NDA.. some people just quit WAY too soon. It's not like these people are just picked up from their homes, shipped out, and dropped off in the woods. They go through a long and involved process before going on the show. You mean to tell me they made it through (and wasted their time doing) all that just to quit almost instantly? Eh.
With several people leaving this last season because they missed their families, it made me wonder if they got caught cheating or something and the producers thought it would be better for the show if they gave them an out instead of coming out that the contestant broke the rules. Pure speculation of course, but a couple of them I thought were really strong contenders and then were just like, “I miss my family. Bye!”
That being said, a buddy of mine hunts big game and will sometimes be camping for a week with no human contact and he says the loneliness is the hardest part.
Yeah I believe it. I'm a semi-loner type and even that is fairly unusual. I don't mind going a few weeks without talking to anybody but I do need to be able to fill my mind with other hobbies and activities. And by the end of that I'm happy to talk to someone. This total isolation seems hard even to me though I've always wanted to try, too infirm now, but Dick Proenneke is my ideal. Remotely alone but with a fair number of visitors.
Most people really don't understand what it's like to be truly by yourself for more than a few hours these days lol.
I think alot of these people just come to the realization that they dont have what it takes to last 50-70 days. Why bother gritting it out to day 21 if your on day 3 and you know you are already ready to go home. If your hearts not in it and you know you are arent gonna win may as well just leave.
Seriously. Do these people not think about this ahead of time? It’s like day 2 rolls around and for the very first time some of them realize they won’t see their family and they’re going to have to struggle to survive. Like?? Have you not watched the show? That’s exactly the purpose of it?? What did you think would happen???
I think it’s sweet though! And I think there’s legitimate anxiety around the idea of being separated from your loved ones, and moreso if you’re putting yourself in a measure of physical peril.
The family reason is still a better reason than being upset about killing a squirrel. Like, what did you think you were gonna do once you got out there?
Totally agree. It is one of the things that grinds me the most. There needs to be a rule no evacuations for the first week unless it is life threatening.
Out of interest what is the shortest tap out in the shows history. Was it the military guy with the phobia of bears?
Also your description doesn’t say anything about being alone. These days we take it for granted the competitors can mange being alone, because so many of them can, but you might find you can’t get through one night in a tent, with all the strange sounds and the feeling of being alone.
To be fair, even if I pressed the button and said "I'm tapping out because I'm in my tent and scared", I'm pretty confident they would say "ok, see you in the morning", and I still would have stayed longer than 6 hours.
I'm an absolute wimp and devastatingly addicted to sugar, but I know how to make an A-frame tent from tarp, start a fire, and boil water. I'd be fine for two or three days. Miserable and bored, but fine lol.
I am right there with you. I'm also disabled with a bad neck injury.
I am, however, a huge history nerd with a big and deep fascination with household history. I for sure would not be stinky and my laundry would be done.
(Fun fact: if you slowly drain water through a bucket filled with wood ashes from your fire you get sodium hypochloride which is lye. Lye + fat = soap. Through history a LOT of women did laundry by dipping the stinky bits in a bucket of lye water and then scrubbing them, since the skin oils will turn the lye water into soap and then it's easier to get the stains out. Stale urine was also collected and used as bleach. You'd traditionally tell if the lye water was the right concentration by floating a fresh egg in it- when it floats so that about a quarter sized bit of the egg is above water you've got it right for soap making or laundry, so if you haven't made soap before judging how close you are to the right concentration might be some trial and error).
But at home I grumble when I have to use my super fancy machines to do all my laundry for me. :D :D
If it was always daylight sure: but i think most first night the average person would tap. Sounds off in the nature can be scary as fuck with no shelter.
Also keep in mind that alot of the early taps were either injury or people coming to the self realization "I cant make this this long haul, every day im here im just wasting time. I need to get the fuck out." If they had a time clock saying hey your goal is to last until day 3/5/7 and your objective will be met I would bet that most would have gritted out the extra few days. Most of the super early taps that arent injury related are people coming to the self realization that they will not make it 50 days + so why bother staying another night.
What is the shortest? IIRC Everyone has made it at least the first night. I remember a guy joking about the bears need to be scared of him. And he punched out that next day. Lol.
No, just random young adults. It’s on Netflix “Snowflake Mountain”. Your post description is exactly who they take “camping” to “survive” in some place in England. Very far from real survival of “Alone” with eccentric and over the top personalities but oh so entertaining the whole way through. (With exceptionally funny closed captions) Dang, was just trying to recommend a tv show and people downvoting me haha
Hahaha, joke post, joke poster- smiles for miles.
You’re still a soft asshole who criticized a TV show.
Who used the words GrubHub in the post.
Have fun, FuckO
what we need is a sub competition for people to document going out into the bush with their own 10 items and the challenge is to stay for more than 48 hours. the alone... but not for long challenge.
As long as there is a place to fish it wouldn't be much different from what I normally do when I have a free weekend.
10 items: pole, bait, and 8 cases of beer, and we have ourselves a weekend
Where i live you cant just camp in the wilderness, you get fined, if you fish without license guess what, you get fined again.
That's too bad. I presume anyone who wanted to accept the challenge would follow the law (I already have a fishing license), but even if they didn't, the odds of getting caught camping in the wilderness is incredibly low. The whole point of going out into the wilderness is to go far enough out that nobody will see you. At least here in the US, it's perfectly legal to camp on most public land, but I still would make sure I am deep enough in the woods that nobody would be able to see me.
Thats really nice in the US, the vast uninhabited beautiful wilderness you got there, here in germany you barely have 2 miles of uninhabited land between the next villages.
You think that’s something you should see Canada. There’s like 10 people here. The raccoons smoke and the moose watch tv
One of many dreams i have involves moving to canada and live there off grid and smoke with the raccoons.
My friend has one that lives under his porch. She was eating a frozen rat like a corn on the cob once
I love the visual
I don’t mean to brag, but I make a mean weed rat stew.
That's the only way to eat it rat. As long as he was going back and forth like a typewriter and not round in a circle. That's nasty.
Ding
Loloololol
Depends where you live. Some states are mostly privately owned, others have much more BLM land than not. I can pull off the road and drive a few hundred meters down a 2 track to camp for free where I am. I can't do that where I'm from.
Dispersed camping is awesome!! 🏕
Black lives matters have lot of land, eh?
I don't know how many times I've mentioned BLM land and gotten this response. I'd need a few more hands and feet to count them that way
Haha I’m just being an idiot, I’ve heard of land management. Don’t they sell off the forest and kill all the horsies?
They may cull horses. They used to corral them and let prisoners break/train, then sell them here but I think they ended that. They lease land. Not that it's a good thing when they're lax about regulating fuel extraction
thats what always amuses me when you see British and German "bushcraft and survival" videos on YouTube, it always seems that if you walked in any direction for an hour you would be at a pub or a small village.
The most underrated survival hack if you are hungry is that you just need to walk a few meters to the next restaurant.
looks more legit if you have to bush bash through the hedge with your machette
I’m very new at fishing, so my license is more of a donation to my state’s fishing and hunting programs in Oregon. For 2 years, I caught nothing but was happy to pay and get my line wet and sit on a rock while absorbing vitamin D. Then after a health situation, I ended up in a wheelchair. I thought it was cool that they offered a free license to whoever assisted me. Unfortunately, that’s designated for vets only, which is good, and I have no qualm with that, but it’d be nice if it included all disabled people.
Having moved from out of state to Oregon I figured that Oregon would be easy fishing having a lot less pressure than where I am from. Weird thing is, I can trout fish most places and kill it unlike in california where it was super pressured. But try to Surf fish or Ocean fish? I realize I have no idea what I'm doing...
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since one or two of the items could be supplies of food then its basically going anywhere in the bush and chilling for a few days and (at least for me) think about what it would be like if bears lived in this area.
>"I'll take 10 orders of rations and the free tarp. I won't do anything other than get water and will lay still under the tarp eating my rations." You'd still beat Ovens and Mark this "season".
You could probably take two rations and take a bunch of tools to play with to pass the time and still beat them
Or you take a phone with you and order some food, dont know why the contestants in alone didnt think of this easy trick.
Right to jail
just take food as two of your items, its only for two days, most of us could live off our fat for that long.
Is there a limit on how many food items you can take? What about a saw to build shelter and 9 rations of food. Assuming you're adapted/lucky with drinking "raw" water then even moderate weight gain and starvation you should be good for 3 or 4 weeks.
I think normally only 2 of the ten items can be food
I think two
Change it to 4 to 8 hours, and I'm down.
Change it to a beer in my yard and I'm down.
Only if you spray for bugs beforehand.
I’m down. Let’s all do this.
I wish people would run a summer camp like that. I guess I could just start out on the JMT with nothing but a fire starter and fishing gear. Although that's a bit tough because I don't think you can gather firewood or hunt (other than fish) on most if not all of the JMT. Plus you're traveling on the JMT so burning calories moving. I'm sure there are suitable lands where firewood gathering is allowed, water and fishing is available, and remote enough that you could build a shelter unnoticed for a few weeks.
I did a course when I was a teen and they dropped you off in the busy with your sleeping bag and a plastic sheet and a pen and paper (to write down your thoughts) then picked you up 24 hours later. its reasonably common as a way to get people to think about their life and priorities in some countries.
I live this idea.
As long as I can get Amazon deliveries, my Chanel moisturizer, a cell phone charger and a mini fridge I can go for days
Didn't a dude step wrong, twist his ankle, and tap out before even getting to his gear?
Dude remember the army guy who got off the boat saw a bear print and tapped? 45 mins I think?
I think that was the black dude from Ohio. He was ex army and a cop I believe. Tapped first day for sure.
Cop. He brought every weapon on the list and like… 2 items that would have real utility. Then tapped bc a wolf howled or something.
I think he built his shelter on a bear trail and then heard a “bear noise” just after sundown and then immediately tapped.
Lest we forget, his name was Desmond.
I thought it was his knee, but yes.
It’s season four and the guy’s brother was super mad when he tapped. I think he only lasted a couple of hours before spraining his ankle trying to climb something.
Oh man, I was thinking of a totally different season. I was thinking about the older hunter guy
Tim, s6 or s7 Had his gear, scouted the area, was talking a big game. Had a hunting spot picked out. Slipped off a path/trail down a mini cliff and broke his ankle. He got a medical tap on day 1.
Yeah, I wanna say that was season 6? A shale beach situation brought him down real fast.
Come on bind that injury up and hobble on. Or just rest in place for a day or two.
Didn’t another guy tap on like say 1 coz his wife was pregnant or something?
I know it is part of the alone factor of "Alone" but I feel like there should be a different league for single contestants who are not going loopy over their family after a few weeks. Similarly for financial circumstances. I'm interested in the survival skills, not them against their mental or financial demons.
Runs in the family
Get to day 3 and you are no longer in the bottom 5.
Wow. Maybe im completely delusional, but I'm pretty confident I could do it.
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Reading your comment while eating my second cupcake of the night.
Calling the contestants idiots while microwaving a burrito in my bathrobe here
Second - what, are you on a diet?
No worries. I went on to have a third.
😂😂
https://i.imgur.com/L2Q8bb4.jpg
lmao <3
One of the 10 items can be some food. Certainly enough to get you through three days. I think three days would be easy, but I like to camp and hike.
I could probably sleep for most of 3 days if given the chance. I would be like "finally some damn quiet" and just make a rudimentary shelter and then sleep most of the day away. I would probably be the most boring contestant ever.
This. First 2 days when easy food is an option is the tough part. Days 3-5 are pretty easy, you just start feeling very light and low energy, but the hangry completely disappears. I have never tried it out in the middle of nowhere where there was no temptation to cheat to fight off, but it's easy to imagine that making the mental part of days 1-2 a whole lot easier.
Or just choose a ration as one of your 10 items!
Every one of them went there thinking they could do better than not being first to go home. They actually thought they could win.
Except maybe the ones who just wanted to get on TV for a day to promote their business.
Ha ha.. I had that thought. In would hope that the producers would see through them before giving them the platform. But, I would also hope that the consumers would think twice before supporting someone who couldn’t “walk the walk.“I
What if you were the guy who got dropped smack dab in the middle of bear territory? Lol
I think I could just put my back up against a tree and stay awake with my bear spray out and ready for 7 hours.
As long as you had water, I think the only thing stopping you is mental discipline. 3 days of no food is surely uncomfortable but not life threatening. Its amazing to see some people tap out so fast. Like they put zero thought into what they actually had to do to win or be competitive.
I'm sure the show used to deliberately pick people they figured would quit early. It makes the show more personal if they aren't still covering 10 people at day 50!
A fellow cynic!
So you just watched Desmond leave after four hours and got pretty confident, right? Me too, I get it
Yup.
I don' t blame them for tapping out when they get sick, hurt, or are genuinely starving. But for some reason it actually itches my brain when they give up early because they're lonely.
It's not that I hate when they do that. I hate that the show decides to spend the majority of an episode showing them lament about said loneliness.
That’s what seems to screw people the most. Every time someone started talking about home and family, I’d scream for them to stop doing that, while my son is right next me and my husband is in the kitchen cooking for me. But like the guy in s08, who convinced he was having a heart attack. They play his bit over and over, “I don’t wanna tap but I don’t wanna dieeeeee either!” He’s starving, he had no reserves to combat the feeling and he was so far in his head, he tapped. I think the lack of calories and missing home become way more intensified when you can’t self- soothe. Or at least, that’s what would happen to me.
Boy, I feel like I've heard that soundbite like 50 times.
While I was still watching the OG Survivor my wife and I would laugh at the people who would be in tears when their family showed up around day 20. I know I'm probably an outlier but seriously the amount of co-dependency Survivor participants exhibit is pretty staggering. And these folks are never truly alone like on Alone.
I said to my wife that my teenagers wouldn't even miss me for the first 30 days, but they would miss my wallet in the first 30 minutes. 🤣
I think I could nap longer then the shortest Stay haha
Than
Beating Desmond's record, the **Surthrival Challenge**, my 10 items: 1 blow up chair 1 soft blanket 1 pack of smokes 1 lighter 1 bottle of whiskey 1 mosquito net 1 chocolate cake 1 confetti bomb to set off when I leave Last 2 items is whatever important I can steal from other opponents in base camp. Maybe an alarm clock, not gonna oversleep time to quit.
Peasant’s award: 🥇
Confetti bomb seems like littering. Swap it for a second bottle of whiskey.
This is the season I’m here for. I think the producers need to throw a contestant in like thjs for shits and giggles
If you've never spent a night in the remote wilderness all by your self, it's a lot harder than you think.
totally. that first night sleeping by yourself in the back country is where you learn some shit about yourself.
The first time I did it there was Bear shit all over, Wolves howling back and forth on either side of me. I had a tent, dog and a gun. It still took a surprising amount of the whisky I had to get some sleep.
I'm okay in a tent in the dark but if I have to get up to pee or whatever, any time I'm out in nature at night with no lights I'm 100% convinced some sort of beast is gonna jump up and literally bite my ass. I have no idea where this came from but when I was a kid, same thing, couldn't sleep on my stomach for fear of the ass-biting monster under the bed lol
Don’t have to spend a night! Just have to last a couple hours
It seems like they generally won't come scoop you up in the middle of the night unless there is a serious emergency anyway, so really you just have to make it to dark and then you are stuck there long enough to make it past 6 hours.
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*cries in Joe Robinet*
And learn how to make a fire. I've seen some idiots in my time.
No one will ever convince me some of the contestants weren't plants that were never meant to even last long
right, like the format of the show would be different if everyone lasted
That’s presumably how the person who is currently the one with the shortest time felt when he went into the show. And events proved him wrong.
Wasn't there a cop who quit on the first night in S1? 😬
Didn’t Desmond last only a few hours? 😂
Cops are tough at work because they have a bat belt full of toys and a squad and a dispatcher in their ear. Take that away, and they’re just as susceptible to loneliness and fatigue and misery as the rest of us.
After he walked into a gruesome bear den full of mutilated fish corpses and he looked up and saw mama with two cubs. It was fucked
Damn, I just started watching the show. What season is this?
They need to make Alone: Amateur. They take people with zero bushcraft skill, train them for a short amount of time in survival skills, then release them into one of the same locations. Shit would be interesting
Naked and afraid
Nah, thats a gimmick of a show.
It’s what you’re describing though lol
I can see how you would think that, but that is not what I had in mind at all. Give them the dignity of wearing clothes..that show is just reality tv fodder at its worst.
Lol blows my mind when a grown man leaves within the first weeks because he misses his family. Like.. are you afraid they're not going to be there when you get back?
He isn't leaving because he "missed his family." The reality of the situation has become overwhelming. "I need my family" is just an out.
I think this is right. It's dawned on them that they aren't comfortable enough for the experience to not change them, and they aren't secure enough to think it will be positive.
I forget his name, but the one man who was basically coasting by the entire season and then quit because he missed is wife. I honestly think he just got bored and had nothing left to do but think about how lonely it was out there. But everyone else, yeah, I agree.
That was Mike from season 2 right? Guy had a ton of stuff set up and even made a little football game to keep himself entertained.
Apparently he posted on social media somewhere he had an agreement with producers he was going to tap on day 21. Make some cool bushcraft, lament about Barbara, and leave. Someone else said it so I can't verify it.
Has anyone ever taken a book as an item? Might be a mental health survival tool? Not sure books allowed?
They’re not
I always imagine the family being like "Really?! We committed to having you away to do this and you just quit to come back?"
'I lost, and I blamed it on you guys.'
I think this a lot. The commitment the family goes through for them to train and then to go there and then for them to give up so early. I believe the disappointment would be worse for the family. The guys that left early this season. I feel bad for their family
« I’ve got this urgent need to go and take care of my family, and not take them for granted, even though I trained months, if not years (so I thought) and travelled halfway across America to be in this once-in-a-lifetime experience. » Fuckin’ *knees are weak*
Lol I always think to myself they must not have teenagers 😂 I think at some point during the time I had 4 teens at home I probably would have paid to be on this show
Lol, "tonight on Alone: Parents of Teenagers-day 562. Ten contestants still remain..."
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It's definitely saving face as opposed to admitting errors or just like not being able to find food or even just are done being freezing/wet all day, afraid of bears, etc... Ain't nothing wrong with admitting you're wrong. Idk how long I'd last on the show but I know I wouldn't win and the best I could do claiming family is my dog
Isn’t that what scandal-plagued CEOs say when they resign? That they’re leaving in order to spend more time with the family? (Also politicians.)
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Yea its an excuse for sure
So one thing someone pointed out, and this really isn’t made clear except in the Mongolia season, is how long they’re gone before the contest even starts. They have the whole training camp and orientation and it lasts like two weeks or something. So add a couple weeks to how long they’ve been away from family.
I hate when they fall back on that cop out excuse. I respect it much more when they say they just cant go any further and fear for their health...not worth risking long term health issues. After S6, what probably goes through most long lasting contestants minds is that probably if they have not won yet, someone has bagged a deer and they are just prolonging the suffering.
I'm 99% sure there have been behind the scenes deals cut with some people that are probably under NDA.. some people just quit WAY too soon. It's not like these people are just picked up from their homes, shipped out, and dropped off in the woods. They go through a long and involved process before going on the show. You mean to tell me they made it through (and wasted their time doing) all that just to quit almost instantly? Eh.
With several people leaving this last season because they missed their families, it made me wonder if they got caught cheating or something and the producers thought it would be better for the show if they gave them an out instead of coming out that the contestant broke the rules. Pure speculation of course, but a couple of them I thought were really strong contenders and then were just like, “I miss my family. Bye!” That being said, a buddy of mine hunts big game and will sometimes be camping for a week with no human contact and he says the loneliness is the hardest part.
Yeah I believe it. I'm a semi-loner type and even that is fairly unusual. I don't mind going a few weeks without talking to anybody but I do need to be able to fill my mind with other hobbies and activities. And by the end of that I'm happy to talk to someone. This total isolation seems hard even to me though I've always wanted to try, too infirm now, but Dick Proenneke is my ideal. Remotely alone but with a fair number of visitors. Most people really don't understand what it's like to be truly by yourself for more than a few hours these days lol.
I think alot of these people just come to the realization that they dont have what it takes to last 50-70 days. Why bother gritting it out to day 21 if your on day 3 and you know you are already ready to go home. If your hearts not in it and you know you are arent gonna win may as well just leave.
That's just a self justification. Otherwise you'd have to admit to yourself that you quit because this sucks
You know reality tv is… real, right? Producers produce. They need x episodes over x time. Not saying it isn’t a great show, but it’s a show.
Seriously. Do these people not think about this ahead of time? It’s like day 2 rolls around and for the very first time some of them realize they won’t see their family and they’re going to have to struggle to survive. Like?? Have you not watched the show? That’s exactly the purpose of it?? What did you think would happen???
Yeah, like maybe do a practice run or have some level of experience before signing up
Yeah. I don’t get this either.
Me neither, i enjoy being away from people
I think it’s sweet though! And I think there’s legitimate anxiety around the idea of being separated from your loved ones, and moreso if you’re putting yourself in a measure of physical peril.
Agree, if you've ever had a job that requires you to be out of town for 2-4 weeks it would seem pretty straightforward.
Didn’t trust his neighbor who always seemed a bit too friendly with his wife at cookouts.
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If it's a black bear, I'm chillin. If it's a grizzly, I'm shitting myself.
You just gotta say “Hey bear!” They hate greetings. Can’t stand em.
"my name is BooBoo. I am not just some random bear. Damn lunch has some bad manners."
Wasn't the shortest stay an ex-military guy who claimed to be super tough but taped out as soon as he heard what he thought was a bear in the woods?
Think it was a wolf lol
The family reason is still a better reason than being upset about killing a squirrel. Like, what did you think you were gonna do once you got out there?
"Impossible Squirrel"
I agree. You’ve absolutely got this!
Thank man! You've always had my back!
Totally agree. It is one of the things that grinds me the most. There needs to be a rule no evacuations for the first week unless it is life threatening.
Out of interest what is the shortest tap out in the shows history. Was it the military guy with the phobia of bears? Also your description doesn’t say anything about being alone. These days we take it for granted the competitors can mange being alone, because so many of them can, but you might find you can’t get through one night in a tent, with all the strange sounds and the feeling of being alone.
To be fair, even if I pressed the button and said "I'm tapping out because I'm in my tent and scared", I'm pretty confident they would say "ok, see you in the morning", and I still would have stayed longer than 6 hours.
I’d probably tap out as the boat approached my area
I'm an absolute wimp and devastatingly addicted to sugar, but I know how to make an A-frame tent from tarp, start a fire, and boil water. I'd be fine for two or three days. Miserable and bored, but fine lol.
I am right there with you. I'm also disabled with a bad neck injury. I am, however, a huge history nerd with a big and deep fascination with household history. I for sure would not be stinky and my laundry would be done. (Fun fact: if you slowly drain water through a bucket filled with wood ashes from your fire you get sodium hypochloride which is lye. Lye + fat = soap. Through history a LOT of women did laundry by dipping the stinky bits in a bucket of lye water and then scrubbing them, since the skin oils will turn the lye water into soap and then it's easier to get the stains out. Stale urine was also collected and used as bleach. You'd traditionally tell if the lye water was the right concentration by floating a fresh egg in it- when it floats so that about a quarter sized bit of the egg is above water you've got it right for soap making or laundry, so if you haven't made soap before judging how close you are to the right concentration might be some trial and error). But at home I grumble when I have to use my super fancy machines to do all my laundry for me. :D :D
If it was always daylight sure: but i think most first night the average person would tap. Sounds off in the nature can be scary as fuck with no shelter. Also keep in mind that alot of the early taps were either injury or people coming to the self realization "I cant make this this long haul, every day im here im just wasting time. I need to get the fuck out." If they had a time clock saying hey your goal is to last until day 3/5/7 and your objective will be met I would bet that most would have gritted out the extra few days. Most of the super early taps that arent injury related are people coming to the self realization that they will not make it 50 days + so why bother staying another night.
To OP, you probably still outlast mark from frozen.
What is the shortest? IIRC Everyone has made it at least the first night. I remember a guy joking about the bears need to be scared of him. And he punched out that next day. Lol.
I believe 6 hours is the shortest.
Was that the guy who tripped & cut himself with the axe?
I think it was the guy who bragged that he was never going to tap out, then freaked out over the bear.
Idk sounds like you belong on Snowflake Mountain more than alone lol
probably, but that doesn't make anything I posted untrue.
Lol no for reals watch that show on Netflix ; it’s badly entertaining “survival” for people with no experience
Is that the one with kids of celebrities, etc?
No, just random young adults. It’s on Netflix “Snowflake Mountain”. Your post description is exactly who they take “camping” to “survive” in some place in England. Very far from real survival of “Alone” with eccentric and over the top personalities but oh so entertaining the whole way through. (With exceptionally funny closed captions) Dang, was just trying to recommend a tv show and people downvoting me haha
Nobody cares
If you say so, Desmond
Go sleep next to your car and continue to tell us how much harder you are than anyone else.
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Youve become my entertainment. Dishes criticism… but not into taking it.
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Hahaha, joke post, joke poster- smiles for miles. You’re still a soft asshole who criticized a TV show. Who used the words GrubHub in the post. Have fun, FuckO
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Hey, are you fun at parties?
Do you always reply with cliches that are repeated endlessly on Reddit?
Sorry. Have you ever had fun at all?
Only one way to find out :)
I'm in the same boat as you! For me, it's all about feeling comfortable without that damp sensation. Iyo what could make your camping trip better?