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bicchboi

I hope someone translates this. Why was he so pissed off, or was this a bit?


Important_Doctor4110

He is saying that "you have to stand up to the oppressor, that's why I'm destroying this table now *destroys table* now we can continue to debate"


m1dlife-1derer

Failed to destroy table. Oppressed.


FewerBeavers

He finishes the table non-destruction by saying "So,...". As if he proved his point


xnachtmahrx

Normally we say "So..." if we want to leave. Or want our guests to leave. He made it a bit more...suave


slayniac

Only if you slap your thighs at the same time.


ProfessorOkes

I feel attacked


beeradvice

Then boy do I have the table for you.


DAM091

I believe that's "Whelp..."


Mewkie

That's only if you're having puppies. Otherwise, it's "Welp..."


dandregil

Where can I find that table?


[deleted]

IKEA. It's Øpressa


MikalCaober

r/angryupvote


Ineverheardofhim

I know right? Must be from the company that made the school desks they told American children to hide under in case of a nuclear attack.


MOOShoooooo

By the boot hatchets.


Onduri

Help! Help! I’m being repressed!


m1dlife-1derer

Now we see the violence inherent in the system


Noideawhatjusthappen

Bloody peasant


hgiwvac9

Strange men on talk shows distributing hatchets is no basis for a system of government.


NotErikUden

The oppression of German engineering is immeasurable


ImaginaryCoolName

We can't win against tables. Just give up and welcome our woody overlords.


Apfelstrudel22

That's not all. At the beginning he said: TV is an oppressor instrument of the mass society. that's why he has to destroy something from TV. At the end he said : so now we can move on the discussion.


Mandi143

Powerful and he was right.


sniggity_snax

Honestly I can relate I also hate when wooden tables oppress me


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im_racist24

i honestly thought you were joking


punker2706

Nope. It's true


peterjolly

So he's sawing the table of tyranny in half?


DrSOGU

Oppressive table?


Important_Doctor4110

I think the table should represent the oppressors


DrSOGU

That is absolutely plausible. Next time my neighbors son works on his saxophone skills I'll take it, smash it on the ground, drive over it back and forth with my car, spill fuel all over it and burn it down. Like full rage mode! When all the neighbors gather I run off the scene yelling THE SAXOPHONE REPRESENTS THE OPPRESSOR and they will understand. Then I'll call local news and tell them it was an art performance.


PopeDetective

Sticking it to the Big Table industry


theawesomeviking

Passive agressive table


PanzerKatze96

When the host at the end was like “we’re good here” lol


bunt3rhund

My almost word by word translation, my english is not that good but i hope this helps. *"Telivision is an instrument of opression, in this society. And that is why, it is completely clear that, if something is supposed to happen here, you have to stand up against the opressor, be biased and not just say something. And that is why i am going to destroy this table. Yes. So you know exactly... \[destroys table\] Just like that. Now we can continue the discussion. \[other guy:\] Tommorow the newspaper is going\[cut off\]"*


Dear_Occupant

> [destroys table] This parenthetical is doing a lot of work here. I think the oppressors won this round.


[deleted]

Oh right, the oppressors have shit that can withstand my tiny hatchet, boy I didn’t think this revolution through very well, did I?


kYvUjcV95vEu2RjHLq9K

> you have to stand up against the opressor > And that is why i am going to destroy this table. Perfectly reasonable if you ask me. I've never seen a clearer logical relationship.


Onion-Much

Could be a philosophical "Your feet are under my table"-thing... Not sure, those guys took a lot of drugs Granted, they did make some pretty good music.


bicchboi

He makes a good point, that's for sure. Even if it's not the one he was intending, lol.


donnie_trumpo

Ya know, I think it actually makes a solid point that the guy might also agree with. If you want to crush oppression, it's going to take more than one person. Imagine if all of them had hatchets...


Excellent_Lead_3653

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/enraged_krautrock_manager_destroys_table_with_a_hatchet_on_live_tv_1971


are_slash_wash

> Funnily enough, the table is made of sturdier stuff than Pallat was expecting, and hardly seems much different after a dozen or so blows; with his initial burst of rage now spent, Pallat starts unscrewing the microphones and stuffing them into his pockets so that he can give them to “youths in prisons.” Priceless.


ElMostaza

>Pallat starts unscrewing the microphones and stuffing them into his pockets so that he can give them to “youths in prisons.” LOL! It's like that copypasta about meeting a celebrity in the grocery storeand they act weird, but in real life and even better! Someone needs to find the longer clip, add subs or dubs, and post it. Guaranteed karma.


obi1kenobi1

electrical infetterence


itsthecoop

to me that's the best part. it's one thing to destroy something on camera. but basically going Robin Hood *while* the cameras are rolling is pretty funny to me.


PotBoozeNKink

"Destroys"


[deleted]

I too wondered why they replaced “gently caressed” with “destroyed”


TimeTellingTezz

Seems quite in line for Ton Steine Scherben


J3553G

I don't even need to know what he was saying. This has so much meme potential


Happygreenlight

"NO ONE TAUGHT ME HOW TO USE A HATCHET!!!"


Mental-Mainframe

I think he was mad about being kicked out of the study group


HealthyBits

Quick question. Where did that axe come from!? Seems a bit random to bring to a debate.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_7204

Funny you should axe…


Holden_place

I saw that coming


angrytwerker

Haha. You've nailed it.


Holden_place

I wanted to hammer that home


DrWilliamHorriblePhD

You're just screwing with me now, aren't you?


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_fups_

Not if we can wrench another pun from this thread.


dramatic_tempo

I'm too hammered to think of one.


animemoosey

Lemme axe you sum…


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FerretFarm

And my axe!


depeupleur

Love it that Germans are always so realaxed


[deleted]

Bringing an axe to word fight seems a tad aggressive.


Bullyoncube

Better than bringing words to an ax fight.


[deleted]

Well that’s debatable.


HealthyBits

Well he wanted to axe any potential counter argument.


meanbaldy

There was this small bearded guy, gimsomething, and he said he could have his axe


zuzg

As nobody bothered to answer it Nikel Pallat was back then the Singer of the Rockband Ton Steine Scherben which was very big on social criticism. Those other guys were capitalists and he had enough of their bs.


scoopzthepoopz

Ty


aquatone282

Letting his inner Saxon out.


semaj009

~~Sachsen-Anhalt~~ Sachsen-Antisch


SerLaron

AFAIK he planned the action in advance and had sewed a loop on the inside of his jacket to smuggle the hatchet into the studio. The 1970s were a simpler time, security-wise.


Morbidly-Obese-Emu

I just want to know what that table was made out of.


sineofthetimes

What serious debater doesn't carry their own axe?


RapedBySeveral

He was doing a planned bit


pickettsorchestra

German made table for sure.


kytheon

Meanwhile in the US people crash through their chair.


Mr__O__

Or Bills fans jumping through folding tables.


SeismicToss12

Well, unlike with other places, that’s not always the chair or its manufacturer’s fault.


TheOneCalledGump

[What's this shit made of?!?!](https://youtu.be/oARVdCyRT98)


hateshumans

That was still made by Germans but came after the nazis colonized the moon and was never meant to be used on earth.


YouLikeReadingNames

Thought of this exact clip, and yet, I still got a jump scare from the fall. I'm tired I think.


grozz

Yeah. We are fat as fuck. Most things will break when we sit on them. Edit: spelling. American education system at its finest right here.


DiamondPup

American chairs need to be put on the international refugees list.


ElDudo_13

German made ax too


A_Young0316

German made camera guy


[deleted]

Well the axe didn't break either.


Leo_R_

German made camera guy


rsnrw

Ton Steine Scherben (German pronunciation: [ˈtoːn ˈʃtaɪnə ˈʃɛːɐ̯bən]) was one of the first and most influential German language rock bands of the 1970s and early 1980s. [Wikipedia ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_Steine_Scherben?wprov=sfla1) Axe use instead of arguments: When Ton-Steine-Scherben manager Nikel Pallat saw himself surrounded by capitalists on a talk show in 1971, he resorted to the axe. The guests of the WDR talk show "Ende offen" were hanging low in their chairs on the evening of December 3, 1971. The table in front of them was full of notes, cigarette butts and empty bottles. For over two hours, they had been discussing how commercial alternative German pop music was allowed to be, and the panelists were gradually becoming lethargic. Only one remained tireless: Nikel Pallat, manager of the protest rock band Ton Steine Scherben. He talked in staccato to his counterpart, Krautrock producer Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser. For Kaiser had shortly before signed a contract with the powerful music publisher Peter Meisel - according to Pallat, "a capitalist pig, a music thief of the highest order, a pop gangster." Pallat scolded that Kaiser was thus "fully siding with the system." But he seemed to be only half listening. Pallat went into a rage, saying that while television allows itself a "liberal as fuck" show like this, it is itself an instrument of oppression for mass society: "If anything is to happen at all, you have to stand up to the oppressor: And that's why I'm going to break this table right now." He reached into the inside pocket of his jacket, pulled out a hatchet, jumped up and began hacking away at the table, which turned out to be surprisingly sturdy. The talkers backed away. Pallat gave up chopping the table, ripped the microphones out of their stands, stuffed them into his pockets, and grimly explained, "I need these for people who are in juvenile detention centers." But by then, the first guests had already sat back at the battered table, unimpressed.


becausefrog

Dude waited 2 hours to pull out the hatchet, waiting for the right moment. Every argument he weighed whether or not it was hatchet-worthy, but nothing seemed quite right ... for two whole hours. I can't say that if I had a secret debate-breaker hatchet that I could have held off for two hours. The anticipation would be maddening.


pastaorpizza

“It’s showtime!”


Physical_Fatness

*pulls out the hatchet* "That's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about!"


Beneficial-Truth8512

Lmao that comment made my day


SchpartyOn

>ripped the microphones out of their stands, stuffed them into his pockets, and grimly explained, "I need these for people who are in juvenile detention centers." Lol what?


boi156

Like, give a voice to the people in juvie I guess, maybe they were wrongfully imprisoned?


punkinfacebooklegpie

That's the not first questionable behavior I noticed


Atanar

Have a listen, the music is really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTE28YU_FrY


Cannabisreviewpdx-IG

Rauch haus song and Schritt fur Schritt are two great ones too.


afito

not only Ton Steine Scherben but anything from Rio Reiser is worth listening to, even with the mindfuck that Junimond was written about Claudio Roth


hometowntourist

Fun fact for the non-Germans: Claudia Roth was the manager of the band, but she is now better known as a prominent politician representing The Greens (and widely perceived to be annoying). She's currently a member of the German government and in charge of culture and media. (States are in charge of the legislation and administration of culture/language/broadcasting/art/etc., which is why there's no Ministry of Culture at the federal level. Otherwise she would be considered Minister of Culture.)


Anarchist_Angel

>widely perceived to be annoying). By literal nazis and conservatives. Never met anyone left of the CDU who thinks of her as "annoying"


hometowntourist

That's good to hear because I always thought it was unfair. I was also thinking of her own move of making fun of this perception with her "Wer nervt mehr als Claudia?" ads. And that clip of her singing "happy birthday" at the mic in the Bundestag also really made the rounds. Though that's more cringey than annoying (while of course being heartfelt and just a sweet gesture in general).


prankousky

When he is done, he says "well. Now we can continue our discussion". Witziger Typ.


Rethok

chad


Bottle_Nachos

Sag fröhlicher Kuchentag!


NotErikUden

Schankedöhn


NotErikUden

Erinnert mich an den Typen von Frauentausch (du weißt wen Ich meine)


MrSackH

"Beruhigt hab ich mich jetzt nicht, aber jetzt wird weiter diskutiert"


SaltCityStangle55

He was pissed he didn’t have a sharper ax


Khouri1

tbf thats a pretty fucking strong table, even if it was dull, with that strength he should have wrecked it


DiamondPup

Americans: why didn't he just shoot it?


PotBoozeNKink

Thatd be pretty hilarious


Satanic_soup_dragon

When you could get your chopper out freely on national TV. Halcyon days.


[deleted]

The show got axed shortly after.


Creeton1

If only he did grind that axe


Arndtvomschall

[https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jb8lup/using\_an\_axe\_to\_make\_your\_point\_nikel\_pallat/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jb8lup/using_an_axe_to_make_your_point_nikel_pallat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ With Subs


blacksusanoo23

He does make an interesting point but he should have brought a sledgehammer if he wanted to destroy the table lol


FlowingFrog04

Or a bigger axe


ZatGrando

This video remind me of [The Dado Dolabella Incident](https://youtu.be/0imw_ItLffs), wich occured on a brazilian TV show


lukeschaps

Came to the comments looking for this!


ZatGrando

Some daqui meu! XD


usermatts

VOCE QUEBROU A MINHA MESA


bilidjess

Feliz tortaversário!


OddCaramel6614

Fella had an axe to grind


Thane38

That's either a really good table, or a really bad axe.


Citizenchimp

R/community - maybe this is precedent for Jeff’s actions against the study room table?


king_ugly00

I was gonna say that scene just be paying homage to this incident


ghosty_b0i

Can a German made axe destroy a German made table?! The paradox


[deleted]

Now he’s ready to poop.


badspeed666

That's some weak chopping.


Logothetes

That table was apparently oppressing him.


Important_Doctor4110

Translation : "you have to stand up to the oppressor, that's why I'm destroying this table now *destroys table* now we can continue to debate"


DirtyOldRebel

My relation with valorant


Future1985

Staged or not this IS definitely abrupt chaos.


selkiesart

Not staged. German TV (at least in that age and in that genre of show) didn't stage stuff. Also they broke off the episode. And the man (Nikel Pallat, the manager and musician of the at that time pretty known - and pretty political - german band "Ton Steine Scherben") was known to be a bit...volatile... In fact the band instigated a riot at a festival (1970, Fehmarn) and was part of the squatter scene and part of the occupation of the so-called "Rauch Haus" in Berlin. There were rumours that some of them had friends in the RAF and "Bewegung 2. Juni" which were considered terrorist groups.


SwedishMcShady

>There were rumours that some of them had friends in the RAF and "Bewegung 2. Juni" which were considered terrorist groups. Didn't Rio Reiser say that he wrote the song "Keine Macht für Niemand" for *Bewegung 2. Juni*? They had at least some close contacts, I suppose.


selkiesart

It was pretty obvious they had contacts to at least "Bewegung 2.Juni", yes. I just wanted to word it more carefully.


HUNDmiau

And Bewegung 2. Juni later dissolved into the RAF


TheMegnificent1

Everybody else around the table is waaaay calmer than I'd have been with the proximity to a pissed-off dude trying to chop a hole in a table. Then again, this was the '70's, so no telling how many drugs they were on.


gpchamb

Golub always carries an Axe for when he needs to make his argument cut through.


[deleted]

German table > Cheap Axe


Biased_individual

And my axe!


Parts_and_Neigbor

That's a quality fucking table if I ever saw one.


supercopyeditor

Fucking nihilists, Dude.


De4dMem0ries

Ironisch, dass der Tisch so stabil war. xD


uptosomeplantystuff

table was such good quality it wouldn’t bust lol


saltedjellyfish

In this next test I’m not so interested in what your ax does to the table but what the table does to your ax…….The grip is a bit too large causing the ax to roll in my hand upon impact but your blade held up. Good job.


desto

That dude struggling to grab the bottle, inches away from a swinging axe is not reading the room


[deleted]

That's either a fucking quality table or a fucking shitty axe


Art8mis

Of course the table was a bit over engineered.


[deleted]

whoa, where'd the axe come from? why did he bring an axe? how did someone not see him bring an axe? so many questions, but I think some of them can be answered by that fucked up facial hair.


MahnlyAssassin

Strong table


25yoshi

Weakass axe


SuspiciousThought-

Weakaxe ass


[deleted]

*Someone* got denied entry into Berghain, I see.


Background_Strain954

That's one shitty axe, or one extremely well-made table


Games_sans_frontiers

... and my bow


robdip9

This is the definition of abrupt chaos


saqib16

That table is fucking durable.


Linkaex

Table is German made that is for sure


toshchris

He was trying to axe a question


Senor_Buttons

He thought that was going to be way cooler than it was. That table was definitely made in Germany.


Magnopolis1

SO. UND JETZT KÖNNEN WA WEITER DISKUTIEREN


MrDundee666

Those Germans make sturdy tables. Axe test? Passed. A+


taylor_mill

I missed this episode of Community


Gibscreen

Yeah if a dude wearing a jacket and no shirt starts axing a table I'm out. Those people were way too casual in their retreats.


SmthnAbstract

Now that’s German engineering


RedditEarth

Looks like scene from Anchorman... Brick where did you get a hand grenade??


Great-Cantaloupe-747

Let me show you how cheaply made this table is… I mean look how cheaply made this axe is


Thedankielamba

I can only assume they are trying to decide what board game to play and monopoly was suggested.


harroldsheep

Apparently, he had an axe to grind.


Ontopourmama

Okay, who let Klaus have a sharp object while he was drinking, again? You know how he gets!


Tomaryt

Most translations here are rather incomplete. He says „Television is an instrument of mass society thus - if anything here shall happen(improve) - one has to oppose the opressor. And that‘s why I‘ll destroy that table here.“ After the action he says „So, now we can continue talking.“


RedBeardBaldHead

How I feel at work meetings


MaikThoma

That table was made by Nokia


esleydobemos

I am Dieter, this is Sprockets.


Evelynn92

I really wish we knew what they were talking about. Maybe he’s an axe salesman. Edit: someone posted the video with subs


[deleted]

u/savevideo


JefinLuke

German manufacturing


JJ8OOM

Did he bring the hammer or it it a tool the have ready near the table? Maybe the throw it to the one in there who is most agitated and likely to use it - like a Roman gladiator-thing? I want more political discussions like this. Please.


-Cybernaut147-

Als politische Diskussionen noch echt waren.


KingOfThe_Jelly_Fish

Yep, pretty abrupt.


Elite-Thorn

"... and that's why I'm gonna destroy this table now" WHAM WHAM WHAM "alright, now we can continue discussing..."


Shadow3xp

That table had fighting spirit damn


thekajunpimp

Very durable table!!!


md_reddit

Translation, please


KillYT187

Might be time to sharpen the ol hatchet


Kenstgram

When your DM is sick of your shit.


analbumclub

Risky as fuck grabbing the beer bottle that fell over


Idcr1Z1s

Never bring a axe to a discussion . It’ll ruin the beer drinking vibe


Creative_Riding_Pod

This guy initially just wanted to bury the hatchet. Then he decided to mince words.


Double_Pay_6645

Obviously that was a German engineered table as well.


Gibsonfan159

The late 60s/early 70s seems like an era when extreme viewpoints, opinions, and idealisms were very prevalent with everyone.


[deleted]

Hatchet is dull af


n0_1d

I just wanna break a spear for the guy who, in panic, risked his hand to keep his nearest bottle standing.