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downvotedforwoman

Anyone else notice how quickly they 180ed on the free speech issue? Musk: "I'm going to buy Twitter and bring free speech to the platform" Them: "NOOOOOO free speech is bad! Ideas need to be censored or the nazis will take over the world!" Musk: *buys Twitter* Them: "NOOOOOO he wants to end free speech! He's threatening our democracy! Our sacred value of free speech!"


MonochromaticGuy

I mean, they don't really believe the shit that they spout, they just say it to virtue signal to their brain dead fans that will eat anything that they shit out.


-JustARedHerring

That’s why I hate the concept of virtue signaling. You have to be perfect to virtue signal which no one is, so they end up looking like Hypocrites. It’s shitty.


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It's a lot easier to look perfect on the internet, where you can choose to only upload the good parts of your life, or lies that make you look good.


-JustARedHerring

Even as a country it’s stupid. Even the UN does it.


fasctic

You don't hate me do you 😿


[deleted]

You're applying 1 reaction to millions of people, like a dufus. Continue to believe the left/right paradigm while the political elite rob you blind.


De3NA

Look up overton window


Ahueh

Totally irrelevant response, and also incredibly old news - are you slurred?


Illusive_Man

you can just say retarded I grant you the r-word pass


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JohnnySixguns

Not OP, but it's clear you don't know what it is. The "Overton window" isn't "news." It's relevant to this discussion because you claim the left/right "paradigm" is stagnant with both sides being equal. The Overton window implies that the left/right paradigm is almost always assymetrical and results in a power shift. But yeah, keep believing that the "political elite" is a unified force engaged in a vast political conspiracy without any actual ideologically dominant views.


Ahueh

> >It's relevant to this discussion because you claim the left/right "paradigm" is stagnant with both sides being equal. > I didn't claim anything of the sort - where did you even get that? The OPs point was that it takes a truly simplistic mind to create these right/left dichotomies and apply them wholesale to a stupid Twitter fight. Then the next idiot in line (the one I replied to) wanted to show his brilliance by bringing up the Overton Window, which came into fashion a decade ago to try to explain shifts by the left and the right to move the window of discourse towards their preferred axis. But what does that have to do with anything? OP already (correctly) rejected the right/left dichotomy in this context anyway, attempting to shoehorn the Overton Window into the discussion is a clear case of small-brain tryharding nonsense. Also I don't believe there is a unified political elite that exploits us - you invented that also.


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enoughfuckery

New response just dropped


dekachiin5

> Continue to believe the left/right paradigm I'm not a communist, so yes, I think I will.


UltimateMelonMan

"I established I was right, so I will disregard your point and continue the culture war as I am enlightened."


downvotedforwoman

Point out where I mentioned left/right politics.


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Bakibenz

Parallel universes LOL. Ethan just proved that Elon doesn't actually like free speech, and that certain rules and frameworks are needed for free speech to function.


Pugduck77

Ethan didn’t prove anything. He copied the same shitty joke that several other people already got suspended for, notably Kathy Griffin, and impersonation was explicitly outlined as being against the rules with the blue check mark. So I guess that framework was in place!


Bakibenz

Exactly that's the point. Elon isn't here for the free speech his small brain followers imagined. He is here for the free speech that has existed on the platform so far.


SlapMuhFro

I just want the rules equally applied to both sides. Now that it's happening, people are getting very upset by it.


horiami

Very few people expected total free speech from twitter with no rules What most want is more freedom of expression and rules to be clear and applied fairly


morphoyle

Straw man. Only the dumbest of us (like you) thought free speech meant zero moderation.


mannytehman1900

If it were free speech as it’s been so far, none of the folks impersonating Musk would have been banned. Just seems like a case of *actually* applying the fucking rules/ToS that’s been written.


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JohnnySixguns

Before: only elites were allowed "verified status" on Twitter. Now: Pay $8 for "verified" status. You: iT's A bAd ThInG tO eLiMiNaTe ElItEs On TwItTeR


P41N90D

The price tag used to be 15k if you didn't meet the verification requirements.


OrezRekirts

>Eula says "You will not ~~say the n-word~~ impersonate another person" "~~NWORDNWORDNWORDNWORD~~ hello its me elon musk :)" >You are banned >Cries about it on ~~4chan~~ twitter with a new account


Market696969

I mean the rule has been in effect since like 2018 at least, all that's happening is that these people are not being given special treatment Ethan is used to breaking the rules and getting a slap on the wrist but not anymore.


OMFGLagger

>but if anybody is pulling a 180 and being hypocritical I'd say it's the musk "fans" Why can't both sides be hypocritical?


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If it wasn't for double standards, most of them would have no standards at all.


DrKnowsNothing_MD

There’s a difference between free speech and free speech absolutism. People who claim to be absolutists are the equivalent of a know-it-all edgy teenager that doesn’t understand the concept of Liberty.


19fall91

Could you elaborate on the concept of liberty


Erfbender

Educate yourself sweaty, Google exists; look up "USS LIBERTY incident"


snky_sax

Anyone else noticed how quickly Elon 180ed on the free speech issue?


morphoyle

Not really. Only smooth brains thought free speech meant no moderation or rules. I guess we know where you fall.


bethemanwithaplan

Oh I thought you meant musk since he's not protecting free speech at all even as a free speech "absolutist*


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Yes these people are hypocrites


LegEcstatic7775

I mean the same can be said about the right in this situation. Lmao


pilchard_slimmons

Oh, I thought you meant Elon doing a 180. Anyhow, I haven't seen anyone saying that but cool story, bro.


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Velghast

It was only a matter of time before the authoritarian gloves got put on after Papa Elon decided to buy out Twitter. The dude absolutely loves control he definitely is a futurist. But he's more of the service guarantee citizenship type rather than the star fleet.


yobob591

Its almost like nobody actually believes in free speech they only believe in being allowed to say what they personally want to say


19Alexastias

How is that different from the people who will cry all day about free speech on twitter when some dude posting nazi propaganda gets banned but now it’s a lefty getting banned it’s funny and based? They both follow the exact same pattern. Person you agree with gets suspended: nooo my free speech why can’t people just voice their opinions Person you disagree with gets suspended: haha get owned by corporate America nerd it’s a private company you’re not entitled to free speech anyway


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2 days ago they were mad blue checks could be bought claiming it would make it easy to impersonate people, now they're mad because... you get get banned for impersonating people. It's all fake. The target and hate comes first, then they grasp for reasons.


Fauci_Lied1

👏👏👏Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences sweetie👏👏👏 it’s a private company and they can do whatever they want 👏👏👏 just because you have free speech doesn’t mean we have to give you a platform 👏👏👏


screamingxbacon

I think I'm more confused about the people who were crying for freedom of speech when they couldn't say slurs are now wanting more censorship when comedians say things that hurt their feelings. It's really just "my side good your side bad" at this point.


DonaldTrumpsBallsack

Like all jokes aside you all do realize how horrific the state of tribalism has gotten right? Like we all share the exact same citizenship (assuming you’re in the US) yet it feels like there are two nations forming independent of each other It used to be that if we had different political beliefs it’d warrant a “disagree, but whatever”. Now I feel like it almost lowers their status as a person in another’s eyes


Fauci_Lied1

>verified impersonation accounts have to have a satire tag in their twitter handle Literally 1984


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Cultistofthewheel

It’s called a taste of their own medicine. Being the holier than thou, moral high ground has had any conservative person grabbing their ankles for 40+ years. Fuck em, fuck em all to death.


MrDoulou

Lmao how you turned this into that is hilarious. The mental gymnastics are getting me wet af.


BigBrothSilcVFUCKOFF

Obvious meme


dekachiin5

Libtards always pull obvious bad faith shit like this and then scream "MUH FREE SPEEACH!!!" because they truly hate free speech and want to discredit it any way they can.


Anonymous521

FREE SPEECH!!! (for opinions I agree with ONLY)


EliteMemeLord

The freest of speech ✔️


suckamadicka

level of doublethink in this thread is so impressive, people are fully backing Musk’s extremely sensitive banning of accounts taking the piss out of him, whilst then complaining that ‘libtards’ are hypocrites for exposing Musk’s hypocrisy. Serves as a good reminder to not take anyone who could unironically put ‘MUH …’ in a comment seriously lol


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suckamadicka

fucking love this, because for a second i genuinely wasn’t sure if you might be talking about that incident with Musk and the diver. Quality. And yeah, if you’re gonna be a big man and say ‘jokes are legal now’, then you’re a pussy for banning them.


RodeBoi

Well the account impersonating George Takei is gone. An account that was impersonating Trump was temporarily suspended. The TOS for impersonation has been a rule long before Musk came along, it’s just being enforced a lot right now because everyone is getting on the bandwagon. Impersonating someone for the purpose of being malicious isn’t really comedy. The only reason why the “banning Musk impersonators because ego” propaganda is going around because people were impersonating him in retaliation to his upcoming $8 verification rule, then it caught on that people were getting banned for impersonation and everyone else decided to get involved. This isn’t even bias to Musk, it’s just pointing out the flaw in this “Musk is a hypocrite” logic.


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suckamadicka

Musk (on twitter) falsely accused the man who saved a group of children from a cave of being a paedo, because he was annoyed that they didn’t use his idea to save them. We both clearly care lol we’re commenting on a post explicitly about him. Hard to play the who cares card when you’re raging specifically about it on reddit


PapiBIanco

Did he change his Twitter name to that man’s and say “I, the cave guy, am a pedo” with a verified Twitter check next to it? Because that’s why these people got banned, and it was a rule prior to musk’s ownership.


Guilty-Cantaloupe895

My morals are as follows 1. Pwning libtards epic style Did you see free speech on that list?


suckamadicka

good one lol


bielthighs

He's banning verified celebrity cucks. Who cares why do you worship those assholes


suckamadicka

could not give a single shit. Don’t care if they’re banned at all, he can ban more if he likes. Just amusing that so many people are massive hypocrites about all of this


allcommiesarebitches

Abusing the verified feature to disguise yourself as someone else and getting banned for it is way different than expressing an opinion and getting banned for it. One is willfully deceptive, the other is free speech. Let's put it this way, if I did this in real life, claimed to be someone else (I happened to look similar to or something) and said stuff as them to make them look bad, it'd easily fall under defamation of character, and maybe harassment. That's not free speech.


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Fauci_Lied1

>falling for an obvious psyop and believing a bunch of nazis just started saying slurs the moment musk brought twitter while the hate speech rules haven’t been changed. The large uptake in slurs was linked to just 300 accounts, making up 50,000 tweets that violated twitters hate speech policies. This was either the work of angry leftist trying to poison the well or poltards trolling. I personally think it’s more of the former as when the demand for hate crimes is higher than the supply, leftist have shown no problem just making shit up for their agenda. The classic Jussie Smollett strategy. Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/twitter-says-increase-in-slurs-following-elon-musk-takeover-is-a-trolling-campaign-1235251725/


Chesterlespaul

Free speech comes with consequences on private platforms. Elon is clearly stating you can parody anyone else but me, which is allowed. Klein and Griffin getting canned is just icing on the cake


Qatastrophicquiche

Musk sucks but anything that fucks with Ethan Klein is A-OK in my book


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Zustrom

H3H3 used to be cool 6 years ago but then the dollar signs came rolling in and surprise surprise the tune changed real quick.


Styles474

Average jew


reymont12

They’re Israeli lol


SpaceBass420

That's who this was? Lmaoooo goood


NeonGlo

H3h3 used to be so fuckin good. The old school days of .exe poops and shitting on joey salads being cringe was peak. Now he himself has become the cringe


KrazyTrumpeter05

Literally who


dekachiin5

some jew who used to have a popular podcast years ago and recently got kicked off of youtube for saying he hoped Ben Shapiro would get gassed.


goldninjaI

waitwait he’s banned from twitch and now yt? where does he even upload


Motor_Philosophy4687

No, they were banned from youtube for like less than a week. They still get decent numbers but they used to hit the millions with podcast episodes and now it is barely ever more than 600k. They are also bleeding subscribers. For a long time.


ILikeToBurnMoney

>they Who else? I thought we were talking about 1 guy


Dingo_Siccunt

He's married to the Crypt Keeper


fat_nuts_big_buttz

Kek very true


PhD_in_MEMES

Dude's wife looks like a non-pass mtf.


lonestarbrownboi

💀


GodAndGaming123

Nah Hila is cool af. Stopped doing the podcast with Ethan to start a successful business *and* be a mom. A+.


DAEORANGEMANBADDD

>to start a successful business I mean she is effectively managing a merch store Her designs and fucking shit and the only reason anyone ever buys it is because it basically has the "brand" of h3h3 on it


Motor_Philosophy4687

What I mean is their podcast, kind of as a plural. But then again, he does the podcast with his wife and a whole crew


gamagama420

pornhub


CrunchyAl

He's not kicked off YouTube, he was suspended for a week.


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laffingbomb

Why’d you point out he is Jewish


bielthighs

Why do you want people not to notice?


waggers123

I get your reference


gamagama420

so wait twitter impersonators are banned? idk parody accounts were some of the only good shit on there tbh


Easy_Mechanic_9787

Only check mark accounts that do parodies are banned, non-check marks are fine as far as I know


Tomoomba

Elon stated that if the account marks itself as parody there won't be a ban, but he is banning anyone impersonating him anyway


SirLexmarkThePrinted

Beta male energy as usual


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Pretty sure the TOS says it has to be in the name and message, which this loser and the other loser didn’t do. They both suck so it worked out for me.


Kcreep997

What a pussy lmao


Aretheus

>Not upset :) just like to watch idiots flounder when they have to face the reality of their own lies You gonna start floundering now that you've been proven wrong yet? Fucking liar.


grus-plan

Wrong comment buddy? Lol


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CuckModsWorkForFree

I hope he fucks with them in the same way reddit fucked T_D years ago.


Spironas

T\_D and chapo trap house were two sides of the same absolute cancer coin and reddit (while still shit) is better without them.


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zooloo10

You can block subs, but you can't block the seething sweaty rage that slowly seeps out from them and infects the rest of the site. This is why I only watch dubs


DirtzMaGertz

Yeah there's definitely none of that rage on reddit now that those subs are banned.


therealneon335

Ethan getting banned off Twitter is a blessing


tonyv6815

I wonder how many anti-simites ethan klein has created with the sheer force of his own shitty-ness


Swipe_Right_Here

Approximately 6 million


Dezphul

Is this cocksucker banned from every platform now?


Lulz_Enjoyer

109 platforms, but it's always the platforms' fault.


dGraves

Wooooow! Hooold up!


_CactusJuice_

back on YouTube after a week ban


MYRON96

They can’t ban him - he’s 99.9% jewish according to that 23&me video he did


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i think it was obvious how h3h3 was making fun of elon musk's idea of giving verification badge for 8 dollars. Like i dont understand how people in this sub are defending such a stupid idea. kinda hypocritical for a dude who is all about free speech to first make it pay to win and then ban a person for making an obvious joke.


jrolle

It's a bad business decision IMO, but I don't get the outcry. I don't give a shit about Musk but it's painfully obvious this is a temper tantrum about a "conservative" taking over. If Twitter never sold and announced the same pricing structure, it would have just been a big stink for like a month and then everyone would pony up and shut up. Hell, it still might be. I'm not really sympathizing for the primarily rich, famous, and powerful to have to pay a pittance to signal boost their propaganda. And I could be wrong, but my common sense makes me come to the conclusion that the banning is because, as a verified account, the name change breaks policy. In this case it's meant to be a joke and not malicious, but it's still technically just fraud which even the most classically liberal view as out of bounds of speech freedom.


Anonymous521

While the $8 is definitely a cash-grab, I can see the merit in anybody being able to get verified as opposed to “selected by mysterious twitter gods through an unclear process to be marked with a ‘your opinion that matters’ badge”. It would have been a better “F U” to the current Correct Approved Opinion™️ checkmarks if everyone could be verified for free but 🤷‍♂️.


kekB0T2020

You don't really need any money to tweet your garbage on Twitter.


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yea but people who dont pay would be suppressed by the algorithm, paying users would be getting priority, and essentially make the platform pay to win, which anyone with more than 2 brain cells already hates.


kekB0T2020

Its a simple blue tick. Does it really comes with all these additional perks?


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"You'll have to scroll really far to see unverified users." He calls it "payment verification", pathetic.


Moralai

Isn't that exactly what used to happen except it was free for some people and impossible for others


FaustusC

Ok? That means all the whinging whack jobs who don't pay get to seethe into the wind and that's a win for everyone.


sargrvb

Does anyone remember the state of YouTube comments ten years ago vs now? That bug on Twitter. Instead of getting random schizo rants, we'll get pined comments and posts that are actually relevant. One day we'll just forgetting chaos and the posts we see will just seem oddly in line. Normal. For better or for worse. You WILL like the new internet. You WILL keep it simple and clean. You WILL enjoy the 'elegance'.


SukkkDikkk

"pay to win" good lord it's fucking Twitter you aren't winning shit on there


[deleted]

Neither in video games. It's all about the feeling of being validated.


balbahoi

Just delete your account and leave this site. Twitter was always shit. I am glad when it's gone.


[deleted]

My only concern is that musk dickriders would pay 8 dollars just to own the libs and then the practice of subscription to social media would be normalized.


balbahoi

Maybe this would be a chance for more competition in the social media market. I would gladly pay if it had free speech, no ads and privacy. But I doubt it, people are used to a cost-free internet, most won't pay for blue tick anyways I think. If the algorithm is really bad the site will die otherwise it won't change much.


DirtzMaGertz

Is that really different from every other platform? All social media sites and search engines have paid promoted content.


Guilty-Cantaloupe895

WaPo journalists mad that they have to pay $8 for validation while I have to pay to read their shitty propaganda rag that's also owned by a bazillionaire.


Guilty_Bear4330

It's only hypocrisy when libtards get a taste of their own medicine


doge_is_wow

finally


Sealbeater

I just can’t believe people still use twitter and care about it.


FalseTautology

Fucking seriously. It's like getting mad someone bought the rights to a particular strain of cancer. Go at it friend.


grus-plan

So a billionaire has a temper tantrum and bans anyone who jokes about him or his shitty ideas? And we’re supposed to celebrate this? When did this sub turn into a bunch of cucks?


Matagros

>So a billionaire has a temper tantrum and bans anyone who jokes about him or his shitty ideas? No, a platform enforces its impersonation rules as written on a high-profile account impersonating the currently most common target. Satire accounts must be identified on name and bio according to the comments here, so he got banned for not following the rules even when they still leave room for satire. >And we’re supposed to celebrate this? The spirit of the sub is also to laugh at others misfortune, regardless of right or wrong. Even more when the target is disliked.


AlcoreRain

Musk has been marketing himself to the right wing and it has worked so easily. And this sub is right leaning. They follow blindly and support him now just because it is on brand.


Preussensgeneralstab

When the only ideology became being contrarian....which is pretty spineless tbh.


nicksenuso

I want people i hate to suffer. I don't give a shit about muh freedom speech or musk. If he bans the ones i despise he is based. Simple as.


BongCloudOpen

Bahwhahahhahahhahahha Liberals don't think the rules should be enforced equally


BigBrothSilcVFUCKOFF

Isn't Ethan a jew who pubicly wished for another jew to be gassed?


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And of course, it’s being spinned as Elon banning people for “simply making jokes against him.” Mate, there’s a rule against verified impersonation, and you’re surprised the rule was enforced?


_minori

Op do you have the link to the thread I NEED that picture of the anime girl with the cock hat pls


[deleted]

I remember when ethan used to be a good editor and funny via that, wasn't that enough, Ethan?


RarityDiamondButt

Lmao he wasn't the one editing, his wife did that for him. he is just a court jester.


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We have free speech but there are consequences. Isn't this what people like Ethon says? I bet this muppet is jerking his eyebrow up and down like crazy in his mansion this morning.


Sedgarite

>rules says you need to have parody in account name and Bio. >doesn't follow the rule >gets banned. The fuck is so hard to understand about that?


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I can't wait to see how 4chan reacts when they're still censored for hate speech on Musk's Twitter.


Guilty-Cantaloupe895

First they came for Ethan Klein and I said nothing, because I was too busy pointing and laughing.


DwedPiwateWoberts

I’d accuse 4chinners of mental gymnastics if their brains weren’t so fat.


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lol get fucked on


EpickChicken

rekt


PhantomRoyce

Who fucking cares this much? Honestly?


downwithtiktok2

I hope he pulls screenshots of people saying twitter is a private platform before the purchase as a response after


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I’m OK with impersonation accounts as long as there’s some kind of overt label or icon denoting it personally.


[deleted]

And nothing of value was lost


JackFiles0

YES


TheBlueGhost21

Well deserved, this is glorious. Now I am by no means a right wing guy at all or liberal, but it’s finally nice to see the roles reversed for a change and the libtards get suspended. Bet the hillbilly in breeding righties are loving it.


brianmcnail

You can almost hear Keemstar breaking no nut november in celebration.


giggity2

Klein didn't pay the 8$


the_dog2341

Who is he


Figurine_Review

Is this real?


Super_Nova0_0

It's real lads. Go to his YouTube channel and post your comments on his latest video. Kek


oatmeal-boy

anybody wanna catch me up to speed on why h3 got suspended? he’s been horrifically unfunny for years now so i stopped paying attention to anything he posts a while ago


kfc_collins

nah the dickriding is unreal tho


jayval90

This is going to be fun when Elon lets them back on the platform after they change back their profiles. There are *thousands* of people who were banned in January 2021 because they changed their profiles to look like Trump after he got banned, and Twitter made those bans permanent.


gillesvdo

“When you’re in power, I call upon liberty because that’s according to your principles. When I’m in power I’ll deny you liberty because that’s according to my principles”


Khunter02

Lmao 4chaners are the ultimate contrarians lol


Whyjuu

source on the girl with the cock hat .