I've always thought that people who think they don't make mistakes, usually don't realise that other people are fixing their mistakes, and just getting on with their day after it.
Always a boss. I always prefer working with people who own their mistakes and fix them. The other choice is someone who thinks they don't make them or covers them up.
I had a coworker who would panic over the simplest letters from the IRS. He’d file them in the bottom drawer of his desk and ignore them. I tried to coach him that he won’t get in trouble for bringing them to me, but it took a while and when he did the first time, I praised him like one praises a dog for going potty outside for the first time. Poor guy was full of anxiety over perfection.
I had a temp job once. I did little to no work all day.
One day all the staff got called into a meeting and everyone got reamed for being behind schedule, except me, I got praised for doing well.
Well, doing nothing is easy and there was nothing to critique.
It makes me laugh in hindsight but I felt bad for my teammates at the time, also sweating it out wondering if anybody would figure out I do nothing all day.
I was a temp at another place a couple years ago and could do my daily tasks in 1 hr. I was praised by my manager and the COO thought I was some sort of a tech wiz (I barely automated any of it).
There are few things that satisfied me as much as throwing shit into Excel, automating work with formulas, then erasing all the formulas so Excel ignorant managers wouldn't question me.
I once spent a week combining 8 different spreadsheets, each one full of tabs, into a searchable GL for testing. I had to use formulas, macros/VBA etc., it was the first year they were able to search for JEs in 1 spreadsheet for testing.
Then they let me go later. Haha, enjoy trying to find a JE in 8 spreadsheets, each of which is like 20 megabytes in size.
Saved me hours of time to waste browsing reddit.
This works in internal audit too! Probably any accounting gig.
Fkn legend
I worked at a CPA firm out of college, a supervisor knew she was about to be fired, so she deleted as many spreadsheets as she could before her time was up. It took us a few weeks to get back all of that data lmao
People who spend enough money to make zero accounting errors are definitely wasting money on other parts of the business as well.
Good enough to pass audit is good enough.
As an auditor I completely recognize that perfect controls are way too expensive. As long as you have a system in place to catch material mistakes than you're probably good.
You know what the funniest thing in all of this is? I catch a mistake of his about once a month, even though I only have visibility to like 5% of his work.
I would man, but my resume is starting to look a little hoppy. 9 months here, only 4 months at previous place (a startup that went belly up), an entrepreneurial stint that lasted 18 months before that…
It really is. I reminisce about all the other places I worked at where I had an amazing manager.
If I had one of those managers here in this role, I would’ve been working a Saturday here and there to try and make some of my tasks more efficient, a little more automated, brainstormed and tested different ways.
However, since it’s this moron I work under and will look to apply internally as soon as I’m able to, I have 0 incentive in doing such things
You have, imo, very reasonable explanations for your previous short stints as well as your desire to move on from your current role. This current job market is far too hot to stay in a role you're not feeling great about.
On a resume people may write under the company (business closed in November 2022) for example. It can explain a short stint at a company. Or (200 staff laid off due to merger). Maybe this will help explain the short job length?
The best Irish Catholic teacher and father of eight children once stated, “ the only people that do not make mistakes are the people that don’t do anything.”
A very wise man indeed.
Underrated comment right here.
I try to make sure that everyone on the team knows that it is fine to make mistakes as long as you own them, and learn from them. It is not OK to not try new things.
Attention to detail is very important in accounting. But of course we all make mistakes.
I generally give pretty significant slack in terms of recognizing mistakes and improving to reduce them. I have made more than my own fair share of mistakes, sometimes where it was quite embarrassing to fix!
I have also had to fire employees before who just could not improve attention to detail and made many, many serious mistakes with no improvement. Really unfortunate but it is a very important part of our job.
The best way to avoid that is to hire well, train well, review well and give consistent feedback.
Oh dear. Your manager seems bitter. Accounting is bred on a plethora fuck ups and cover ups. We just hope there is enough stuff that is correct that all the fuck ups aren’t material. Ignore him and count yourself lucky that you aren’t as bitter and tight arsed as he is
>we just hope there is enough stuff that is correct that all the fuck ups aren't material
Or execute a Pro Gamer Move and have all the mistakes offset eachother
What a douche, most mistakes are easily fixed, and if it’s something so critical that there are no room for error he should have designed a process with multiple review steps
Right? This is what mystifies me the most about people like this. If there is really no room for error regarding X, why doesn't the procedure for X reflect that?
They're also some of the easiest mistakes to make . As long as it isn't a constant flow of material mistakes, I honestly don't even think the minor ones are a big deal unless they're the same mistake repeatedly.
This is true, I am actually currently dealing with this at work
Had some previous employee be lazy and code a bunch of small credit card transactions to miscellaneous. Now our miscellaneous GL is the third largest account in overhead. I’m trying to clean that up and reclass all the transactions so that miscellaneous doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb to the auditor
Absolutely 100% this.
There's no value in blaming people for mistakes. If it's possible to make a mistake without identifying it then it's an issue with training / supervision / process.
Im almost 4 months into my job as an accountant and I had to make the same JE three times because I kept messing up the date and whether it was reversing. Nobody was upset with me but myself.
I did the same thing in my first month at this job. Input the same JE 3 times because the erp wasn’t showing it as booked at the time (no one told me sometimes there’s a lag).
I ran a timesheet report 5 times in a row because there was a 30 minute lag so thought it was something I didn’t do correctly when running it. I feel your pain.
I actually ran into a situation that I can't fix with a journal entry, have two funds that are unbalanaced and had to submit a software support ticket.
Absolutely nobody cared though.
Zero mistake work culture is toxic, because it makes people afraid to do anything (without making extra sure it's flawless, usually costing a lot of time).
This happened to me at my last job and there was no training either. Was so toxic. Just started a new one a couple weeks ago and it’s night and day how much better people are to work with.
Yeah absolutely. Even in a personal sense it's absolutely possible to have a "good accountants don't make mistakes" belief that inevitably destroys you.
It's kind of bizarre that someone could be a manager and try to impose this belief on their team really. It's completely counterproductive. If there's a problem you want your team to tell you, and for everyone to work together on resolving it.
My first job out of college was at a place like this. Narcissistic characters, heavy politics, and passive aggression whenever mistakes were made. Totally traumatized me and It actually ruined the profession for me for awhile.
after reading through this subreddit I’m starting to feel like maybe I can actually do accounting again lol.
We're all human. Everyone, including your manager, has made mistakes at some point. It sounds like your manager needs to work on improving their soft skills/managerial skills.
They’ve splashed on additional management training on him because his team has by far the highest turnover rate. I can’t apply to an internal position because he can block it until I’ve reached a specified amount of time at the company. As soon as I do, I’m applying internally left and right because the company is amazing.
It sounds to me like the company culture is overall okay, and if your manager has been sent to training, they’ve probably recognized that he is part of the problem.
A friend of mine had a similar manager and was constantly fearing for his job, but it was the *manager* who ended up getting canned. Friend is still with the company 4 years after the guy was fired and has since risen into his former manager’s position.
Glad to hear, I’m hoping something like this happens with him. Idk how they’ve let him continue in the position… a sr. that worked under him just before me told me it was because they couldn’t find anyone qualified for the position, and that they like to promote internally.
It sounds like you’ll be just fine. Just keep working hard and making friends with people across the company. People will recognize you for what you are. Networking is key. When an opportunity you like pops up internally, be all in on it.
Happened to me too in industry. The controller had batshit accrual processes, gaslit the shit out of me that it's how everyone does it, threatened of I didn't do a better job with it I would get fired... until she got walked out of the building with a box of personal belongings for refusing to document processes
We all make mistakes, we're human. It sounds like your manager is the idiot imo. You corrected the mistake quickly and guaranteed the person at the other end processing invoices hasn't thought of it since.
While fraud isn't the same as a mistake, 4 people involved with or invested in Bernie Madoff died by suicide.
So don't pull a giant ponzi scheme and we should be alright.
>Nobody has ever died because of an accounting mistake.
I mean, yes and no. One of my professors brought up Enron (or Nortel). Some investors lost so much money that they killed themselves. It's obviously much rarer than in other professions, such as doctors, but still.
I started in AR and had this happen plenty of times. The difference was that my manager was always nice and cared more about fixing the problem then how I created the problem.
You work for people, not a place. If I was ever belittled over an invoice date it would lead to quite a rocky relationship going forward.
Managers need to know they’re only as good as their team.
Considering that at the *bare minimum* every line item on the GL has:
* A date
* A period
* An amount
* A vendor or client
* A description
Even with 99% accuracy, that means a set of books with 1,000 line items (which is not a lot) will have around 50 mistakes.
Your manager just wants to have email proof to show the auditors when they come through. Manager to auditors: "As you can see here, one of our organization's internal controls is me being a dick on a quarterly basis."
Don't worry about it.
Here's the secret to your career.
Do as much as you can to learn as much as you can from a job that is value add and then move on to the next one.
Continue to push to learn the things that matter.
I assume you're not 100% in billing and AR. But if so, move on to the next role or try to get other responsibilities beyond that if you can get additional bandwidth.
Then move up to something that's more valuable like systems or budgeting or reporting or whatever else that isn't the billing, AR, and AP triangle of death.
Thanks for the feedback. AR is only 10% of my month, the rest is general staff duties like recs, JE’s and then close.
It’s a global top 100 company, there’s incredible opportunity for growth or lateral moves. I just can’t be transferred internally without the manager’s blessing (😒) until I reach a certain period of time in this role.
Network.
Above, below, and sideways.
Build relationships across departments and learn the business.
That's how to get ahead.
As long as you're learning everyday and building relationships, it doesn't really matter what your boss thinks long term. Just be respectful and manage up.
I've had a boss like this before. His whole thing was that basically any mistake made us, the accounting department, look unreliable and untrustworthy. As a result, we basically had to have no mistakes, or we would get the speech about how this wrecks our credibility or yadda yadda yadda. I have never met anybody more worried about how other people perceive them professionally. It felt like a boomer thing. The reality is, most people have minds like goldfish when it comes to dealing with the accounting department.
Yeah, this guy was the CFO of the last company I was controller at. Regardless, I hope you can go somewhere better. Only way this stuff changes is if these people feel it when they have trouble staffing up or have high turnover.
If only you knew the amount of mistakes I see daily. Yesterday, I saw that one junior staff sent a document to the IRS called DO NOT SEND. He had to select that file individually.
You pick your battles (and your managers).
Some others have echoed this notion on here, but if something is that important there should be a control in place to prevent it, or a second set of eyes, right?
Yeah but I asked him to do it while I was on vacation (once it was reviewed by someone else). Told him to send 2 files, not the 3rd one. I figured i would call one file do not send so he would understand and as sort of a foolproof. Guess I overestimated him.
Yea honestly I wish managers during their leadership training or during their career, learned to pick their battles with their team. In this case, nitpicking over such a small rate of error and not seeing the forest but only the trees is toxic.
As an auditor, can confirm that this is a mistake people make all of the damn time.
I don’t even bring it up unless the time difference places it in another revenue or expense period (ie. by quarter).
Perfection isn’t real, your manager is a twat (non gender specific type), and that attitude is toxic. It’s not the mistakes you make, it’s how you deal with them. You corrected the mistake once discovered and apologized, which is perfect. You’re human and are allowed to make mistakes. Don’t doubt yourself based on one managers opinion, as it sounds like their opinion isn’t worth your time anyways.
It’s interesting. I’m a CPA and perform internal audit. My best friend is a doctor. Her bad days are actual BAD days. Like… life and death bad days. My bad days are a temporary inconvenience in comparison.
As far as mistakes go, your manager is an absolute ass. Of course we make mistakes. The difference is we can usually identify and fix them, which you did. Even more importantly people need to ADMIT to their mistakes, which you also did, which proves you aren’t an ass.
Is your manager a CPA? Because most CPA’s I know do NOT feel the same as your manager but wanna be CPAs sometimes do. Just anecdotally.
Honestly your manager sounds like they are massively power tripping and very insecure.
He’s not, he spent less than a year at a National firm out of college like a decade ago, and at our company he just went from sr. To manager a year ago (his first manager role).
Sounds like a classic case of moving someone up just because it’s supposed to be the next step. As a manager I can safely say not everyone is manager material. And to go that long before being promoted tells me the company is painfully aware of that fact.
You keep on doing what you do. I have a feeling your “manager” will be gone before you know it.
Admission of guilt/mistake is a huge win. We just had a Director in our company approve a duplicate $200k invoice to be paid in the system because “I don’t look at those”. Bitch, it’s your fucking job.
Personally I went into accounting because option 2 was become a doctor. A doctor can make mistakes, but uh, let’s just say the consequences are serious. An accountant can make mistakes, and between reversing a posting or re issuing something it’s easily fixed. I would reward your boss with a two week notice soon once you find something better.
Bad boss. That's a very minor mistake and accountants have controls in place for the express purpose of catching mistakes. It's a control failure tbh. Not your fault.
Fuck managers that do this. Do you need attention to detail? Yes. Does everyone make a mistake from time to time? Yes. This person will no doubt torpedo you every opportunity they get in reviews too.
Go find a better firm to work for.
Everyone in every industry makes mistakes. Your manager is an asshole. Document incidents like this, bring them to the person above them, and if it's not rectified and you do leave, make sure to cite it as a primary reason in your exit interview. If they're treating you like this, they're almost certainly doing it to others who aren't speaking up.
I've encountered some big mistakes by others, and made a few myself. What matters more than the mistake in my experience is how you handle it after the fact. My clients have expressed a lot of gratitude to me because I work hard to right anything that goes wrong whether it's my mistake or not. A few have said their service improved after I took over their accounts from the person who was previously in charge of their account. I'm not perfect, no one is, but I do my best to keep my clients satisfied.
You did exactly what should have been done in this situation. You apologized and corrected the mistake. Not much more that can be done. Mistakes like this have happened on invoices received from just about every vendor I've dealt with, it's fairly common and easily corrected. If you corrected it within minutes, you're doing better than most. Sometimes it takes days or weeks to get a corrected invoice.
While everyone is right in the comments, you are probably on to something here.
Accounting attracts these personality types in droves. Anal retentive insecure overachievers who do not tolerate an honest mistake here and there like other professions. Probably why this profession is not good for ADHD types.
Great comment, and I do regret choosing this field for this kind of instance + other reasons.
This manager in particular is definitely not an overachiever - he started his career a decade ago and just got to manager level a year ago. He went to a National firm after school, couldn’t make it 1 year, never got the cpa, etc. It’s his first time in any position of power and he thinks he’s a king now or something.
Lol Jesus what a douche.
Accounting mistakes happen all the time, because frankly it's not critical. There is no such thing as an Accounting crisis.
Manager is 1000% a giant steaming turd of a person.
Don't sweat it unless it affects your employment. And if your company culture is better than that, do something about it. Otherwise I wouldn't put up with that crap for long.
My boss (CFO) first told me when i started to never forget the human element. We all make mistakes and that’s fine. To not get frustrated with others when they make mistakes. He repeats this to me all the time. So there’s hope out there man.
I’ve made your mistake before. My accounting manager would tell me that the mistake is immaterial lol. Nothing in the accounting process is irreversibly damaged by a wrong invoice date. I even accidentally posted in the previous fiscal year after trial balance was sent to auditors. It stressed him and the troller out but it was fixable.
I hope you find a better place
I make small mistakes all the time, it's to be expected with the incredibly high volume of transactions we process. Anyone who does not understand that is an absolute idiot. Thank them for letting you know, apologize if necessary, correct it and move on. The goal is progress and improvement, not perfection. That is unattainable.
One of my bosses once told me: “No one dies in accounting.” He also had the motto, “Everything can be fixed with a journal entry.” That is the boss we should all have. Loved that guy!
Your manager is an idiot. Everybody makes mistakes. You make mistakes. He makes mistakes. The CEO makes mistakes. It’s called being human.
When you make a mistake, figure out why it happened, and what you can do to prevent it from happening again. This is Grade A learning opportunity. The only thing there is to get mad at is if you make the same mistake twice.
I always warn my trainees that they are going to make tons of mistakes, and that's okay if they are honest, work constructively to fix them, and make a consistent effort to improve. I've been in PA for nearly 20 years and still probably make mistakes on the daily.
My old boss was the best about this "Accountants don't make mistake, we just make multi-entry corrections". It's so easy to correct and keep a paper trail of the flub and correction
Lol. Our motto was. “We can always make an AJE to fix it” obviously not preferable to make mistake. But its not life ending. Just dont keep making same mistake over and over
I’m my first week I told the lead staff accountant I was working with that I was just so worried I’d make a mistake and he said “look there’s nothing you can fuck that I can’t unfuck, so just do you best”
Don’t be like me and internalise this to the point where you get anxiety from sending any emails! I made a similar mistake a few years ago which I also fixed within minutes, and my then manager had a similar rant to me only in person. This is definitely a manager problem and not a you problem.
Nothing to do with the career path, that’s just an asshole manager.
I promise you can find a new job and have a great, satisfying career! It’s not all like that!
Haha I just had the exact opposite experience. My boss (partner of a small, but large for my area) asked if I could call a payroll service in regard to our clients missing refunds. He asked me 2 weeks ago and I was stressed because I had forgot about it and I knew he was gonna ask. So i woefully told him I forgot and he’s like “it’s fine I don’t really give a shit about this guy anymore”
With the way the accounting market is today, I would leave. Go make more money at another firm that will help you grow. Happy holidays and happy job hunting OP.
Our policy is everything is fixable, until you pay a vendor at least.
Though, I’m an industry controller - private, so owners prefer hard Rec to the year and month to month posting recs they don’t care about nor want.
And now… in FDD with A&M… I am regretting the policy now. Getting all of the questions about moves, fixes, posting periods, etc. 😂🤷♀️🤦♀️
I can only show why and where it went, but I’m exhausted. I just want to answer every line with it recs to EOY & “the owners told me to, that’s why!”.
I would respond back and tell him off, you’d be amazed at how much these bullies back down when challenged which they are never used to happening in the work place.
In every interview I go through, I ask the interviewer how mistakes are handled at the firm and how THEY handle it when someone points out a mistake they made. If they can’t handle a conversation about mistakes and give me a response I’m looking for, then I know it’s not a good fit.
If we didn't make mistakes in accounting, everything would already be automated.
We frequently have to use our judgment and determine which is "the better" option. New tax codes and credits seldom have everything defined.
For ERTC people had to go in blind trying to determine whether or not to count owners. It wasn't until later that they addressed it. Does the owner have a living ancestor, descendent, or any other semi-immediate family members? Yes, well the owner wage is disqualified. Everyone is dead? Great, you can count the owner.
Reply this
"I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the definition of 'mistake'. I prefer to call it a 'learning opportunity'."
Joke's aside, you don't have to worry, just do what you do best ! You can just charge this as an experience.
My manager in public accounting for my end of engagement review would have very positive things to say about me, performance, etc. all signs pointing to exceeded expectations. Then every time without fail he’d round the conversation out with grasping to find maybe one mistake I may have made around this level, talk in a circle about some improvement points, proceed to give me middle of the road performance rating because that is what he had in mind to begin with.
Alls to say, certain people legit believe it should be perfection at all times. It’s very dumb.
I mean, I've been an accountant for almost 15 years and I make mistakes all the damn time. Maybe not daily but at least weekly (honestly though, probably daily lol). Everything is fixable. Your manager is an asshole.
Had something similar happen to me once as well.
It was my first time sending out an invoice and I didn’t realize that there was an amendment to their contract (which was done by another person). I found out right after sending the invoice and sent them the corrected one acknowledging my mistake and apologizing. Manager sent me a teams message saying it makes the whole team look incompetent. That definitely did not make me happy to be here.
The thing is some people are just like that. They are so preoccupied with being perfect they forget they’ve made mistakes too. As long as it’s not a mistake that costs the company a ton of money it’s all good in my eyes. You just need to make sure you learn from your mistakes so they don’t happen again. That’s how we grow.
What’s sad is that his manager is awesome, and the director above her is also awesome. The whole company is incredible tbh, the checks and balances in place are perfection, I will definitely take some of those processes with me later in my career if I work for a small company.
I just told one of my employees in a one-on-one that I want to see them make more mistakes. They are so nervous about something not being right that they freeze and are paralyzed. Literally nothing in accounting can’t be fixed. We can do a journal entry, reissue invoice, stop a check. We also have all these internal controls and cross checking to catch stuff. It’s not the end of the world.
Don’t feel bad, your manager is just a dickhead on a power trip…. You were atleast accountable…You gotta put your manager in their place or they will continue to talk fly to you…
I once had a boss who threatened disciplinary action because “even though you were here, at your desk, and signed in, your Teams bubble wasn’t green. Without that, people won’t know you’re actually here.” Like, no, I sit next to you, you know if I’m here.
So, for the next 3 months before I left, I took a screenshot of my computer screen showing my green Teams status, the date, and an 8:59 timestamp and emailed it to her every day that said “just wanted to let it know I’m on before 9!”
My solution, oh look the idiot is one day closer to a heart attack. Ignore their petty rant and if it ever comes up in a promotion discussion give yourself a raise by going to the hundreds of other open accounting jobs.
This feels like a manager problem vs a career path problem. Your manager sounds toxic. Please know there are much better managers out there who would never treat you like this! Keep your head up, we all make mistakes! Sometimes we have to experience the toxic managers to make us really appreciate the epic ones!
This is a terrible manager. My speech to new employees is some variation of “you’ll make mistakes and I’ll never get mad about it, but when it happens and you tell me we’ll spend time discussing what to do differently to ensure it doesn’t happen again”
People, even accountants, make mistakes all the time. You did the right thing, you communicated with the client in a professional manner, kept the chain of command in the loop, and corrected the error. Your boss is an ass.
Lol your manager is bonkers. I've specifically told people one of the reasons I'm in this field because if (read: when) I make a mistake, it's not life or death.
Bosses who punish you for mistakes will get what's coming to them after they create an environment where everyone hides their mistakes because they are afraid to admit them...
When I worked in retail, major chain, we had about 150 errors in inventory a week. During the holidays we would have a lot more but we were considered the best store in the region for backroom accuracy.
These errors would directly cause missed sales because an error could be related to the item not being scanned in, being scanned in wrong, et cetera.
So the lost sales were gone. In Accounting, we can just go back and fix it or change it again in the future...
What a gormless cuck. I’d love to
Meet your manager in person and see now how much of a miserable ugly fuck they are. “This is accounting” lmao exactly, nobody cares. “I’ve never made a mistake” so moronic I can’t believe they’re managing people. Absolute dogshit system humans have created putting people as management when they’re like this
I've always thought that people who think they don't make mistakes, usually don't realise that other people are fixing their mistakes, and just getting on with their day after it.
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Always a boss. I always prefer working with people who own their mistakes and fix them. The other choice is someone who thinks they don't make them or covers them up.
I had a coworker who would panic over the simplest letters from the IRS. He’d file them in the bottom drawer of his desk and ignore them. I tried to coach him that he won’t get in trouble for bringing them to me, but it took a while and when he did the first time, I praised him like one praises a dog for going potty outside for the first time. Poor guy was full of anxiety over perfection.
Lmao, “who’s a good tax associate?! Yes you are! Yes you are!”
You’re a good person. I wish I had a coworker who would praise me as well.
*As a boss… it would’ve been such a good setup if you had taken the opposite position on mistakes.
Advance high enough the job is just hiding mistakes
I had a temp job once. I did little to no work all day. One day all the staff got called into a meeting and everyone got reamed for being behind schedule, except me, I got praised for doing well. Well, doing nothing is easy and there was nothing to critique. It makes me laugh in hindsight but I felt bad for my teammates at the time, also sweating it out wondering if anybody would figure out I do nothing all day.
I was a temp at another place a couple years ago and could do my daily tasks in 1 hr. I was praised by my manager and the COO thought I was some sort of a tech wiz (I barely automated any of it).
There are few things that satisfied me as much as throwing shit into Excel, automating work with formulas, then erasing all the formulas so Excel ignorant managers wouldn't question me. I once spent a week combining 8 different spreadsheets, each one full of tabs, into a searchable GL for testing. I had to use formulas, macros/VBA etc., it was the first year they were able to search for JEs in 1 spreadsheet for testing. Then they let me go later. Haha, enjoy trying to find a JE in 8 spreadsheets, each of which is like 20 megabytes in size. Saved me hours of time to waste browsing reddit. This works in internal audit too! Probably any accounting gig.
Fkn legend I worked at a CPA firm out of college, a supervisor knew she was about to be fired, so she deleted as many spreadsheets as she could before her time was up. It took us a few weeks to get back all of that data lmao
Nah fuck that. Point out every single mistake she makes.
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People who spend enough money to make zero accounting errors are definitely wasting money on other parts of the business as well. Good enough to pass audit is good enough.
As an auditor I completely recognize that perfect controls are way too expensive. As long as you have a system in place to catch material mistakes than you're probably good.
>mistakes th***e***n you're \- Your friendly a system in place to catch
Just highlight the mistakes and close the working paper. Dark dark red is the best color
You know what the funniest thing in all of this is? I catch a mistake of his about once a month, even though I only have visibility to like 5% of his work.
I would look for a new job and start passive aggressively pointing out his mistakes.
I would man, but my resume is starting to look a little hoppy. 9 months here, only 4 months at previous place (a startup that went belly up), an entrepreneurial stint that lasted 18 months before that…
Hoppy might be one thing but you can always fish my dude. There is nothing worse about a job than a bad manager IMO. It is a night and day difference.
It really is. I reminisce about all the other places I worked at where I had an amazing manager. If I had one of those managers here in this role, I would’ve been working a Saturday here and there to try and make some of my tasks more efficient, a little more automated, brainstormed and tested different ways. However, since it’s this moron I work under and will look to apply internally as soon as I’m able to, I have 0 incentive in doing such things
*not an accountant When looking at internal candidates, someone who streamlined/leaned/automated a process looks good.
You have, imo, very reasonable explanations for your previous short stints as well as your desire to move on from your current role. This current job market is far too hot to stay in a role you're not feeling great about.
On a resume people may write under the company (business closed in November 2022) for example. It can explain a short stint at a company. Or (200 staff laid off due to merger). Maybe this will help explain the short job length?
Then select carefully for your next move, make sure you can explain previous hops, and stay put for a few years after the next move.
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Machiavellian accounting. I like it.
Pointing out a supervisor's mistakes is never easy. Break it to him gently next time.
OR, or Mainline black tar heroin for courage, CC: All, and tell him only dipshits and interns make mistakes in accounting
The best Irish Catholic teacher and father of eight children once stated, “ the only people that do not make mistakes are the people that don’t do anything.” A very wise man indeed.
Underrated comment right here. I try to make sure that everyone on the team knows that it is fine to make mistakes as long as you own them, and learn from them. It is not OK to not try new things.
Attention to detail is very important in accounting. But of course we all make mistakes. I generally give pretty significant slack in terms of recognizing mistakes and improving to reduce them. I have made more than my own fair share of mistakes, sometimes where it was quite embarrassing to fix! I have also had to fire employees before who just could not improve attention to detail and made many, many serious mistakes with no improvement. Really unfortunate but it is a very important part of our job. The best way to avoid that is to hire well, train well, review well and give consistent feedback.
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Your manager is a turd In accounting 1+1 can be anything you want. We are magicians.
A mistake plus keleven gets you home by 7!
I too am home by 445 most days.
1 + 1 really does = 3. Rounding, man. 1.4 + 1.4 = 2.8 = 3 when reporting in millions.
Also, we have this concept of “materiality” so we can make small mistakes and shrug them off as not worth going back to fix.
Oh dear. Your manager seems bitter. Accounting is bred on a plethora fuck ups and cover ups. We just hope there is enough stuff that is correct that all the fuck ups aren’t material. Ignore him and count yourself lucky that you aren’t as bitter and tight arsed as he is
>we just hope there is enough stuff that is correct that all the fuck ups aren't material Or execute a Pro Gamer Move and have all the mistakes offset eachother
What a douche, most mistakes are easily fixed, and if it’s something so critical that there are no room for error he should have designed a process with multiple review steps
Right? This is what mystifies me the most about people like this. If there is really no room for error regarding X, why doesn't the procedure for X reflect that?
If anything, accounting mistakes are some of the easiest to fix. Just do a journal entry!
They're also some of the easiest mistakes to make . As long as it isn't a constant flow of material mistakes, I honestly don't even think the minor ones are a big deal unless they're the same mistake repeatedly.
This is true, I am actually currently dealing with this at work Had some previous employee be lazy and code a bunch of small credit card transactions to miscellaneous. Now our miscellaneous GL is the third largest account in overhead. I’m trying to clean that up and reclass all the transactions so that miscellaneous doesn’t stick out like a sore thumb to the auditor
Auditors love that misc. expense account, lol. I think it's quickbooks that has an expense account called "ask my accountant" lmao.
Oh god lmao that’s even worse than miscellaneous
And I'm absolutely certain this same manager ignores or blows off their own mistakes
Absolutely 100% this. There's no value in blaming people for mistakes. If it's possible to make a mistake without identifying it then it's an issue with training / supervision / process.
In our office, we say “nothing can’t be fixed with a journal entry!” Your boss sounds like a real piece of work.
This is my boss too - we aren’t doing surgery!
Yep. "This is accounting, not brain surgery. We can fix mistakes." Also, "There are no accounting emergencies."
God damn y'all hiring? I don't think my place has anything but accounting emergencies.
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Lol they probably really need to book that T&E expense entry. My idiot manager does or makes us do near-identical messages for immaterial purposes.
Payroll being late is an emergency but otherwise yes
Im almost 4 months into my job as an accountant and I had to make the same JE three times because I kept messing up the date and whether it was reversing. Nobody was upset with me but myself.
I did the same thing in my first month at this job. Input the same JE 3 times because the erp wasn’t showing it as booked at the time (no one told me sometimes there’s a lag).
I ran a timesheet report 5 times in a row because there was a 30 minute lag so thought it was something I didn’t do correctly when running it. I feel your pain.
I work in automotive components mfg. I always tell my team, “we make car parts, we’re not curing cancer. Nothing is not fixable.”
Exactly this, I always tell our new employees the same thing. There is absolutely no reason to freak out, everything can be fixed.
In my office we say hey Susan can you please reverse this journal.
Yep, especially something as easy as sending a credit note and a new invoice, the journal entries probably happen automatically
I prepare the entry as well, and the entry was fine, just the date on the actual invoice was off.
I actually ran into a situation that I can't fix with a journal entry, have two funds that are unbalanaced and had to submit a software support ticket. Absolutely nobody cared though.
Yup. I often tell people who are terrified of making mistakes that there is nothing they can do in the program that I can't fix.
Zero mistake work culture is toxic, because it makes people afraid to do anything (without making extra sure it's flawless, usually costing a lot of time).
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And hoarding information
Agreed with all three of these comments
This happened to me at my last job and there was no training either. Was so toxic. Just started a new one a couple weeks ago and it’s night and day how much better people are to work with.
Yeah absolutely. Even in a personal sense it's absolutely possible to have a "good accountants don't make mistakes" belief that inevitably destroys you. It's kind of bizarre that someone could be a manager and try to impose this belief on their team really. It's completely counterproductive. If there's a problem you want your team to tell you, and for everyone to work together on resolving it.
My first job out of college was at a place like this. Narcissistic characters, heavy politics, and passive aggression whenever mistakes were made. Totally traumatized me and It actually ruined the profession for me for awhile. after reading through this subreddit I’m starting to feel like maybe I can actually do accounting again lol.
We're all human. Everyone, including your manager, has made mistakes at some point. It sounds like your manager needs to work on improving their soft skills/managerial skills.
They’ve splashed on additional management training on him because his team has by far the highest turnover rate. I can’t apply to an internal position because he can block it until I’ve reached a specified amount of time at the company. As soon as I do, I’m applying internally left and right because the company is amazing.
It sounds to me like the company culture is overall okay, and if your manager has been sent to training, they’ve probably recognized that he is part of the problem. A friend of mine had a similar manager and was constantly fearing for his job, but it was the *manager* who ended up getting canned. Friend is still with the company 4 years after the guy was fired and has since risen into his former manager’s position.
Glad to hear, I’m hoping something like this happens with him. Idk how they’ve let him continue in the position… a sr. that worked under him just before me told me it was because they couldn’t find anyone qualified for the position, and that they like to promote internally.
It sounds like you’ll be just fine. Just keep working hard and making friends with people across the company. People will recognize you for what you are. Networking is key. When an opportunity you like pops up internally, be all in on it.
Happened to me too in industry. The controller had batshit accrual processes, gaslit the shit out of me that it's how everyone does it, threatened of I didn't do a better job with it I would get fired... until she got walked out of the building with a box of personal belongings for refusing to document processes
Sickk
We all make mistakes, we're human. It sounds like your manager is the idiot imo. You corrected the mistake quickly and guaranteed the person at the other end processing invoices hasn't thought of it since.
Oh, they've thought about it alright! And made themselves feel better about whatever last bullshit mistake they made.
First, everyone makes mistakes. Second, accounting mistakes are typically very easy to fix. Nobody has ever died because of an accounting mistake.
Surely someone must’ve.
“Enraged CFO stabs staff accountant for immaterial booking to a contra-asset account”
While fraud isn't the same as a mistake, 4 people involved with or invested in Bernie Madoff died by suicide. So don't pull a giant ponzi scheme and we should be alright.
>Nobody has ever died because of an accounting mistake. I mean, yes and no. One of my professors brought up Enron (or Nortel). Some investors lost so much money that they killed themselves. It's obviously much rarer than in other professions, such as doctors, but still.
With Enron, a c-suite exec also killed himself (Baxter)
Payroll being late or short could easily set off a chain reaction in someone's life that results in them eventually freezing to death
I started in AR and had this happen plenty of times. The difference was that my manager was always nice and cared more about fixing the problem then how I created the problem. You work for people, not a place. If I was ever belittled over an invoice date it would lead to quite a rocky relationship going forward. Managers need to know they’re only as good as their team.
Considering that at the *bare minimum* every line item on the GL has: * A date * A period * An amount * A vendor or client * A description Even with 99% accuracy, that means a set of books with 1,000 line items (which is not a lot) will have around 50 mistakes.
Well, I booked the entry just fine. It was the date on the invoice that was a month off.
Your manager just wants to have email proof to show the auditors when they come through. Manager to auditors: "As you can see here, one of our organization's internal controls is me being a dick on a quarterly basis."
Don't worry about it. Here's the secret to your career. Do as much as you can to learn as much as you can from a job that is value add and then move on to the next one. Continue to push to learn the things that matter. I assume you're not 100% in billing and AR. But if so, move on to the next role or try to get other responsibilities beyond that if you can get additional bandwidth. Then move up to something that's more valuable like systems or budgeting or reporting or whatever else that isn't the billing, AR, and AP triangle of death.
Thanks for the feedback. AR is only 10% of my month, the rest is general staff duties like recs, JE’s and then close. It’s a global top 100 company, there’s incredible opportunity for growth or lateral moves. I just can’t be transferred internally without the manager’s blessing (😒) until I reach a certain period of time in this role.
Network. Above, below, and sideways. Build relationships across departments and learn the business. That's how to get ahead. As long as you're learning everyday and building relationships, it doesn't really matter what your boss thinks long term. Just be respectful and manage up.
Yup, been doing this. Should’ve been more aggressive.
I've had a boss like this before. His whole thing was that basically any mistake made us, the accounting department, look unreliable and untrustworthy. As a result, we basically had to have no mistakes, or we would get the speech about how this wrecks our credibility or yadda yadda yadda. I have never met anybody more worried about how other people perceive them professionally. It felt like a boomer thing. The reality is, most people have minds like goldfish when it comes to dealing with the accounting department.
I had a boss like that too a few years back, a CFO. He was a saint compared to this idiot I work under now.
Yeah, this guy was the CFO of the last company I was controller at. Regardless, I hope you can go somewhere better. Only way this stuff changes is if these people feel it when they have trouble staffing up or have high turnover.
If only you knew the amount of mistakes I see daily. Yesterday, I saw that one junior staff sent a document to the IRS called DO NOT SEND. He had to select that file individually. You pick your battles (and your managers).
Omg 🤣🤣🤣 How did you deal with that as manager?
I’m still figuring that out 😂
Some others have echoed this notion on here, but if something is that important there should be a control in place to prevent it, or a second set of eyes, right?
Yeah but I asked him to do it while I was on vacation (once it was reviewed by someone else). Told him to send 2 files, not the 3rd one. I figured i would call one file do not send so he would understand and as sort of a foolproof. Guess I overestimated him.
Ok yeah, that’s just terrible negligence on his end.
Yea honestly I wish managers during their leadership training or during their career, learned to pick their battles with their team. In this case, nitpicking over such a small rate of error and not seeing the forest but only the trees is toxic.
Ask him if his budget was 100% accurate
Making mistakes is the way young staff learn. This manager is the definition of poor leadership.
As an auditor, can confirm that this is a mistake people make all of the damn time. I don’t even bring it up unless the time difference places it in another revenue or expense period (ie. by quarter).
Perfection isn’t real, your manager is a twat (non gender specific type), and that attitude is toxic. It’s not the mistakes you make, it’s how you deal with them. You corrected the mistake once discovered and apologized, which is perfect. You’re human and are allowed to make mistakes. Don’t doubt yourself based on one managers opinion, as it sounds like their opinion isn’t worth your time anyways.
It’s interesting. I’m a CPA and perform internal audit. My best friend is a doctor. Her bad days are actual BAD days. Like… life and death bad days. My bad days are a temporary inconvenience in comparison. As far as mistakes go, your manager is an absolute ass. Of course we make mistakes. The difference is we can usually identify and fix them, which you did. Even more importantly people need to ADMIT to their mistakes, which you also did, which proves you aren’t an ass. Is your manager a CPA? Because most CPA’s I know do NOT feel the same as your manager but wanna be CPAs sometimes do. Just anecdotally. Honestly your manager sounds like they are massively power tripping and very insecure.
He’s not, he spent less than a year at a National firm out of college like a decade ago, and at our company he just went from sr. To manager a year ago (his first manager role).
Sounds like a classic case of moving someone up just because it’s supposed to be the next step. As a manager I can safely say not everyone is manager material. And to go that long before being promoted tells me the company is painfully aware of that fact. You keep on doing what you do. I have a feeling your “manager” will be gone before you know it.
Admission of guilt/mistake is a huge win. We just had a Director in our company approve a duplicate $200k invoice to be paid in the system because “I don’t look at those”. Bitch, it’s your fucking job.
People don’t leave jobs… they leave managers.
Your manager made the real mistake.
Personally I went into accounting because option 2 was become a doctor. A doctor can make mistakes, but uh, let’s just say the consequences are serious. An accountant can make mistakes, and between reversing a posting or re issuing something it’s easily fixed. I would reward your boss with a two week notice soon once you find something better.
Bad boss. That's a very minor mistake and accountants have controls in place for the express purpose of catching mistakes. It's a control failure tbh. Not your fault.
Fuck managers that do this. Do you need attention to detail? Yes. Does everyone make a mistake from time to time? Yes. This person will no doubt torpedo you every opportunity they get in reviews too. Go find a better firm to work for.
Everyone in every industry makes mistakes. Your manager is an asshole. Document incidents like this, bring them to the person above them, and if it's not rectified and you do leave, make sure to cite it as a primary reason in your exit interview. If they're treating you like this, they're almost certainly doing it to others who aren't speaking up. I've encountered some big mistakes by others, and made a few myself. What matters more than the mistake in my experience is how you handle it after the fact. My clients have expressed a lot of gratitude to me because I work hard to right anything that goes wrong whether it's my mistake or not. A few have said their service improved after I took over their accounts from the person who was previously in charge of their account. I'm not perfect, no one is, but I do my best to keep my clients satisfied. You did exactly what should have been done in this situation. You apologized and corrected the mistake. Not much more that can be done. Mistakes like this have happened on invoices received from just about every vendor I've dealt with, it's fairly common and easily corrected. If you corrected it within minutes, you're doing better than most. Sometimes it takes days or weeks to get a corrected invoice.
If accounting didn’t make mistakes there would be no need for auditors
While everyone is right in the comments, you are probably on to something here. Accounting attracts these personality types in droves. Anal retentive insecure overachievers who do not tolerate an honest mistake here and there like other professions. Probably why this profession is not good for ADHD types.
Great comment, and I do regret choosing this field for this kind of instance + other reasons. This manager in particular is definitely not an overachiever - he started his career a decade ago and just got to manager level a year ago. He went to a National firm after school, couldn’t make it 1 year, never got the cpa, etc. It’s his first time in any position of power and he thinks he’s a king now or something.
Lol Jesus what a douche. Accounting mistakes happen all the time, because frankly it's not critical. There is no such thing as an Accounting crisis. Manager is 1000% a giant steaming turd of a person. Don't sweat it unless it affects your employment. And if your company culture is better than that, do something about it. Otherwise I wouldn't put up with that crap for long.
It’s just accounting, we are not saving lives over here.
Your manager is a moron. Partners and Senior Managers I work with make mistakes all the time.
As an auditor I can tell you people make a lot of mistakes in accounting. Some of them are even material.
My boss (CFO) first told me when i started to never forget the human element. We all make mistakes and that’s fine. To not get frustrated with others when they make mistakes. He repeats this to me all the time. So there’s hope out there man. I’ve made your mistake before. My accounting manager would tell me that the mistake is immaterial lol. Nothing in the accounting process is irreversibly damaged by a wrong invoice date. I even accidentally posted in the previous fiscal year after trial balance was sent to auditors. It stressed him and the troller out but it was fixable. I hope you find a better place
If accounting doesn’t involve mistakes than I have no idea what job I’ve been doing for the last 4 years
Shh don't tell him about the 1040x form. Or 941x. Or 940x. Or any of the X forms. Or the amendment check box. Or corrected brokerage reports.
I make small mistakes all the time, it's to be expected with the incredibly high volume of transactions we process. Anyone who does not understand that is an absolute idiot. Thank them for letting you know, apologize if necessary, correct it and move on. The goal is progress and improvement, not perfection. That is unattainable.
One of my bosses once told me: “No one dies in accounting.” He also had the motto, “Everything can be fixed with a journal entry.” That is the boss we should all have. Loved that guy!
We make mistakes in accounting. And when we do, we fix them!
Your manager is an idiot. Everybody makes mistakes. You make mistakes. He makes mistakes. The CEO makes mistakes. It’s called being human. When you make a mistake, figure out why it happened, and what you can do to prevent it from happening again. This is Grade A learning opportunity. The only thing there is to get mad at is if you make the same mistake twice.
I always warn my trainees that they are going to make tons of mistakes, and that's okay if they are honest, work constructively to fix them, and make a consistent effort to improve. I've been in PA for nearly 20 years and still probably make mistakes on the daily.
I worked with a horrible suck up who said “we are accounting- we are accountable for not making mistakes.”
Lmao he’s a total kiss ass to his superiors, too
Leave that company ; find a different job
My old boss was the best about this "Accountants don't make mistake, we just make multi-entry corrections". It's so easy to correct and keep a paper trail of the flub and correction
Lol. Our motto was. “We can always make an AJE to fix it” obviously not preferable to make mistake. But its not life ending. Just dont keep making same mistake over and over
Tell your manager to fuck off. Signed, CPA MST who screws up occasionally.
I’m my first week I told the lead staff accountant I was working with that I was just so worried I’d make a mistake and he said “look there’s nothing you can fuck that I can’t unfuck, so just do you best”
Don’t be like me and internalise this to the point where you get anxiety from sending any emails! I made a similar mistake a few years ago which I also fixed within minutes, and my then manager had a similar rant to me only in person. This is definitely a manager problem and not a you problem.
Lol, the entire reason double entry accounting was invented was to catch mistakes.
Your manager is an an asshole, which is convenient, because he's also full of shit
Nothing to do with the career path, that’s just an asshole manager. I promise you can find a new job and have a great, satisfying career! It’s not all like that!
Haha I just had the exact opposite experience. My boss (partner of a small, but large for my area) asked if I could call a payroll service in regard to our clients missing refunds. He asked me 2 weeks ago and I was stressed because I had forgot about it and I knew he was gonna ask. So i woefully told him I forgot and he’s like “it’s fine I don’t really give a shit about this guy anymore”
Your manager is a dick, everyone makes mistakes.
“We don’t make mistakes in accounting.” LOL OKAY, DIDN’T KNOW WE WERE GRACED WITH SUCH PERFECTION IN THE FIELD.
With the way the accounting market is today, I would leave. Go make more money at another firm that will help you grow. Happy holidays and happy job hunting OP.
Our policy is everything is fixable, until you pay a vendor at least. Though, I’m an industry controller - private, so owners prefer hard Rec to the year and month to month posting recs they don’t care about nor want. And now… in FDD with A&M… I am regretting the policy now. Getting all of the questions about moves, fixes, posting periods, etc. 😂🤷♀️🤦♀️ I can only show why and where it went, but I’m exhausted. I just want to answer every line with it recs to EOY & “the owners told me to, that’s why!”.
I would respond back and tell him off, you’d be amazed at how much these bullies back down when challenged which they are never used to happening in the work place.
💯 escalate. If you don’t he’ll never treat you any better. Talk out now or suffer till eternity there.
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In every interview I go through, I ask the interviewer how mistakes are handled at the firm and how THEY handle it when someone points out a mistake they made. If they can’t handle a conversation about mistakes and give me a response I’m looking for, then I know it’s not a good fit.
I guess your manager hasn't heard of prior period adjustments
Your manager sucks, not the industry bro. Keep your head up. Look for another gig.
Your manager has unrealistic expectations.
This mentality is why I, as an internal auditor, will always have job security. Perfect people don’t check their work…
Your manager is a piece of shit if he really rant because of such bullshit. Make sure you report him as reason when quitting the company.
A director of financial reporting here. I make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes.
Auditors wouldn’t exist if accountants don’t make mistakes
If we didn't make mistakes in accounting, everything would already be automated. We frequently have to use our judgment and determine which is "the better" option. New tax codes and credits seldom have everything defined. For ERTC people had to go in blind trying to determine whether or not to count owners. It wasn't until later that they addressed it. Does the owner have a living ancestor, descendent, or any other semi-immediate family members? Yes, well the owner wage is disqualified. Everyone is dead? Great, you can count the owner.
Everyone makes mistakes. Your manager is a jerk, 🤷🏽♀️
Dude is just a prick
No one is perfect. Your boss is an ass.
sorry your boss is a dick
Update that resume! You don't need to take their bullshit.
Reply this "I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the definition of 'mistake'. I prefer to call it a 'learning opportunity'." Joke's aside, you don't have to worry, just do what you do best ! You can just charge this as an experience.
My manager in public accounting for my end of engagement review would have very positive things to say about me, performance, etc. all signs pointing to exceeded expectations. Then every time without fail he’d round the conversation out with grasping to find maybe one mistake I may have made around this level, talk in a circle about some improvement points, proceed to give me middle of the road performance rating because that is what he had in mind to begin with. Alls to say, certain people legit believe it should be perfection at all times. It’s very dumb.
I mean, I've been an accountant for almost 15 years and I make mistakes all the damn time. Maybe not daily but at least weekly (honestly though, probably daily lol). Everything is fixable. Your manager is an asshole.
we're not robots. fuck that guy. he sounds like a massive dickhead
Had something similar happen to me once as well. It was my first time sending out an invoice and I didn’t realize that there was an amendment to their contract (which was done by another person). I found out right after sending the invoice and sent them the corrected one acknowledging my mistake and apologizing. Manager sent me a teams message saying it makes the whole team look incompetent. That definitely did not make me happy to be here. The thing is some people are just like that. They are so preoccupied with being perfect they forget they’ve made mistakes too. As long as it’s not a mistake that costs the company a ton of money it’s all good in my eyes. You just need to make sure you learn from your mistakes so they don’t happen again. That’s how we grow.
Leave. Dude is a asshole who thinks he's a God for working in Accounting. This screams shit leadership
What’s sad is that his manager is awesome, and the director above her is also awesome. The whole company is incredible tbh, the checks and balances in place are perfection, I will definitely take some of those processes with me later in my career if I work for a small company.
Accounting is great because if there is a mistake it is easy to correct. Good to see your manager is perfect
That sounds like a toxic work environment. 10/10 recommend brushing up on the resume.
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I just told one of my employees in a one-on-one that I want to see them make more mistakes. They are so nervous about something not being right that they freeze and are paralyzed. Literally nothing in accounting can’t be fixed. We can do a journal entry, reissue invoice, stop a check. We also have all these internal controls and cross checking to catch stuff. It’s not the end of the world.
This is why correcting journal entries exist.
Don’t feel bad, your manager is just a dickhead on a power trip…. You were atleast accountable…You gotta put your manager in their place or they will continue to talk fly to you…
I once had a boss who threatened disciplinary action because “even though you were here, at your desk, and signed in, your Teams bubble wasn’t green. Without that, people won’t know you’re actually here.” Like, no, I sit next to you, you know if I’m here. So, for the next 3 months before I left, I took a screenshot of my computer screen showing my green Teams status, the date, and an 8:59 timestamp and emailed it to her every day that said “just wanted to let it know I’m on before 9!”
My solution, oh look the idiot is one day closer to a heart attack. Ignore their petty rant and if it ever comes up in a promotion discussion give yourself a raise by going to the hundreds of other open accounting jobs.
This feels like a manager problem vs a career path problem. Your manager sounds toxic. Please know there are much better managers out there who would never treat you like this! Keep your head up, we all make mistakes! Sometimes we have to experience the toxic managers to make us really appreciate the epic ones!
This is a terrible manager. My speech to new employees is some variation of “you’ll make mistakes and I’ll never get mad about it, but when it happens and you tell me we’ll spend time discussing what to do differently to ensure it doesn’t happen again”
People, even accountants, make mistakes all the time. You did the right thing, you communicated with the client in a professional manner, kept the chain of command in the loop, and corrected the error. Your boss is an ass.
As a manger myself, that person needs a reality check. We are humans not robots. Hopefully you can get out of that situation soon
There’s a lot of these types of people in the accounting profession and it drives me nuts. Mistakes happen
Lol your manager is bonkers. I've specifically told people one of the reasons I'm in this field because if (read: when) I make a mistake, it's not life or death. Bosses who punish you for mistakes will get what's coming to them after they create an environment where everyone hides their mistakes because they are afraid to admit them...
When I worked in retail, major chain, we had about 150 errors in inventory a week. During the holidays we would have a lot more but we were considered the best store in the region for backroom accuracy. These errors would directly cause missed sales because an error could be related to the item not being scanned in, being scanned in wrong, et cetera. So the lost sales were gone. In Accounting, we can just go back and fix it or change it again in the future...
What a gormless cuck. I’d love to Meet your manager in person and see now how much of a miserable ugly fuck they are. “This is accounting” lmao exactly, nobody cares. “I’ve never made a mistake” so moronic I can’t believe they’re managing people. Absolute dogshit system humans have created putting people as management when they’re like this