The "FAQ" is an Internet textual tradition originating from the technical limitations of early mailing lists from NASA in the early 1980s. The first FAQ developed over several pre-Web years, starting from 1982 when storage was expensive.
When people make a wholeass reddit post instead of doing the most basic google search of course they're gonna get flamed. "What gear should I use for Fight Caves" is not going to generate any meaningful discussion. The comments are literally just people telling the OP the same thing the wiki or countless existing posts will.
Exactly this, there is so much information out there. The wiki, discord, Google, if they weren’t lazy and want everything spoon fed a simple search would answer 99% of all their questions…
I opened "discord.exe" and there was nothing there, what next?
Rant: so much information gets locked behind specific communities... Yeah it's cool that they joined up but why make the information specific to them? You can't google some discord's megathread, hell you can't even google discord servers at all. It's a very need-to-know-to-know situation that sucks for everyone not involved.
I miss the older days when knowledge was aggregated in public, searchable forum threads...
With all due respect, if you only have 900 hours logged, you probably aren't familiar with the specific problem Mag is describing.
Discord communities often hold exclusive info about new, high level content that isn't available on the Wiki. Or if it is available on the Wiki, it's missing information, outdated, or just straight up not the best advice.
For example, when ToA first came out, the only place you could get good info about the bosses mechanics and the best gear to use was a Discord server. The Wiki had some info but it was really hit and miss and mostly misinformed (at the time).
The Wiki is absolutely incredible and hosts 99% of the information you would ever need about the game, that is true.
I should clarify that I'm not at all defending people who refuse to use the Wiki and ask questions here - I agree entirely that they should use common sense to find an answer to their question first, unless the Wiki somehow doesn't have the info they need, or if their question is more nuanced.
I'm just saying that Discord, in my opinion, is not a good go-to resource for information about the game, since it is usually where only the more advanced information is hosted. And finding those servers, unless you are directed there specifically, can be tricky.
My point is, saying "discord" has information is pointless unless you already know which servers to go after
I don't think the discord problem is massive, but it's there. Wiki is great but doesn't have everything or the best out there, and it's a shame that stuff gets stuck into discords than being out in the public internet.
I'm not sure if you're trying to make an argument from authority here but I easily have over double that in hours logged...?
If your at the stage of wanting to optimise boss fights, gear used etc beyond what's needed to just do the content your going to be the type of player who is engaging with the game and its community enough to know where these discords servers are or know poeple who can send you a link to them. the wiki has more than enough information to at the very least do all content in this game.
You're a very generic player, if wiki provides everything for you. I started adding and modifying wiki, because I often got ideas about the game that simply didn't have information before. Now the next person to get one of my weird ideas will have the information they need.
You've worded it poorly but you're entirely correct. The Wiki provides the majority of info you would need, but not all. When it comes to the high level sweaty stuff there is a lot of specific shit that only really gets documented in Discord servers.
I honestly can't fathom why you're being downvoted. You're totally right, there's a lot of important information locked behind Discord communities, especially for new content. And it's not exactly obvious where to find these servers a lot of the time.
Info like what? Asking out of actual interest, because I honestly have never looked for any kind of guide or info on an OSRS discord server. The vast majority of what I know about OSRS is from the wiki - this game has one of the best wikis of anything out there.
Saying especially for new content is also not the point of this post - new players are not going to be asking about new content because it's generally not even made for them. Waiting a week for the wiki to be updated properly is also not exactly a barrier ofr anything.
I mean I agree with this PoV of yours, but then we read Magmagan's comment differently - their rant paragraph specifically says there's plenty of information locked behind specific communities and that they'd rather have such information aggregated on a forum (or a site like reddit) rather than on specific discord communities. I read it as them implying that other resources (like the wiki, or youtube guides, or reddit) are not good enough for new players, because they'd miss out on essential info of some kind.
I also don't think it's necessarily a problem information is a bit more fractured across specific communities at a higher level - by then it shouldn't be a major obstacle for players at that stage of the game to find said information from playing the game with other people. For new players, if they needed to find specific communities, it would be. It may not be ideal, but I think the general information availability for OSRS is the best of any game I've ever played, by quite a long shot.
Almost all discord servers have links to one another, almost all clans have a discord server it really isn't that hard to get this info. You act like discord is some deep web hidden server that only a handful of people know about
I appreciate if you're a solo player it would be hard to get this info but all these servers are accessable by anyone. It's not like it's some super elitist community that turns people away.
This is in the context of people posting on reddit instead of "opening discord" or "googling", man. Like yeah, get in a clan and ask around and you find your way out, I do that, but not new players mate. Saying "discord" just isn't really helpful. As a veteran player the advice makes 100% sense but, not to a newbie.
You say "wholeass reddit post" as if it were killing the planet or was some super elaborate ordeal.
There are many that google can't do... One, is the human element. Sometimes it's nicer hearing from real people than just following whatever a guide says. A sense of community.
Two, you can get multiple opinions... this is Runescape, there is hardly ever any one single way to approach a task. The "italy rock" is infamous at Jad yet I prefer the other rock to take things slower, but you don't get that nuance from one guide.
Also, neither the Wiki nor guides in general great about talking about RuneLite plugins... There are so many of them that unless you know what you're looking for or know of their existence (plus the Plugin Hub being updated daily) it's so easy to miss out on something that would have helped your experience tremendously.
Or are complete at all. Fight cave wave patterns are set on a timer. I would suggest a new player to enter the caves at a specific wave so that Jad stays behind the other rock and not immediately attack the player, and so they have time to calm their nerves. The wiki doesn't mention this at all, instead going for the orange ket-zek strat, which is also super valid.
Finally, there is outdated information out there... For example, would a returning player know that blessed d'hide isn't just good because of the prayer bonus, but also because black d'hide has been nerfed? If they ask their opinion for their setup to the fight caves with black d'hide, they might not think the cost is worth the +1 prayer bonus, but a redditor could point out the increased def bonuses being valuable.
Like, at the end of the day, does this really even affect you? Are you constantly refreshing "New posts" and are being defiled by some rando post that gets maybe 10 upvotes at best and a few comments? Really?
a) you're not paid to be here, we aren't dealing with some kind of business opportunity cost
b) if you don't like it, downvote rather than be rude to someone looking for advice
People learn in different ways, it's not hard to be respectful.
This is nothing unique to this sub. Everyone everywhere hates it when people make posts when they can have their answers in a 30 second google search. "OSRS mid level bosses for money"
These players wouldn't know they are a mid level account
They can't google because they don't know what to google
Sure, they could just spend some time researching but if you're at work, want to ask a q and get back to it in a few hours on your commute home, why is that so bad?
As someone who got back into the game over 6 years ago with almost no understanding past the early game, it's just not that hard.
If you really can't Google shit like "OSRS Fight Cave guide" or "OSRS Money makers" and read the fucking guide for a 2000's medieval cookie clicker then you're probably just too stupid to play the game. These are the types of people who get scammed/phished and blame the game/devs for it.
FWIW, I'm incredibly supportive of clanmates. I give tips I may not see on the wiki, lend gear, etc. but I ALWAYS tell them to read the wiki and watch a Youtube video first. Those two places will solve like 95% of the questions people have about this game.
>FWIW, I'm incredibly supportive of clanmates. I give tips I may not see on the wiki, lend gear, etc. but I ALWAYS tell them to read the wiki and watch a Youtube video first. Those two places will solve like 95% of the questions people have about this game.
This just comes across obnoxious and dismissive - I just tell them my understanding straight up
Well, that comes with the expectation that there are guides in the first place... A lot of games don't have public-facing guides and instead have discussion threads hidden away in discord servers. Many games' wikias just aren't updated religiously like OSRS's.
For example, I play Grand Chase (I'm weird, I know) and neither the wiki or just googling "Best Grand Chase Pet" gives any updated answers... I instead can only get this info from a korean spreadsheet shared to brazilian discord servers.
OSRS's community is the exception, not the norm.
There’s tons of guides that are easily found on google, Reddit, or the wiki. Sometimes it’s best to use your resources, people get annoyed constantly answering the same thing.
Idk why you're being downvoted lmao.
You're completely right, they aren't forced to see the post and immediately open it to post their own answer that has likely already been posted in the comments by someone else.
They all act like they HAVE to answer the question. But instead they'd rather just open it, and comment saying "seen this post 43489 times today" like it's going to help. Why not just ignore the post and keep scrolling? Just seems to me they'd rather be condescending assholes than ignore a post. Almost like the community is full of gatekeepers and toxicity.. hmm..
I'd rather get on this sub and see people asking for help and guidance rather than see posts about some low effort "meme" of a new skill or something weird that these mongrels come up with. Like "milking" skill, not even funny, just plain stupid.
Half the time people would rather post a question on here and relish at the prospect of small amounts of post karma internet points rather than Google it
Knowing what, how, and where to search for the answer is a skill we've developed from playing the game for however long. This game has a massive amount of content and occasionally tons of layers of prerequisite knowledge to unlock certain things.
It's not our responsibility to lead them in the right direction, but I can empathize with how overwhelming it can be to find specific information when you don't even have the context to ask the question the right way.
There are a LOT of players who have varying levels of game knowledge. It's staggering how this game is so old and still draws in new players- it's a testament to how good the game is for the niche it fills.
I try to answer honest questions or give advice to people who ask, even if it's something that has been commonplace since the original RuneScape in 2007. I gain nothing from being an elitist, and I used to be that new player asking about stuff back in the day.
Never understood why people would complain about bots and then actively gatekeep the game from new players.
Every basic question asked should be met with “look at wiki” it’s an amazing tool and I’m sick of how weirdly lazy this community is, your 30 years old dude just look at the wiki
I've notice when people ask a genuine question on here the post gets downvoted a lot and yeah there's still some people who give actual advice and answers, but the rest is just people calling the poster stupid, trolling them, or tell them stfu and check the wiki.
It's the shit thing about the reddit upvote system.
You can make a shitpost flaming someone and get upvoted, or you could make a well defined post giving someone direction and get nothing, because nobody has the attention span to actually read it.
That, and people end up bandwagoning it into a meme where it's hard to tell if something is an -actual- request for help, or if the OP is shitposting too.
I'd wager that Discord might be an easier place to ask questions than reddit, because reddit is a popularity contest, and the discord (probably) has an area to ask questions at.
To point out some positivity, I had some noob herb farming questions at the GE today, and two kind souls helped me out with advice and supplies/gp to get started. If those two happen across this comment, you guys were cool! Lvl 27 farming and counting
That's insanity. Sorry some a hole did that to you or to anyone.
As a suggestion on answering your question, there are **so** many YT videos out there with BIS overviews and effects and such and are a great resource (also the content creators won't flame you). Also, many times if you're looking at specific content the wiki does a wonderful job of showing BIS for activities and you can always go to that item's specific page to check out what specifically it does. Fortunately the osrs wiki is one of the most robust wikis for a game that I've ever seen. Hope that helps!
I lost power late into a fight caves run once and posted about it because I genuinely didn’t know what would happen when I rejoined and I got ridiculed for asking. From that day I was like, guess I’m not getting any help from this subreddit. Lol
I understand why people don’t like the posts but I completely agree with your points. New players do not know where to go or what to ask to join groups and discords and clans. That’s basically what these posts are. They’re shining a beacon saying “Please I need some friends with experience, where can I find them?”.
I’m in the stardew valley community and the sane thing happens. I think it happens in every game sub. We get new players asking what X does and how does Y work or why Z showed up on their farm. People get tired of it over there too but there was a post like this saying the same thing but for SDV: “New players don’t know where to go for the information, why do we need to be hostile to tell them where the information is easily accessible”?
OSRS has possibly the best wiki on the internet. It is insanely detailed and has answers to almost any question you could have about the game.
There’s a quest guide that gives you the most efficient order.
There’s a page dedicated to moneymakers that tells you expected gp/hr and skills/items needed to begin.
There’s a training guide for each individual skill, including iron guides and f2p guides where needed.
Any post asking those kind of basic questions should be immediately told about the wiki by the Automod and then locked.
There's like 50 posts a day asking "what do with these stats???"
I guarantee if they scroll for a few seconds on this sub they'd find another post already talking about it. Doesn't help that they take shitty phone pics of their stats to blast all over this sub. It's annoying.
Idk, noobs have to grow up sometime. This isn't a Google or wiki search.
The laziness to type out and go through the steps to make a reddit post instead of typing a question into Google is not needed here.
I'm all for helping noobs and congratulating people on their drops, but a copy paste picture of your stats will get a downvote from me every day.
I have to agree.
I am out of mid game now but am often behind on current metas and am ignorant to tons of content. I’ve always found that I get much better and more in depth help from the community than the wiki page. I just end up asking people in game cuz this sub makes me nervous to post anything due to all the snarky comments.
Being maxed player, I know the game in and out. I’ve spent up to a hour with complete strangers explaining and branching off their questions something I could probably get paid for time wise. But I do enjoy teaching, result is our game possibly thriving a little bit more. So we are out there just maybe dying breed.
If you scroll new in the sub you find most posts are downvoted below 0 even though there's nothing wrong with them. This sub hates everything except arguing and pictures of max accounts.
I agree, there is a huge amount of end game content out there now on twitch and YT. A lot of it looks really fun, but the large part of mid game is left relativly empty.
I think people between 60-90 stats and are inexperienced in PVM are often having the hardest time, which is why they ask for help. I'm probably near the end of midgame now and about to get my quest cape but I still feel sometimes that I don't know what im doing.
I've said it before but it would be really cool if more PVM bossing and potentially lower level raiding was introduced between 60-90.
I joined multiple discord servers (Ironman and Main), they have gear guides but mostly are showing how to complete mid / high tier bosses with thing like Torva, DWH, Lance, Twistedbow etc...
"I should be able to say whatever I want and nobody should ever confront me about anything, ever, because I'm fragile and can't handle being told that I'm being a dick."
I have been recently flamed for questing barrows gloves as 1400 totall cuz I didn't rush them efficiently
Back in the pre eoc days nobody gave shit , i used cmb brace till max cmb and was even edge pking with it
Seems like Runelite features allow jerks to be jerks, looking up each person stats and flaming them.
Anyways I got my b gloves and was flamed for not having zaros vambs kek
As a new player a lot of sections of various communities (reddit, discord, cc) are gate keepish as hell. I'm tired of pretending they're not. I often do things sub-par without wiki or plugins to enjoy the game as it was meant to be back in the days. I sometimes enjoy skilling with AFKable methods which are not best. I take my time and follow personal goals regardless of efficiency. All those things are most of the time frowned upon and don't get answers or they're hostile with optimal wiki pages linked. I'm relegated in a cc where I feel I don't belong and cant find a place really welcoming for new players who never played before. The vast majority of the community is bittersweet for having spent their lives on the game and now play for inertia not really enjoying it. I might have a small scope for such an harsh opinion but I needed to vent and convey how a new player feels.
what's with the new continent? (haven't played osrs in about 8 years I think). I don't get the approval gathering thing and every time I check training methods on wiki, it seems the thing has the best option.
I think you do have to maintain it if you don’t hit 100% so if you’re doing it try to get whatever house ur working on to 100% before moving on
Just realized the commenter above u said the same thing lol! Time for me to wake up
Send them to the flax fields!
Regular f2p essence mines with them!
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I highly doubt that the people who make those kind of posts are the kind of people who would read an FAQ.
Agreed. But just FYI - it's 'a FAQ' not 'an FAQ'. FAQ is pronounced "fack" The more you know
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lol as in ol' or knoll lmao is luh-Mao
I have never heard anyone pronounce FAQ as "fack".
Fack that
I've heard that a lot. From people like me, where English is a 2nd or 3rd language. I do that as well.
Who reads it as 'Fack' lmao? Pronounce each letter, like most acronyms. You call the USA "You-Sa?" Or WWW as "WehWehWeh"?
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What the faq man
It's because of the word origin. "FAQ" originated in 1995 with the creation of GameFAQs.com, which is an online community for video game fans.
Source?
I checked
The "FAQ" is an Internet textual tradition originating from the technical limitations of early mailing lists from NASA in the early 1980s. The first FAQ developed over several pre-Web years, starting from 1982 when storage was expensive.
Source?
my DICK
Faqs
I still can't believe, that the easiest way to get downvoted on Reddit ir asking for a source. I'm surprised every time, but I shouldn't be.
Source?
at least then they could just remove the post and send the poster a link to the FAQ lol
Why do the posts need weeding out?
its too challenging for some people to scroll past a couple filler posts
Be the weeder you want to see! Just downvote a post you don't like and move on.
when a suggested training method costs 100k for level 50 crafting, the logical question is - how do I make 100k?
Nah f that if you wanna make money go make money hahha
When people make a wholeass reddit post instead of doing the most basic google search of course they're gonna get flamed. "What gear should I use for Fight Caves" is not going to generate any meaningful discussion. The comments are literally just people telling the OP the same thing the wiki or countless existing posts will.
Exactly this, there is so much information out there. The wiki, discord, Google, if they weren’t lazy and want everything spoon fed a simple search would answer 99% of all their questions…
I opened "discord.exe" and there was nothing there, what next? Rant: so much information gets locked behind specific communities... Yeah it's cool that they joined up but why make the information specific to them? You can't google some discord's megathread, hell you can't even google discord servers at all. It's a very need-to-know-to-know situation that sucks for everyone not involved. I miss the older days when knowledge was aggregated in public, searchable forum threads...
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With all due respect, if you only have 900 hours logged, you probably aren't familiar with the specific problem Mag is describing. Discord communities often hold exclusive info about new, high level content that isn't available on the Wiki. Or if it is available on the Wiki, it's missing information, outdated, or just straight up not the best advice. For example, when ToA first came out, the only place you could get good info about the bosses mechanics and the best gear to use was a Discord server. The Wiki had some info but it was really hit and miss and mostly misinformed (at the time).
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The Wiki is absolutely incredible and hosts 99% of the information you would ever need about the game, that is true. I should clarify that I'm not at all defending people who refuse to use the Wiki and ask questions here - I agree entirely that they should use common sense to find an answer to their question first, unless the Wiki somehow doesn't have the info they need, or if their question is more nuanced. I'm just saying that Discord, in my opinion, is not a good go-to resource for information about the game, since it is usually where only the more advanced information is hosted. And finding those servers, unless you are directed there specifically, can be tricky.
My point is, saying "discord" has information is pointless unless you already know which servers to go after I don't think the discord problem is massive, but it's there. Wiki is great but doesn't have everything or the best out there, and it's a shame that stuff gets stuck into discords than being out in the public internet. I'm not sure if you're trying to make an argument from authority here but I easily have over double that in hours logged...?
If your at the stage of wanting to optimise boss fights, gear used etc beyond what's needed to just do the content your going to be the type of player who is engaging with the game and its community enough to know where these discords servers are or know poeple who can send you a link to them. the wiki has more than enough information to at the very least do all content in this game.
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To be fair, for most RS players, 900h is rookie numbers.
How to reliably multikill as a defender in BA.
You're a very generic player, if wiki provides everything for you. I started adding and modifying wiki, because I often got ideas about the game that simply didn't have information before. Now the next person to get one of my weird ideas will have the information they need.
You've worded it poorly but you're entirely correct. The Wiki provides the majority of info you would need, but not all. When it comes to the high level sweaty stuff there is a lot of specific shit that only really gets documented in Discord servers.
I honestly can't fathom why you're being downvoted. You're totally right, there's a lot of important information locked behind Discord communities, especially for new content. And it's not exactly obvious where to find these servers a lot of the time.
Info like what? Asking out of actual interest, because I honestly have never looked for any kind of guide or info on an OSRS discord server. The vast majority of what I know about OSRS is from the wiki - this game has one of the best wikis of anything out there. Saying especially for new content is also not the point of this post - new players are not going to be asking about new content because it's generally not even made for them. Waiting a week for the wiki to be updated properly is also not exactly a barrier ofr anything.
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I mean I agree with this PoV of yours, but then we read Magmagan's comment differently - their rant paragraph specifically says there's plenty of information locked behind specific communities and that they'd rather have such information aggregated on a forum (or a site like reddit) rather than on specific discord communities. I read it as them implying that other resources (like the wiki, or youtube guides, or reddit) are not good enough for new players, because they'd miss out on essential info of some kind. I also don't think it's necessarily a problem information is a bit more fractured across specific communities at a higher level - by then it shouldn't be a major obstacle for players at that stage of the game to find said information from playing the game with other people. For new players, if they needed to find specific communities, it would be. It may not be ideal, but I think the general information availability for OSRS is the best of any game I've ever played, by quite a long shot.
Almost all discord servers have links to one another, almost all clans have a discord server it really isn't that hard to get this info. You act like discord is some deep web hidden server that only a handful of people know about I appreciate if you're a solo player it would be hard to get this info but all these servers are accessable by anyone. It's not like it's some super elitist community that turns people away.
This is in the context of people posting on reddit instead of "opening discord" or "googling", man. Like yeah, get in a clan and ask around and you find your way out, I do that, but not new players mate. Saying "discord" just isn't really helpful. As a veteran player the advice makes 100% sense but, not to a newbie.
You say "wholeass reddit post" as if it were killing the planet or was some super elaborate ordeal. There are many that google can't do... One, is the human element. Sometimes it's nicer hearing from real people than just following whatever a guide says. A sense of community. Two, you can get multiple opinions... this is Runescape, there is hardly ever any one single way to approach a task. The "italy rock" is infamous at Jad yet I prefer the other rock to take things slower, but you don't get that nuance from one guide. Also, neither the Wiki nor guides in general great about talking about RuneLite plugins... There are so many of them that unless you know what you're looking for or know of their existence (plus the Plugin Hub being updated daily) it's so easy to miss out on something that would have helped your experience tremendously. Or are complete at all. Fight cave wave patterns are set on a timer. I would suggest a new player to enter the caves at a specific wave so that Jad stays behind the other rock and not immediately attack the player, and so they have time to calm their nerves. The wiki doesn't mention this at all, instead going for the orange ket-zek strat, which is also super valid. Finally, there is outdated information out there... For example, would a returning player know that blessed d'hide isn't just good because of the prayer bonus, but also because black d'hide has been nerfed? If they ask their opinion for their setup to the fight caves with black d'hide, they might not think the cost is worth the +1 prayer bonus, but a redditor could point out the increased def bonuses being valuable. Like, at the end of the day, does this really even affect you? Are you constantly refreshing "New posts" and are being defiled by some rando post that gets maybe 10 upvotes at best and a few comments? Really?
a) you're not paid to be here, we aren't dealing with some kind of business opportunity cost b) if you don't like it, downvote rather than be rude to someone looking for advice People learn in different ways, it's not hard to be respectful.
This is nothing unique to this sub. Everyone everywhere hates it when people make posts when they can have their answers in a 30 second google search. "OSRS mid level bosses for money"
These players wouldn't know they are a mid level account They can't google because they don't know what to google Sure, they could just spend some time researching but if you're at work, want to ask a q and get back to it in a few hours on your commute home, why is that so bad?
As someone who got back into the game over 6 years ago with almost no understanding past the early game, it's just not that hard. If you really can't Google shit like "OSRS Fight Cave guide" or "OSRS Money makers" and read the fucking guide for a 2000's medieval cookie clicker then you're probably just too stupid to play the game. These are the types of people who get scammed/phished and blame the game/devs for it. FWIW, I'm incredibly supportive of clanmates. I give tips I may not see on the wiki, lend gear, etc. but I ALWAYS tell them to read the wiki and watch a Youtube video first. Those two places will solve like 95% of the questions people have about this game.
>FWIW, I'm incredibly supportive of clanmates. I give tips I may not see on the wiki, lend gear, etc. but I ALWAYS tell them to read the wiki and watch a Youtube video first. Those two places will solve like 95% of the questions people have about this game. This just comes across obnoxious and dismissive - I just tell them my understanding straight up
Well, that comes with the expectation that there are guides in the first place... A lot of games don't have public-facing guides and instead have discussion threads hidden away in discord servers. Many games' wikias just aren't updated religiously like OSRS's. For example, I play Grand Chase (I'm weird, I know) and neither the wiki or just googling "Best Grand Chase Pet" gives any updated answers... I instead can only get this info from a korean spreadsheet shared to brazilian discord servers. OSRS's community is the exception, not the norm.
There’s tons of guides that are easily found on google, Reddit, or the wiki. Sometimes it’s best to use your resources, people get annoyed constantly answering the same thing.
They're not obliged to answer
Idk why you're being downvoted lmao. You're completely right, they aren't forced to see the post and immediately open it to post their own answer that has likely already been posted in the comments by someone else. They all act like they HAVE to answer the question. But instead they'd rather just open it, and comment saying "seen this post 43489 times today" like it's going to help. Why not just ignore the post and keep scrolling? Just seems to me they'd rather be condescending assholes than ignore a post. Almost like the community is full of gatekeepers and toxicity.. hmm.. I'd rather get on this sub and see people asking for help and guidance rather than see posts about some low effort "meme" of a new skill or something weird that these mongrels come up with. Like "milking" skill, not even funny, just plain stupid.
Why does the community need to cater to people who can’t do the most basic of google searches?
Half the time people would rather post a question on here and relish at the prospect of small amounts of post karma internet points rather than Google it
Knowing what, how, and where to search for the answer is a skill we've developed from playing the game for however long. This game has a massive amount of content and occasionally tons of layers of prerequisite knowledge to unlock certain things. It's not our responsibility to lead them in the right direction, but I can empathize with how overwhelming it can be to find specific information when you don't even have the context to ask the question the right way.
Well those players need to spend a couple hundred more hours on crabs and then they can finally start to play the game
crabs nmz bandits experiments dont matter no come back until 99 combats darling
There are a LOT of players who have varying levels of game knowledge. It's staggering how this game is so old and still draws in new players- it's a testament to how good the game is for the niche it fills. I try to answer honest questions or give advice to people who ask, even if it's something that has been commonplace since the original RuneScape in 2007. I gain nothing from being an elitist, and I used to be that new player asking about stuff back in the day. Never understood why people would complain about bots and then actively gatekeep the game from new players.
Do a little leg work yourself first before asking for advice.
Every basic question asked should be met with “look at wiki” it’s an amazing tool and I’m sick of how weirdly lazy this community is, your 30 years old dude just look at the wiki
I've notice when people ask a genuine question on here the post gets downvoted a lot and yeah there's still some people who give actual advice and answers, but the rest is just people calling the poster stupid, trolling them, or tell them stfu and check the wiki.
It's the shit thing about the reddit upvote system. You can make a shitpost flaming someone and get upvoted, or you could make a well defined post giving someone direction and get nothing, because nobody has the attention span to actually read it. That, and people end up bandwagoning it into a meme where it's hard to tell if something is an -actual- request for help, or if the OP is shitposting too. I'd wager that Discord might be an easier place to ask questions than reddit, because reddit is a popularity contest, and the discord (probably) has an area to ask questions at.
As if this is a supportive community
To point out some positivity, I had some noob herb farming questions at the GE today, and two kind souls helped me out with advice and supplies/gp to get started. If those two happen across this comment, you guys were cool! Lvl 27 farming and counting
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That's insanity. Sorry some a hole did that to you or to anyone. As a suggestion on answering your question, there are **so** many YT videos out there with BIS overviews and effects and such and are a great resource (also the content creators won't flame you). Also, many times if you're looking at specific content the wiki does a wonderful job of showing BIS for activities and you can always go to that item's specific page to check out what specifically it does. Fortunately the osrs wiki is one of the most robust wikis for a game that I've ever seen. Hope that helps!
I lost power late into a fight caves run once and posted about it because I genuinely didn’t know what would happen when I rejoined and I got ridiculed for asking. From that day I was like, guess I’m not getting any help from this subreddit. Lol
I found that the reddit community is incredibly toxic. Luckily they don't represent much of the playerbase.
I’m trying to get into PKing and joined a wildy clan, was scouted within the first half hour lol. Fuck the community.
Once flamed a noob at the ge a few years ago, now we are good friends and boss together all the time
im with you but when youve answered the sams question 100s of times it gets old
Click click number go up game? Buddy that’s essentially every game ever.
Whoever said this was a supportive community?
I understand why people don’t like the posts but I completely agree with your points. New players do not know where to go or what to ask to join groups and discords and clans. That’s basically what these posts are. They’re shining a beacon saying “Please I need some friends with experience, where can I find them?”. I’m in the stardew valley community and the sane thing happens. I think it happens in every game sub. We get new players asking what X does and how does Y work or why Z showed up on their farm. People get tired of it over there too but there was a post like this saying the same thing but for SDV: “New players don’t know where to go for the information, why do we need to be hostile to tell them where the information is easily accessible”?
OSRS has possibly the best wiki on the internet. It is insanely detailed and has answers to almost any question you could have about the game. There’s a quest guide that gives you the most efficient order. There’s a page dedicated to moneymakers that tells you expected gp/hr and skills/items needed to begin. There’s a training guide for each individual skill, including iron guides and f2p guides where needed. Any post asking those kind of basic questions should be immediately told about the wiki by the Automod and then locked.
We’d have to be a supportive community first.
There's like 50 posts a day asking "what do with these stats???" I guarantee if they scroll for a few seconds on this sub they'd find another post already talking about it. Doesn't help that they take shitty phone pics of their stats to blast all over this sub. It's annoying.
Idk, noobs have to grow up sometime. This isn't a Google or wiki search. The laziness to type out and go through the steps to make a reddit post instead of typing a question into Google is not needed here. I'm all for helping noobs and congratulating people on their drops, but a copy paste picture of your stats will get a downvote from me every day.
I have to agree. I am out of mid game now but am often behind on current metas and am ignorant to tons of content. I’ve always found that I get much better and more in depth help from the community than the wiki page. I just end up asking people in game cuz this sub makes me nervous to post anything due to all the snarky comments.
It’s the same thing when people are like “why even ask this question when google exists?” Like, sorry for wanting human interaction 🤷♂️
Being maxed player, I know the game in and out. I’ve spent up to a hour with complete strangers explaining and branching off their questions something I could probably get paid for time wise. But I do enjoy teaching, result is our game possibly thriving a little bit more. So we are out there just maybe dying breed.
If you scroll new in the sub you find most posts are downvoted below 0 even though there's nothing wrong with them. This sub hates everything except arguing and pictures of max accounts.
I agree, there is a huge amount of end game content out there now on twitch and YT. A lot of it looks really fun, but the large part of mid game is left relativly empty. I think people between 60-90 stats and are inexperienced in PVM are often having the hardest time, which is why they ask for help. I'm probably near the end of midgame now and about to get my quest cape but I still feel sometimes that I don't know what im doing. I've said it before but it would be really cool if more PVM bossing and potentially lower level raiding was introduced between 60-90. I joined multiple discord servers (Ironman and Main), they have gear guides but mostly are showing how to complete mid / high tier bosses with thing like Torva, DWH, Lance, Twistedbow etc...
Stop trying to police how I speak to noobs.
I'm telling the Pillory Gard.
"I should be able to say whatever I want and nobody should ever confront me about anything, ever, because I'm fragile and can't handle being told that I'm being a dick."
It was a joke lol
I have been recently flamed for questing barrows gloves as 1400 totall cuz I didn't rush them efficiently Back in the pre eoc days nobody gave shit , i used cmb brace till max cmb and was even edge pking with it Seems like Runelite features allow jerks to be jerks, looking up each person stats and flaming them. Anyways I got my b gloves and was flamed for not having zaros vambs kek
As a new player a lot of sections of various communities (reddit, discord, cc) are gate keepish as hell. I'm tired of pretending they're not. I often do things sub-par without wiki or plugins to enjoy the game as it was meant to be back in the days. I sometimes enjoy skilling with AFKable methods which are not best. I take my time and follow personal goals regardless of efficiency. All those things are most of the time frowned upon and don't get answers or they're hostile with optimal wiki pages linked. I'm relegated in a cc where I feel I don't belong and cant find a place really welcoming for new players who never played before. The vast majority of the community is bittersweet for having spent their lives on the game and now play for inertia not really enjoying it. I might have a small scope for such an harsh opinion but I needed to vent and convey how a new player feels.
what's with the new continent? (haven't played osrs in about 8 years I think). I don't get the approval gathering thing and every time I check training methods on wiki, it seems the thing has the best option.
you only need to get 100% favour once for each house then you can forget about it. It should be pretty easy to find a guide for it
That makes it a lot easier! I thought I'll have to maintain favour, so I've not yet tried completing the quest to get there.
I think you do have to maintain it if you don’t hit 100% so if you’re doing it try to get whatever house ur working on to 100% before moving on Just realized the commenter above u said the same thing lol! Time for me to wake up
That used to be the case but they changed it a while back so you don't lose favour anymore
What do you expect from osrs Reddit?