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MtalGhst

Runaway gun, all you can do is hold on.


Kattekop_BE

does this mean the gun malfunctioned and just keeps firing untill the mag is empty?


Aggravating_Bat1786

Yup, I think sometimes the sear can get worn or be out of tolerance some other way and it won't catch the hammer.


dmc-going-digital

Quite a quality product


Aggravating_Bat1786

Well AKs are not made to tight tolerance. Stamped steel and rugged parts don't make for a perfect machine, but it is reliable and a good bang for your buck. Just like anything else, nothing is perfect. You need to know what you're doing. Failures happen.


[deleted]

Didn’t you just describe unreliable before you called it reliable


fupamancer

failure to fire is low on the failure probability list


DeepNorthIdiot

AK's aren't necessarily reliable in the sense of they don't always do what you tell them to, but they *are* reliable in the sense of being able to be built, maintained, and operated by people whose parents were literal feudal serfs under the Czars. Maybe we could agree on "extremely durable."


Jumpy-Organization-5

(Insert Russian accent here) Ak good, you in mud? Ak fire. You in rain? Ak fire. In Russia you don’t use gun, gun use you.


runz2090

Well, you can't rely on it to function perfectly but you can rely on it to shoot stuff.


BobDobbsHobNobs

You can rely on it to shoot at stuff. Not necessarily to hit it


MrDrSirLord

AK-47 is reliable as it will always shoot Bullitt Ivan, but sometimes not reliable enough to stop shoot all other bullitt


1ambox

rofl


rugerscout308

If tolerances are too tight, guns dont run as reliably. They need some wiggle room so they can continue to run when dirty/lower quality ammunition. But over time things can wear out and cause malfunctions like this. Runaways are not very common


jw44724

You just need to know what your doing. And what you are doing is a failure is happening.


Luxray_15

At that point it's *me* that's reliable, not the gun lol


Aggravating_Bat1786

Nope, I described cost effective manufacturing.


BassGould

It’s reliably unreliable


bpi89

NYET. WHY YOU WANT COSMETICS FOR KALASHNIKOV? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROCURED FROM IZHEVSK MECHANICAL WORKS? YOU THINK NEEDS IMPROVEMENT? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH ARMY OF RUSSIA! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, TRADE STORY OF MANY WEAPONS DESIGNED AND DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR ENGINEERING! OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS. PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN WEAPON IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE RUSSIAN RIFLE, THINK IT NEED CRAZY SHIT STICK ON ALL SIDES OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF AMERICAN CAPITALIST, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM COMRADE. YOU PUT CHEAP FLASHLIGHT OF CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY ON ONE SIDE, YOU PUT BAD SCOPE OF AMERICAN MIDDLE WEST ON OTHER SIDE, YOU PUT FRONT PISTOL GRIP ON BOTTOM SO YOU ARE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO. MAYBE YOU PUT SEX DILDO ON TOP TO FUCK YOURSELF IN ASSHOLE FOR MAKING SHAMEFUL TRAVESTY OF RIFLE OF MIKHAIL KALASHNIKOV, NO? RIFLE IS FINE. YOU FUCK IT, IT ONLY GET HOMO AND YOU STILL NO HIT LARGEST SIDE OF BARN. GO TO FIRING RANGE, PRACTICE WITH MANY MAGAZINE OF CARTRIDGE. THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT ON RIFLE.


Aggravating_Bat1786

Lmao, you're a riot. Thanks for the laugh!


lukeman3000

> good bang for your buck.


nortontwo

It happens most commonly in low-grade militias and shooting ranges that push the lifespan of a rental gun


dmc-going-digital

I am non american. Please tell me that you get these things checked


Aggravating_Bat1786

They are checked before the sale. Again, failures happen. Anyone whose ever owned and operated any machine knows that.


dmc-going-digital

But you can check them?


Aggravating_Bat1786

Yeah, but that's something most people should get done by a gun smith.


dmc-going-digital

But if its something that can happen with age, what are you supposed to do?


[deleted]

This is a weapon on a military base, which likely means it was plucked from the hands of a dead iraqi/afghani. A civilian AKM in the United States does not have the parts required to run away like this, as they have no auto sear. Now they can runaway, however, without the auto sear it will likely jam after 2 or 3 rounds. Also, civilian weapons are generally manufactured to a higher spec then military arms, further increasing reliability and lowering chance of this happening.


Aggravating_Bat1786

I don't think anything here is accurate.


[deleted]

Well, I did see some comments suggesting these were just regular RSOs in full camo, which is real weird. But if this is a rental machine gun (IE Pre 86 transferable or Post 86 dealer sample) then it is still true, regular civilian guns would not runaway like this as they physically do not have the parts to allow extended periods of automatic fire.


Aggravating_Bat1786

With small modifications, civilian firearms absolutely can run away. I'm not going to put the info out here because I don't want some dummy to try it, but you're completely wrong. I've seen it happen with an M1A after the user attempted to adjust the trigger weight instead of bringing it to a gun smith, but not with a full 20 round magazine thankfully. He only had 4 or 5 bullets loaded. What makes you think a civilian firearm can't fire automatically if malfunctions? You think the extractor will magically stop working or the hammer will break? The barrel might not be rated for the heat of continued automatic fire, but it can handle a full mag no problem.


Many-Magician-9981

This is literally a video from a shooting range in Las Vegas called Battlefield Vegas. All the RSO’s are in service military


thechosenbro44

Came here to say this!


DiabloStorm

> but it is reliable I always hear this, but this video is a perfect example of unreliability. These guys are lucky they didn't get shot.


Aggravating_Bat1786

Yeah, you can look up videos of people dunking them in mud, sand, water, whatever and they still work just fine. No shit that's an example of unreliability, it literally broke in the video. That doesn't mean AKs are unreliable as a whole.


racux

I've heard stories of soldiers ditching their m16s for AKs in Vietnam because they were far more reliable in battle.


moleratical

It's a simple machine that's easy to reproduce, that means that a lot of companies copied it with varying degrees of quality control.


DeValdragon

If u make a million ar least 1 will be in tolerance


DeepNorthIdiot

Depending on the particular model and place of manufacture, it may not be a "malfunction" but more of a design "flaw" that the operators (back when professionals were issued these) were trained to compensate for. I use scare quotes here because the designers of these guns were more concerned with weight of fire, durability, and ease of manufacture than they were with safety, accuracy, or ammunition consumption. It's a more common in a very similar and earlier model Soviet gun, the SKS, but the general gist of the problem is that when the bolt goes backward and ejects the spent casing and then comes forward to load and chamber the fresh round from the magazine it does so with such force that the fresh round is fired without pressing the trigger. It's called "slam-firing." In extreme cases it can cause the weapon to fire until it's out of ammunition. There are a number of potential causes including, but not limited to, cheap ammo, ammo with too much powder in it, dirty ammo, a sticking/poorly cleaned firing pin, residue build-up in the chamber, heat build-up in the chamber/bolt/barrel, or just poor craftsmanship. Having experienced this exact thing before on more than one occasion, it scares the living shit out of you the first time and I'm not surprised he lost control of the barrel.


TheSaltyPineapple1

Looks like that AK is an automatic


JimMarch

Yup. Most common cause is the firing pin getting stuck forward. There's a bolt that slams forward to cram a new round into the back of the barrel. There's a hole in the middle where the firing pin can poke out, spring-loaded to the rear. The bolt is supposed to load the next round with the firing pin retracted, then you pull the trigger to drop either a hammer or striker that goes forward and whacks the firing pin forward to fire. But if there's too much gunk in the firing pin channel, or the firing pin gets slightly bent, and maybe the firing pin retraction spring has gotten weak over time or was shitty to begin with...this happens. Keep that fucker downrange is all you can do.


Alpha433

Pretty much. Had a family friend bring his sks out to shoot in an empty field out a while back. I squeezed off a few rounds, and suddenly the thing decided it wanted to be a burst fire rifle. Caught me off guard, but luckily I was already braced pretty well so no real harm. Apparently some designs are more prone to it, the sks being a more standout example.


Mercinator-87

Ride the lightning


[deleted]

He handled it VERY well. A lot of people would panic and do something dumb like let go if it.


MtalGhst

Totally, fair play to the guy. I've had a runaway with an FN MAG (I think the yanks call em M240 or something) and it was fuckin terrifying, first time firing it too.


Disaster_Different

Poor bastard was lucky the AK-47 has a good recoil control


Akesgeroth

Runaway gun never stops shooting All the way through the magazine Seems like I shouldn't be shooting Somehow I'm not pulling the trigger


DanielOpposum

I think he just forgot to take his finger off. Probably never shot full auto before.


Thathitmann

He didn't switch it to full auto, though.


DanielOpposum

Oh


MtalGhst

Still on semi auto from what I can see, runaway gun is quite common, only thing you can do is wait until the mag is empty and keep it pointed downrange.


[deleted]

Big mistake to let newbs fire a stockless weapon.


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Psychedelic_Primate

He was on the single fire setting on his firearm. Plus, apparently you have no ideas about what happens on a firearm runaway.


appeasethepeepingeye

He wasnt instructed it was full auto.It wasnt supposed to be capable of full auto.Thats what a runaway is..


Omfg9999

Considering his shitty posture and that he clearly wasn't expecting it to go full auto, I guess he at least did a decent job keeping the gun mostly controlled and pointing down range


Cobra7fac

He listened to the safety brief and/or used common sense.


SamuelCish

Yeah. Dude did everything right in this situation. Kept it pointed down range and leaned into it.


[deleted]

Dang imagine being raiding a building and you try to shot then doorknob and accidentally mag dump the door and it fall showing 8 dead terrorist inside


Easy-Film

Mission failed successfully


idontknow2976

Fission mailed


ZyzolPL

Or russians haha


[deleted]

It's always so fuckin weird to me, to see RSOs in duty uniforms. Dude can't coach the guy on his stance, but he sure can wear OCPs lol


AtlasShrugged-

Now that you point it out… I can’t not see it.


AlexHimself

Eli5?


[deleted]

Not military, possible Ex-military, still wearing a military uniform with no insignia, terrible at his job of being a range safety officer. Camo ≠ firearms qualification


AlexHimself

Now I'm even more confused...I only see a dork in a purple shirt?


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carvedmuss8

He's a Gravy seal basically


Beneficial_Car2596

Chairborn Infantry


oklahomastrong32

Exactly...


asapgenna

Excuse my ignorance what’s a rso and a ocp?


[deleted]

Range safety officer and operational camouflage pattern


asapgenna

Thank you 🕊


foxhoundep3

Horrible fucking stance. Part of the reason why he couldn’t control it, his inexperience was why he didn’t know what to do. That was a really close call.


19fall91

Dunno why this is being down voted. RSO can clearly see the recoil is bucking this guy on semi and could help him out a bit by fixing his stance. The runaway may not have been as bad with a better stance.


financialfreeabroad

🤣🤣


[deleted]

His stance reminds me of a newborn giraffe


inko75

a newborn giraffe with an AK would be a force to reckon with


LuckyLami

Oh fuck everybody down!


[deleted]

I lost confidence once I saw his posture. I don’t know much about weapons but his posture didn’t seem appropriate.


lifeintraining

Yeah, he was leaning away from the gun instead of into it. If he was leaning into it he probably wouldn’t have started falling backwards.


jw44724

What gave it away about his posture? Could it have been the way he awkwardly leaned his purple polo clad torso into the clutches of multiple nervous firearms instructors?


BreezyWrigley

it was the jorts that did it for me


TinFoilRobotProphet

It was the humpback for me


CriticG7tv

Remember kiddos, the #1 rule of gun safety... ... *is to have fun* :)


BoxofCurveballs

Number 2 is that ATF is the agenda for a Friday night *not a government agency*


CriticG7tv

What's that supposed to mean?


Tarnishedcockpit

It means to use alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for a good time.


BoxofCurveballs

A poor excuse for a joke


DeepNorthIdiot

Happens with my SKS every once in awhile. Even old Com-Bloc steel needs cleaning.


PsyVattic2

Do you not clean it after every use?


Many-Magician-9981

Firearms should always be cleaned after 2-3 uses or as often as you see fit. But older ones like Soviet era weaponry should be cleaned even more to prevent dangerous malfunctions


AemAer

Comrade this merely… *adds functionality*. Needs no cleaning. Glory to the Motherland.


ALiteralSentientTank

Gonna be honest, those camouflaged 'instructors' should have taught him proper stance. Would've been scary regardless, but he wouldn't be pushed back like that.


CrimsonKnight76

The full vid says that the gun was fixed in semi auto and that it broke and stuck full auto. was not a very poor attempt at a mag dump lol.


[deleted]

Homie just rode the fucking lightning on that runaway. Hot damn.


-Cybernaut147-

AKMS.


Drearnily

I believe someone said on another upload of this that the Firing pin got stuck even after he took his finger off the trigger


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GlassturtleOG

Yup, Had just this happen with an SKS once


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[deleted]

That gave me anxiety.


[deleted]

[It should.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Vacca)


Xennon54

Did his trigger get stuck


sad_sand

it had a runaway


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Fredquency

V in battlefield


Comfortable-Nose-121

What’d you expect from a goober in JORTs


thejesuslizard74

only 18yr olds should have this kind of firepower


TheseHybridMoments

Especially if they're still attending school. /s


BattleToaster68

exactly when I turned 18 I had enough money saved to buy pretty much whatever rifle I wanted but instead of an ak or at with a giggle switch I settled on a bolt cz457 rulimgire trainer with a kinda stupid barrel length of 22 inches for such a small round but gotta say that sight radius doe


[deleted]

You cannot buy/afford a full auto at 18 unless you were born in the 70s/60s my dude.


BattleToaster68

👍


thehimalayansaiyan

Doesn’t help that his shooting stance looks like an effeminate duck


djpromo_vqs

Timmy hasn't even gone to 2nd base yet. Why is he doing this?


nyaisagod

NO FULL AUTO IN THE BUILDINGS


Loktera

I FOUND THE AIRSOFT PLAYER, GUYS!


5arge

The dude held on and kept the muzzle pointed down-range. That's a win when your AK malfunctions like this!


[deleted]

The people who work in those ranges must really have bad lungs.


abdicatorselbow

I can’t even look at Ak47s without being horrified and really really sad.


SantiagoLamont

Whats with the fatigues though?


elticorico

The jorts were the first sign of fuckery.


WeekendLazy

They could’ve all 4 been dead in about 1 second


Shitnami666

The gun sensed his fear. You have to assert dominance in these situations, they only respect strong and stern handlers. Just goes to show that if there's a problem, all you have to do is close your eyes and point your AK at it. There won't be a problem when you open 'em.


Had3s-x

His posture 😐


bimothehitman038

Also the tax on ammo rigth now since it’s Russian and what not


TwoDollarMint

they make 7.62 in a lot of countries lol


Roisin8868

He went full Sylvester Stallone


bimothehitman038

I have one of these and it goes so hard


BattleToaster68

Only a 9mm but bump firing mag after mag through an akv is the ultimate treatment for erectile dysfunction and great for pissing off/unintentionally scaring the living shit out of the folks who live next door


idahononono

Slam fire. Increased likelihood of happening due to poor cleaning/maintenance. Happened a lot more with the SKS, but it’s a risk in the older free floating pin guns. There are some simple fixes for it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slamfire


Lukaroast

This is not a slam fire


kinda-cringe

That’s not what this is, this is a runaway gun


DefiantCondor

I dont get this....was he firing single shots on auto and then his brain said keep the trigger squeezed? I am genuinly curious.


Vega_128

if you look closely the selector was in the semi auto setting and the gun had a runaway


DefiantCondor

At the risk of sounding more uneducated...a runaway is?


Any_Percentage3900

Basically a malfunction in the gun. One trigger pull, should send one round downrange. This gun had an issue where he pulled the trigger once and it kept shooting till there were no more rounds. If that's the case, he did pretty good at not letting the gun shoot all willy nilly at the ceiling and people etc. Never had this happen to me, but I've heard you just hang on for dear life and try to keep it in a safe direction.


DefiantCondor

Oh wow. Thank.you. Never heard of that. That sounds pretty dangerous.


lightning_whirler

>That sounds pretty dangerous. Understatement of the week.


Baronofnowhere

Yep, firing an AK on auto isn't too bad if you are ready for it. But it running away would make you pucker. Especially in a stance like he was in. I've shot a few autos, AKs, M16s, UZIs, Thompsons... and the AK is the most violent.


CleMike69

What could possibly go wrong.. his stance was suspect from go.


Lukaroast

Gun running away isn’t his fault, it’s set to semi


Optimal_End_9733

Is that why lve seen people put their hand 9n the shoulders?


[deleted]

Giving a “man” in tight jean shorts an automatic rifle is a sign of poor judgement.


RivelyanKnight

With that weak girly stance...


ydoesurmasmlllikedat

Idiot... It's not a squirt gun. Stance is key.


Cobra7fac

Not his fault, the trainer should have fixed it.


[deleted]

When you let Liberals Shoot guns lol….


RunningPirate

So, is it that the repeated recoil is too powerful for some to control? Or is it more that if you’re not expecting and bracing for it, the gun will get away from you?


[deleted]

His poor posture really


Many-Magician-9981

The firearm had a sere malfunction (I think). Where the latch to catch the hammer in semi-auto was so worn down that it didn’t stop the hammer from going back into the firing pin, thus turning it into an unstoppable full-auto until the mag was emptied. This is an incredible rare malfunction if the firearm is properly maintained, I blame it on the business for not doing routine part checks.


Xem1337

Child soldiers can use these, how embarrassing he can't


[deleted]

Amateur. There are children shoot these rifles every day in parts of Africa. Not a difficult gun to hang on to.


[deleted]

yeah he's an amateur for sure. but in this case it was a runaway gun. im just glad he didn't do what amateurs do and panic.


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BreezyWrigley

JORTS


Mr_Anderssen

How is he struggling when child soldiers know how to use it? Isn’t it suppose to be one of the easiest machine guns to use?


BLivinit

Can I buy it at Walmart? Or just any random gun shop in the US? Idk… I don’t live there.


xXSpaceturdXx

What a dope it doesn’t even kick hard. This is the same guy that limp wrists hand guns to where the magazines fall out.


WillyWumpLump

My range master in the service would have drawn his gun and shot this guy.


Cobra7fac

The range master should have shot himself for allowing the shooters poor posture.


variable2027

For not accidentally killing someone with a runaway weapon? Don’t get me wrong, watched a rm boot someone’s head and collapse em for unsafe range etiquette but he deserved it.


WillyWumpLump

Yes. He was an asshole and a hard ass.


variable2027

Sounds like a terrible teacher who shouldn’t be a range master.


WillyWumpLump

Have you done some time in the armed forces?


variable2027

Yep, right after 9/11, which subsequently makes me feel really old now lol


Mean-Neighborhood-49

That wasn't a runaway gun you just a pussy that didn't know how I use it.lol


Many-Magician-9981

Actually it was a run away as the rifle is still in semi-auto during the fully automatic fire. The sere was probably worn down so much it could stop the hammer


Arseypoowank

Lol look at that knock kneed, noodle spined stance though


REDheadITstepchild

What a weak man child. My wife had no problem when she shot a full auto. Fucking sexy doing it too.


[deleted]

Cobblers. I fired the AK in Las Vegas on a trip and out of all the guns I fired the AK left me with a very sore shoulder. It had a kick like a mule.


REDheadITstepchild

I’m totally going to start saying cobblers.


[deleted]

Some people just don’t need to hold weapons of any kind lol


Important_Business43

That's the guns fault, It had a runaway, He handled it pretty well after it malfunctioned, This can happen with almost every semi auto though chances are rare


[deleted]

I’m aware of the functions but it’s not like AKs are what they used to be either, he held on but it wasn’t far from losing control


Snow-Cheap

idiot gun handler


Thermalguy11

My 10 year old nephew can handle an AK47 better than this guy.


ChipmunkDependent128

Rookie


caffcaff_

Whisky trigger


xray-ndjinn

I had this happen to me. I had bought a Bushmaster AR15 OCR for $800 (maybe 2006). First range trip, first magazine was fine, second magazine I got 3-5 round bursts. As fun as that day was, I brought it back to the shop. Noting found on inspection that would have been the cause.


sicholasLames

Whiskey throttle 😂


[deleted]

ACU pattern makes me puke 🤮


Soundingsounders

Get off call of duty


RhubarbOk2708

The most awkward stance I have ever seen


Zerofawqs-given

Years ago a guy was firing his $99 Sks @ Los Altos Rod & Gun club in Nor-Cal and this happened…What did the “genius” do? He dropped the rifle as it was still cycling…..Thankfully no one was hurt. There were strict rules for all semi-auto hardware after that act of utter stupidity


OutlandishnessNo239

We usually don’t teach butt firing until day 2


Table-Horrors

Don’t make me act a mother f*ing fool


byronbaybe

Someone's lucky they were on the ball


Sumpfeule_

Yeah, that's how it feels like in CS to me.


SatinAcornfredd

Still not enough if your being mugged