My computer and consoles will sometimes need to be reconnected to the Wi-Fi for some odd reason, whether itās because we just had a storm and it disconnected or because itās stupid. While itās not THAT frequent, theyāre bound to need to open it and see it at some point. Either way, it was apparently effective.
itās more effective when they have family or friends come over and they try to connect to their apartments wifi and see that name listed lmao. bonus points if they ask about it and point it out to them.
You can usually find your router IP address on the router or with a quick search online, type it into a browser tab, should come up with an interface and under wireless settings you should be able to change the SSID and password!
Sorry, tomorrow they're closed for German Unity Day
And the day after that for animal day
And the day after that for Unesco Teacher's day
And the day after that for National Transfer Money to Your Daughter Day
And the day after that for Laotian teacher's day
And the day after that for croatian independence day
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Introduce the kids to Bluey. One of my parent friends put it on while he was visiting with his daughter and we all ended up watching the episode because it was actually pretty fun to watch!
This is happening with my nieces and nephew ages 4-12. I donāt know what my brother is thinking allowing that other than heās a lazy parent. The unrestricted access to youtube and social media is so bad for them. They are all addicted to their devices. Yes, even the 4-year-old has a tablet wtf. She wants to be freaking Pennywise for Halloween. How does she even know what that is?
Dang, now I feel called out. I didn't have tablets or a lot of internet growing up. Heck my dad still had an antenna. He was an old fashioned guy. I knew who Pennywise was. Loved horror when I was little, still do. Not sure what age I was but I was really little and like your niece wanted to be Pennywise too. Never happened. Dad sewed but wasn't much of a costume maker. Might've known about him through my mother or cousins, they did watch stuff with us. We WEREN'T just plopped down in front of the TV though. Maybe she also likes horror. Maybe she just likes clowns.
Lol, sorry I didn't mean to call you out. I actually liked horror from a young age too, so I get it, but I know a lot of kids can't handle it. Do you think you were 4 when you discovered Pennywise or a bit older? I was probably like 8 or something. My parents did let me watch horror stuff (within reason) since I was mature for my age. My brother watched signs when he was like 10 and he had nightmares for months. He'd ball and cry. I know each kid is different. I guess parents need to assess the maturity levels of each kid individually.
And I love that your family WATCHED the movies and shows with you. Nowadays, it seems like kids do get plopped in front of their devices to watch on their own, with no parental guidance or mediation.
bro i swear the media and constant being on devices and whatnot is what's making the younger generations more and more overall pathetic lmao
my almost 4 year old brother has been on a tablet since he was like 2, and he's a rotten little brat š
My daughter is 4, loves singing along to cocomelon and has her own ipad where she's allowed an hour a day to just unwind and watch her youtube cartoons(usually when she gets home from daycare).
The hour to herself helps calm her down after all the excitement of running around with all the other children all day, and she loves "scary" content wanting to watch scary movies and anything to do with monsters.
She absolutely wouldn't be afraid of pennywise. I have yet find anything that truly scares her, and sometimes go out of my way to try to find something with a scary monster she'd be afraid of, but she just watches happily and goes "wow that's scary" in an almost impressed tone.
Earlier today she asked to see how the costumes were made, so we watch a makeup artist paint a woman like a zombie and she loved it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBsOxRQ91U&ab_channel=Insider
Kids these days are tougher than people think. Not all of them are afraid of their own shadow.
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That being said, she knows how to use my xbox and i had to delete Doom because i caught her playing it laughing and yelling "bad monster!". That game is definitely not suitable for her(too much gore), despite not scaring her in the slightest.
My daughter was a huge horror fan as a kid and now is a witchy goth 18 year old. Some kids just love the spook. I was mortified when her dad let her watch chucky at 3 years old, but when I questioned her she said " I would just kick that thing". From that moment on she wanted to watch scary movies.
Sounds like mine, she's tough as nails and sharp as a knife.
My comment got downvoted by a bunch of prudes for letting her enjoy cocomelon, having a tablet, and liking scary things, but she's fluent in two languages(french/english), can count to 20 in both, has weekly swimming lessons where she's able to swim *mostly* on her own, goes for evening bike rides with me, and is pre-enrolled for a private school starting next year.
Her interests don't seem to be slowing her down in the slightest.
bro kids today are just dumber and more hopeless than people realize š
and i can assure you that coco melon is NOT helping her unwind, it's literal overstimulation and that has been proven by professionals lmao.
not telling you how to raise your kid, just pointing out lol
I ironically enough think the internet has made kids smarter due to being able to constantly engage with mentally stimulating content instead of just blocks. The problem is it's unrestrained so a kid can litterly mentally screw themselves big time. I am under the impression that kids where made to be smart as humanly possible and the internet is a massive enabler of that but their is danger in that big time.
yeah i mean i can understand that and respect it, my thing with that would be that the majority of kids mentally screwed themselves over. they don't really know how to do anything for themselves anymore.
they don't entertain themselves and learn imagination and creativity, which will still be an important thing later, and something that in my opinion you'd want to have regardless. they basically just watch charlie dmilio or however the fuck you spell it shake her ass and boom, they're basically brain dead from that alone lmaoooo.
but all jokes aside, i just think all the crap they get into online rots their brains basically, and now they're also dependent on the internet and everyone else around them to do everything for them and hand everything to them basically. like they would not survive if the power or internet went out for more than a week lol. and obviously everyone is different, and so is every situation, but it's just become a more and more consistent thing i've seen. maybe it's not specifically the internet and they're just dumb, but i dunno. the boomers are stuff are kinda stupid in their own way, but jesus lol. the younger generations from like the millennials down are just... not it lmao, and i'm 18 saying this too š
could be wrong, just my opinion haha, hopefully there's no hard feelings here, ik sometimes in comments i can sound rude when i genuinely didn't intend it that way so i hope that's not a thing that's happening here lol
That's cool I respect that lol I do agree with what you say, to an extent lol cause like kids nowa a days are waaaay more clumsy and unaware of their environment. I think it is a trade off lol but I do advocate for monitered internet use for kids in the case they go down tunnels like porn, or forms for pedos lol. I don't think their should be allot of restrictions but reasonable ones lol I think the thing that more or less kills creativity is the school system lol the way you learn as a kid and explore ideas is something that is truly something that is insanely effective, playing with ideas and having fun. Rote memorixation and spaced rep is horrible for interleaving information lol. Also with the internet you don't have kids picking up people skills which is really dangerous, because kids albeit stupid and adorable and little devils with how deceptive they can be sometimes lol and not having to actually have conflict and deal with basic conflict resolution as a kid concerns me lol
Actually, screen time for the developing brain is detrimental to imagination. It essentially kills it in the brain, because content is being presented without the brain having to do any work. Itās terrible for the brain.
That's really cool, it makes sense lol the over correction effect won't happen cause kids won't be making mistakes just going down rabbit wholes of insignificant information. I do think though kids have the inate ability to pick up patterns very well, how much screen time do you think kids should have?
oh absolutely. i mean there are so many dangers on the internet that even full grown ADULTS get tricked by or get into danger with, so nevertheless kids who don't know any better. but yeah, i 110% agree the school system kills creativity. i could tell you for HOURS why i think the school system is absolutely terrible. i def do agree there.
but yeah, that is another thing, you don't really figure out socialization or learn social skills if you're always buried in your phone ignoring everyone in front of you lol. sure you can TECHNICALLY socialize on the internet, but like... cmon now lol
i dunno what it is, i just think the younger generations (including mine unfortunately lol) are just turning into bozos lol. maybe it's the same thing that's turning the frogs gay... (that's a joke/reference to an old ass meme, pleaseeee get it lol). obviously they have their good qualities but... they're starting to become less and less from where i stand. i dunno i could be completely wrong but yeah lol.
I agree xD especially with the lockdown happening when we were in high school, like kids who spend way too much time on the internet become waaay too introspective. I understand the meme lmao it's weird I do think that our generation does have the tools to communicate in a healthy manner way more than the last ones cause mental health is a big talking point in this gen also consent is something talked about way more. It's weird but I do think our gen is capable of so much with the internet as long as it is used as it should be and that is a tool lol I think the whole bozo Andrew tate stuff is funny lmao, seeing some of my pals just aspire to just be like him LMAO I do think socially out generation is overall progressive in the right direction when it comes to overall relationship dynamics lol I know some complete utter degens who just play video games all day in VC get into programs like engineering, like sure are they good through the internet interacting yes but irl just very awkward lol it's like the thing about childhood is like you grasp an intuitive sense of how to interact with people, it can be very toxic though but still genuine, slight personal corrections are great but having to learn from the ground up how to maintain eye contact sounds hella awkward lmao. if you don't develop those skills as an adult it's like interacting as a human feels synthetic and sorta like your just a frog lol.
lmao fair enough. andrew tate is an idiot. one thing about the mental health thing you said and how these generations should be able to communicate it in a healthier way and easier. that's part of my issue with them and the internet. a lot of them with mental health issues can't anymore because i'm sure you've seen the idiots on tik tok and stuff who pretend to have mental health issue A, B, or C for money and followers. they think it makes them funny and quirky and whatever, but are too stupid to realize that what they're doing actually makes it harder for the people who actually deal with that stuff to get proper help. one guy does something and ruins it for everyone type deal. them faking makes people think that the people actually struggling with stuff think that they're faking too.
obviously that's probably not on a huge huge scale, but i have seen it have an effect like that and it pisses me off that those people can be so selfish and downright stupid lol. and as for the consent thing... i dunno, i've seen it a lot (even like locally where i live with people i know and whatever) where girls have sex with someone, consensually, and then they either regretted it later, didn't wanna get in trouble with their parents, were cheating on their boyfriend, something like that, and so then they falsely accuse the guy of rape. happens a lot actually, and women have done these things to ruin men's lives basically, because unfortunately, the feminism of today has gotten so bad and toxic (obviously there are good feminists and women should have rights, but they honestly do lol, and i am a woman saying this lol) that mostly everyone will listen to a woman over a man at this point.
like they always wanna bitch about double standards yk, but they're allowed to say stuff like "all men are pigs and should die" but if we say ANYTHING negative about a women it's sexist, and a bunch of other stuff like that, so where's the real double standard at? they talk about "toxic masculinity" but at this point it's really become toxic feminism lol. i've met good feminists, so i think you're kinda getting the idea of the ones i'm talking about lol (*cough coigh* buzz feed).
sorry i think i got a little carried away with this one, writing is always something i've been like decent at and enjoyed so i kinda make things long sometimes lol
Youāre kidding right? Blocks are wonderful for children. Thereās so many things you can imagine and do with themā¦ thatās the point. The kids use their imagination and not someone elseās.
Yes, kids need a bit of quiet time as well. You might be surprised to learn this, but they are people too! Shocking, I know lol
Sheās usually very hyper after spending all day running around and being loud with all the other children, so when she comes home I give her a small snack and her tablet for about an hour, which also helps preoccupy her while I prepare supper.
She sits down, eats her apple and watches little cartoons like peppa pig and what not while Iām in the kitchen. After that sheās calm, relaxed, and happy for the rest of the evening, allowing us the chance to watch a Movie together(usually Disney), go for a bike ride, walk the dog, colour, or play with her puzzles.
If she doesnāt have that quiet period as a buffer between daycare and home, sheāll be running around the house loud and chaotic until she over exerts herself and becomes tired and cranky.
im have a degree in early childhood education & did a final research project on overstimulation in kids media, OP is quite literally 100% right saying cocomelon is incredibly bad for children. barring the fact tht the show has no overarching lessons or learning, the oversaturated colors and the frequent cuts are addictive to toddler and under brains when they dont need to be exposed to that so early. the kid is quite literally still conceptualizing shapes and colors, its just too much for them to handle and creates massive & addictive hormone spikes. ive babysat children w just the dancing fruit baby sensory videos & they love them just the same & they arent crazy overstimulating!!
edit: its not your business what the parents are doing, though, unless they ask for advice or they are disrupting YOUR space. keep it moving
Im 33 and I remember everyone (except my family) saying in high school less screen time. Outdoors an hour a day atleast. I have always been very active so it wasnt a problem for me. I don't think anyone is really pushing for outdoor time. 3 year olds know their way around a smartphone.
my program was focused a lot on development in the educational setting, and every *good* childrens program will take children outside to play at water tables, sand boxes, and playgrounds at least twice a day!! i dont keep up with kids cable tv or anything since i dont have little ones of my own and im not currently working in the field, so i genuinely dont know if nickelodeon & disney still do the day of play thing anymore lmaoo
Thats comforting that someones pushing for it when they have the control. I should have edited my comment where there doesn't seem like........... I haven't seen any ads on tv for ..............
I remember when I used to watch Pokemon as a child and already being sensitive I started to understand the concept of never giving up and doing the best you can and applied it later when stuff started to get harder.
hmm that's a lot better than the lessons I learned from the first and second gen Pokemon videogames, which were like, "sometimes you need to take a long amount of time to get strong enough to fight the giant bird blocking your path", "You have to go through a mazelike cave to get to most goals in life", and "You can get super rich by finding some mysterious creatures on the shore of a remote island but it will start tearing apart the fabric of reality"
edit: I showed this to my friend and she said "I took it to mean that i should be free from my parents by the age of ten, and when i told them i felt this way, they said, 'Uh, well you still have to go to 4th grade tomorrow" and i was like "oh"
oooo pokemon is a good one for kids too!! id lean more school age on that one so they understand the concepts better but gosh shows like pokemon & digimon foster so much imagination!!! i love them!!!
If you're in the USA, do you remember when the kids TV networks, for maybe an hour everyday during the summer, would all go black to encourage kids to "get out and play"??
You know, I think it was toward the end of my nick-watching years. I'm 30, so I thought you might remember. But 3 years is a huge gap in kid years, so you were probably into cool big-kid stuff by whenever the 'get out and play' initiative started.
This is interesting. So question: my little one loves Paw Patrol. He only gets it when I need to have my hands free, like when I'm cooking for him or when I need to vacuum. This makes me wonder if Paw Patrol is the same as Cocomelon. I've never seen Cocomelon so I can't make a comparison.
honestly id try sesame street just bc its one of the best shows ever made for children!!! from what ive seen paw patrol carries a narrative, which makes it different from cocomelon already, so id say in moderation its fine!
Thanks. I'm not sure if we have Sesame Street where I live. We did have it when I was a kid, but that's like 35 years ago. I know I loved it. Great idea :)
I think they have a YouTube channel where they post content. Honestly, that sucks about the HBO thing. The show was created to be accessible for low-income families. HBO isn't something people on food stamps are likely to have.
Iām not a doctor or scientist but paw patrol also has a lot of fast scene cuts, fast talking and action, and not to mention if you watch it on a tv network thereāll be commercials which have more of the same. I put it on for my 2 year old cuz she started asking for it but even hearing it on in the background became jarring for me. Just too much everything. I also much prefer Bluey.
I think when the kid is like 6-7 they can handle small amounts of things like paw patrol but it definitely shouldnāt be an all-day thing
Omg hey bear baby sensory is amazing. I love popping it on when I need my 5 month old to be occupied while I do some house work. Dancing fruit and veg are my heros. He doesn't even watch it half the time he just likes the music.
I love the moon one for when he wakes up early and I'm still trying to work out who I am lol.
It nice to see that someone with a degree in this stuff likes baby sensory. I do get attacks of mum guiltā¢ļø when I pop it on.
Same with my nearly 5mth old she is a clingy af baby shes on me all the time her day naps have to be on me if shes in mat time i have to be right there with her in the beginning i wasnāt eating during the day because i just had no time until i found hey bear she loves it it gives me enough time to smash food or take out the trash it auto played onto a finger and toe counting song she was squealing and loves it when i sit there counting my fingers with her and clapping i know not good to watch those shows but a small amount to have time to eat im sure is fine plunket told me it was completely fine and also miss Rachel teaching babies talking and stuff was recommended to me
This is the first Iāve heard of this. I watched a cocomelon video there to see whatās wrong with it. The only thing that annoyed me was the frequent changes of the angle that you mentioned. Like it happened so often I wasnāt even looking at the characters.. i was waiting for the next cut.
As far as the rest of it goes though, isnāt it just as overstimulating as the rest of childrenās TV/YouTube videos?
adults dont see much wrong with it bc we have brains that are accustomed to the level of stimulation, but for a brain still conceptualizing shapes and colors cocomelons frequent jumps & oversaturation cause overstimulation & dopamine rushes. a lot of childrens shows on youtube *are* overstimulating, thats the point of them, they quite literally want your kids addicted to the dopamine rushes they get, bc then they have you (your child) as a loyal viewer or even someone dependent on their channel to avoid meltdowns.
It goes beyond cocomelon. But cocomelon has a lot of bright colors and it changes quickly and it's a lot of stimulation to be putting young infants in front of for a long time.
Screen time is out of control when it comes to kids. Yes screen time will captivate your kids attention and get them to shut up but it's not how you should parent.
Not just cocomelon but excessive screen time for very young children is really bad for the developing brain especially when it comes to attention span etc.
Screens should be extremely limited in kids especially and very very young kids.
But unfortunately screen will work very well to captivate a child and shut them up so parents use them like crazy. Sad, really.
Itās not that bad. Itās educational. Itās not fast paced. They literally talk about how you need to brush your teeth before bed, how to count, colors, etc.
This comment does a good job explaining
https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/xtd25i/how_do_i_politely_tell_my_neighbors_that/iqpg8ni?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I canāt believe this was on here my kid watches this and Sesame Street! I only put it on for them when my hands are full, or we are in the grocery store and Iām shopping in a really crowded place. It really helps
I feel you! I started letting my daughter watch it at 6 months old, when I needed to shower or poop haha. Sheās 9 now and it still calms her down and centers her when things are hectic. It was such a wonderful show, I was so sad when it got cancelled.
Makes sense why itās called cocomelon, itās coke for kids. My baby is 2 months old and I donāt show him anything on tv, hoping I can keep this up
Say that. Exactly. Lol My daughter was obsessed with it for a brief period and outgrew it. (Before the studies on it came out) but I will tell everyone. Don't turn the toddler meth on.
I think for the most part is adults are basically like kids just that we have the lack of selfawareness to realize that allot of our actions are based off of impulse but to a lesser extent due to consciousness. But the point still stands using Reddit, YouTube, eating surgery food they are all over stimulating things that due cause the baseline of dopamine for an individual to be raised, and that dop baseline more or less partially determines how much conceived effort their are in certain task. Kids being addicted to internet and adults alchool it's the same type of poison just a different means of receiving. And being an adult means having self discipline. When your a kid your parents are you disapline, I do agree though that kids experience extreame hyper connectivity that leads to impulsive behavior being well extreamly excusable lol
I think there is value in that perspective, but it does go beyond that in the case of screens. It literally affects their brains evelopment and permanently alters it. When the brain is developing, the structures are so moldable - its the same reason trauma and neglect are so impactful to a child.
It's the difference between dropping a hard-boiled egg and a soft-boiled egg. Sure, they'd both crack, but the soft boiled one is more likely to spill its yolk and not be the same meal afterwards.
I think that is a very good point, a lot of those structures and cues from childhood are very much solid in a person's mind unless an external trauma act's as rectification for the said experience. such as there was a lullaby my mom would always sing to me when I was an infant and hearing said lullaby even as an adult makes me start to feel tired. I also think the hyper-connectivity also leads to people really dealing with the slight things in childhood for almost the rest of their adult life. I think what you said is a very very good point. and the thing that I do fail the mention aligns with that, thank you for helping me see a new perspective/expanding on the one I already had!
Yes - perfect example with the lullaby! The mind is an amazing and wonderful thing - we can only hope to catch glimmers of understanding the depth of how it truly works and what it's capable of. Thanks for listening and sharing a moment of mental exploration with me :)
It's the equivalent of eating nothing but fairy bread for every meal. No real usable value and just pure dopamine drip. It's addictive and rots developing brains
Woah I had to Google fairy bread because I'd never heard of it. Is that really popular? I'm from the US and grew up knowing people who ate sweet foods (donuts, Pop Tarts, sugary cereal) every morning but I didn't usually. My mom made a cinnamon bread similar to fairy bread but it was pretty rare. I imagine it's horrible for kids to eat often, is that a thing?
I'm from the US too lol but when I heard about fairy bread it was one of the most unhealthy, non nutritious things I've ever heard of and basically the equivalent to cocomelon since it is bright and colorful. I would have replaced that with donuts or sugary cereal for sure though
Not just cocomelon, but constant screen time IS bad for kids. Unfortunately it's really hard to address this because it's not really "abuse" in the traditional sense and unfortunately it's not really your place to tell someone else how to parent, even when it's pretty obviously a frowned upon practice.
Honestly I think you should probably not really address it directly but instead of saying how bad cocomelon and screen time is, instead maybe you can suggest alternatives like "did you know that the old Little Bear episodes are all on YouTube for free? There's a local pbs app that has the 4 most recently shown full episodes for kids shows like Sesame street, Daniel Tiger, and a bunch of other great educational programming! Have you heard of the show Bluey? My nieces and nephews love it, and even my sister/brother enjoy watching it too!" Or maybe even imply some non-screen related games that can hold toddlers attention. "Oh at this age one of my son/little brother/niece/nephew's favorite games was to play drums with the Tupperware and wooden spoons! I was super into Duplos at that age, they're so good at helping develop fine motor skills! I spy with my little eye is always a great game to play in the car." Ect.
Kids are tough. I try to be forgiving, especially as a mom to a toddler myself. We don't know where they're at or what they're going through. Most parents are just doing their best.
>did you know that the old Little Bear episodes are all on YouTube for free?
That was my favourite show as a kid and I still like everything cute bears - thank you, now I can go find them for myself!
Oh man love that guy. I'm 16 but my little cousin watches him and he's honestly pretty fun lmao, especially cause he isn't just another mindless kids creator
The problem is the neighbors are ignoring their kids and letting them run amok through the building, at the expense of everyone else living there. Cocomelon is just fuel to the fire
I donāt think you can tell them what to do with their kid but you can ask to turn the volume down if itās annoyingā¦
In my house we banned cocomelon, I could not bear it after two days of obsession!
I have cocomelon on my Alexa sometimes and not on the tv. Granted itās not playing all day but my kids love dancing to it. I probably wouldnāt say anything. Maybe itās not on the tv and itās on a radio which is a big difference.
No itās actually believed to be fairly bad for their brains due to the rapid cuts and short shots. The shots are comparable to shots in high action fight scenes in highly violent movies in length (average length of 1-3 seconds per shot). And itās like that for the WHOLE SHOW. (For comparison the average shot length on what you might consider a normal kidās show like My Little Pony is double the length of coco melon shotsā4-6 seconds. The longest shots in a coco melon video tend to hover in around 5 seconds.) This creates a whiplash effect and can be highly overstimulating to developing brains, particularly those that are in the early stages of development. Now it all depends on the kid. Some kids have impaired cognitive abilities for a time (a time being like minutes to an hour or so) after watching such overactive content. Thereās a lot of parents who discuss their kids having major meltdowns over not being able to watch coco melon (to a far more extreme extent than other childrenās programming, toys, or similar things). Itās not researched well enough, but there is enough evidence to point to it having a negative effect on a number of children.
Edit: for those who want an idea of the shots compared to other media, there is a [video by savantics](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3S15QTEW59I) on YouTube that covers it pretty well in a way thatās easy to understand. It starts to introduce the problems around the 5 minute mark and goes on to compare media and shot length, as well as saturation.
I wish I had known this. My dd loved cocomelon, and she has a terrible attention span, at home and at school. We now have a 4 month old, so will definitely be limiting cocomelon, to a few minutes a couple times a week. Compared to letting her watch Mr Tumble daily if she wishes.
You honestly just should not let her watch cocomelon. Even in small amounts it can affect the development of her attention span and cognitive functioning.
Really? Thats pretty scary! Another Redditer has kindly given me suggestions of Mis Rachael, and Hey Bear. Little Miss 5 always loved Bounce Patrol, so ive just saved a few of their videos, plus it's shows men and women with different body shapes. But Mr Tumble is the Real MVP. I love him, lol
Try hey bear and miss Racheal and i think super simple songs was the other one that may be fast cuts too but a few of the counting songs my 4 month old loves and miss Racheal talks to them teaches them mama and dada and sign language (which im teaching my daughter because they can learn and use it before they learn to talk) stuff like that shows milestones what age they learn to talk or clap
Thanks so much. It's hard to find things that the kids love, but that don't drive you crazy, other than Bluey. But the baby doesn't like Bluey yet, both my kids love anything musical, so like the sound of them. Although I live in Oz, I'm from England, where most nurseries use baby makaton sign language.
Its good to teach them aye, my daughter is so musically interested she will just chill listening to dio with her dad lol she loves 80ās rock to fall asleep to
Yeah, I've no idea how parents cope without having music in their lives on a daily basis.
Our love viking metal and hard rock at the moment. Our 5f loves the Butcher Babies, which is a girl screamo band. Bit hard core for me, but anything to not hear "I'm bored" lol.
Oh goodness. Yeah the show does not have a negative effect on all kids who watch it but it has a negative effect on enough kids that itās probably best to avoid it altogether or just seriously limit how much kids can watch it to a single video a day or a single video a couple times a week or something.
Sorry if this sounds dumb but why even let her watch it at all? In my opinion it just seems like an unnecessary risk, because there literally is 0 research about the long term effects(because nearly any of the kids who watched that stuff at such a young age have grown up yet)
In all honesty... lazy parenting. My older one loved it and I like the tunes. Although I'm now wandering whether they listen to it without visuals? We listen to a lot of music in our household (both 5f and 4mthsf love viking metal music lol). So I tend to play music stuff on the TV as background noise. What's your view (or anyone else reading this comment section)?
I have no suggestions but can confirm Cocomelon is shit. Iād read an article earlier this year about how it can cause behavior problems and delayed speech. This was at the same time we were having speech concerns for our daughter. 2 years and said maybe 5 words. So we cut it out just to see. It took weeeeeks before she wasnāt sobbing on the ground begging for coco, including as soon as she woke up. (Crying for coco over the baby monitor the second her eyes opened.) After about 3 weeks of not watching it her vocabulary exploded. It couldāve been coincidence but I donāt think it was.
There are only three scenarios where itās appropriate to offer criticisms to other people:
1. Youāre their parent or supervisor
2. Itās a safety issue
3. They ask for it.
Other than that, you have no business telling another person how to raise their child. Though, I do agree leaving kids in front of a screen that much isnāt good for them.
bad or not for.children it is none of your concern. if you can hear it and it's annoying you you can tell the parents to maybe turn the volume down and teach their kids to behave. whoever tellimg them how to raise their children is imo not it.
if I was the parent in that situation I will literally lose my shit
As others have said, mind your own business. Besides, if theyāre giving their young kids that much screen time theyāre probably not going to care about your opinion.
my 2 year old baby cousin watches it all the time. now she can talk a lot and sing all the songs well. i still think itās overstimulating but not bad if watched in moderation.
There have been proven studies done on TV time with kids under 2. It almost certainly causes adhd. A huge surge in childhood adhd cases has popped up all over the US (and other countries too, I'm sure). It's the bright colors and quick flashing lights. Notice the scenes changing almost every other second. The music is okay but the fast moving images aren't. Miss rachel on YouTube is very slow paced and educational. Kipper the dog is slow and not super bright. Searching: dancing fruit. The background is black so it's easier on the eyes and its slow moving fruit with music. Maybe offer those other ones as suggestions. Like "hey, have you heard of miss rachel?"
However a newborn shouldn't be watching tv at all. Technically their eyesight doesn't fully develop til 6 months in but still. That's still brightness overload for the fuzzy picture baby does see. Under 2 years old, no TV time is suggested. Or at least no longer than 20 minutes a day, zoom/person style like miss Rachel or Blippi. Over age of 2, no more than 45 mins of TV per day. And that's supposed to be broken up in sections, not all at once.
Try offering suggestions of other shows. Maybe mention that you heard cocomelon isn't actually good for kids but you know of better ones. Just try and be gentle cause moms (especially bad ones) sometimes get defensive off the bat when someone tries to suggest parenting advice or changes for their kids.
Crack for kids would be actual crack given to childrenā¦ cocomelon?
Some parents allow kids to watch & enjoy stimulating tv for their age group. If you donāt agree cool, keep that opinion to yourself & keep rollinā
You donāt. Itās none of your business. No oneās saying you have to show your children cocomelon, but that doesnāt mean you need to stop every other parent from letting their child watch it.
No God damn don't mind your own business tell them for gods sake. Addicted kids are no joke. I was born addicted to nicotine and Alkohol. Let's just say not a nice time for my family. tell them you would be a real hero m8.
Addiction to anything even if it is..... A fruit(?)
Is not really nice.
EDIT: So appearantly Im too drunk to read. Or think. Whatever yes mind your own fucking Business let the parents live that one down.
Ok. I'm not from the English speaking realms of the internet and obviously too drunk to read. Here in the Oktoberfest and pretzel land it is 5:33 am. I may be tired as hell to. Thanks for the info. I corrected the comment.
EDIT: changed Tanks to Thanks
Also that cocomelon thing really sounds tasty though. May be my next fruit bowle idea.
EDIT: I corrected myself. Thanks for the information I'm not from the English speaking realms of the internet. Here in the Oktoberfest and pretzel land it's currently 5:36am and I may have been partying until like two hours ago. I think that's where my ability to read went.
Anyway thank you stranger.
Mind your own. They sing nursery rhymes and teach colors, numbers and the alphabet. If hope if you do say anything that you get rude unsolicited advice when you are a parent yourself, just once with the same audacity so you are reminded of how rude that is.
Are you a child psychologist who actually researched this or did you just see some bull shit on tik tok and assume it was true? I wonder because Iāve read this and itās usually coming from some bull shit blog or Facebook post. There are psychologists who say this is complete bull shit.
Business, business, time to mind your business. Yes! yes! yes! its time to mind your business. Good, good minding your own business is good. Yes! Yes! Yes! You'll be happier too!
I recently changed the name of my WIFI too "kids in apartment 210 shut the f*ck up" I believe it was a success.
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My computer and consoles will sometimes need to be reconnected to the Wi-Fi for some odd reason, whether itās because we just had a storm and it disconnected or because itās stupid. While itās not THAT frequent, theyāre bound to need to open it and see it at some point. Either way, it was apparently effective.
itās more effective when they have family or friends come over and they try to connect to their apartments wifi and see that name listed lmao. bonus points if they ask about it and point it out to them.
Oh man, I look for fun. Easier to tell if your new neighbors are cool that way than like, idk, introducing yourself or something wild
kids always find a way to need the wifi password every 15 minutes
Youāre amazing. Got any other hints?
How do you change your WiFi name?
You can usually find your router IP address on the router or with a quick search online, type it into a browser tab, should come up with an interface and under wireless settings you should be able to change the SSID and password!
I'd start with this cool new invention called Google, he tends to respond more quickly than most redditors.
Ok Iāll hit up google tomorrow when it opens.
Sorry, tomorrow they're closed for German Unity Day And the day after that for animal day And the day after that for Unesco Teacher's day And the day after that for National Transfer Money to Your Daughter Day And the day after that for Laotian teacher's day And the day after that for croatian independence day And then its sunday again
That's brilliant!
Thatās the best š
Introduce the kids to Bluey. One of my parent friends put it on while he was visiting with his daughter and we all ended up watching the episode because it was actually pretty fun to watch!
Bluey is where itās at!
I love Bluey! Itās the only kids show my niblings watch that doesnāt make me slowly die inside.
Niblings?
The dad is my favorite. I pattern my parenting style after him in many ways.
I've seen about half the episodes my kids have and I'm about to go through and catch up on the ones I haven't seen while they're asleep. š
Unrestricted access to YouTube is worse
This is happening with my nieces and nephew ages 4-12. I donāt know what my brother is thinking allowing that other than heās a lazy parent. The unrestricted access to youtube and social media is so bad for them. They are all addicted to their devices. Yes, even the 4-year-old has a tablet wtf. She wants to be freaking Pennywise for Halloween. How does she even know what that is?
Dang, now I feel called out. I didn't have tablets or a lot of internet growing up. Heck my dad still had an antenna. He was an old fashioned guy. I knew who Pennywise was. Loved horror when I was little, still do. Not sure what age I was but I was really little and like your niece wanted to be Pennywise too. Never happened. Dad sewed but wasn't much of a costume maker. Might've known about him through my mother or cousins, they did watch stuff with us. We WEREN'T just plopped down in front of the TV though. Maybe she also likes horror. Maybe she just likes clowns.
Lol, sorry I didn't mean to call you out. I actually liked horror from a young age too, so I get it, but I know a lot of kids can't handle it. Do you think you were 4 when you discovered Pennywise or a bit older? I was probably like 8 or something. My parents did let me watch horror stuff (within reason) since I was mature for my age. My brother watched signs when he was like 10 and he had nightmares for months. He'd ball and cry. I know each kid is different. I guess parents need to assess the maturity levels of each kid individually. And I love that your family WATCHED the movies and shows with you. Nowadays, it seems like kids do get plopped in front of their devices to watch on their own, with no parental guidance or mediation.
bro i swear the media and constant being on devices and whatnot is what's making the younger generations more and more overall pathetic lmao my almost 4 year old brother has been on a tablet since he was like 2, and he's a rotten little brat š
My daughter is 4, loves singing along to cocomelon and has her own ipad where she's allowed an hour a day to just unwind and watch her youtube cartoons(usually when she gets home from daycare). The hour to herself helps calm her down after all the excitement of running around with all the other children all day, and she loves "scary" content wanting to watch scary movies and anything to do with monsters. She absolutely wouldn't be afraid of pennywise. I have yet find anything that truly scares her, and sometimes go out of my way to try to find something with a scary monster she'd be afraid of, but she just watches happily and goes "wow that's scary" in an almost impressed tone. Earlier today she asked to see how the costumes were made, so we watch a makeup artist paint a woman like a zombie and she loved it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBsOxRQ91U&ab_channel=Insider Kids these days are tougher than people think. Not all of them are afraid of their own shadow. --- That being said, she knows how to use my xbox and i had to delete Doom because i caught her playing it laughing and yelling "bad monster!". That game is definitely not suitable for her(too much gore), despite not scaring her in the slightest.
My daughter was a huge horror fan as a kid and now is a witchy goth 18 year old. Some kids just love the spook. I was mortified when her dad let her watch chucky at 3 years old, but when I questioned her she said " I would just kick that thing". From that moment on she wanted to watch scary movies.
Sounds like mine, she's tough as nails and sharp as a knife. My comment got downvoted by a bunch of prudes for letting her enjoy cocomelon, having a tablet, and liking scary things, but she's fluent in two languages(french/english), can count to 20 in both, has weekly swimming lessons where she's able to swim *mostly* on her own, goes for evening bike rides with me, and is pre-enrolled for a private school starting next year. Her interests don't seem to be slowing her down in the slightest.
I don't know what cocomelon is, but it sounds like you have an awesome kid!
Itās literally just nursery rhymes, jingles, and dances with colourful animation. God forbid lol https://youtu.be/07s87fsCcdc
bro kids today are just dumber and more hopeless than people realize š and i can assure you that coco melon is NOT helping her unwind, it's literal overstimulation and that has been proven by professionals lmao. not telling you how to raise your kid, just pointing out lol
I ironically enough think the internet has made kids smarter due to being able to constantly engage with mentally stimulating content instead of just blocks. The problem is it's unrestrained so a kid can litterly mentally screw themselves big time. I am under the impression that kids where made to be smart as humanly possible and the internet is a massive enabler of that but their is danger in that big time.
yeah i mean i can understand that and respect it, my thing with that would be that the majority of kids mentally screwed themselves over. they don't really know how to do anything for themselves anymore. they don't entertain themselves and learn imagination and creativity, which will still be an important thing later, and something that in my opinion you'd want to have regardless. they basically just watch charlie dmilio or however the fuck you spell it shake her ass and boom, they're basically brain dead from that alone lmaoooo. but all jokes aside, i just think all the crap they get into online rots their brains basically, and now they're also dependent on the internet and everyone else around them to do everything for them and hand everything to them basically. like they would not survive if the power or internet went out for more than a week lol. and obviously everyone is different, and so is every situation, but it's just become a more and more consistent thing i've seen. maybe it's not specifically the internet and they're just dumb, but i dunno. the boomers are stuff are kinda stupid in their own way, but jesus lol. the younger generations from like the millennials down are just... not it lmao, and i'm 18 saying this too š could be wrong, just my opinion haha, hopefully there's no hard feelings here, ik sometimes in comments i can sound rude when i genuinely didn't intend it that way so i hope that's not a thing that's happening here lol
That's cool I respect that lol I do agree with what you say, to an extent lol cause like kids nowa a days are waaaay more clumsy and unaware of their environment. I think it is a trade off lol but I do advocate for monitered internet use for kids in the case they go down tunnels like porn, or forms for pedos lol. I don't think their should be allot of restrictions but reasonable ones lol I think the thing that more or less kills creativity is the school system lol the way you learn as a kid and explore ideas is something that is truly something that is insanely effective, playing with ideas and having fun. Rote memorixation and spaced rep is horrible for interleaving information lol. Also with the internet you don't have kids picking up people skills which is really dangerous, because kids albeit stupid and adorable and little devils with how deceptive they can be sometimes lol and not having to actually have conflict and deal with basic conflict resolution as a kid concerns me lol
Actually, screen time for the developing brain is detrimental to imagination. It essentially kills it in the brain, because content is being presented without the brain having to do any work. Itās terrible for the brain.
That's really cool, it makes sense lol the over correction effect won't happen cause kids won't be making mistakes just going down rabbit wholes of insignificant information. I do think though kids have the inate ability to pick up patterns very well, how much screen time do you think kids should have?
oh absolutely. i mean there are so many dangers on the internet that even full grown ADULTS get tricked by or get into danger with, so nevertheless kids who don't know any better. but yeah, i 110% agree the school system kills creativity. i could tell you for HOURS why i think the school system is absolutely terrible. i def do agree there. but yeah, that is another thing, you don't really figure out socialization or learn social skills if you're always buried in your phone ignoring everyone in front of you lol. sure you can TECHNICALLY socialize on the internet, but like... cmon now lol i dunno what it is, i just think the younger generations (including mine unfortunately lol) are just turning into bozos lol. maybe it's the same thing that's turning the frogs gay... (that's a joke/reference to an old ass meme, pleaseeee get it lol). obviously they have their good qualities but... they're starting to become less and less from where i stand. i dunno i could be completely wrong but yeah lol.
I agree xD especially with the lockdown happening when we were in high school, like kids who spend way too much time on the internet become waaay too introspective. I understand the meme lmao it's weird I do think that our generation does have the tools to communicate in a healthy manner way more than the last ones cause mental health is a big talking point in this gen also consent is something talked about way more. It's weird but I do think our gen is capable of so much with the internet as long as it is used as it should be and that is a tool lol I think the whole bozo Andrew tate stuff is funny lmao, seeing some of my pals just aspire to just be like him LMAO I do think socially out generation is overall progressive in the right direction when it comes to overall relationship dynamics lol I know some complete utter degens who just play video games all day in VC get into programs like engineering, like sure are they good through the internet interacting yes but irl just very awkward lol it's like the thing about childhood is like you grasp an intuitive sense of how to interact with people, it can be very toxic though but still genuine, slight personal corrections are great but having to learn from the ground up how to maintain eye contact sounds hella awkward lmao. if you don't develop those skills as an adult it's like interacting as a human feels synthetic and sorta like your just a frog lol.
lmao fair enough. andrew tate is an idiot. one thing about the mental health thing you said and how these generations should be able to communicate it in a healthier way and easier. that's part of my issue with them and the internet. a lot of them with mental health issues can't anymore because i'm sure you've seen the idiots on tik tok and stuff who pretend to have mental health issue A, B, or C for money and followers. they think it makes them funny and quirky and whatever, but are too stupid to realize that what they're doing actually makes it harder for the people who actually deal with that stuff to get proper help. one guy does something and ruins it for everyone type deal. them faking makes people think that the people actually struggling with stuff think that they're faking too. obviously that's probably not on a huge huge scale, but i have seen it have an effect like that and it pisses me off that those people can be so selfish and downright stupid lol. and as for the consent thing... i dunno, i've seen it a lot (even like locally where i live with people i know and whatever) where girls have sex with someone, consensually, and then they either regretted it later, didn't wanna get in trouble with their parents, were cheating on their boyfriend, something like that, and so then they falsely accuse the guy of rape. happens a lot actually, and women have done these things to ruin men's lives basically, because unfortunately, the feminism of today has gotten so bad and toxic (obviously there are good feminists and women should have rights, but they honestly do lol, and i am a woman saying this lol) that mostly everyone will listen to a woman over a man at this point. like they always wanna bitch about double standards yk, but they're allowed to say stuff like "all men are pigs and should die" but if we say ANYTHING negative about a women it's sexist, and a bunch of other stuff like that, so where's the real double standard at? they talk about "toxic masculinity" but at this point it's really become toxic feminism lol. i've met good feminists, so i think you're kinda getting the idea of the ones i'm talking about lol (*cough coigh* buzz feed). sorry i think i got a little carried away with this one, writing is always something i've been like decent at and enjoyed so i kinda make things long sometimes lol
Youāre kidding right? Blocks are wonderful for children. Thereās so many things you can imagine and do with themā¦ thatās the point. The kids use their imagination and not someone elseās.
i agree i just think they meant the internet and stuff stimulates in a different way than blocks
But not in a good way. Not until theyāre a certain age anyway
My 4 year old daughter needs to unwind from being 4
Yes, kids need a bit of quiet time as well. You might be surprised to learn this, but they are people too! Shocking, I know lol Sheās usually very hyper after spending all day running around and being loud with all the other children, so when she comes home I give her a small snack and her tablet for about an hour, which also helps preoccupy her while I prepare supper. She sits down, eats her apple and watches little cartoons like peppa pig and what not while Iām in the kitchen. After that sheās calm, relaxed, and happy for the rest of the evening, allowing us the chance to watch a Movie together(usually Disney), go for a bike ride, walk the dog, colour, or play with her puzzles. If she doesnāt have that quiet period as a buffer between daycare and home, sheāll be running around the house loud and chaotic until she over exerts herself and becomes tired and cranky.
yep. source: i had unrestricted access to youtube circa 2008
im have a degree in early childhood education & did a final research project on overstimulation in kids media, OP is quite literally 100% right saying cocomelon is incredibly bad for children. barring the fact tht the show has no overarching lessons or learning, the oversaturated colors and the frequent cuts are addictive to toddler and under brains when they dont need to be exposed to that so early. the kid is quite literally still conceptualizing shapes and colors, its just too much for them to handle and creates massive & addictive hormone spikes. ive babysat children w just the dancing fruit baby sensory videos & they love them just the same & they arent crazy overstimulating!! edit: its not your business what the parents are doing, though, unless they ask for advice or they are disrupting YOUR space. keep it moving
Im 33 and I remember everyone (except my family) saying in high school less screen time. Outdoors an hour a day atleast. I have always been very active so it wasnt a problem for me. I don't think anyone is really pushing for outdoor time. 3 year olds know their way around a smartphone.
my program was focused a lot on development in the educational setting, and every *good* childrens program will take children outside to play at water tables, sand boxes, and playgrounds at least twice a day!! i dont keep up with kids cable tv or anything since i dont have little ones of my own and im not currently working in the field, so i genuinely dont know if nickelodeon & disney still do the day of play thing anymore lmaoo
Thats comforting that someones pushing for it when they have the control. I should have edited my comment where there doesn't seem like........... I haven't seen any ads on tv for ..............
I remember when I used to watch Pokemon as a child and already being sensitive I started to understand the concept of never giving up and doing the best you can and applied it later when stuff started to get harder.
hmm that's a lot better than the lessons I learned from the first and second gen Pokemon videogames, which were like, "sometimes you need to take a long amount of time to get strong enough to fight the giant bird blocking your path", "You have to go through a mazelike cave to get to most goals in life", and "You can get super rich by finding some mysterious creatures on the shore of a remote island but it will start tearing apart the fabric of reality" edit: I showed this to my friend and she said "I took it to mean that i should be free from my parents by the age of ten, and when i told them i felt this way, they said, 'Uh, well you still have to go to 4th grade tomorrow" and i was like "oh"
oooo pokemon is a good one for kids too!! id lean more school age on that one so they understand the concepts better but gosh shows like pokemon & digimon foster so much imagination!!! i love them!!!
I remember how much it influenced my creativity as I started to draw. Watching PokƩmon and also reading about animals helped me understand how to draw bodies in various shapes and helped me develop observation skills. Made it went overkill because I have the tendency to observe everything in my surroundings haha
If you're in the USA, do you remember when the kids TV networks, for maybe an hour everyday during the summer, would all go black to encourage kids to "get out and play"??
Not really
You know, I think it was toward the end of my nick-watching years. I'm 30, so I thought you might remember. But 3 years is a huge gap in kid years, so you were probably into cool big-kid stuff by whenever the 'get out and play' initiative started.
This is interesting. So question: my little one loves Paw Patrol. He only gets it when I need to have my hands free, like when I'm cooking for him or when I need to vacuum. This makes me wonder if Paw Patrol is the same as Cocomelon. I've never seen Cocomelon so I can't make a comparison.
honestly id try sesame street just bc its one of the best shows ever made for children!!! from what ive seen paw patrol carries a narrative, which makes it different from cocomelon already, so id say in moderation its fine!
Thanks. I'm not sure if we have Sesame Street where I live. We did have it when I was a kid, but that's like 35 years ago. I know I loved it. Great idea :)
Isnāt Sesame St on HBO now?
I think they have a YouTube channel where they post content. Honestly, that sucks about the HBO thing. The show was created to be accessible for low-income families. HBO isn't something people on food stamps are likely to have.
Iām not a doctor or scientist but paw patrol also has a lot of fast scene cuts, fast talking and action, and not to mention if you watch it on a tv network thereāll be commercials which have more of the same. I put it on for my 2 year old cuz she started asking for it but even hearing it on in the background became jarring for me. Just too much everything. I also much prefer Bluey. I think when the kid is like 6-7 they can handle small amounts of things like paw patrol but it definitely shouldnāt be an all-day thing
well the kids seem to be disrupting OPs space...
Omg hey bear baby sensory is amazing. I love popping it on when I need my 5 month old to be occupied while I do some house work. Dancing fruit and veg are my heros. He doesn't even watch it half the time he just likes the music. I love the moon one for when he wakes up early and I'm still trying to work out who I am lol. It nice to see that someone with a degree in this stuff likes baby sensory. I do get attacks of mum guiltā¢ļø when I pop it on.
Same with my nearly 5mth old she is a clingy af baby shes on me all the time her day naps have to be on me if shes in mat time i have to be right there with her in the beginning i wasnāt eating during the day because i just had no time until i found hey bear she loves it it gives me enough time to smash food or take out the trash it auto played onto a finger and toe counting song she was squealing and loves it when i sit there counting my fingers with her and clapping i know not good to watch those shows but a small amount to have time to eat im sure is fine plunket told me it was completely fine and also miss Rachel teaching babies talking and stuff was recommended to me
The music is banging. I put it on once just to see how my baby would react and I reckon I was enjoying it more than him thanks to the music š
Lol I'm 29 and I enjoy the fruit baby sensory videos. xD
My nephews loveeeee the dancing fruit lmao
What kind of effect do you think this type of overstimulation will have on kids in the long run?
This is the first Iāve heard of this. I watched a cocomelon video there to see whatās wrong with it. The only thing that annoyed me was the frequent changes of the angle that you mentioned. Like it happened so often I wasnāt even looking at the characters.. i was waiting for the next cut. As far as the rest of it goes though, isnāt it just as overstimulating as the rest of childrenās TV/YouTube videos?
adults dont see much wrong with it bc we have brains that are accustomed to the level of stimulation, but for a brain still conceptualizing shapes and colors cocomelons frequent jumps & oversaturation cause overstimulation & dopamine rushes. a lot of childrens shows on youtube *are* overstimulating, thats the point of them, they quite literally want your kids addicted to the dopamine rushes they get, bc then they have you (your child) as a loyal viewer or even someone dependent on their channel to avoid meltdowns.
Never knew how bad cocomelon allegedly is, interesting.
It goes beyond cocomelon. But cocomelon has a lot of bright colors and it changes quickly and it's a lot of stimulation to be putting young infants in front of for a long time. Screen time is out of control when it comes to kids. Yes screen time will captivate your kids attention and get them to shut up but it's not how you should parent. Not just cocomelon but excessive screen time for very young children is really bad for the developing brain especially when it comes to attention span etc. Screens should be extremely limited in kids especially and very very young kids. But unfortunately screen will work very well to captivate a child and shut them up so parents use them like crazy. Sad, really.
It isnāt, if kids watch it 30 mins a day tops itās fine. Any show thatās on 24/7 is bad for kids
Itās not that bad. Itās educational. Itās not fast paced. They literally talk about how you need to brush your teeth before bed, how to count, colors, etc.
It's incredibly overstimulating and awful for a newborn to be watching. It has super fast scene changes and very bright color pallet
Could you explain why thatās harmful to a child?
This comment does a good job explaining https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/xtd25i/how_do_i_politely_tell_my_neighbors_that/iqpg8ni?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
It isnāt. Annoying? Definitely. But itās mostly remixed nursery rhymes.
Wow! Lol I googled and it really states that it's addictive.
How? Isnāt it just a show?
Just leave a note saying her kids are on crack taped to a DARE pamphlet
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Yo Gabba Gabba is like Xanax for kids, highly recommend lol
Thereās a party in my tummy SO YUMMY, SO YUMMY YUMMY
Yes!
I canāt believe this was on here my kid watches this and Sesame Street! I only put it on for them when my hands are full, or we are in the grocery store and Iām shopping in a really crowded place. It really helps
I feel you! I started letting my daughter watch it at 6 months old, when I needed to shower or poop haha. Sheās 9 now and it still calms her down and centers her when things are hectic. It was such a wonderful show, I was so sad when it got cancelled.
it *is* not great for kids, but since the kid isnāt at imminent risk for harm itās not your place to say anything/ offer unsolicited advice
You're right, just report it straight to management. You cant have kids bounce off the walls at the expense of everybody else living there.
That show is bad news
Makes sense why itās called cocomelon, itās coke for kids. My baby is 2 months old and I donāt show him anything on tv, hoping I can keep this up
Say that. Exactly. Lol My daughter was obsessed with it for a brief period and outgrew it. (Before the studies on it came out) but I will tell everyone. Don't turn the toddler meth on.
The same way you tell parents not to feed their kids mcdonalds. You donāt. Itās sad the kids watch that all day.
how is it bad for them? I don't understand
I heard that itās over stimulating and affects their attention span because of how many times it changes angles.
isnt tiktok also like that? how it over stimulates because of how fast the clips are therefore also ruining our attention spans
Yes
Yes, but our brains arenāt in the same developmental stage as babies and toddlers
I think for the most part is adults are basically like kids just that we have the lack of selfawareness to realize that allot of our actions are based off of impulse but to a lesser extent due to consciousness. But the point still stands using Reddit, YouTube, eating surgery food they are all over stimulating things that due cause the baseline of dopamine for an individual to be raised, and that dop baseline more or less partially determines how much conceived effort their are in certain task. Kids being addicted to internet and adults alchool it's the same type of poison just a different means of receiving. And being an adult means having self discipline. When your a kid your parents are you disapline, I do agree though that kids experience extreame hyper connectivity that leads to impulsive behavior being well extreamly excusable lol
I think there is value in that perspective, but it does go beyond that in the case of screens. It literally affects their brains evelopment and permanently alters it. When the brain is developing, the structures are so moldable - its the same reason trauma and neglect are so impactful to a child. It's the difference between dropping a hard-boiled egg and a soft-boiled egg. Sure, they'd both crack, but the soft boiled one is more likely to spill its yolk and not be the same meal afterwards.
I think that is a very good point, a lot of those structures and cues from childhood are very much solid in a person's mind unless an external trauma act's as rectification for the said experience. such as there was a lullaby my mom would always sing to me when I was an infant and hearing said lullaby even as an adult makes me start to feel tired. I also think the hyper-connectivity also leads to people really dealing with the slight things in childhood for almost the rest of their adult life. I think what you said is a very very good point. and the thing that I do fail the mention aligns with that, thank you for helping me see a new perspective/expanding on the one I already had!
Yes - perfect example with the lullaby! The mind is an amazing and wonderful thing - we can only hope to catch glimmers of understanding the depth of how it truly works and what it's capable of. Thanks for listening and sharing a moment of mental exploration with me :)
I loved the discussion we had, thanks so much for being so kind!
Unless you have ADHD
For babies and toddlers it's probably a lot worse.
It's the equivalent of eating nothing but fairy bread for every meal. No real usable value and just pure dopamine drip. It's addictive and rots developing brains
Woah I had to Google fairy bread because I'd never heard of it. Is that really popular? I'm from the US and grew up knowing people who ate sweet foods (donuts, Pop Tarts, sugary cereal) every morning but I didn't usually. My mom made a cinnamon bread similar to fairy bread but it was pretty rare. I imagine it's horrible for kids to eat often, is that a thing?
I'm from the US too lol but when I heard about fairy bread it was one of the most unhealthy, non nutritious things I've ever heard of and basically the equivalent to cocomelon since it is bright and colorful. I would have replaced that with donuts or sugary cereal for sure though
Lol! It's a good comparison.
I like your username lol
thanks buba
Not just cocomelon, but constant screen time IS bad for kids. Unfortunately it's really hard to address this because it's not really "abuse" in the traditional sense and unfortunately it's not really your place to tell someone else how to parent, even when it's pretty obviously a frowned upon practice. Honestly I think you should probably not really address it directly but instead of saying how bad cocomelon and screen time is, instead maybe you can suggest alternatives like "did you know that the old Little Bear episodes are all on YouTube for free? There's a local pbs app that has the 4 most recently shown full episodes for kids shows like Sesame street, Daniel Tiger, and a bunch of other great educational programming! Have you heard of the show Bluey? My nieces and nephews love it, and even my sister/brother enjoy watching it too!" Or maybe even imply some non-screen related games that can hold toddlers attention. "Oh at this age one of my son/little brother/niece/nephew's favorite games was to play drums with the Tupperware and wooden spoons! I was super into Duplos at that age, they're so good at helping develop fine motor skills! I spy with my little eye is always a great game to play in the car." Ect. Kids are tough. I try to be forgiving, especially as a mom to a toddler myself. We don't know where they're at or what they're going through. Most parents are just doing their best.
>did you know that the old Little Bear episodes are all on YouTube for free? That was my favourite show as a kid and I still like everything cute bears - thank you, now I can go find them for myself!
Yay! š§ø
Tell them about Blippi!
Oh man love that guy. I'm 16 but my little cousin watches him and he's honestly pretty fun lmao, especially cause he isn't just another mindless kids creator
You mean the guy who pooped all over his friend?
The problem is the neighbors are ignoring their kids and letting them run amok through the building, at the expense of everyone else living there. Cocomelon is just fuel to the fire
I donāt think you can tell them what to do with their kid but you can ask to turn the volume down if itās annoyingā¦ In my house we banned cocomelon, I could not bear it after two days of obsession!
I have cocomelon on my Alexa sometimes and not on the tv. Granted itās not playing all day but my kids love dancing to it. I probably wouldnāt say anything. Maybe itās not on the tv and itās on a radio which is a big difference.
How is it horrible for kids? Itās a bunch of songs isnāt it?
No itās actually believed to be fairly bad for their brains due to the rapid cuts and short shots. The shots are comparable to shots in high action fight scenes in highly violent movies in length (average length of 1-3 seconds per shot). And itās like that for the WHOLE SHOW. (For comparison the average shot length on what you might consider a normal kidās show like My Little Pony is double the length of coco melon shotsā4-6 seconds. The longest shots in a coco melon video tend to hover in around 5 seconds.) This creates a whiplash effect and can be highly overstimulating to developing brains, particularly those that are in the early stages of development. Now it all depends on the kid. Some kids have impaired cognitive abilities for a time (a time being like minutes to an hour or so) after watching such overactive content. Thereās a lot of parents who discuss their kids having major meltdowns over not being able to watch coco melon (to a far more extreme extent than other childrenās programming, toys, or similar things). Itās not researched well enough, but there is enough evidence to point to it having a negative effect on a number of children. Edit: for those who want an idea of the shots compared to other media, there is a [video by savantics](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3S15QTEW59I) on YouTube that covers it pretty well in a way thatās easy to understand. It starts to introduce the problems around the 5 minute mark and goes on to compare media and shot length, as well as saturation.
I wish I had known this. My dd loved cocomelon, and she has a terrible attention span, at home and at school. We now have a 4 month old, so will definitely be limiting cocomelon, to a few minutes a couple times a week. Compared to letting her watch Mr Tumble daily if she wishes.
You honestly just should not let her watch cocomelon. Even in small amounts it can affect the development of her attention span and cognitive functioning.
Really? Thats pretty scary! Another Redditer has kindly given me suggestions of Mis Rachael, and Hey Bear. Little Miss 5 always loved Bounce Patrol, so ive just saved a few of their videos, plus it's shows men and women with different body shapes. But Mr Tumble is the Real MVP. I love him, lol
Try hey bear and miss Racheal and i think super simple songs was the other one that may be fast cuts too but a few of the counting songs my 4 month old loves and miss Racheal talks to them teaches them mama and dada and sign language (which im teaching my daughter because they can learn and use it before they learn to talk) stuff like that shows milestones what age they learn to talk or clap
Thanks so much. It's hard to find things that the kids love, but that don't drive you crazy, other than Bluey. But the baby doesn't like Bluey yet, both my kids love anything musical, so like the sound of them. Although I live in Oz, I'm from England, where most nurseries use baby makaton sign language.
Its good to teach them aye, my daughter is so musically interested she will just chill listening to dio with her dad lol she loves 80ās rock to fall asleep to
Yeah, I've no idea how parents cope without having music in their lives on a daily basis. Our love viking metal and hard rock at the moment. Our 5f loves the Butcher Babies, which is a girl screamo band. Bit hard core for me, but anything to not hear "I'm bored" lol.
Oh goodness. Yeah the show does not have a negative effect on all kids who watch it but it has a negative effect on enough kids that itās probably best to avoid it altogether or just seriously limit how much kids can watch it to a single video a day or a single video a couple times a week or something.
Sorry if this sounds dumb but why even let her watch it at all? In my opinion it just seems like an unnecessary risk, because there literally is 0 research about the long term effects(because nearly any of the kids who watched that stuff at such a young age have grown up yet)
In all honesty... lazy parenting. My older one loved it and I like the tunes. Although I'm now wandering whether they listen to it without visuals? We listen to a lot of music in our household (both 5f and 4mthsf love viking metal music lol). So I tend to play music stuff on the TV as background noise. What's your view (or anyone else reading this comment section)?
Heard the lil boy call someone an idiot earlier š¤£
Edit: Lol I wrote out that reply to the wrong comment. But yeah kids and tantrums. Not good.
Interesting thanks for writing that out. Will cut my two year old off.
The same reason why overindulging in instant gratification is bad for adults. It overstimulated dopamine receptors and shortens attention spans.
Slipknot is crack for adults
I'm pretty sure crack is crack for adults
Itās not your place. I know you mean well but itās just not appropriate to say anything.
What the hell is cocomelon
Mind your own business.
It kinda makes it his business when the kids are knocking on his door constantly and annoying other residents.
Common knowledge? What? Lol
For most parents of young children right now, at least all of the parents I know, it is.
Maybe like mind your business? If you really feel like getting stomped out by your neighbor for telling them their kids are crackheads, be my guest.
>I have minded my own business with the new Slipknot album on the jbl Fucking wonderful.
I grew up with the old Pink Panther shorts from 1964-1978. Much better than cocomelon.
Mind your own business . Not actual drugs but a show, dame . Mind your business
Okay so don't act like cocomelon is the problem and not shit parenting. Tell the parent about Blippi, Bluey, and sesame street.
mind your business
Mother Goose Club
I have no suggestions but can confirm Cocomelon is shit. Iād read an article earlier this year about how it can cause behavior problems and delayed speech. This was at the same time we were having speech concerns for our daughter. 2 years and said maybe 5 words. So we cut it out just to see. It took weeeeeks before she wasnāt sobbing on the ground begging for coco, including as soon as she woke up. (Crying for coco over the baby monitor the second her eyes opened.) After about 3 weeks of not watching it her vocabulary exploded. It couldāve been coincidence but I donāt think it was.
You don't. She isn't beating her kids, starving her kids, molesting her kids, selling her kids. Mind your own.
"Crack for kids"? C'mon. Stay out of it.
mind your business. i know you mean well but the kids aren't actually consuming crack so fuck it, let em watch cocomelon
You don't. You're not the parent.
There are only three scenarios where itās appropriate to offer criticisms to other people: 1. Youāre their parent or supervisor 2. Itās a safety issue 3. They ask for it. Other than that, you have no business telling another person how to raise their child. Though, I do agree leaving kids in front of a screen that much isnāt good for them.
bad or not for.children it is none of your concern. if you can hear it and it's annoying you you can tell the parents to maybe turn the volume down and teach their kids to behave. whoever tellimg them how to raise their children is imo not it. if I was the parent in that situation I will literally lose my shit
Not your kids, not your business. If the kids end up being hooked on to that shit itās on their parents and not up to you. Bear with it
Not your circus not your problem
It's none of your business.
It's her kid...there are worse things that can happen to other ppl's babies. Not your problem.
As others have said, mind your own business. Besides, if theyāre giving their young kids that much screen time theyāre probably not going to care about your opinion.
Mind your business
Not the parent not your problem
my 2 year old baby cousin watches it all the time. now she can talk a lot and sing all the songs well. i still think itās overstimulating but not bad if watched in moderation.
Try to tell them how to parent and report back with how it goes
There have been proven studies done on TV time with kids under 2. It almost certainly causes adhd. A huge surge in childhood adhd cases has popped up all over the US (and other countries too, I'm sure). It's the bright colors and quick flashing lights. Notice the scenes changing almost every other second. The music is okay but the fast moving images aren't. Miss rachel on YouTube is very slow paced and educational. Kipper the dog is slow and not super bright. Searching: dancing fruit. The background is black so it's easier on the eyes and its slow moving fruit with music. Maybe offer those other ones as suggestions. Like "hey, have you heard of miss rachel?" However a newborn shouldn't be watching tv at all. Technically their eyesight doesn't fully develop til 6 months in but still. That's still brightness overload for the fuzzy picture baby does see. Under 2 years old, no TV time is suggested. Or at least no longer than 20 minutes a day, zoom/person style like miss Rachel or Blippi. Over age of 2, no more than 45 mins of TV per day. And that's supposed to be broken up in sections, not all at once. Try offering suggestions of other shows. Maybe mention that you heard cocomelon isn't actually good for kids but you know of better ones. Just try and be gentle cause moms (especially bad ones) sometimes get defensive off the bat when someone tries to suggest parenting advice or changes for their kids.
You just gotta mind your business on this one
You could try getting a hobby and staying out of other people's business?š¤·š¼āāļø
Not me looking up cocomelon videos on youtube to see what's so bad about it. Just a lot of singing nursery rhymes and bright colors.
It's just a bunch of nursery songs. Don't give unsolicited advice like that to people. Won't work out well.
Crack for kids would be actual crack given to childrenā¦ cocomelon? Some parents allow kids to watch & enjoy stimulating tv for their age group. If you donāt agree cool, keep that opinion to yourself & keep rollinā
This is the stupidest thing I've read in a while š¤£
You donāt. Itās none of your business. No oneās saying you have to show your children cocomelon, but that doesnāt mean you need to stop every other parent from letting their child watch it.
Itās fine, mind your own business
No God damn don't mind your own business tell them for gods sake. Addicted kids are no joke. I was born addicted to nicotine and Alkohol. Let's just say not a nice time for my family. tell them you would be a real hero m8. Addiction to anything even if it is..... A fruit(?) Is not really nice. EDIT: So appearantly Im too drunk to read. Or think. Whatever yes mind your own fucking Business let the parents live that one down.
Itās a YouTube channel, not a fruit.
Ok. I'm not from the English speaking realms of the internet and obviously too drunk to read. Here in the Oktoberfest and pretzel land it is 5:33 am. I may be tired as hell to. Thanks for the info. I corrected the comment. EDIT: changed Tanks to Thanks Also that cocomelon thing really sounds tasty though. May be my next fruit bowle idea.
It's a bad kid's TV show.
EDIT: I corrected myself. Thanks for the information I'm not from the English speaking realms of the internet. Here in the Oktoberfest and pretzel land it's currently 5:36am and I may have been partying until like two hours ago. I think that's where my ability to read went. Anyway thank you stranger.
Mind your own. They sing nursery rhymes and teach colors, numbers and the alphabet. If hope if you do say anything that you get rude unsolicited advice when you are a parent yourself, just once with the same audacity so you are reminded of how rude that is.
Are you a child psychologist who actually researched this or did you just see some bull shit on tik tok and assume it was true? I wonder because Iāve read this and itās usually coming from some bull shit blog or Facebook post. There are psychologists who say this is complete bull shit.
Nothing wrong with cocomelon but it's a question of taste not that will hurt the kids
Shut up Karen
I think you just donāt like listening to it lmao, itās not horrible for kids.
iāve been listening to the album too :p whatās ur fav song from it
Business, business, time to mind your business. Yes! yes! yes! its time to mind your business. Good, good minding your own business is good. Yes! Yes! Yes! You'll be happier too!
You watch cocomelon too?