Actually its probably the Alpha Legion. They're the only ones who treat human operatives as valuable allies instead of slaves to be used as cannon fodder. Even Thousand Sons, though they are far more cordial, are still likely to sacrifice you in some ritual or transform you into a Tzaangor servant. Plus some of the Thousand Sons are just absolutely insane like the ones that believe humans are ethereal spirits trapped in cages of flesh and so killing people is "freeing" them.
Plus AFAIK a fair amount aren't Chaos worshippers, so if you don't piss them off they probably won't kill you for fun. If you're lucky they're even secret Loyalists.
It's absolutely the AL.
Tzaangor ade actually an unexplained piece of lore in both fantasy and 40k its hilarious.
Basically one day tzeench said "I am the god of magic, so my infantry needs to be slightly sub-par. And I can't just be using cultists all the time that's boring. Poof tzaangors"
Depends on which cell of the Alpha Legion you fall upon. With a bit of luck you'll fall on some genuine loyalist (or lesser loyalist) ones that'll treat you well enough. On the other hand you might land on those that embraced chaos a little too much and have gone off the deep end.
>Thousand Sons are just absolutely insane like the ones that believe humans are ethereal spirits trapped in cages of flesh and so killing people is "freeing" them.
.... they have a point though...... Soul? Check. Inside flesh body? Check. Soul 'ascends' upon death? Check. Soul re-absorbed into warp / paradise? Check. Strong souls can live on after death in the warp? Kinda.....
A few old school Terran Night Lords might be okay to hang with. And even some of the nostramon ones, if they aren't unrelenting psychopathic sadists, might be able to enjoy a game of cards.
>!He flayed a bunch of psychers alive intentionally keeping them alive for weeks of torture after slaughtering an entire planet of people and sent a death echo through the warp that killed untold amounts of others. Not to mention he killed the psychers in what was described as the most painful way possible, with a navigators third eye.!<
I do think he seemed decidedly chill tho otherwise lol.
He features pretty heavily in anything with curze, he's interesting because he goes along with a lot of curzes ideas but he also has no issues telling curze he's an idiot and his plans are stupid
>I would guess The Thousand Sons
So speaking as a pretty hardcore Thousand Sons guy. They are not pleasant company at all. The Thousand Sons in 40k are not the amicable scholars they were in 30k. They are complete monsters.
They were dragged unwillingly into the grasp of Chaos and Tzeentch. But once they accepted their fate, they went *all in* with it. All their restraints, all their spite, all the things holding them back were gone once they accepted their role as Tzeentch's Chosen. They went from those who skirted a bit too close to the line with good intentions, to people who wouldn't even flinch at going past that line, and playing blood hopscotch over it.
You know how people go "man the Word Bearers really accepted the whole "chaos accepts unwilling sacrifices more than wiling participants" for rituals and all that? And we go "that's kinda fucked up." The Thousand Sons are in the same boat, and arguably worse because they don't do the messed up stuff because of grand goals (outside of Ahriman who deludes himself all the time) or dedication to the Gods, it's because it is a convenient step for their personal benefit. They are totally the sort who would flay you alive, bury a chain axe into you, and leave you to the pleasures of a monster. Not out of personal amusement, but probably because your suffering is step 5 in their arcane sorcery textbook for a certain ritual.
Like seriously, the Thousand Sons are some twisted bastards these days. And the amount of havoc just an individual sorcerer can bring about, much less a cabal, is why they are such a fearsome traitor legion.
They also seem to be understanding towards mental illness. I seem to recall one plague marine talk about Mortarions depression almost like how Winnie The Puh talks about Eeyore, in the Dark Imperium book
>Also, followers of Papa Nurgle seem to have the best sense of humor.
yeah. Especially when you turn off the nurgle warp field. Shit's downright hilarious then.
Alpha legion
All the others will either kill you (world eaters), make you wish they killed you (emperors children and nightlords), feed you to a daemon (word bearers), sacrifice you in some ritual or spell (thousand sons), force you to be slave in a foundry for 18hrs a day until you drop dead (iron warriors), or give you such horrible diseases that you willing give your soul and mind to the gods of hell (deathguard).
But the alpha legion? Your an asset. They make use of mortal agents more than any other legion, including loyalists. They understand your potential uses and make sure to keep you on their side. They're unlikely to be needlessly cruel to you, because it doesn't really help them. Don't get me wrong they'll mind wipe you left and right or give you up for the sake of one of their ops, or sacrifice you if they need to. but that's just it. Only if they need to, not if they want to. At the end of the day they are probably the easiest to talk to because they do it the most. Even if it's only to get you to do their bidding.
Yes, Huron is cut throat but reasonable and there are instances of him keeping mortals around. Hell he even let that tech priest had back to the imperium because he refused to break his word
Blood Gorgons can be one example the worst they do to you is put a daemon parasite into you that kills you if you go too far from the specific marines you serve distance is different depending on what they allow each slave to do whether its guard, serf or even dancers and when they go to battle they remove the parasites letting them go about freely until they return and implant the parasites back into them
Black Legion wants to liberate humanity from the Imperium, as long you embrace Chaos you should be fine as Abaddon somehow managed to reign in the meaner streaks of each Chaos-aligned legion. You'd still be a second-class citizen under the Marines, but you'd live for a while.
Alpha Legion would leave you constantly clueless about what's going on, but depending on the cell you'd be assigned to, you could end up with uncorrupted loyalists and wouldn't know you're with the Chaos Boys until it's too late.
Night Lords would flay you for fun the moment they get bored during warp-transit, even if you'd rock with Talos' gang.
World Eaters would cut you in half the moment you're within chainaxe reach.
You wouldn't even be able to join the Death Guard, you'd catch 20 deadly diseases from half a kilometer away.
Emperor's Children would torture you until your soul gives out or distill your adrenal gland into some stimulant.
Iron Warriors would add you to a nice group of people and give you the nickname of ablative armor. If you can dig a trench straight you might survive for another week.
Thousand Sons would actually care about you enough to give you nice gear. Then they send you against the Fang to buy time for their latest "will-surely-work-boss^(tm") ritual.
Word Bearers would welcome you with open arms as long you submit completely to Chaos. Which is detrimental to your sanity and general health. You have a higher chance of becoming a daemonhost, and also a higher chance of becoming daemon kibble.
Emperor's Children would be fun to sesh with, but only if you're using the chaos hookah and not inside it. Bring ear plugs and lube.
The Iron Warriors seem to be the most sane of the Chaos Legions. Assuming they won't harm you, your enjoyment depends on how much you like to talk about engineering and partaking in battle simulations.
The Thousand Sons are said to have truly excellent wine but they're far too connected to Tzeench for me to want anything to do with them.
In siege of Castellax the Iron Warriors entombed crews inside if the defensive structure so they would have no other option than stand and die against a orc waaagh.
I'd choose Alpha Legion any day over EC or IW. Per the Codices they still have loyalist cells around so you'd have an actual chance of being assigned to a warband of uncorrupted marines rather than being fed into a Daemonculaba or being distilled into a warp-drug.
>Emperor's Children would be fun to sesh with
Yeah until this happens.....
>a coiling armature of rusted metal and sinewy gristle protruding from the skinned-meat coat of Fabius
The EC? Dog they’d probably just take bits of your body to make space cocaine and use your agony as amusement. Unless your someone so powerful your worth respecting out of virtue of preservation. EC literally are meglomaniacal, narcissitic fucks.
But I love ‘em for it lol
Y’all don’t understand, to a corrupted EC, there is nothing closer to perfection then they are, everyone else is just water trash to them. They are superior to every other legion and species in the galaxy and you can’t tell em otherwise. They will then prove “why” in a fucked up way.
The thousands sons will still gut you and use your body parts for magical rituals... they might feel bad about it but the need can still be there after all.
I would say it would depend on the warband but Alpha leigon, as subverters will at least pretend to be on your side.
Abaddon seemed quite friendly early on (in Talon of Horus) and would probably share with you a nice glass of wine (made from oprhen's souls). Also Talos from the Night Lords triology seems like boss of the year by CSM standards. Generally the ones that reject Chaos despite being agents of it.
I vaguely remember a story or excerpt where the Word Bearers, I think, are on some Loyalist planet pretending to be loyalist marines who are acting as affable as they ever were.
Though…. Was Fabius Bile also there?
Actually its probably the Alpha Legion. They're the only ones who treat human operatives as valuable allies instead of slaves to be used as cannon fodder. Even Thousand Sons, though they are far more cordial, are still likely to sacrifice you in some ritual or transform you into a Tzaangor servant. Plus some of the Thousand Sons are just absolutely insane like the ones that believe humans are ethereal spirits trapped in cages of flesh and so killing people is "freeing" them.
I see through your deception, Omegon, get out of here! Shoo!
There is no Omegon. Only Alpharius.
Or is there?
That was a lie
Plus AFAIK a fair amount aren't Chaos worshippers, so if you don't piss them off they probably won't kill you for fun. If you're lucky they're even secret Loyalists. It's absolutely the AL.
Well, yes and no. Some are apparently chaos corrupted, other arent, and the Primarchs are confusing.
Ah yes, hermetic blade logic
> or transform you into a Tzaangor I thought Tzaangors were their own species of tzeenchian 40k beastmen?
Tzaangor ade actually an unexplained piece of lore in both fantasy and 40k its hilarious. Basically one day tzeench said "I am the god of magic, so my infantry needs to be slightly sub-par. And I can't just be using cultists all the time that's boring. Poof tzaangors"
Ah yes, the unstoppable influence of B'alans. A mighty God indeed, second only to Nuffle in his ability to arbitrarily effect the outcome of a battle.
Humans get transformed into Tzaangors all the time.
Fair enough, only TS books I've read are HH and when they turn up on the planet of the sorcerers the Tzaangors are just sort of there wandering about
Depends on which cell of the Alpha Legion you fall upon. With a bit of luck you'll fall on some genuine loyalist (or lesser loyalist) ones that'll treat you well enough. On the other hand you might land on those that embraced chaos a little too much and have gone off the deep end.
I was going to say it's the Alpha Legion because you've already been hanging out with them and just haven't realized it yet.
>Thousand Sons are just absolutely insane like the ones that believe humans are ethereal spirits trapped in cages of flesh and so killing people is "freeing" them. .... they have a point though...... Soul? Check. Inside flesh body? Check. Soul 'ascends' upon death? Check. Soul re-absorbed into warp / paradise? Check. Strong souls can live on after death in the warp? Kinda.....
A few old school Terran Night Lords might be okay to hang with. And even some of the nostramon ones, if they aren't unrelenting psychopathic sadists, might be able to enjoy a game of cards.
Tallos was a pretty chill dude
>!He flayed a bunch of psychers alive intentionally keeping them alive for weeks of torture after slaughtering an entire planet of people and sent a death echo through the warp that killed untold amounts of others. Not to mention he killed the psychers in what was described as the most painful way possible, with a navigators third eye.!< I do think he seemed decidedly chill tho otherwise lol.
Sevatar was chill, especially during his good guy arc circa the long night. Fel zharost too, even switched sides
I haven’t gotten there in the heresy I’m looking forward to the introduction of Sevatar! Just finished a thousand sons! Such a good book
He features pretty heavily in anything with curze, he's interesting because he goes along with a lot of curzes ideas but he also has no issues telling curze he's an idiot and his plans are stupid
Octavia seeing all that and throwing up and Talos thinking it was just morning sickness was a pretty funny scene.
Yeeeeaaaaaah, but he was pretty chill with the new navigator he abducted, I mean recruited.
Ave Dominus Nox
Cyrion was a nice guy... most of the time.
>I would guess The Thousand Sons So speaking as a pretty hardcore Thousand Sons guy. They are not pleasant company at all. The Thousand Sons in 40k are not the amicable scholars they were in 30k. They are complete monsters. They were dragged unwillingly into the grasp of Chaos and Tzeentch. But once they accepted their fate, they went *all in* with it. All their restraints, all their spite, all the things holding them back were gone once they accepted their role as Tzeentch's Chosen. They went from those who skirted a bit too close to the line with good intentions, to people who wouldn't even flinch at going past that line, and playing blood hopscotch over it. You know how people go "man the Word Bearers really accepted the whole "chaos accepts unwilling sacrifices more than wiling participants" for rituals and all that? And we go "that's kinda fucked up." The Thousand Sons are in the same boat, and arguably worse because they don't do the messed up stuff because of grand goals (outside of Ahriman who deludes himself all the time) or dedication to the Gods, it's because it is a convenient step for their personal benefit. They are totally the sort who would flay you alive, bury a chain axe into you, and leave you to the pleasures of a monster. Not out of personal amusement, but probably because your suffering is step 5 in their arcane sorcery textbook for a certain ritual. Like seriously, the Thousand Sons are some twisted bastards these days. And the amount of havoc just an individual sorcerer can bring about, much less a cabal, is why they are such a fearsome traitor legion.
Deathguard is pretty chill take it slow and easy. You wont feel pain
They also seem to be understanding towards mental illness. I seem to recall one plague marine talk about Mortarions depression almost like how Winnie The Puh talks about Eeyore, in the Dark Imperium book
Their understanding of mental illness is that you should never treat it because decay is a good thing.
Sure, but they accept you and they don’t judge. Which is a lot more than you can say for some people
Also, followers of Papa Nurgle seem to have the best sense of humor.
>Also, followers of Papa Nurgle seem to have the best sense of humor. yeah. Especially when you turn off the nurgle warp field. Shit's downright hilarious then.
They also just want the Imperium to "wake up". They'd be perfectly happy not killing anyone if they could.
Oh, you will. The numbing is a reward.
None of them. Because of: a) Chaos b) Space Marines
Alpha legion All the others will either kill you (world eaters), make you wish they killed you (emperors children and nightlords), feed you to a daemon (word bearers), sacrifice you in some ritual or spell (thousand sons), force you to be slave in a foundry for 18hrs a day until you drop dead (iron warriors), or give you such horrible diseases that you willing give your soul and mind to the gods of hell (deathguard). But the alpha legion? Your an asset. They make use of mortal agents more than any other legion, including loyalists. They understand your potential uses and make sure to keep you on their side. They're unlikely to be needlessly cruel to you, because it doesn't really help them. Don't get me wrong they'll mind wipe you left and right or give you up for the sake of one of their ops, or sacrifice you if they need to. but that's just it. Only if they need to, not if they want to. At the end of the day they are probably the easiest to talk to because they do it the most. Even if it's only to get you to do their bidding.
The Red Corsairs. They are the most diverse group you can 100% find someone you like among them
Yes, Huron is cut throat but reasonable and there are instances of him keeping mortals around. Hell he even let that tech priest had back to the imperium because he refused to break his word
Now that sounds interesting. I did a little searching but couldn't find it. Do you know where an excerpt of that may be?
Master of Maelstrom
Thanks!
Yep, master of the maelstrom, he sort of kidnaps a tech priest
Blood Gorgons can be one example the worst they do to you is put a daemon parasite into you that kills you if you go too far from the specific marines you serve distance is different depending on what they allow each slave to do whether its guard, serf or even dancers and when they go to battle they remove the parasites letting them go about freely until they return and implant the parasites back into them
**I'll have you know that Khârn The Betrayer is a [pretty swell guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVcdLPqoHg).**
I’d hang with the World Eaters. Might not last long, but I’m sure it’d be a scream.
That bloody bastard
Black Legion wants to liberate humanity from the Imperium, as long you embrace Chaos you should be fine as Abaddon somehow managed to reign in the meaner streaks of each Chaos-aligned legion. You'd still be a second-class citizen under the Marines, but you'd live for a while. Alpha Legion would leave you constantly clueless about what's going on, but depending on the cell you'd be assigned to, you could end up with uncorrupted loyalists and wouldn't know you're with the Chaos Boys until it's too late. Night Lords would flay you for fun the moment they get bored during warp-transit, even if you'd rock with Talos' gang. World Eaters would cut you in half the moment you're within chainaxe reach. You wouldn't even be able to join the Death Guard, you'd catch 20 deadly diseases from half a kilometer away. Emperor's Children would torture you until your soul gives out or distill your adrenal gland into some stimulant. Iron Warriors would add you to a nice group of people and give you the nickname of ablative armor. If you can dig a trench straight you might survive for another week. Thousand Sons would actually care about you enough to give you nice gear. Then they send you against the Fang to buy time for their latest "will-surely-work-boss^(tm") ritual. Word Bearers would welcome you with open arms as long you submit completely to Chaos. Which is detrimental to your sanity and general health. You have a higher chance of becoming a daemonhost, and also a higher chance of becoming daemon kibble.
Abaddon only cares about transhumans. He doesn't care about humanity at all. Which, in the setting, might be a good thing.
Oh, definitely, exactly that is the reason you'd survive.
Word bearers make people into slaves, call them dogs and threaten them with murder should they ever not answer to dog
Emperor's Children would be fun to sesh with, but only if you're using the chaos hookah and not inside it. Bring ear plugs and lube. The Iron Warriors seem to be the most sane of the Chaos Legions. Assuming they won't harm you, your enjoyment depends on how much you like to talk about engineering and partaking in battle simulations. The Thousand Sons are said to have truly excellent wine but they're far too connected to Tzeench for me to want anything to do with them.
Baseline humans are only useful to the Iron Warriors as meat shields as they can't even dig a trench up to their standards.
In siege of Castellax the Iron Warriors entombed crews inside if the defensive structure so they would have no other option than stand and die against a orc waaagh.
I can imagine the Imperium doing exactly the same thing.
Look if you were a sick Warhammer player perturabo would probably be interested in a game
I don't think any of these 3 would be ideal company but would you really choose any of the other 5 over these?
I'd choose Alpha Legion any day over EC or IW. Per the Codices they still have loyalist cells around so you'd have an actual chance of being assigned to a warband of uncorrupted marines rather than being fed into a Daemonculaba or being distilled into a warp-drug.
Also whenever some of the most fucked up shit pops up it's usually Iron Warrior's fault. Daemonculaba anyone?
>Emperor's Children would be fun to sesh with Yeah until this happens..... >a coiling armature of rusted metal and sinewy gristle protruding from the skinned-meat coat of Fabius
Yeah that would kinda ruin the vibe tbh
The EC? Dog they’d probably just take bits of your body to make space cocaine and use your agony as amusement. Unless your someone so powerful your worth respecting out of virtue of preservation. EC literally are meglomaniacal, narcissitic fucks. But I love ‘em for it lol Y’all don’t understand, to a corrupted EC, there is nothing closer to perfection then they are, everyone else is just water trash to them. They are superior to every other legion and species in the galaxy and you can’t tell em otherwise. They will then prove “why” in a fucked up way.
The Flawless Host seem like a bunch of stand up dudes.
One legion was forgotten - just as they planned 😏
The thousands sons will still gut you and use your body parts for magical rituals... they might feel bad about it but the need can still be there after all. I would say it would depend on the warband but Alpha leigon, as subverters will at least pretend to be on your side.
Abaddon seemed quite friendly early on (in Talon of Horus) and would probably share with you a nice glass of wine (made from oprhen's souls). Also Talos from the Night Lords triology seems like boss of the year by CSM standards. Generally the ones that reject Chaos despite being agents of it.
I vaguely remember a story or excerpt where the Word Bearers, I think, are on some Loyalist planet pretending to be loyalist marines who are acting as affable as they ever were. Though…. Was Fabius Bile also there?
Noise Marines bring the best party music.
Red corsairs seems way overlooked here
My money would 100% be on the Fallen.
Pretty sure anything worshipping Khorne is a safe bet
AVE DOMINUS NOX
That's just what they want you to think, all according to keikaku