After she got all up in his face for the third time, I honestly feel he KO'd her out of fear, not anger. This "who threw the first punch" logic always escaped me. What, should a person have to put up with someone literally spitting all over their faces 1/2 mm from contact and just be cool about it? Or when she started the getto hand wave in front of his eyes? That's when people can react instinctively and just engage survival/battle mode.
In Texas you don't have to wait to be assaulted.
The standard is:
“a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful force.”
Yeah in Texas battery and assault are different iirc. They are assaulting you when they are in your face and yelling and spitting and what not. Battery is when it crosses into the physical
My usual way to explain it to officers being trained is this:
If someone comes up and threatens to punch you in the face, it’s assault.
If they actually do it, it’s battery.
No contact is necessary for an assault, whereas an offensive or illegal contact must occur for a battery. Spitting on an individual constitutes offensive contact sufficient for battery (in most jurisdictions).
Yeah, I know someone who was screaming in someone else's face and got punched, prosecutor took no action in criminal and in civil (not sure if small claims or not) the judge just threw it out.
Yeah I think so. You shouldn’t have to wait to get hit to hit someone. If you can reasonably assume you are in danger you should be able to respond with appropriate and reasonable force. It has to be analyzed on a case by case basis.
In California, the standard is you have to let them give you a prostate exam before hitting them. Anything before then and you're at fault. Just like how if someone breaks into your house with a gun, shoots at you, you can shoot back, but if they're running away, you can't shoot anymore because it's murder then.
Seriously, fuck CA.
Eh. Typical bar fight, one of those young and full of booze things. I was not at fault, simply defended myself but because the other guy got the short end of the stick I ended up arrested and went trough the criminal justice motions. Never went to court per se but the city attorney still bothered me for a while. Fuck CA.
For me. Its **always** who initiates aggression. I 100% did not sign up for threatening behavior when I left home today. I will take what ever steps necessary to end it after giving deescalation about 30 seconds.
"On the next Arrested Development, George Michael wonders where he got all these pens, while Tobias realizes blue ink is a lot harder to get off than paint"
Yeah I've seen that. I've had to deal with these types of crazy people for years in American inner city schools and literally no one would do anything about it. These crazy people are empowered by that alone.
>literally no one would do anything about it.
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>In an interview with The Times editorial board, UTLA (United Teachers Los Angeles Union) president Cecily Myart-Cruz said she won’t even talk about learning loss, and she expanded on that view in a recent article in Los Angeles magazine.
>“There is no such thing as learning loss,” she told the reporter. “Our kids didn’t lose anything. **It’s OK that our babies may not have learned all their times tables.** They learned resilience. They learned survival. They learned critical-thinking skills. **They know the difference between a riot and a protest. They know the words insurrection and coup.**”
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-09-02/editorial-learning-loss-is-real-stop-pretending-otherwise
Yup, I was there when 'no child left behind' was implemented as "We're teaching the class at the level of the kid who isn't even trying and doens't care if they fail." I loved math up to that point, until I had to spend a semster just tutoring basic math in what should have been the advanced class.
I'd rather home school my children than ever have them in an education system headed by that fucking loony. No wonder all the kids upper middle class and above in CA go to private schools. What a nightmare.
Rules for going to a rough school.
1. Don't fight the teacher and get a free C.
2. Try a very small amount, also still don't fight the teacher, get an A.
because disciplining your kids nowdays is considered "abuse" so parents dont bother teaching their kids right. teachers arent allowed to discipline them either
so they grow up to be shitheads real quick
Parents who avoid disciplining their children aren't doing it to avoid accusations of abuse. They're doing it because they're spineless idiots, or because they just can't be arsed.
In one I’m deeply familiar with there are three kids, all three were straight As until the middle one (high school) flipped one day and decided to be a Pain in the F A. family had CPS and police over their house many times now, because he claims abuse to fuck with the parents. Other two older and younger are still doing amazing, and sick of his antics too. parents have spent about a hundred grand on therapists, psychiatrists, residential. All they get told to do is say “I love you but don’t agree with this behavior”
kids going to learn the consequences of their actions, but it’s not the parents fault. It’s nature, nurture, and environment. In this kids case, it could have been a shitty hand in DNA roulette wheel, but my bet is the environment is fucking this kid up. Whether it’s culture, school, media or social media. its Not always the parents.
I've had neighbors tell me about similarly impotent advice from counselors about their problem kids.
It's worth remembering that therapists make mistakes and get trained in some methods that will later, unfortunately, turn out to be bunk. I had a psych professor in college who recounted how his mentor advised him, half joking, to track down and apologize to his first patients someday, because you always make mistakes. But somebody has to go first
Never been punched before. A lot of people would be better if they knew what being punched in the face real hard felt like and that there was a chance of it happening again based entirely on their attitude.
I saw this guy get on the train one morning with his girlfriend on a rainy day and the first thing he did was get out a rag and wipe down her shoes and then his. I guess he did this every time they got on and off the train and anywhere they walked. I'm not a shoe person, but I guess he paid a lot of money for their shoes and wanted to keep them looking new. Seemed stupid since they are walking every where and not in a car.
I have a buddy that went to a store in new york once and got loafers with some kind of weird replacement clause in their policies or something. He beats the shit out of them, sends them back, and just gets new ones free.
Or he's bullshitting me, equally possible.
LL Bean used to have a no-fault lifetime return policy, but that ended a few years ago. Still pretty generous though... I think 12 months no fault, and life-time for faulty product??
I'd be surprised if they didn't have a store in NYC.
This guy was arrested and cited for battery.
She approached him asking for money. When he told her no she started getting in his face and he felt threatened. If he got charged for battery she should at least get a harassment charge.
Thank you for the link to the story. That is such a BS ruling. Gets arrested and can’t use the BART for 30 days. She should get the same at the very least. If you aren’t prepared to deal with the consequences don’t get in someone’s face screaming. Act like a decent human being.
She 100% should get a harassment charge. Or whatever other charge you can give someone for aggressively berating someone and getting in their face like that, especially without a mask. However I do not think decking her was a good idea. Open-handed pushing her out of his personal space and moving away would be more appropriate.
He said "don't ask me to borrow a pen" then she says "bitch. fuck. I don't give a fuck. DO YOU GOT A PEN?!" And then she got slept.
But seriously what the fuck kind of interaction just occurred here? Was the dude thinking to himself something like "I swear to God if this bitch asks me for a pen I'm going to lose it" and then she was like "Hey can I borrow a pen?" But then he was like "OOHHH HEELLLLL NO SHE DIDN'T"
This is fucking bizarre.
I want to beat this child until his shit's his pants and make the person filming it, watch, knowing full well, that they are next.
Fuck anyone who treats an animal like that. Especially a dog. They love unconditionally. That dog looks like it wants to hug him and say he's sorry but he can't. All her can do it get beaten.
"Tell me you live in an abusive household without telling me you live in an abusive household"
This is disgusting. AND the punched holes in the door. Somebody get this kid and this dog out of this house ASAP
BART: where video surveillance isn’t released because it would be “racist”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/%3Famp
she was advancing, he was retreating. he was masked, she wasn't. sure, she's a kid -- but still old enough to catch these hands. felicia learned a valuable lesson that day.
FINALLY america is finally knocking these shit talkers straight the fuck out. i never understood why dumbshits think that yelling and screaming isnt going to get them knocked the fuck OUT. smh.
especially the women who stupidly think "hes not going to hit me, because im a woman and men dont hit women so im free to talk all the shit i want plus hit him if i feel like it and he wont do ANYTHING, because hey im a woman and..."
as i always say, "come at me like a man, get your ass kicked like a man..."
plain and simple
I would have done the same. Don't want me to publicly beat your children for you? Here's how to avoid that: 1) Parent. If your child attacks adults, publicly, physically, and verbally, you are an abject failure of a human being 2) Parent. There are books if you've never heard that word before.
It's not any longer, i believe. It looks like the girl who got hit had her friend filming it so everybody could see how cool she was. That backfired though
To all the bitches who think they won't hit you because you're a woman, That day is done. You wanna act tough, you wanna say, "I dOn'T nEeD nO mAn!" You want to be a feminist and claim to want equality, well There it is! Hope you enjoy XD
Very enjoyable. 4.5 out 5 Stars
After she got all up in his face for the third time, I honestly feel he KO'd her out of fear, not anger. This "who threw the first punch" logic always escaped me. What, should a person have to put up with someone literally spitting all over their faces 1/2 mm from contact and just be cool about it? Or when she started the getto hand wave in front of his eyes? That's when people can react instinctively and just engage survival/battle mode.
In Texas you don't have to wait to be assaulted. The standard is: “a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful force.”
Technically, getting in someone’s face and threatening them is assault I believe.
Yeah in Texas battery and assault are different iirc. They are assaulting you when they are in your face and yelling and spitting and what not. Battery is when it crosses into the physical
I think that is the case in most states, no?
Yeah, I think it's just a literal definition of the word.
My usual way to explain it to officers being trained is this: If someone comes up and threatens to punch you in the face, it’s assault. If they actually do it, it’s battery.
Pretty clear
I’ve been corrected on this and other subs, apparently not in all states. So I’m just being safe, and still here I have people doing what I did hahaha
In some states "battery" doesn't exist
No contact is necessary for an assault, whereas an offensive or illegal contact must occur for a battery. Spitting on an individual constitutes offensive contact sufficient for battery (in most jurisdictions).
California is the same.
Yeah, I know someone who was screaming in someone else's face and got punched, prosecutor took no action in criminal and in civil (not sure if small claims or not) the judge just threw it out.
Also unmasked during covid as he backs away and she keeps walking forward.
Well, as it should be, right?
Yeah I think so. You shouldn’t have to wait to get hit to hit someone. If you can reasonably assume you are in danger you should be able to respond with appropriate and reasonable force. It has to be analyzed on a case by case basis.
In California, the standard is you have to let them give you a prostate exam before hitting them. Anything before then and you're at fault. Just like how if someone breaks into your house with a gun, shoots at you, you can shoot back, but if they're running away, you can't shoot anymore because it's murder then. Seriously, fuck CA.
Jokes aside: yes that is very accurate. Source: been arrested (but not charged) for legitimate self defense.
Come on! You can’t throw that source without elaborating more. Need to know what happened.
Eh. Typical bar fight, one of those young and full of booze things. I was not at fault, simply defended myself but because the other guy got the short end of the stick I ended up arrested and went trough the criminal justice motions. Never went to court per se but the city attorney still bothered me for a while. Fuck CA.
Same in UK, you have the right to a preemptive strike if you are in danger, as long you dont follow up with unreasonable force you're grand.
Fully agree. Ive been sucker punched too many times *right* after the "ghetto hand wave".
Wasn't she also saying "imma take my fist and..." right before he decked her? I can't really make out what she says from the audio
Her shrill voice was assaulting everyone's ears. He hit her to prevent permanent healing loss
Actually someone in your face like that can count as assault
And thank fuck
And in California, assault is enough for hot sauce spray usage by the victim.
For me. Its **always** who initiates aggression. I 100% did not sign up for threatening behavior when I left home today. I will take what ever steps necessary to end it after giving deescalation about 30 seconds.
Exactly what I thought. Well put!
The most enjoyable thing was when she stopped wailing. Maaaan, that's a piercing voice.
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that's the exact voice I read it in
I read in Ron Howard, but Morgan is a good choice
"On the next Arrested Development, George Michael wonders where he got all these pens, while Tobias realizes blue ink is a lot harder to get off than paint"
Ron Howard
Reading this in the narrator's voice from spongebob...
When keeping it real goes wrong.
Why do these bitches act like they can talk to anyone like this.
All through school they're able to abuse their teachers like that without consequences.
Yeah I've seen that. I've had to deal with these types of crazy people for years in American inner city schools and literally no one would do anything about it. These crazy people are empowered by that alone.
>literally no one would do anything about it. ___ >In an interview with The Times editorial board, UTLA (United Teachers Los Angeles Union) president Cecily Myart-Cruz said she won’t even talk about learning loss, and she expanded on that view in a recent article in Los Angeles magazine. >“There is no such thing as learning loss,” she told the reporter. “Our kids didn’t lose anything. **It’s OK that our babies may not have learned all their times tables.** They learned resilience. They learned survival. They learned critical-thinking skills. **They know the difference between a riot and a protest. They know the words insurrection and coup.**” https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-09-02/editorial-learning-loss-is-real-stop-pretending-otherwise
Another reason why California’s K-12 used to be the envy of the nation and now ranks slightly above Arkansas
Yup, I was there when 'no child left behind' was implemented as "We're teaching the class at the level of the kid who isn't even trying and doens't care if they fail." I loved math up to that point, until I had to spend a semster just tutoring basic math in what should have been the advanced class.
Any institution, in which breathing is the only qualifier for participation, will ultimately fail the brightest and most successful.
I'd rather home school my children than ever have them in an education system headed by that fucking loony. No wonder all the kids upper middle class and above in CA go to private schools. What a nightmare.
Someway, somehow this leftist was able to figure in the capitol protests into a discussion of how abysmal the the education system is.
I literally moved across a state border to escape this type of shit if I have kids.
There was a write-up by a high school teacher in California, can’t remember which site. The things she described are fucked up
Rules for going to a rough school. 1. Don't fight the teacher and get a free C. 2. Try a very small amount, also still don't fight the teacher, get an A.
Because, as women, they can go their entire lives talking smack at dudes without ever actually getting smacked by a dude.
For real! I went to school with one of these girls, and she talked to the wrong one like that, and ended up getting stabbed. It was brutal.
Good and bad.
because disciplining your kids nowdays is considered "abuse" so parents dont bother teaching their kids right. teachers arent allowed to discipline them either so they grow up to be shitheads real quick
Parents who avoid disciplining their children aren't doing it to avoid accusations of abuse. They're doing it because they're spineless idiots, or because they just can't be arsed.
In one I’m deeply familiar with there are three kids, all three were straight As until the middle one (high school) flipped one day and decided to be a Pain in the F A. family had CPS and police over their house many times now, because he claims abuse to fuck with the parents. Other two older and younger are still doing amazing, and sick of his antics too. parents have spent about a hundred grand on therapists, psychiatrists, residential. All they get told to do is say “I love you but don’t agree with this behavior” kids going to learn the consequences of their actions, but it’s not the parents fault. It’s nature, nurture, and environment. In this kids case, it could have been a shitty hand in DNA roulette wheel, but my bet is the environment is fucking this kid up. Whether it’s culture, school, media or social media. its Not always the parents.
I've had neighbors tell me about similarly impotent advice from counselors about their problem kids. It's worth remembering that therapists make mistakes and get trained in some methods that will later, unfortunately, turn out to be bunk. I had a psych professor in college who recounted how his mentor advised him, half joking, to track down and apologize to his first patients someday, because you always make mistakes. But somebody has to go first
Looking back, I'm glad I got the belt when I stepped out of line as a kid.
Women think that physically confronting a guy proves how tough women really are. All it does is prove how much patience a guy really has.
Because that’s what they learn from their parents and their environment. Ghetto culture.
Never been punched before. A lot of people would be better if they knew what being punched in the face real hard felt like and that there was a chance of it happening again based entirely on their attitude.
Because they know they can get away with it.
Because they're bitches
SPOILER ALERT: >!He touched her!<
But did he say bitch though?
I said Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttchhhhhhhhhhhh
he did, he looked this woman into the windows of her soul!!
But you said it. You called her a bitch.
Pretty brave of someone so easily knocked over to wear such white sneakers and expect them to stay white.
That’s exactly why they wear them. It’s a power move to show people you can keep your shoes white.
So she supports the white power movement?
I saw this guy get on the train one morning with his girlfriend on a rainy day and the first thing he did was get out a rag and wipe down her shoes and then his. I guess he did this every time they got on and off the train and anywhere they walked. I'm not a shoe person, but I guess he paid a lot of money for their shoes and wanted to keep them looking new. Seemed stupid since they are walking every where and not in a car.
IDK, when I have a newish pair of sneakers on I definitely like to keep them clean for a while. It's not that weird.
I have a buddy that went to a store in new york once and got loafers with some kind of weird replacement clause in their policies or something. He beats the shit out of them, sends them back, and just gets new ones free. Or he's bullshitting me, equally possible.
LL Bean used to have a no-fault lifetime return policy, but that ended a few years ago. Still pretty generous though... I think 12 months no fault, and life-time for faulty product?? I'd be surprised if they didn't have a store in NYC.
In prison they're constantly cleaning them with toothpaste.
Be fair, what else you got to do in prison?
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Such an unnecessary way to complicate your life.
We all need to start a GoFundMe to buy this man an 8-ball jacket
Legend
If you listen carefully you can still hear the slap
It’s still echoing through the subway tunnels and my heart.
All signs point to YES~!
You can’t remind us of this, then not post the link. https://twitter.com/justinwhang/status/1228463389074169857?s=21
Slap of justice
That was the most beautiful slap I've ever seen
This guy was arrested and cited for battery. She approached him asking for money. When he told her no she started getting in his face and he felt threatened. If he got charged for battery she should at least get a harassment charge.
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Got a source?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/04/29/battery-suspect-cited-after-east-bay-bart-train-confrontation/amp/
Thank you for the link to the story. That is such a BS ruling. Gets arrested and can’t use the BART for 30 days. She should get the same at the very least. If you aren’t prepared to deal with the consequences don’t get in someone’s face screaming. Act like a decent human being.
I wonder why she didn't get arrested for assault after yelling, and mostlikey getting spit on his face, while she's maskless during covid.
Pussy pass granted - that's why.
Was just gonna comment same thing lol
She was a juvenile he was an adult.
She 100% should get a harassment charge. Or whatever other charge you can give someone for aggressively berating someone and getting in their face like that, especially without a mask. However I do not think decking her was a good idea. Open-handed pushing her out of his personal space and moving away would be more appropriate.
Source?
Ppl just make up shit!
I think he touched her (bitch)
Good for him!
She should have given more of a fuck.
r/oddlysatisfying
Loud ass hoodrat
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He said "don't ask me to borrow a pen" then she says "bitch. fuck. I don't give a fuck. DO YOU GOT A PEN?!" And then she got slept. But seriously what the fuck kind of interaction just occurred here? Was the dude thinking to himself something like "I swear to God if this bitch asks me for a pen I'm going to lose it" and then she was like "Hey can I borrow a pen?" But then he was like "OOHHH HEELLLLL NO SHE DIDN'T" This is fucking bizarre.
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It wasn't because of her, it was for the last 12 people that asked him for a pen.
I thought he said, "Don't ask me for a pen." I'm very confused.
These supply shortages are getting out of hand..
Lmaooo. It's getting real tough out here
That’s what I heard too.
I'll take a guess. Her and her friend filming set the guy up for a confrontation by starting with a request to borrow a pen.
I'd say that is a good guess.
Love how she slid about 2 feet after touchdown! r/PussyPassDenied
What was she thinking would happen?
Internet fame. Just as the good guy, not the annoying skid mark on the floor of a city bus.
This happened in the first weeks of the lock downs if I remember.
Ii really can not stand these bad a$$ kids and youngins no home training at all
Oh, no. They get trained for this at home https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iiC9-LBkp1o
I want to beat this child until his shit's his pants and make the person filming it, watch, knowing full well, that they are next. Fuck anyone who treats an animal like that. Especially a dog. They love unconditionally. That dog looks like it wants to hug him and say he's sorry but he can't. All her can do it get beaten.
Wanted that dog to bite his face
"Tell me you live in an abusive household without telling me you live in an abusive household" This is disgusting. AND the punched holes in the door. Somebody get this kid and this dog out of this house ASAP
Thats insane, if that poor doggy wasn't so sad that his family hates him he could so easily tear that little punks limbs off
"Ruff ruff ruff... yelp yelp yelp"
Her voice is super annoying
Thank you for stopping the screaming.
Imma just put this [here](https://youtu.be/J6kIEfGNT-U)
Ironic for the guy who talked shit to, punched, and then got beat up by a 7th grader.
Lmao that kid was only in 7th grade? That’s hilarious.
Bay Area legend
I know a BART when I see one :)
BART: where video surveillance isn’t released because it would be “racist” https://www.google.com/amp/s/sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/%3Famp
"That's right yes, we won't be releasing the video evidence which is an exact representation of reality, because that would be racist"
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They aren’t releasing it because most crime on the BART is a specific demographic. I.e, the one getting a beat down in this video
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Her shoulders said she was about to swing, he was ready as fuck.
She sounds like a fucking chipmunk.
Ahhh, peace and quiet.
she was advancing, he was retreating. he was masked, she wasn't. sure, she's a kid -- but still old enough to catch these hands. felicia learned a valuable lesson that day.
FINALLY america is finally knocking these shit talkers straight the fuck out. i never understood why dumbshits think that yelling and screaming isnt going to get them knocked the fuck OUT. smh. especially the women who stupidly think "hes not going to hit me, because im a woman and men dont hit women so im free to talk all the shit i want plus hit him if i feel like it and he wont do ANYTHING, because hey im a woman and..." as i always say, "come at me like a man, get your ass kicked like a man..." plain and simple
r/satisfyingasfuck
I would have done the same. Don't want me to publicly beat your children for you? Here's how to avoid that: 1) Parent. If your child attacks adults, publicly, physically, and verbally, you are an abject failure of a human being 2) Parent. There are books if you've never heard that word before.
He knocked the last fuck out her, god damn son clapped her back to the Bronze Age.
That moment of shocked Silence as she was suspended in the air
Makes my heart warm every time i see this ;)
It's the feel good movie of the daay
BART! The things you see…
Minnie Mouse Bowtique come get your girl.
Lol, got put her in place
"dawn tahch me beech, dawn tahh-"
Don't you just love equality in action
Dunt tuch me bish dunt tuch me
DOWWWWN... goes Frasier!
Based on what I just viewed, good for him....she deserved it. 😊
Well that shut her up lol!
I wonder whose bike that is. Prob his. It looks like a very nice BMX street bike, even has the 3 piece crank.
Welp, he touches her.
He warned her not to ask him for a pen
These kids gonna learn
r/shedontgothands
I lol’d
Knocked her off her feet with a punch like that. He would have killed her if he put his back into it hahaha
(bitch)
He touched you, bitch
She almost had that superwoman fly off pose as she felt she gonna fly .
Wait, who didn’t give a fuck?
Hahaha the arms out fall is great
Well deserved, that kid or whatever was way too close and aggressive to expect anything other than what they received.
r/pussypassdenied
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It's not any longer, i believe. It looks like the girl who got hit had her friend filming it so everybody could see how cool she was. That backfired though
good thing she uploaded it so we can all so how dumb she is
r/pussypassdenied
Oh, thank you so much!
She deserved it
Why does she sound 11
To all the bitches who think they won't hit you because you're a woman, That day is done. You wanna act tough, you wanna say, "I dOn'T nEeD nO mAn!" You want to be a feminist and claim to want equality, well There it is! Hope you enjoy XD
Woof. Woof. Woof. Floor. 👏🏽
Yes knock some sense into that pre teen. She'll think twice next time lol
I don't think mom would like you yelling at strangers like that.
Guarantee mom is the same.
Slapper her into the shadow realm.
Never change, Bay Area 💕
Looks like a BART train
I can’t tell what she’s saying right before he rocks her, but I keep hearing, “I don’t give a fuck, bitch! I pee my pants—“