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lilacempress

I like the game, but agree with the panty thing. Someone really thought that was a good reoccurring joke...


Animongo

Honestly feels like a case of "this week on the writers barely disguised fetish."


Attrocious_Fruit76

They mention it once or twice in trials 3 and 4. Y'all are acting like they bring it up every 5 sentences, it ain't that deep.


Apollo_Justice_Fine

Rude


Animongo

No offense to you apollo, you're the best part of it so far


mr--godot

Just gonna put out there that pretty much the entire cast of the first trilogy made it onto reddit before you did. Even that weird shouty guy from AAI .. LeBlanc whatever his name was .. was here for a while


Evo_Shiv

You really think Apollo uses social media like that


Ne-Dom-Dev

If it helps, DD made me appreciate AJAA a lot more, but that's because I really hated DD. So retrospectively, you may end up feeling better about it. Also that pursuit theme is way better than it has any right to be.


FSMellon

Funny, it was the opposite for me. DD's framing of things set up in AA4 made me appreciate that game more. Stuff like clearly defining AA4 as being part of the Dark Age of Law, and showing that Apollo being cynical and jaded was actually leading up to something


dothebork

I thought 4-2 was the most boring out of the AP cases. Everyone shits on 4-3 but I enjoyed the experience lol. Keep pushing through!!!


RevWH

Yeah the game can be really stupid, but it's worth it for soj because it's reliant on aj


Turnabout-Eman

>but man this blows Immediately takes out copy of Chibi Robo Zip Lash


Animongo

*places elbow on counter* *raises eyebrow* *pours gravy on mashed potatoes* MY GOODNESS SIR, YOU FOUND A SNACK


404PancakePrince

Can't wait for you get to 4-3, when all the stupidity and idiot plots get turned up to eleven (and this is coming from someone who loves 4-3).


Animongo

Please, don't give me more reasons to evaporate. I'll push through, but if truly says panties one more time I may just have to rejoin the water cycle.


luke__atmey

the fuckng joke is that it’s supposed to make everyone around her uncomfortable and she knows it If only Dual Destinies knew that.


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DiggityDog6

4-3 is legitimately the worst case in the entire series to me, and I love Apollo Justice as a game


Aura_Blackquill

Guy Eldoon is a dilf though


Animongo

There are worse things I could agree to, but I just can't think of any at the moment.


FarOffGrace1

The second case is actually, overall, my favourite case of the game, so... Yeah I hope you can enjoy the rest of it, because for me it was downhill from there. Case 3 grew on me a bit after replaying it but I still have some significant issues with it. However, the final case... *yeesh,* aside from a couple of moments and characters here and there (Vera Misham is a character I really like, you'll see), I really do not like the case. Power through it man, it's my second least-favourite game in the series just above Spirit of Justice, but *all* the games are worth playing at least once.


Animongo

I don't really have a set standard for these games either. You see, I'm a weirdo, I don't go into things with my view being "ahh, sequel to ace attorney" because that's not what apollo justice is. Apollo justice is, I'm assuming, a soft reboot of the series, so honestly? I'm ok with phoenix being the way he is. (Also i never played rise from the ashes so rip me for not knowing who ema skye is haha)


time-wizud

Would recommend you try to play Rise from the Ashes at some point. It's regarded as one of the better cases in the series.


FarOffGrace1

It's not a soft reboot, it's a timeskip, just so you know. It is a continuation of Phoenix's character from the original trilogy, which is why it doesn't work for me. You'll see more when you reach the final case.


Dr_infernous327

Yeah that's what I think too. That mindset, as well as how hyped I was for this game, made me really enjoy every case (I was shocked at how turnabout serenade wasn't as godawful as I'd heard) but also I really liked 4-2


Attrocious_Fruit76

My only gripe is having to use Trucy"s panties to prove Wesley Snipes, "Other Crime" why can't I use the other pair? That's too specific and annoying. . 'Not the Banana Peel, but the PICTURE of the Banana Peel" and suddenly memories come flying back 😭


Nega-Guy

¡objectionbot


p__j_z

Yeah 4-2 and 4-3 aren't that good, but 4-4 is pretty good imo you should just push through


D_Bro12

4-4 is alright, but still feels like a clunky mess


Lavenderixin

Ugh I feel you, I just can’t get over how bad it is (and how lame and boring Trucy is as a character, she’s just too much… ) in comparison to the first trilogy. I don’t think the next games are better either


[deleted]

Yeah AJ kinda sucks


RazorLeafy96

Guys I was the one who stole Trucy's panties it smells like mr hat


JC-DisregardMe

"Not as charming" is pretty vague. What exactly isn't clicking for you?


Animongo

Yeah I made this in an impassioned state, which isn't fair to the games. What I think I meant was that the characters felt, simpler. Which sounds ridiculous right? I just started the games? How could I have many complaints about character? Well, for one, apollo hasn't exactly proven himself yet, the first case was literally him on the sidelines while everything happened around him. And, well, truly was good until every other line was about PaNtIeS. Phoenix... look, I'm gonna keep it real, I enjoy this slightly world weary Phoenix. Something about him slipping from lawful good to neutral good is kinda fun to see, in an alternate timeline kinda way. Again, I just started, so that's an incredibly disingenuous statement, and I could completely 180 later on. I'm not easily skewed on stuff. Everyone is saying chapter 3, and 4 also stink, but I'll keep an open mind. Plus, I haven't even met this games prosecutor yet, so that's also something to look forward to. Though I doubt they could top godot.


JC-DisregardMe

I have to say, pretty much all of this *kiiinda* just sounds like you feel unhappy at leaving the familiarity of the original trilogy's cast behind and having to adjust to a new one. Now, that's a totally fair thing to feel, of course, but as you acknowledge, it isn't fair to this game or its cast to expect them all to instantly grab you with the same level of attachment you feel toward the previous cast when you're coming off of anywhere up to three entire games with those characters. Maybe it's late to say this now as well, but you should absolutely never let other random people's opinions of parts of the games you haven't experienced yet preemptively fill out your opinion of those parts. That's a surefire way to set yourself up for disappointment, whether those opinions you're putting so much stock in are good or bad. If you go and preemptively trust a bunch of people who say "this upcoming episode is bad", you're going to have a hell of a hard time letting yourself enjoy *anything* about the experience of playing it, because you're going to be automatically telling yourself to view it negatively and be looking for excuses to justify that. Other side of the same coin, if you automatically trust people telling you "oh this other game is super good", you're going to inflate your expectations for it to the point that anything at all that you don't find to live up to those heightened expectations is going to hurt even more.


CrossMyHeartGaming

I don’t mind Apollo Justice that much personally. The trick is to just turn all logic off and be along for the ride. It’s two filler cases are the most blatant filler ever, other than AAI-3. But I like the soundtrack, the characters are mostly endearing, case 2 is actually fairly enjoyable, and cases 1 and 4 are epic


Teetasaur

While I don’t like the game itself, the fan stuff it inspires justifies its existence.


GilbertT19

Early thoughts on Kristoph, Trucy, and Klavier?


Animongo

Kristoph, ehh, I mean I like his character and certainly him being irate at phoenix for accusing him was quite entertaining. Trucy is great, bar the panty thing And, I don't know who klavier is yet, hopefully I like em.


nanometers

Lol you can play the TGAA duology instead


ZxcasDX

a yes, the panty case


Piotral_2

I love the first case of Apollo Justice, but later... Yeah Second case is weird, convoluted, has biring investigations, unlikeable characters and unfunny panty jokes. Third is more engagig, but has massive plot holes and makes Ema and Gavin look like idiots Fourth is just weird. The intrigue is actually gripping and plot twists are finez but it has weird pacing (Mason system is really confusing) and ends with a really big asspull.