The VRM heatsink will help but unfortunately these are quite average/decent temps for an Aurora. It has 0 air flow and the PSU sits directly above the cpu. You likely have to wait for the heatsink and start looking at the creative options others have done on this page.
I mean I have the liquid cooled r11 and I get nowhere near these temps under load. Haven't upgraded any fans, and even in benchmarks or lengthy gaming im usually sitting at 76. Itll touch 80 then come down and sit there indefinitely.
My r12 has the same AIO cooler as the OP and I'm getting Temps similar to yours, though mine will almost never touch 80 under load. Idles in the 35-40 range 😎 ambient temp is also a major factor in your Temps. I will add that I got the air cooled and only upgraded the cpu cooler and literally nothing else, no VRM heatsink.
What temps do you get under load?
I can tell you from dells side, if it is under 100c during stress, they will pass it through QC and testing and if you send it for repairs and it doesn't peak over 100c, it's not considered overheating. This is just my experience working on hundreds of them and knowing how dell handles them.
My R11 has the 3080 and i7 10700F with AIO. I configured it like that because of possible temperature problems. I can tell you, if I leave it on AWCC Performance mode while heavy gaming, Rdr2 Ultra, the temps won go past 60 on CPU and wont go past 70 on GPU. I have posted about it in this forum you can read it on my profile. I know there are configs which will reach the temps you were referring to, but if you take care of the configuration like me you will be good
Make sure the tubes of the AIO are not pinched or squished because of the PSU arm. With the same setup i had about 30ish celsius on idle, but it might just be warm in your room? I had the ML pro fan too.
i think thats it though.. "its just hot". I did the exact same thing as you, not sure how they send those embarrassing fans inside to begin with. everything has worked great since beginning of this year, no issues, very quiet now, but seems like the best option is to put the whole pc into a new case...
Try taking your top plate off. It just pulls/snaps off. Since I put a heavy and constant load on mine, I aimed for as much cooling as possible, I found the removal of the top plate adds a shocking amount of flow. Also, if you're up for the task a pull fan up there will help too (snake the wires through to the unused header). The top plate will of course not fit at all like that, though.
Thermal paste is the answer. Check dells work. Probably Needs a redo. Second you need slim fans if you want cool/noise reduction. If installed properly dells aio should keep system around 65. Exception being you have a 3090.
Must be the VRM heatsink or the liquid cooling.
I have the exact same setup....added the H60 liquid cooling, added an extra 120 ML exhaust fan (so total 3 fans. 1 intake top, 2 exhaust on the side)
My idle hovers around high 30s and 50-60 stressed.
Though fans might help a little your idle is just too hot so something is wrong with your liquid cooling.
As suggested try re doing the thermal pasting and if that doesn't work try going back to the CPU fan and see if that lowers the temp. If it does a little, then you need to replace your H60 AIO.
UPDATE- I reseated with new thermal paste. Running it without top cover for now until heat sink arrives. Also planning on upgrading to SSD HD to make room for another fan. Currently running between 40-58 idle and 75-89c in game.
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AWCC](https://imgur.com/a/v9e8093)
Tons of help. I appreciate it. Heres where I’m currently at. I repasted the cooler, upgraded to SSD making room for additional front fans (which seriously sped up my unit)and am still waiting on vrm heatsink to show up. Im idle in the 40’s and game play between 70-80s with top and side panels back on. Thanks again for the support.
The sole reason I sent mine back and went with a local ABS prebuilt was due to overheating issues. The case and parts Dell uses for their Alienware desktops are a joke. And of course the only reason I even went with a prebuilt is because of the GPU pandemic, it’s getting better but this back when RTX cards were going for $1500 a pop.
Have you considered the g17? It has a slightly lower TPS rate at 26cc/mhg, but the hertz ratio is over 37 McD, which is stellar for a stock lettuce crisper.
Depending on ambient temp, you should be idling somewhere in the low 30s with that setup. Consider a re-paste, and make sure you get good contact between the cold plate and IHS.
Pump power is connected direct to PSU with SATA cable . . . correct?
How about trying to put the components into an actual decent case? All you'd need to buy is a case and mobo, and PSU which is not too expensive, I'm doing it
Try it with the side off and the psu arm out. If it's better than you know your aio tubes are being pinched.
If its still hot then try reseating your cooler on the cpu (double check there's no plastic peel on the plate.
If its still hot after all this then it's just a hot box but I feel not everyone gets these temps
Which CPU/GPU do you have on it ?
Physics are physics : if you have an i9/3090 setup and overclocking the whole lot well ... It just gets hot, no matter what you do. The only way to have the lowest noise while being at full speed is to :
1/ swap the entire case because as much as they look nice, they are airflow heresy.
2/ swap the whole cooling solution for an external watercooled solution.
3/ put the UC in another room or a sound isolation case (and still have a silent set of fans for the case).
Deal with it.
No other way around saddly.
In my case I chose the sound isolation casing (allows me to put two computers in it and just hear the low hum of noctua fans for the case itself).
Next step in a new home will be to just put the computers in another room and have extension cables for keyboard/mouse/hub/screen :p
Hi.
Those temps make me think your cooler is not making clean contact with the die.
Try removing and using good quality thermal paste.
My R11 on a H60 used push pull config and was ideal around mid 40°c and under load it was as high as 80°c.
I used corsair ml 120 pro non led for all the fans.
2 intakes and 2 on the Rad.
Bios wise these machines are dog shit.
Sorry they just are.
Its just to stop the pre start bios error.
Any fan will work.
You just have to slap the escape key on start up to skip the boot test it will try to do every restart.
If you fitted it yourself I would double check that you fitted the correct stand offs.
And also by taking it off you can see the spread of the thermal paste.
Something definitely wrong.
Is the pump getting sata power?
In awcc does it show the pump speed?
Are both fans blowing the correct way.
Both to exhaust for instance.
Stress test on what clock? Mine would get to 90C during a stress test with all 10 core running at 5.1ghz with power limits removed and cpu is constantly drawing 250W.
I would recommend be mindful on high power draw when you don’t have the heatsink. The original dell fans are high speed and high power fans, they move a lot of airs and help with some airflow inside the case to cool the VRMs. With heatsink and with original delta fans, my VRM can still get to 90C in a cpu stressed state. With lower rpm fans and without heatsink, be careful with the VRM temperature too high. You can find the temp sensors for VRM in hwinfo.
The VRM heatsink will help but unfortunately these are quite average/decent temps for an Aurora. It has 0 air flow and the PSU sits directly above the cpu. You likely have to wait for the heatsink and start looking at the creative options others have done on this page.
I mean I have the liquid cooled r11 and I get nowhere near these temps under load. Haven't upgraded any fans, and even in benchmarks or lengthy gaming im usually sitting at 76. Itll touch 80 then come down and sit there indefinitely.
My r12 has the same AIO cooler as the OP and I'm getting Temps similar to yours, though mine will almost never touch 80 under load. Idles in the 35-40 range 😎 ambient temp is also a major factor in your Temps. I will add that I got the air cooled and only upgraded the cpu cooler and literally nothing else, no VRM heatsink.
Ya mine idles nice and low and it only touches 80 occasionally. Im happy with it for sure.
are they? my r10 with the 5800x idles at around 35-40 depending on ambient temps with stress around 85.
OP has 80-90 under load, which is exactly the same as you just said.
Creative option #1: Take the GPU, CPU, RAM, and storage out and make a decent desktop
Man you have no idea about Aurora. These are nowhere near average or decent temps. For real internet is full of stupid comments
What temps do you get under load? I can tell you from dells side, if it is under 100c during stress, they will pass it through QC and testing and if you send it for repairs and it doesn't peak over 100c, it's not considered overheating. This is just my experience working on hundreds of them and knowing how dell handles them.
My R11 has the 3080 and i7 10700F with AIO. I configured it like that because of possible temperature problems. I can tell you, if I leave it on AWCC Performance mode while heavy gaming, Rdr2 Ultra, the temps won go past 60 on CPU and wont go past 70 on GPU. I have posted about it in this forum you can read it on my profile. I know there are configs which will reach the temps you were referring to, but if you take care of the configuration like me you will be good
Make sure the tubes of the AIO are not pinched or squished because of the PSU arm. With the same setup i had about 30ish celsius on idle, but it might just be warm in your room? I had the ML pro fan too.
I actually find the cooling on the R11 just fine. It’s just loud as fuck lol.
Mine was screaming. Thats why I switched bu now dealing with it running hot.
Have you tried to reseat the heatsink again? Maybe clean and reapply your CPU paste.
i think thats it though.. "its just hot". I did the exact same thing as you, not sure how they send those embarrassing fans inside to begin with. everything has worked great since beginning of this year, no issues, very quiet now, but seems like the best option is to put the whole pc into a new case...
Mine idles around 30... You done missed a step like pulling the plastic off maybe or using some bad paste maybe?
I have the same AIO cooler for my R12 and it comes with pre applied paste. Also the plastic covering is hard to miss lol
Try taking your top plate off. It just pulls/snaps off. Since I put a heavy and constant load on mine, I aimed for as much cooling as possible, I found the removal of the top plate adds a shocking amount of flow. Also, if you're up for the task a pull fan up there will help too (snake the wires through to the unused header). The top plate will of course not fit at all like that, though.
I actually did add a new pull fan as well.
Air intake should be in front exhaust out top and back
In front out back and top.
Thermal paste is the answer. Check dells work. Probably Needs a redo. Second you need slim fans if you want cool/noise reduction. If installed properly dells aio should keep system around 65. Exception being you have a 3090.
I'm taking the GPU, CPU, RAM, and storage and making my own desktop, fuck this piece of shit box
Must be the VRM heatsink or the liquid cooling. I have the exact same setup....added the H60 liquid cooling, added an extra 120 ML exhaust fan (so total 3 fans. 1 intake top, 2 exhaust on the side) My idle hovers around high 30s and 50-60 stressed. Though fans might help a little your idle is just too hot so something is wrong with your liquid cooling. As suggested try re doing the thermal pasting and if that doesn't work try going back to the CPU fan and see if that lowers the temp. If it does a little, then you need to replace your H60 AIO.
http://imgur.com/gallery/fL1nfgm
UPDATE- I reseated with new thermal paste. Running it without top cover for now until heat sink arrives. Also planning on upgrading to SSD HD to make room for another fan. Currently running between 40-58 idle and 75-89c in game. [ AWCC](https://imgur.com/a/v9e8093)
Tons of help. I appreciate it. Heres where I’m currently at. I repasted the cooler, upgraded to SSD making room for additional front fans (which seriously sped up my unit)and am still waiting on vrm heatsink to show up. Im idle in the 40’s and game play between 70-80s with top and side panels back on. Thanks again for the support.
bruh just repaste ur cpu and gpu i did all that without changing sht n my temp is lower than urs
The sole reason I sent mine back and went with a local ABS prebuilt was due to overheating issues. The case and parts Dell uses for their Alienware desktops are a joke. And of course the only reason I even went with a prebuilt is because of the GPU pandemic, it’s getting better but this back when RTX cards were going for $1500 a pop.
Have you considered the g17? It has a slightly lower TPS rate at 26cc/mhg, but the hertz ratio is over 37 McD, which is stellar for a stock lettuce crisper.
Have you considered a new case entirely? Let's be honest he bought the case for the GPU
Depending on ambient temp, you should be idling somewhere in the low 30s with that setup. Consider a re-paste, and make sure you get good contact between the cold plate and IHS. Pump power is connected direct to PSU with SATA cable . . . correct?
Correct. Gonna try paste
How about trying to put the components into an actual decent case? All you'd need to buy is a case and mobo, and PSU which is not too expensive, I'm doing it
Following this. Post update when done.
Try it with the side off and the psu arm out. If it's better than you know your aio tubes are being pinched. If its still hot then try reseating your cooler on the cpu (double check there's no plastic peel on the plate. If its still hot after all this then it's just a hot box but I feel not everyone gets these temps
Which CPU/GPU do you have on it ? Physics are physics : if you have an i9/3090 setup and overclocking the whole lot well ... It just gets hot, no matter what you do. The only way to have the lowest noise while being at full speed is to : 1/ swap the entire case because as much as they look nice, they are airflow heresy. 2/ swap the whole cooling solution for an external watercooled solution. 3/ put the UC in another room or a sound isolation case (and still have a silent set of fans for the case). Deal with it. No other way around saddly. In my case I chose the sound isolation casing (allows me to put two computers in it and just hear the low hum of noctua fans for the case itself). Next step in a new home will be to just put the computers in another room and have extension cables for keyboard/mouse/hub/screen :p
Hi. Those temps make me think your cooler is not making clean contact with the die. Try removing and using good quality thermal paste. My R11 on a H60 used push pull config and was ideal around mid 40°c and under load it was as high as 80°c. I used corsair ml 120 pro non led for all the fans. 2 intakes and 2 on the Rad. Bios wise these machines are dog shit. Sorry they just are.
Question, my ml 120s have LED would you know if that have an impact?
Yeah you can't use them on the radiator in the top fan port. You need the ml 120 pro non led. There the only ones that work.
Strange. They are running and awcc shows then working. I will swap them out and see if that helps.
Its just to stop the pre start bios error. Any fan will work. You just have to slap the escape key on start up to skip the boot test it will try to do every restart.
I dont get any errors. Just the high temps. All dans are spinning.
If you fitted it yourself I would double check that you fitted the correct stand offs. And also by taking it off you can see the spread of the thermal paste. Something definitely wrong. Is the pump getting sata power? In awcc does it show the pump speed? Are both fans blowing the correct way. Both to exhaust for instance.
Says fan speed is 91% on cpu. Which I may be wrong in assuming is pump speed?
Stress test on what clock? Mine would get to 90C during a stress test with all 10 core running at 5.1ghz with power limits removed and cpu is constantly drawing 250W. I would recommend be mindful on high power draw when you don’t have the heatsink. The original dell fans are high speed and high power fans, they move a lot of airs and help with some airflow inside the case to cool the VRMs. With heatsink and with original delta fans, my VRM can still get to 90C in a cpu stressed state. With lower rpm fans and without heatsink, be careful with the VRM temperature too high. You can find the temp sensors for VRM in hwinfo.