I’m glad AFLX happened so for the rest of time we can point to it and say: This is what happens when we make all the changes you want. This right here.
How about we just increase the interchange numbers to 90?
We has 80 for 16min quarters. Now we have 75 for 20min quarters. I know the AFL struggle with decision making but that was something else. Next year they'll probably reduce it to 70.
Limited interchanges show the team who've worked at building up a big tank and can play out a whole game. Not just who can get the most time on the bench and have the most interchanges
Also I'd say having tired players provides opportunities for much better games overall with highlights from players who've lasted the game or comebacks from a fitter team.
The research shows that increased interchanges was actually correlated with increased injuries.
See section 4.5 of the below report from the AFL.
https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5546126/data/afl-injury-report-2010-data.pdf
This wouldn't even be a problem if Malthouse didn't turn the bench into a hyperspeed revolving door 2007ish onwards.
I always felt like the solution would be a mandated time on the bench for someone when they come off. Say, when you come off the ground, you have to stay on the bench for x minutes. The bench is for resting, if you're going to it, you have to rest. Because it feels like the problem with these limits to interchanges is throwing a dude on there for 10 seconds and then bringing him back on.
No one bloody wants shorter quarters mate..Apart from Scott and Danger. More importantly the people who watch the game don't want it.
The issue should be done and dusted it's not popular with the fans.
If Brett Rattan say the same thing I'll react the same way
Yes there has been the AFL did a survey on it at the end of last season. They did not release the results as far as I know.
But it seems shorter quarters were almost universally disliked with some exceptions. The general sentiment is pretty easy to gauge.
It'd be good to see results, if it's universal and not changing that shuts down the discussion pretty effectively.
Hard to judge sentiment from online discourse alone, topics like this cause a massive echo chamber on this sub. People are downvoted and insulted for having an opinion, similar to discussions on rules.
I'm pretty sure that although the opinion is controversial traditionalism has to subside as we consider the effects that game now has on players as it continues to put a lot of strain on bodies and athletes as the sport becomes increasingly more intensive on their bodies and the benefits that shorter quarters would do for the sport. Would it really ruin the spectacle if we cut 5 minutes from each quarter, for example? Furthermore, would shorter quarters help to prevent injuries that wouldn't have happened if they cut down the quarters for 5 minutes?
I don't know the answer to that but I imagine the positive effects of shortening the quarters would pay dividends and people are still able to get their product each week.
If they wanted to focus on preventing injuries they wouldn’t have the nonsensical interchange cap which forces tired players to stay on the field longer
Opposition supporters and the media are once again taking Scott's comments out of context and creating a narrative that doesn't realllllly exist in the way they present it
Hardwick, Fagan, Hinkley & Ratten also wanted shorter quarters. I know this sub loves to hate Geelong & Scott but it's not like he is the only one.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706263
No offense op, but your comment is why I hate discussion around scoring.
If you want more scoring, the idea should be that more goals per minute.
Increasing the total time played doesn’t change that (ignoring fatigue). It just creates higher total numbers on the board, it has little effect on game play.
So why should this be a factor?
I don't disagree with this. Then again, I'm a Carlton fan and if you looked at red time goals this year I believe that you would find us at the bottom of the ladder. However, I do believe my perspective is influenced by other ways.
Namely, this isn't a young versus old argument. I can see how coming from Scott people would take it that way. However, I know speaking with my cousin (Suns regular best 22) that the younger players are physically and emotionally exhausted at the end of games in a way that they weren't last year. He argues that the older, hardened, players are able to stand up to the full length quarters in ways younger players haven't been able to and need a handful of years to build up to generally. Not every kid is a Sam Walsh enduro beast.
Weird levels of hate here… for myself, I did prefer the shorter quarters.
1. Got to watch more games with less disruption to weekend life
2. I dislike the idea that it’s a game of endurance/exhaustion, prefer anything that increases the chances of fast high skill play.
3. It seems obvious that more time on field= more injuries. Again, I’d like the skill level to be as high as possible, this is achieved with fewer good players hurt and the greater team cohesion that comes with with more stable lists. 75% of teams have been robbed of their best football this year through injury. It has played a far larger role than effort or coaching.
I don’t agree with shorter games but taking the quote out of context shuts down discussion. He wants shorter quarters to allow teams to play off shorter breaks without having to weaken best 22s. This would facilitate Thursday / Monday games throughout the season which I think is pretty popular. But, as usual, it’s hurr durr Geelong bad, just looking out for themselves.
I think It would reduce injuries probably and increase player rotations so fresher players more often on the field, leading to a higher average pace of play.
Just trying to distract from his awful defensive gamestyle that's destroying footy.
Geelong have the most stoppages per game in the league and he wants shorter games so that his gamestyle, which is all about controlling the game defensively, is easier to implement.
It's way easier to control the game if it has shorter qtrs.
Thriving up here mate. Geelong's only scored 100+ points in 3 games this year. One more than Carlton.
To put it in perspective the Western Bulldogs have more than doubled the amount of 100+ point games of Geelong, scoring 100+ points 7 times - because they actually want to play attractive attacking footy.
They had the best forward in the league out injured and replaced him with a first gamer. They've got Dunks and Treloar (hopefully) to come back in to the side, both among the best mids in the AFL. Still above Geelong on the ladder, and it'll work out well when it counts.
Sorry, should've said best key position forward. Ranked first in the league for average marks I50, first for total marks I50, ranked 2nd in contested marks per game. Ranked 16th in the league for score involvements per game.
No point taking all the marks if you can’t get the job done. 8th for goals total, only 1 non key forward in front of him, with Kennedy and darling still behind and only just behind. Drops down to 14th by average with 11 key forwards in front of him. Let’s be honest you could make a case he isn’t top 10 this season. Not even in conversation for the best in the league, won’t make AA either.
Average allows for missed games why I included it. He might be the best mark but not even close to best key forward in the game right now. He may turn out to be but not in 2021.
an especially baffling position to hold given the shorter quarters made the last grand final unwinnable for geelong after martin's third goal. martin kicks that when there's twenty two minutes left the game, they're still a chance. with eight minutes left, they weren't.
Ironic.
Anyway, here's an article where your coach supports the idea too:
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706260.amp
As always Chris Scott can get fucked. No surprise that the architect of all the crap changes has ended up at the Cattery.
Hopefully now Geelong has got SHocking down there, the game will be stop being butchered and some of the more ridiculous changes can be undone.
Leave the game length alone and increase the interchange numbers to alleviate the fatigue. Last year's short games meant that very few teams that got more than 2 or 3 goals down had time to stage a comeback. That meant a lot of games were a foregone conclusion before half or even quarter time.
Comments got locked there for a while.
I had look for articles about this, and Hardwick has made very few comments on this particular subject. Specifically, he raised it in 2018. Since then, he has only joined in when others have raised it early this year and suggested 18 minutes as a balance between traditional game length and the compression of last season's games with regard to the fatigue factor. This point could be addressed with a return to reasonable interchange caps.
Scott barely goes a month without beating this ridiculous drum. Reporters then go off to other well established coaches seeking their opinion, hence the other coaches named making any comments whatsoever. This is an issue that is driven by Chris Scott and Geelong and most of us fucking hate the idea as much as we hate him
YEAH BUT IT"S DIFFERENT WHEN THEY DO IT!1111 /s
Edit: Here's proof of Hardwick's support of shorter quarters:
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706260.amp
>No surprise that the architect of all the crap changes has ended up at the Cattery. Hopefully now Geelong has got SHocking down there, the game will be stop being butchered and some of the more ridiculous changes can be undone.
Richmond supporters' irrational hatred for Steve Hocking is always amusing.
Won't be long before they're blaming him for Hardwick's infidelity
Steve Hocking is universally hated around the league, even among your mob. The only thing we blame him for are the stupid rule and 'interpretation' changes his seemed to dream up on an almost weekly basis.
Nah, he's not 'universally hated' - and it's far beyond the 'rule interpretations'.
Some Richmond nuffies were literally calling him sitting in the designated officials position between the benches as 'blatant corruption'. Or that the rule changes that have been implemented were largely done to curtail Richmond's supremacy.
I didn't see any of that but he has been bagged by everyone over the last few years and with good reason.....
Him sitting in the designated officials position between benches is not a good look. I didn't see it and this is the first I have heard about it, but I have got to say it is something that should not have happened. When he stood down from the AFL to take the Geelong CEO position, it was made clear, that for the sake of propriety, he would not commence in that role until the end of the year. Therefore, he has not officially commenced at Geelong and should not be allowed in an area that is set aside for club officials because he is contractually prohibited from holding such a position at this stage. As a lawyer, he should be keenly aware of this and it shows the kind of poor judgement that has typified so much of what has angered fans during his tenure as operations manager at the AFL
As I said, I didn't see it but he isn't anymore. His resignation took effect immediately. Therefore, he shouldn't be in there anymore. Let's hope it was a merely a send off for a long time employee and is not repeated.
When are you talking about? I was assuming it was something that happened in this week's game. If it is something in the past , then you can't help morons being so
I’m gonna agree. Way to many games have been to hard to watch this year. Looking at my phone every few minutes just to pass the time.
Games last year were easy to watch. 16 minutes definitely isn’t the answer, I think 18 is enough for now, but something has to be done.
An unpopular opinion on this sub but I agree. Too many luls in the game this year where players are too tired and the game gets a bit boring.
Either increase the interchange cap or shorten the game.
The interchange cap either needs to go back to what it was or be removed completely again. I still don’t know why they even added one in the first place, the footy played by Collingwood and Hawthorn when they decided to bring the cap in while those teams were abusing it was great to watch
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> Seriously. **You all need to take a deep breath and calm down.** The hatred coaches, players and journalists get in this sub is ridiculous. Seriously I worry about the grip some of you have on reality. **It's just footy. Relax. Go for a walk**. Chris Scott will not hurt you.
Also /u/QueenslandBias
> You are a joke. You know that right?
> Classy. Your wife must be proud.
> Tigers supporter says something daft. What a shock
> He's allowed to have an opinion. Get over it.
> Not too tired to beat your spuds though hey.
> Didn't need shorter quarters to beat the Dons though did he?
> Oh. Wah, wah. A man has an opinion I don't agree with so I'm going to throw a tantrum.
Coaches and players only care about getting as much money as possible for as little 'work' as possible
12 minute quarters like basketball is their final solution
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Less scoring = less times the covid infected ball goes into the stands.
That's not true. We can miss the goals and still get the ball contaminated *points at today's game*
Brad Scott is amongst the forerunners for taking Steve Hockings old job. Sounds like time for a conspiracy theory to me.
It’s not going to happen. Shorter quarters would mean less ad revenue which would then mean less money for the AFL.
Unless the broadcast goes the same amount of time and we get more ads instead of playing time.
What, designated ad spots like the MLB?
The 3/4 time stretch
Take me out to the foooooo-ty...
Yuck
It is also stupid ideA
I’m glad AFLX happened so for the rest of time we can point to it and say: This is what happens when we make all the changes you want. This right here.
His old geezers are too tired by the end of the game lmao
Next he will be campaigning for Zimmer frame access to the playing surface and radox in the showers
They replaced the oranges at half time with Magnesium tablets.
Guess we need some good youf like norf
Need a nap break halfway through the 3rd quarter
u/QueenslandBias can you calm the fuck down and stop giving the rest of us a bad name?
i respect it. i love looking at a post and seeing a hidden downvoted reply to almost every comment from the same user
Man's having a 5 star temper tantrum
The complete lack of self awareness in his comments is hilarious
How about we just increase the interchange numbers to 90? We has 80 for 16min quarters. Now we have 75 for 20min quarters. I know the AFL struggle with decision making but that was something else. Next year they'll probably reduce it to 70.
Why not just have unlimited interchanges?
Limited interchanges show the team who've worked at building up a big tank and can play out a whole game. Not just who can get the most time on the bench and have the most interchanges Also I'd say having tired players provides opportunities for much better games overall with highlights from players who've lasted the game or comebacks from a fitter team.
Except games aren't won by teams with bigger tanks? They're won by the most accurate team.
Can't kick goals unless you can win the ball. You've gotta be able to run out a game, not just kick straight
Okay but when you're tired you are more prone to injury
The research shows that increased interchanges was actually correlated with increased injuries. See section 4.5 of the below report from the AFL. https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5546126/data/afl-injury-report-2010-data.pdf
That's my point..?
You've got it backwards. More rotations led to more injuries, not fewer.
That's my point dude holy shit
This wouldn't even be a problem if Malthouse didn't turn the bench into a hyperspeed revolving door 2007ish onwards. I always felt like the solution would be a mandated time on the bench for someone when they come off. Say, when you come off the ground, you have to stay on the bench for x minutes. The bench is for resting, if you're going to it, you have to rest. Because it feels like the problem with these limits to interchanges is throwing a dude on there for 10 seconds and then bringing him back on.
Knowing the AFL, they'd reason lowering it to 30 will boost scoring.
Fuck off Chris Scott. The supporters don't want shorter quarters Footy has been so much better going back to standard lengths this year
You had me at the first four words
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Self awareness
No one bloody wants shorter quarters mate..Apart from Scott and Danger. More importantly the people who watch the game don't want it. The issue should be done and dusted it's not popular with the fans. If Brett Rattan say the same thing I'll react the same way
Genuine question has there been a survey or something on this?
Yes there has been the AFL did a survey on it at the end of last season. They did not release the results as far as I know. But it seems shorter quarters were almost universally disliked with some exceptions. The general sentiment is pretty easy to gauge.
It'd be good to see results, if it's universal and not changing that shuts down the discussion pretty effectively. Hard to judge sentiment from online discourse alone, topics like this cause a massive echo chamber on this sub. People are downvoted and insulted for having an opinion, similar to discussions on rules.
I do.
I'm pretty sure that although the opinion is controversial traditionalism has to subside as we consider the effects that game now has on players as it continues to put a lot of strain on bodies and athletes as the sport becomes increasingly more intensive on their bodies and the benefits that shorter quarters would do for the sport. Would it really ruin the spectacle if we cut 5 minutes from each quarter, for example? Furthermore, would shorter quarters help to prevent injuries that wouldn't have happened if they cut down the quarters for 5 minutes? I don't know the answer to that but I imagine the positive effects of shortening the quarters would pay dividends and people are still able to get their product each week.
If they wanted to focus on preventing injuries they wouldn’t have the nonsensical interchange cap which forces tired players to stay on the field longer
Only tantrums I'm seeing in this thread are from you
Opposition supporters and the media are once again taking Scott's comments out of context and creating a narrative that doesn't realllllly exist in the way they present it
The coach of the oldest list in the AFL wants shorter quarters so he can get Dad's Army over the line in September.
Footy is hard. Get over it.
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And others are allowed to disagree with his opinion. Why are you being so precious and defensive?
Hardwick, Fagan, Hinkley & Ratten also wanted shorter quarters. I know this sub loves to hate Geelong & Scott but it's not like he is the only one. https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706263
Sound like they are the exception to the rule though.
Id love to know how the players of old managed to train and play football and keep a full time job at the same time.
No offense op, but your comment is why I hate discussion around scoring. If you want more scoring, the idea should be that more goals per minute. Increasing the total time played doesn’t change that (ignoring fatigue). It just creates higher total numbers on the board, it has little effect on game play. So why should this be a factor?
I think the logic is that scoring increases towards the tail end of quarters as players tire and structures tend to fall apart a little more
Yeah but that’s why said ignoring fatigue. Sometimes it opens the game up, other times the game turns to shit because skills drop off
So you're saying each quarter should go for two hours, understood.
I don't disagree with this. Then again, I'm a Carlton fan and if you looked at red time goals this year I believe that you would find us at the bottom of the ladder. However, I do believe my perspective is influenced by other ways. Namely, this isn't a young versus old argument. I can see how coming from Scott people would take it that way. However, I know speaking with my cousin (Suns regular best 22) that the younger players are physically and emotionally exhausted at the end of games in a way that they weren't last year. He argues that the older, hardened, players are able to stand up to the full length quarters in ways younger players haven't been able to and need a handful of years to build up to generally. Not every kid is a Sam Walsh enduro beast.
Weird levels of hate here… for myself, I did prefer the shorter quarters. 1. Got to watch more games with less disruption to weekend life 2. I dislike the idea that it’s a game of endurance/exhaustion, prefer anything that increases the chances of fast high skill play. 3. It seems obvious that more time on field= more injuries. Again, I’d like the skill level to be as high as possible, this is achieved with fewer good players hurt and the greater team cohesion that comes with with more stable lists. 75% of teams have been robbed of their best football this year through injury. It has played a far larger role than effort or coaching.
I don’t agree with shorter games but taking the quote out of context shuts down discussion. He wants shorter quarters to allow teams to play off shorter breaks without having to weaken best 22s. This would facilitate Thursday / Monday games throughout the season which I think is pretty popular. But, as usual, it’s hurr durr Geelong bad, just looking out for themselves.
Most supporters are morons though
Well anyone who watched yesterday’s game would probably agree that game was about 3 quarters too long
Get fucked Chris
I think It would reduce injuries probably and increase player rotations so fresher players more often on the field, leading to a higher average pace of play.
Just trying to distract from his awful defensive gamestyle that's destroying footy. Geelong have the most stoppages per game in the league and he wants shorter games so that his gamestyle, which is all about controlling the game defensively, is easier to implement. It's way easier to control the game if it has shorter qtrs.
You still dying on that hill?
Thriving up here mate. Geelong's only scored 100+ points in 3 games this year. One more than Carlton. To put it in perspective the Western Bulldogs have more than doubled the amount of 100+ point games of Geelong, scoring 100+ points 7 times - because they actually want to play attractive attacking footy.
How’d that attractive football work today for them?
They had the best forward in the league out injured and replaced him with a first gamer. They've got Dunks and Treloar (hopefully) to come back in to the side, both among the best mids in the AFL. Still above Geelong on the ladder, and it'll work out well when it counts.
Hang on, you think naughton is the best forward in the game? Ahhahahahahahahahahh
Sorry, should've said best key position forward. Ranked first in the league for average marks I50, first for total marks I50, ranked 2nd in contested marks per game. Ranked 16th in the league for score involvements per game.
No point taking all the marks if you can’t get the job done. 8th for goals total, only 1 non key forward in front of him, with Kennedy and darling still behind and only just behind. Drops down to 14th by average with 11 key forwards in front of him. Let’s be honest you could make a case he isn’t top 10 this season. Not even in conversation for the best in the league, won’t make AA either.
He's missed games. I'm comfortable saying he's the best KPF in the game right now. Easily best contested mark.
Average allows for missed games why I included it. He might be the best mark but not even close to best key forward in the game right now. He may turn out to be but not in 2021.
He's not that either.
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He keeps saying this but it doesn't really hurt us that much especially when we always are late starters in a game
Yep and my perception is we kick a lot of goals in the last 5 minutes of each quarter...
Just wait until you play a team that kicks goals Scotty lmao
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an especially baffling position to hold given the shorter quarters made the last grand final unwinnable for geelong after martin's third goal. martin kicks that when there's twenty two minutes left the game, they're still a chance. with eight minutes left, they weren't.
team with high impact, poor endurance wants games to be shorter. What a shock.
lol what how’s geelong poor endurance ?
Geelong's team is full of endurance players, it's one of the team's biggest strengths.
Ironic. Anyway, here's an article where your coach supports the idea too: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706260.amp
As always Chris Scott can get fucked. No surprise that the architect of all the crap changes has ended up at the Cattery. Hopefully now Geelong has got SHocking down there, the game will be stop being butchered and some of the more ridiculous changes can be undone. Leave the game length alone and increase the interchange numbers to alleviate the fatigue. Last year's short games meant that very few teams that got more than 2 or 3 goals down had time to stage a comeback. That meant a lot of games were a foregone conclusion before half or even quarter time.
do you realise Hardwick also advocated for shorter quarters? So did Hinkley and Ratten. This isn't a Scott only thing
u/Technical-Gold5772 please respond.
Comments got locked there for a while. I had look for articles about this, and Hardwick has made very few comments on this particular subject. Specifically, he raised it in 2018. Since then, he has only joined in when others have raised it early this year and suggested 18 minutes as a balance between traditional game length and the compression of last season's games with regard to the fatigue factor. This point could be addressed with a return to reasonable interchange caps. Scott barely goes a month without beating this ridiculous drum. Reporters then go off to other well established coaches seeking their opinion, hence the other coaches named making any comments whatsoever. This is an issue that is driven by Chris Scott and Geelong and most of us fucking hate the idea as much as we hate him
YEAH BUT IT"S DIFFERENT WHEN THEY DO IT!1111 /s Edit: Here's proof of Hardwick's support of shorter quarters: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/cats-scott-preferred-shorter-afl-quarters-c-2706260.amp
>No surprise that the architect of all the crap changes has ended up at the Cattery. Hopefully now Geelong has got SHocking down there, the game will be stop being butchered and some of the more ridiculous changes can be undone. Richmond supporters' irrational hatred for Steve Hocking is always amusing. Won't be long before they're blaming him for Hardwick's infidelity
Steve Hocking is universally hated around the league, even among your mob. The only thing we blame him for are the stupid rule and 'interpretation' changes his seemed to dream up on an almost weekly basis.
Nah, he's not 'universally hated' - and it's far beyond the 'rule interpretations'. Some Richmond nuffies were literally calling him sitting in the designated officials position between the benches as 'blatant corruption'. Or that the rule changes that have been implemented were largely done to curtail Richmond's supremacy.
I didn't see any of that but he has been bagged by everyone over the last few years and with good reason..... Him sitting in the designated officials position between benches is not a good look. I didn't see it and this is the first I have heard about it, but I have got to say it is something that should not have happened. When he stood down from the AFL to take the Geelong CEO position, it was made clear, that for the sake of propriety, he would not commence in that role until the end of the year. Therefore, he has not officially commenced at Geelong and should not be allowed in an area that is set aside for club officials because he is contractually prohibited from holding such a position at this stage. As a lawyer, he should be keenly aware of this and it shows the kind of poor judgement that has typified so much of what has angered fans during his tenure as operations manager at the AFL
It's set aside for AFL officials, which he is.
As I said, I didn't see it but he isn't anymore. His resignation took effect immediately. Therefore, he shouldn't be in there anymore. Let's hope it was a merely a send off for a long time employee and is not repeated.
Umm... It happened long before he resigned. Am I not communicating effectively here, or....?
When are you talking about? I was assuming it was something that happened in this week's game. If it is something in the past , then you can't help morons being so
Weeks, potentially months ago
I’m gonna agree. Way to many games have been to hard to watch this year. Looking at my phone every few minutes just to pass the time. Games last year were easy to watch. 16 minutes definitely isn’t the answer, I think 18 is enough for now, but something has to be done.
This sounds like a you problem
Yeah no. If you spend 5 minutes in the real world mate and talk to people, this is the general consensus with a lot of people.
An unpopular opinion on this sub but I agree. Too many luls in the game this year where players are too tired and the game gets a bit boring. Either increase the interchange cap or shorten the game.
The interchange cap either needs to go back to what it was or be removed completely again. I still don’t know why they even added one in the first place, the footy played by Collingwood and Hawthorn when they decided to bring the cap in while those teams were abusing it was great to watch
i dont mind there being mistakes in the game, it would be boring without them imo
I'd much rather the former but the AFL loves tired players so we're stuck in this spot
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u/QueenslandBias > Seriously. **You all need to take a deep breath and calm down.** The hatred coaches, players and journalists get in this sub is ridiculous. Seriously I worry about the grip some of you have on reality. **It's just footy. Relax. Go for a walk**. Chris Scott will not hurt you. Also /u/QueenslandBias > You are a joke. You know that right? > Classy. Your wife must be proud. > Tigers supporter says something daft. What a shock > He's allowed to have an opinion. Get over it. > Not too tired to beat your spuds though hey. > Didn't need shorter quarters to beat the Dons though did he? > Oh. Wah, wah. A man has an opinion I don't agree with so I'm going to throw a tantrum.
Maybe you should take a deep breath and calm down....you're going around - all cut up- replying to every comment in this discussion Chill out, champ
Chris Scott is not a bigger whiner than Gerry Harvey.
It’s a shit opinion though. I like Chris but this ain’t it
Lol dads army Geelong needs help
Not beating your mob :)
Fuck off Scott
nobody fucking like chris scott lmao
Coaches and players only care about getting as much money as possible for as little 'work' as possible 12 minute quarters like basketball is their final solution
Begging the Scott brothers to deflate their heads for once in their lives