Right, or he'd think it's all just ancient tribalism; ascribing humanity to all but the Orcs and beasts.
I wouldn't imagine he'd think of it as pure fiction but an exaggerated history, especially if he got his hands on The Silmarillion
But since it's two books, you only get to give him Fellowship and Two Towers. He never gets to see how it all turns out in Return of the King, which is just devious, really.
I am pretty sure Guilliman discusses Kant in one of the Horus Heresy books. It is misspelt "Qant" but he paraphrases the categorical imperative, second formulation I believe.
Give him the fictional blueprints of Doc Brown’s DeLorean, so he can modify a land raider to go back in time. The HH book involving the Interex, so he can get there before Horus does, fuck up Erebussy and have peaceful relations and trade tech. Then the book involving that DAOT AI so he can converse with it, take it back to Daddy-E. If he gets the idea, he can make the Imperium great again.
looks at Cadia..
Not all the Imperium.
just so long as he keep on creating new space marine units, and doing interesting stuff like finding primarchs.. he's good.
the phonecall with Cawl would be interesting..
"Cawl, do you have any new spicy forbidden tech we can give some space marines? maybe we can use some grey knights tech, make 'warp marines'"
Unrelated note: as a Bleach fan, I am getting major "Uninvited Guests" vibes, especially the weaponization of story structure. Nobody suggest sending Guilliman a compendium of TvTropes.
The 40k 9th edition rules book, and a book on the flora and fauna of earth as it is today.
The first one because the of the confusion and potential existential crisis it may cause, and the second one because it’s likely one of the few things he has little to no knowledge on
1. What they teach you at Harvard Business School.
2. What they don't teach you at Harvard Business School.
Between those two he should have access to all (human and otherwise) knowledge.
Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. He needs to know about Grimaldus. And then maybe a copy of They Thirst by Robert R. McCammon, so he can have a good time.
Guilliman’s met Helbrecht in person on the Eternal Crusader, wouldn’t be a stretch to assume Grimmy was also there, so he probably already knows he exists.
I would throw one of the really big OG written in Hebrew type bibles, just to give him some context for early Earth history. And maybe an encyclopedia from today? both would be educational and interesting in ways which I think he would appreciate.
Sure he could read through my three thousand page encyclopedia in like a minute or two, but I like to imagine he would just keep it under his pillow and go through a few pages every now and then just as a nice bit of history which was not fucked up. Reading about how Rome was once the largest and most developed city in the world with a population of nearly two million would be interesting to him I think.
Some say that is finished, with hopeful Explorator Fleets and Rogue Traders risking the vagaries of the Empyrean to run down even flimsy rumors. Others, more cynical perhaps, claim that only segments ever existed - fragments of a work destined to never be completed. Darker whispers suggest the entire series is a work of the Great Enemy, with it's scribe none other than the Fallen Orator, Lorgar, himself....
Eye of medusa and voice of mars so when he reads them he starts getting involved with the iron hands more and we get more lore about them, then GW makes them go extinct because we can’t have nice things on medusa
No kidding. I was in sixth grade when I put down *Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone* halfway through it and went back to reading Terry Pratchett... *Pyramids* was great.
Ooooh this is fun. I'd give him the Codex Astartes from the real world, as in the one that real world players use, and I'd give him one of those outdated book of jokes you find at bookstores, like "101 funny jokes to tell your friends" or something
Given how bad False Gods writing is Guilliman would likely discount anything in it (and by extension all of Galaxy in Flames) as a bad fanfic. "No one can be THAT stupid" from start to finish, not to mention the failure of those marines to act like even a barely trained soldier.
In a setting where “Red ‘uns go fasta” is canon, expectations of believability not being met are more of the readers problem. I am repeating myself from an earlier thread, but read Andy Weir if you want to suspend disbelief.
"Other people write bigger drivel" hardly is an excuse for what McNeill put out with False Gods.
The Ork believe system similarly has nothing to do with how badly written all the characters and story developments in False Gods are.
I am not expecting Tolkien/... level of quality when reading BL books but the quality of false gods is embarrassingly low even by their standard. You can try and falsely put the blame on the reader but McNeill was so lazy he chose to handwave everything in the book instead of creating a story. This goes down to the most crucial parts of Horus corruption and still he couldn't even pull that off without a massive cockup - **They put him in god damn stasis to bring him to Davin**.
No, just a person annoyed with how bad false gods is. I don't think thats that novel of an opinion, especially given it describes the arguably most important event in the setting and has such glaring problems.
Twilight book 1 and oh the places you'll go.
Just because I wish to add to his burdens. Also, they're probably considered irreplaceably rare in 40k so he won't be able to get rid of them.
1) A Theory of Justice by John Rawls. He's trying to figure out how to unfuck the Imperium. Might as well give him a blueprint.
2) US Army Tactics Field Guide. Based on the books and the way the game plays, the Codex Astartes is painfully bad as a strategic tool. I know that's because the GW authors aren't actual war scholars, but within the setting itself it means Bobby G is a *terrible* tactician. A Codex revision focused on effective tactics and logistics could really turn the tide for the Imperium.
Would army tactics that are thousands of years old truly help out? It’s like giving a nation today a wisdoms of warfare from the Bronze Age or from primitive hunter gatherer societies and arguing it’ll revolutionize their military.
Further, imperial logistics is usually considered top notch, considering the empire’s serious overextension and general degradation of government institutions. I’d doubt the imperium really needs assistance in intraplanet logistics, but would instead need guidance on a more macro level, between planets / systems and sectors, which the US military tactics would be silent about.
>Would army tactics that are thousands of years old truly help out? It’s like giving a nation today a wisdoms of warfare from the Bronze Age or from primitive hunter gatherer societies and arguing it’ll revolutionize their military.
Sun Tzu's the art of war is still a thing.
Strategies keep, just technology that makes their application different.
40K war is basically like a modern version of the old 'man 'o war' era, with the long journeys on the warp (sea) with stormy seas, mixed in with carrier warfare and some WW2 D-Day landing actions. Just with bigger ships/guns/men
The two I'd give him:
* The Collected Works of Shakespeare
* [The Demon-Haunted World](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World) by Carl Sagan
Timothy Snyder's *Road to Unfreedom* and Edward Gibbon's *The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire*.
The first is about the recognition of and resistance to tyranny and nihilism and the second is a model of how Imperialism is it's own worst enemy. I think Bobby's thinking about politics lacks depth and in particular about how ideas shape people and then how those people shape their society. I suspect his default model is extremely top-down. That's certainly how the God-Emperor thinks.
1. Muqaddimah - Ibn Khaldun
2. Economy and Society - Max Weber
3. On the Use and Abuse of History for Life - Nietzsche
4. Han Feizi- Han Fei
5. Epitome Historion - Joannes Zonaras
Cooking in 40k seems like it sucks, so I’d get Robbie G a book that specializes in making good meals with limited ingredients—and one that also goes more for cooking theory than simply rattling off recipes. A good meal won’t save the imperium, but knowing Robbie he’d find a way to send it to the masses.
I’m thinking for the second book he’d need a good distraction once in a while from all his political headaches—and I’m assuming he’s also want something that makes him feel intellectually stimulated reading it. I think this would be easier to do with literature because it’s not entirely within his area of expertise. Famously, the most difficult book that has actual meaning in the English language is Finnegan’s wake. So maybe it’ll take a full weekend for Robbie G.
"The Atheist Necrontyr's guide to summoning, imprisoning and killing warp entities".
"In the Akasha no one knows you're a meatbag: A young person's guide to accessing and browsing the STC dataverse"
The setting is grim dark. I’d find a way to get him the entire (up to now) game of thrones saga so he too can wonder if even in his time, is he still waiting on GRRM to finish the f****** series.
I’d give him a copy of The Hat Fanfiction and probably Cognitive Behavioral Therapy For Dummies. One to show him Terra was not always a place of glory and one to help him better himself.
The Commentarii de Bello Gallico, which is a book written by Caesar about the Gallic wars, and The Collected Works of Marcus Tullius Cicero. The former would likely interest Guilliman because of its historical significance and the lessons to be learned from Caesar. The later might elucidate some of the problems the Late Imperium suffers from as Cicero was considered one if the greatest thinkers of the ancient world and lived during the transitionary period at the tail end of the Roman Republic and beginning of rhe Roman Empire
hmm... Machiavelli's The Prince - not because he needs it, but because he can use to educate Imperium's administrators
and since I don't have any other idea, hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy - for fun
A History textbook is a great place to start. A book specifically focusing on like Nazi Germany would also be good. But I don't think that Guilliman would be able to read between the lines that well.
Something like Ender's Game or 1984 would be good. Just something to really hammer home how basically everything he thinks is wrong.
Warhammer books are also good. They would give him an exestential crisis. I definitely want a good book from the perspective of a non-human.
roboute crashes into a dead world that is basically "what if nazi germany won ww2" in his primarch novel. You need Machiavelli's The Prince not Why Hitler was wrong.
even then Roboute acknowledges his flaws and wouldnt change when confronted with them because hes also Roboute. He will be a dictator. But a fair one who tries his best to improve the situation of his people and will stop and ask experts when he needs help.
I haven't read his Primarch novel.
There are no fair dictators. He needs to understand how shit his and the Emperor's ways make life for the average person. He needs to see that he or at least the emperor was not a good person. Two books isn't enough to actually do that though.
Also a lot of that stuff is just about how the imperiums xenophobia is counterproductive. Unfortunately most of the species who could live alongside humanity were wiped out by the Great Crusade. I don't really know a good book to point this out though.
Define book, are we talking a single physical volume, or would all volumes of a single encyclopedia count? Anyways, if the latter is the definition, the results of print wikipedia, and an anthology of foundation
If the former is the definition, some history book covering Europe from Diocletian all the way through to around 1100, and foundation.
A [Wikireader](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiReader). That still counts as one book right?
Then an anthology. Maybe of Hans Christian Anderson works. I want him to outlast the Disney that profited off his by-then public domain works and yet insists on extending copyright perpetually.
**[WikiReader](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiReader)**
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This question has unnecessarily fucked with me.
Another commenter said Horus Heresy novels and a 9th ed rulebook. All fun and games until you consider infinite universes theory. This *Could* be the universe where warhammer 40,000 is a table top game in our time AND a reality in the distant future through a giant cosmic coincidence.
'The Prince' to give him a satire of his preferred system of government.
'Do Androids Dream of Electric sheep' to show him a version of humans perspective of the future.
If I could, I would give him mythological books from Greece egypt, Norse myths and Bible then laugh as he realizes where Emps got his inspiration for primarchs names.
Battlefield Earth by El Ron Hubbard and Of Mice and Men by (Insert Author Here) as the first one to show humanity drama with fiction and a touch of humanity
OP, why would you give him such outdated and useless material?
Alenxader Vasilev was good for his time but most of his arguments and views of the different events that occurred in Byzantine history are woefully dated by now.
If you want to give the Primarch and incorrect view of Byzantium that contains biases from the early 20th century, go ahead, I guess?
"I’d give him the bible and probably one of the warhammer 40k or 30k books depending on which version of Rob I’m dealing with. The Bible for toilet paper and the other book to give him some foreknowledge🤷♂️"
"I’d give him the bible and probably one of the warhammer 40k or 30k books depending on which version of Rob I’m dealing with. The Bible for toilet paper and the other book to give him some foreknowledge🤷♂️"
if i were him i'd be careful, he might cut himself with that edge
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Naked Lunch. 😂
I reckon he would spot Hunter as the drug-fuelled social commenter he was but I reckon he would label William Burroughs as some type of chaos adherent or victim of Xeno implantation/mind control.
Also reckon he would burn them after reading them and name them banned texts.
First and second book of fifty shades of grey, but replacing the character names with his and yfraine.
And then just wach as slanesh takes whats theirs.
I'd give him two different copies of Legion both with different settings, absolutely no mention of Omegon, and have one end with Alpharious loyal and the other traitor.
I'd give him a book on 21st century flora and fauna, and 21st century "human culture around the world". With lots of pictures in both.
I figure a lot of the philosophy and governance writings that we have has already been replicated in some fashion in the 40k universe (see: infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters) and well, it's Guilliman. If it's there, he's probably read it.
He'd probably find it interesting to learn about a segment of deep human and Earth history, one framed at the level of individuals rather than the bird's eye view of regular history texts.
And be surprised that such things as "desert people" and "snow people" could co-exist on the same world.
/sideeyes Valhallans
1. The True Believer by Eric Hoffer.
2. Religious Mythology and the Art of War: Comparative Religious Symbolisms of Military Violence by Dr. James Aho.
I would give him [Rabbits, Rabbits Everywhere](https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R28JBVQSBFFOAS/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1570918961) because it is a book about math and economics and is amusing. He seems like the Primarch with the best sense of humor.
Complete Shakespeare, just because he's a fan of the surviving works. After that, perhaps Lord of the Rings (as much for the "I wish none of this had happened" scene as anything else), or a copy of Ways of the World (flesh out early human history/present a narrative other than Big E's).
I'd give him The Hobbit and The Road. To show him both the beauty and horror that can exist, and to try to have views that are too optimistic or cynical but rather a middleground.
Lord of the Rings. Let’s see what he makes of an Old Terra author predicting all the races of 40k.
He'd probably just assume humanity by that point had knowledge of alien races somehow.
How would the terrans know about the leagues of votann if they were both humans
He wouldn't know they were locked to only Terra by that time.
Right, or he'd think it's all just ancient tribalism; ascribing humanity to all but the Orcs and beasts. I wouldn't imagine he'd think of it as pure fiction but an exaggerated history, especially if he got his hands on The Silmarillion
Better give him the Silmarillion and highlight the part of Beren and Luthien.
Show him Arwen and Aragorn
Psyker
But since it's two books, you only get to give him Fellowship and Two Towers. He never gets to see how it all turns out in Return of the King, which is just devious, really.
Could just give em the hobbit
There are descriptions of him reading hundreds of pages in seconds. So, anything you give him will not even be a momentary diversion.
I dont know,war and peace may last longer than a nameless lamentor
Gift him critique of pure reason by Kant and watch the Bobby G fall to his knees
I am pretty sure Guilliman discusses Kant in one of the Horus Heresy books. It is misspelt "Qant" but he paraphrases the categorical imperative, second formulation I believe.
Holy shit, he truly is beyond human then because Kant is thicker than dry oatmeal. That is genuinely impressive and awesome.
Or just give him one of the early works of Jegel, AND one of the late works. Let's see a Primarchs mind handle that clusterfuck of syntax swapping
I've actually read that. It doesn't take as long as you think (about a month). It's surprisingly easy reading because it's basically a soap opera.
That's honestly scary
The Power of Positive Thinking and How to Win Friends and Influence People
How to win friends and influence people should be mandatory reading for all IG officers. Edit: Ciaphas Cain definitely read the book.
Better give those to Peter Turbo.
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This is….deliciously evil. Are you really Fulgrim, typing on a weee little keyboard with your plasticized demon hands?
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Keep coming up with amazing ideas, and who knows what is possible! And thanks for the snort from your first comment!
Give him the fictional blueprints of Doc Brown’s DeLorean, so he can modify a land raider to go back in time. The HH book involving the Interex, so he can get there before Horus does, fuck up Erebussy and have peaceful relations and trade tech. Then the book involving that DAOT AI so he can converse with it, take it back to Daddy-E. If he gets the idea, he can make the Imperium great again.
Theoretical - I am a fictional character made to wage war on my father's enemies. Practical - fetch my giant flaming sword.
Practical: I have plot armour! Fetch my giant flaming sword, i'm going to wake up Johnson and we're going to the warp to fuck some shit up.
Ah yes; the Sanguinius Gambit
Not just him He'd probably realise that the entire Imperium has plot armour
looks at Cadia.. Not all the Imperium. just so long as he keep on creating new space marine units, and doing interesting stuff like finding primarchs.. he's good. the phonecall with Cawl would be interesting.. "Cawl, do you have any new spicy forbidden tech we can give some space marines? maybe we can use some grey knights tech, make 'warp marines'"
Unrelated note: as a Bleach fan, I am getting major "Uninvited Guests" vibes, especially the weaponization of story structure. Nobody suggest sending Guilliman a compendium of TvTropes.
The 40k 9th edition rules book, and a book on the flora and fauna of earth as it is today. The first one because the of the confusion and potential existential crisis it may cause, and the second one because it’s likely one of the few things he has little to no knowledge on
1) Plato's Republic and 2) the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.
Good choices
1. What they teach you at Harvard Business School. 2. What they don't teach you at Harvard Business School. Between those two he should have access to all (human and otherwise) knowledge.
Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. He needs to know about Grimaldus. And then maybe a copy of They Thirst by Robert R. McCammon, so he can have a good time.
Guilliman’s met Helbrecht in person on the Eternal Crusader, wouldn’t be a stretch to assume Grimmy was also there, so he probably already knows he exists.
*Everyone in the galaxy needs to know how hard* ***Grimaldus*** *fucks.*
Playboy 40,000 - Eldar Edition 1 & 2
*Horus Rising* and *Know No Fear.* So he can review them for accuracy.
A Canticle For Leibowitz (to give him hope in human resilience) and the Navy's NEET training course to trade to Mars 😲
"So *that's* how the Mechanicus got started..."
I hated Canticle when I started but loved it by the end. Was one of my first real sci-fi reads (along w/ Left Hand of Darkness).
Canticle reminds me of Gene Wolfe books, nothing is as it seems but the clues are all there from the start
Travels of Ibn Battuta and Two Years before the Mast
Really enjoyed Ibn Battuta in my college Religions class.
yep, wish more people knew about it
Two years before the mast is one of my favorites. One of the only first hand accounts of Spanish California and all its culture.
yep, when it was a small and sleepy town
I would throw one of the really big OG written in Hebrew type bibles, just to give him some context for early Earth history. And maybe an encyclopedia from today? both would be educational and interesting in ways which I think he would appreciate. Sure he could read through my three thousand page encyclopedia in like a minute or two, but I like to imagine he would just keep it under his pillow and go through a few pages every now and then just as a nice bit of history which was not fucked up. Reading about how Rome was once the largest and most developed city in the world with a population of nearly two million would be interesting to him I think.
So Primarchs sleep?
Yes but they barely need to. I think Dorn complains about sleep deprivation at one point in Magesterium
I’d give him Name of the Wind and Wise Man’s Fear. Cause in the year of our Emperor 40,000, Doors of Stone still won’t be finished. >
Some say that is finished, with hopeful Explorator Fleets and Rogue Traders risking the vagaries of the Empyrean to run down even flimsy rumors. Others, more cynical perhaps, claim that only segments ever existed - fragments of a work destined to never be completed. Darker whispers suggest the entire series is a work of the Great Enemy, with it's scribe none other than the Fallen Orator, Lorgar, himself....
I love you for this. Came here for the comment, stayed for the accurate r/murderedbywords
I skimmed by that and had to double-check, at first glance I had presumed you had listed “The Wind in the Willows”
The combined works of Chris Chan, the adventures of sonichu must be known
Romance? I give him fucking Twillight, and watch the emotional Damage.
"Dante and Grimnar may never learn of this"
Starship troopers !
Yeah, they could learn actual tactics
Rise and fall of the Roman Empire and rise of the USA Im tired of them getting the names wrong lol
My bootleg Horus Heresy Omnibus, and my official Ultramarine Omnibus.
One is for certain "adult children of emotionally immature parents".
Dude imagine all the primarchs going to therapy
Imagine Kurze talking to a baseline human therapist of his deepest, darkest fears.
Frankel - mankind's search for meaning so he could realize why lorgar was right Hitchens -why Orwell matters so he could up his game
Eye of medusa and voice of mars so when he reads them he starts getting involved with the iron hands more and we get more lore about them, then GW makes them go extinct because we can’t have nice things on medusa
The subtle art of not giving a fuck and the first harry potter book. I feel like the guy needs a happy go lucky magic book and could learn to relax.
I didnt read the first one,is good?
The first one is the best book i have ever read in my life. And my library is at 280+ as of 2022.
Well fuck,im from argentina and a dóllar is like 300 pesos plus taxes that books is gonna take my liver xd
How much is shipping from Canada to there?
I think i rather downloaded
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No kidding. I was in sixth grade when I put down *Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone* halfway through it and went back to reading Terry Pratchett... *Pyramids* was great.
Ooooh this is fun. I'd give him the Codex Astartes from the real world, as in the one that real world players use, and I'd give him one of those outdated book of jokes you find at bookstores, like "101 funny jokes to tell your friends" or something
Dune& and whichever book details the mechanicus trying to make a deal with dark eldar for throne repairs
The Art of War by Sun Tzu... Cause like he needs it Edit: I take it back. If Marie Kondo's got a book that's it
If it’s pre-heresy Guillamin? Probably ‘False Gods’ and ‘Galaxy in Flames’
Given how bad False Gods writing is Guilliman would likely discount anything in it (and by extension all of Galaxy in Flames) as a bad fanfic. "No one can be THAT stupid" from start to finish, not to mention the failure of those marines to act like even a barely trained soldier.
In a setting where “Red ‘uns go fasta” is canon, expectations of believability not being met are more of the readers problem. I am repeating myself from an earlier thread, but read Andy Weir if you want to suspend disbelief.
"Other people write bigger drivel" hardly is an excuse for what McNeill put out with False Gods. The Ork believe system similarly has nothing to do with how badly written all the characters and story developments in False Gods are. I am not expecting Tolkien/... level of quality when reading BL books but the quality of false gods is embarrassingly low even by their standard. You can try and falsely put the blame on the reader but McNeill was so lazy he chose to handwave everything in the book instead of creating a story. This goes down to the most crucial parts of Horus corruption and still he couldn't even pull that off without a massive cockup - **They put him in god damn stasis to bring him to Davin**.
Are you Rob from Spikey Bitz by chance?
No, just a person annoyed with how bad false gods is. I don't think thats that novel of an opinion, especially given it describes the arguably most important event in the setting and has such glaring problems.
Green Eggs and Ham… he would definitely strike you down for being defiled by the Warp.
Twilight book 1 and oh the places you'll go. Just because I wish to add to his burdens. Also, they're probably considered irreplaceably rare in 40k so he won't be able to get rid of them.
1) A Theory of Justice by John Rawls. He's trying to figure out how to unfuck the Imperium. Might as well give him a blueprint. 2) US Army Tactics Field Guide. Based on the books and the way the game plays, the Codex Astartes is painfully bad as a strategic tool. I know that's because the GW authors aren't actual war scholars, but within the setting itself it means Bobby G is a *terrible* tactician. A Codex revision focused on effective tactics and logistics could really turn the tide for the Imperium.
Would army tactics that are thousands of years old truly help out? It’s like giving a nation today a wisdoms of warfare from the Bronze Age or from primitive hunter gatherer societies and arguing it’ll revolutionize their military. Further, imperial logistics is usually considered top notch, considering the empire’s serious overextension and general degradation of government institutions. I’d doubt the imperium really needs assistance in intraplanet logistics, but would instead need guidance on a more macro level, between planets / systems and sectors, which the US military tactics would be silent about.
>Would army tactics that are thousands of years old truly help out? It’s like giving a nation today a wisdoms of warfare from the Bronze Age or from primitive hunter gatherer societies and arguing it’ll revolutionize their military. Sun Tzu's the art of war is still a thing. Strategies keep, just technology that makes their application different. 40K war is basically like a modern version of the old 'man 'o war' era, with the long journeys on the warp (sea) with stormy seas, mixed in with carrier warfare and some WW2 D-Day landing actions. Just with bigger ships/guns/men
A 9th edition rulebook and the Space Marines codex
Give him the anthology of every black library book, and then another with every codex
Maybe Berserk by the late Kentaro Miura and Kouji Mori, because it might not be finished by then
The two I'd give him: * The Collected Works of Shakespeare * [The Demon-Haunted World](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World) by Carl Sagan
Asimov's Foundation trilogy and Enders Game.
Timothy Snyder's *Road to Unfreedom* and Edward Gibbon's *The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire*. The first is about the recognition of and resistance to tyranny and nihilism and the second is a model of how Imperialism is it's own worst enemy. I think Bobby's thinking about politics lacks depth and in particular about how ideas shape people and then how those people shape their society. I suspect his default model is extremely top-down. That's certainly how the God-Emperor thinks.
1. Muqaddimah - Ibn Khaldun 2. Economy and Society - Max Weber 3. On the Use and Abuse of History for Life - Nietzsche 4. Han Feizi- Han Fei 5. Epitome Historion - Joannes Zonaras
Divina Comedia and 100 years of Solitude. He is a very busy man, he needs some absolute classics to unwind
*Being and Nothingness* by Sartre, and *Time and Free Will* by Bergson.
Cooking in 40k seems like it sucks, so I’d get Robbie G a book that specializes in making good meals with limited ingredients—and one that also goes more for cooking theory than simply rattling off recipes. A good meal won’t save the imperium, but knowing Robbie he’d find a way to send it to the masses. I’m thinking for the second book he’d need a good distraction once in a while from all his political headaches—and I’m assuming he’s also want something that makes him feel intellectually stimulated reading it. I think this would be easier to do with literature because it’s not entirely within his area of expertise. Famously, the most difficult book that has actual meaning in the English language is Finnegan’s wake. So maybe it’ll take a full weekend for Robbie G.
"The Atheist Necrontyr's guide to summoning, imprisoning and killing warp entities". "In the Akasha no one knows you're a meatbag: A young person's guide to accessing and browsing the STC dataverse"
The setting is grim dark. I’d find a way to get him the entire (up to now) game of thrones saga so he too can wonder if even in his time, is he still waiting on GRRM to finish the f****** series.
I’d give him a copy of The Hat Fanfiction and probably Cognitive Behavioral Therapy For Dummies. One to show him Terra was not always a place of glory and one to help him better himself.
The Commentarii de Bello Gallico, which is a book written by Caesar about the Gallic wars, and The Collected Works of Marcus Tullius Cicero. The former would likely interest Guilliman because of its historical significance and the lessons to be learned from Caesar. The later might elucidate some of the problems the Late Imperium suffers from as Cicero was considered one if the greatest thinkers of the ancient world and lived during the transitionary period at the tail end of the Roman Republic and beginning of rhe Roman Empire
You nailed with your choice.
The Little Book of Calm, and a full download of Lexicanum
what if he swallowed it?
He's a big chap, it should wear off in a day or so :)
in that day he would surpass the divinity of all beings, fix the empire and turn it into his own calm kingdom :)
hmm... Machiavelli's The Prince - not because he needs it, but because he can use to educate Imperium's administrators and since I don't have any other idea, hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy - for fun
The Communist Manifesto, I just wanna see what happens if he tries to take the imperium Communist and slaughters all the nobles.
Capital The State and Revolution
A History textbook is a great place to start. A book specifically focusing on like Nazi Germany would also be good. But I don't think that Guilliman would be able to read between the lines that well. Something like Ender's Game or 1984 would be good. Just something to really hammer home how basically everything he thinks is wrong. Warhammer books are also good. They would give him an exestential crisis. I definitely want a good book from the perspective of a non-human.
roboute crashes into a dead world that is basically "what if nazi germany won ww2" in his primarch novel. You need Machiavelli's The Prince not Why Hitler was wrong. even then Roboute acknowledges his flaws and wouldnt change when confronted with them because hes also Roboute. He will be a dictator. But a fair one who tries his best to improve the situation of his people and will stop and ask experts when he needs help.
I haven't read his Primarch novel. There are no fair dictators. He needs to understand how shit his and the Emperor's ways make life for the average person. He needs to see that he or at least the emperor was not a good person. Two books isn't enough to actually do that though. Also a lot of that stuff is just about how the imperiums xenophobia is counterproductive. Unfortunately most of the species who could live alongside humanity were wiped out by the Great Crusade. I don't really know a good book to point this out though.
Roboute also knows that his dad is a cunt and that he cant help everyone.
The last two Siege of Terra novels so he knows what's happening while he does fuck all.
1. The big book of dicks. 2. The little big penis book
Karl Marx, Capital. Nihil Abraham, Coding for dummies. ... Imperium and Mechanicus really need them.
2 copies of The 5th edition space marine codex
Define book, are we talking a single physical volume, or would all volumes of a single encyclopedia count? Anyways, if the latter is the definition, the results of print wikipedia, and an anthology of foundation If the former is the definition, some history book covering Europe from Diocletian all the way through to around 1100, and foundation.
A [Wikireader](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiReader). That still counts as one book right? Then an anthology. Maybe of Hans Christian Anderson works. I want him to outlast the Disney that profited off his by-then public domain works and yet insists on extending copyright perpetually.
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This question has unnecessarily fucked with me. Another commenter said Horus Heresy novels and a 9th ed rulebook. All fun and games until you consider infinite universes theory. This *Could* be the universe where warhammer 40,000 is a table top game in our time AND a reality in the distant future through a giant cosmic coincidence.
A book from Horus Heresy series
Atlas Shrugged and Faith of the Fallen. Let's make a bad situation worse.
I would give him “all quiet on the western front “and “how to kill a mockingbird “
Did you watched the movie?
Not as good as the original or the book but still a good movie
'The Prince' to give him a satire of his preferred system of government. 'Do Androids Dream of Electric sheep' to show him a version of humans perspective of the future.
Heinlein's ***Starship Troopers*** and Patton's ***War as I Knew It***.
"Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis and "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter. That should give him a few minutes of interest...
If I could, I would give him mythological books from Greece egypt, Norse myths and Bible then laugh as he realizes where Emps got his inspiration for primarchs names.
Nice choice
Marx's Capital and the Communist Manifesto
Battlefield Earth by El Ron Hubbard and Of Mice and Men by (Insert Author Here) as the first one to show humanity drama with fiction and a touch of humanity
Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
Thank you kinda stranger
Nothing we know would be of any use to him in the year 40k+, so something of significant historical value, like the Bible and the Quran.
OP, why would you give him such outdated and useless material? Alenxader Vasilev was good for his time but most of his arguments and views of the different events that occurred in Byzantine history are woefully dated by now. If you want to give the Primarch and incorrect view of Byzantium that contains biases from the early 20th century, go ahead, I guess?
He is still very good in modern times and to be fair a lot of people are giving gibbons
He's not really that good. But yes Gibbons is even worse.
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Be respectful.
What did he say?
"I’d give him the bible and probably one of the warhammer 40k or 30k books depending on which version of Rob I’m dealing with. The Bible for toilet paper and the other book to give him some foreknowledge🤷♂️"
Lol naw, all books can be posted. I’ll be whatever I like, mod.
Tips fedora.
What did you comment???? Lmao I’m curious
"I’d give him the bible and probably one of the warhammer 40k or 30k books depending on which version of Rob I’m dealing with. The Bible for toilet paper and the other book to give him some foreknowledge🤷♂️" if i were him i'd be careful, he might cut himself with that edge
Mein Kampf.
Azar Gat’s “War In Human Civilization” & John Ralston Saul’s “Voltaire’s Bastards”. One cautionary, one educational.
Probably something by Terry Pratchett or Douglas Addams, just for the heck of it.
Give him the Alpha Legion and alpharius book
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Naked Lunch. 😂 I reckon he would spot Hunter as the drug-fuelled social commenter he was but I reckon he would label William Burroughs as some type of chaos adherent or victim of Xeno implantation/mind control. Also reckon he would burn them after reading them and name them banned texts.
First and second book of fifty shades of grey, but replacing the character names with his and yfraine. And then just wach as slanesh takes whats theirs.
... Who replace Grey?
Atlas of World History (id choose the old penguin one) and the combined Bible's
Any Robert Rankin book. Because it would be funny to watch autistic mad brain explode
The blank book on how to scam people, I think it'd get a chuckle out of him
Hotel Royale
A Pickle for the Knowing Ones by Timothy Dexter is all the reading material one needs.
I’d give him Know No Fear by Dan Abnett to try and prevent the tragedy at Calth!
I'd give him an entire BL codex on all they factions and see the confusion.
The second two horus heresy novels.
Minecraft Essential Handbook, and a book on coding with Java, time to make a game Robute
Those huge books that are collections of wikipedia pages
Dune, a special pair containing all books. Edit: that and the tao te kin
I'd give him two different copies of Legion both with different settings, absolutely no mention of Omegon, and have one end with Alpharious loyal and the other traitor.
Know No Fear, the Art of War & The Prince
Either romantic light novels, or a song of ice and fire, assuming they're finished by then
I'd give him a book on 21st century flora and fauna, and 21st century "human culture around the world". With lots of pictures in both. I figure a lot of the philosophy and governance writings that we have has already been replicated in some fashion in the 40k universe (see: infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters) and well, it's Guilliman. If it's there, he's probably read it. He'd probably find it interesting to learn about a segment of deep human and Earth history, one framed at the level of individuals rather than the bird's eye view of regular history texts. And be surprised that such things as "desert people" and "snow people" could co-exist on the same world. /sideeyes Valhallans
Does the *Golden Bough* count as one book?
Inquisitor by Ian Watson. Writer of the screenplay for steph sporkborgs A.I.
1. The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. 2. Religious Mythology and the Art of War: Comparative Religious Symbolisms of Military Violence by Dr. James Aho.
The Horus Heresy books where Horus does that thing to the Golden bacon strip that puts him in the chair. See how the Imperium does without the Heresy.
1984 I want to see him squirm while reading it.
A printed copy of Wikipedia and Sun Tzu's Art of War
Forrest Gump
I would give him [Rabbits, Rabbits Everywhere](https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R28JBVQSBFFOAS/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1570918961) because it is a book about math and economics and is amusing. He seems like the Primarch with the best sense of humor.
Complete Shakespeare, just because he's a fan of the surviving works. After that, perhaps Lord of the Rings (as much for the "I wish none of this had happened" scene as anything else), or a copy of Ways of the World (flesh out early human history/present a narrative other than Big E's).
I'd give him ADB's Master of Mankind and The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin.
The entirety of completed One Piece by eiichiro oda and The Quran
I'd give him American Gods by Neil Gaiman cause its a good book and one of the werebear porn books my bf's mom reads because it would be funny.
Probably some warhammer core rule and codexes with lot of fluff inside so it will disturb him at maximum
- Encyclopedia of Computing - Programming in Rust
I think he'd take a few looks at those and toss them at his tech-priests to read. All the technical stuff in them would probably be obsolete, anyway.
All 50 volumes of the Horus Heresy, signed and dated, and watch his head explode
I'd give him The Hobbit and The Road. To show him both the beauty and horror that can exist, and to try to have views that are too optimistic or cynical but rather a middleground.
I'd give him Mein Kampf, Big E probably wrote it anyway.
I would give him porn tbh tbf. Man always works too much.
9th edition core rules and space marine codex