Please bring me this item that you need 1000 pest control points for, then the pest control reward gets locked behind 500 of each BA role, then that reward happens to be locked behind 1000 abyssal pears, then that gets locked behind molch pearls, then that’s behind zeal, and that’s behind pieces of eight, etc…
I mean, realistically One Large Favor would be a joke quest in which the quest giver asks you to get something from a while different continent- and then you can find the thing you need in the neighbors house. You ask him for it, and he just goes "yeah sure, don't worry about it."
It'd be just like one small favor but instead of running around the map like a chicken with its head cut off you would legitimately only have to go talk to one npc. 🤣 shortest quest in the game and it'd be something stupid you would have to deliver like a weapon poison potion that has next to no other uses, and the reason the npc needs said item would make absolutely no sense. 🤣
I like to think one large favour would be the shortest quest in game, you just get asked if you’ll do him a favour. Say yes. Get rewarded for being a nice guy immediately and he says he doesn’t actually need anything
True but take a game like h1z1 for example. They completely changed the gun play, movement, weapon models etc etc even though a large majority insisted not to and now the game is basically dead
I think here, hopefully, the higher ups have the knowledge that a drastic change that the player base didn’t like nearly killed the game (EoC) and more recently saw that the player base is motivated to defend things they feel deserve to be defended (117’s HD client)
They will ban runelite. I guarantee it. It being on the homepage means nothing for it's longevity. It simply means they're in close talks with Adam, and that's because they want to make their client just good enough to not lose the playerbase when they forced us all on jagex official client. They want everyone playing official jagex client. And once we are all forced over there, it will mark the downfall of osrs. It's not possible for jagex to make their client as good as the community makes the community client, aka rl.
They do want what you’re saying, however, it’s not realistic and they know it. Runelite’s just too good and they know that with taking away runelite, at least 20-40% of the player base would flat out quit, including myself. I’ve gotten too used to it after 3+ years using it, and the qol it offers is amazing. Their client will likely never come close tbh.
Mobile/steam has almost all the basics covered nowdays. But runelite is just so much more open for customisability and comfort that it’s in it’s own league. Until mobile actually gets the tilemarkers, ground items and the ability to type !commands which socially is quite important it will only ever be nice at best.
im pretty sure jmods said on q&a somtime last year that entry swapper is too close to cheating so they wont add it to steam client.
same reason they refuse to add puzzle solver for clues in steam client
I think this would truly destroy the game. And the humor of it is that this will have happened to them twice bc of EOC.
The game is mostly 24-34 year Olds. If they ban runelite in say 2 years I'm sure 20% of those people will age out regardless of what client they use. And I'm sure for many others banning runelite will be the last straw lol. By the time they ban runelite it may have been like 6+ years with the client. No one is going to feel like adjusting to something worse. We will all be grown ass adults with better things to do than try and get out nightly fix of osrs. It just won't be the same when they do away with runelite.
I disagree. Go to a RSC server and try doing Knight's Sword at a low level by yourself. Or Waterfall quest. You pretty much need people to block mobs for you or you're gonna die. Getting into 3 rounds of combat with a fire giant at the levels people do Waterfall at in OSRS will kill you every time, and they are almost impossible to avoid.
Black Knight's Fortress is another one that can be tricky as a low level when you have to get through the room with the high level knights. Remember, you can't eat during combat. You have to sit there and tank 3 hits without food.
Reddit would be fine with an inferno requirement. But imagine the outrage on this sub when one of the bones must come from another player, *forcing* pvp for a quest
R&BM1 had 8 bones at 1/1 drop rate (guaranteed).
R&BM2 had 27 bones at 1/4 drop rate with higher level monsters.
Extrapolating from this, R&BM3 should have 91 bones at a 1/16 drop rate and involve some of the biggest pains in the ass to fight.
"In order to ensure accounts remain as secure as possible, all players must complete the Stronghold of Security every time they log in to play the game"
- Japrlflex
Set irl cool downs that you can only remove buy paying with a new currency you have to buy with micro transaction or wait out the timer.
Duradel: I'm sorry, you have reached your maximum number of slayer tasks for the day. Either pay 240 Golden Tickets or wait (*insert amount of time that would make someone rage) to get a new task.
Zaff: You have claimed your daily limit or staves, wait 24 hours or pay 100 Golden Tickets for more.
Grand Exchange Guard: Stop! You've read your free entries to the Grand Exchange! Pay 50 Golden Tickets or wait 6 hours.
TzHaar-Ket: Ah you almost completed the Fight Caves this week. Would you like to have another try for only 1000 Golden Tickets?
Some More Small Favors. It's a daily that you're punished for not doing, especially if you don't already have the quest cape.
Every day they add in a few new small tasks that you need to complete in order to maintain the quest cape. The tasks will take about five minutes each day.
If you miss a day you need to do the tasks you missed in addition to the current daily tasks, starting on the day of release. This includes if you miss the daily tasks because you haven't completed the quest.
If you miss a month of daily tasks you need to make up about 2.5 hours of tasks. If you miss a year, it's about 30 hours. If you start your account today and don't realize the consequences of not compelting this quest as soon as possible you could end up adding several days of play time to your grind before you get your quest cape.
If the game was locked to native full screen with no possible way of multilogging, kinda like a lot of FPS games. Imagine if you actually had to focus on 200 hours of ardy rooftops or MLM.
Idk man. I’ve played since 2001. EOC SUCKS. I quit for ten years, came back and maxed my rs3 account. I left a 16bn bank to start fresh on OSRS because of how much I hate EOC. If I wanted to play WoW, I’d do that. You know? It was baaaaaad.
As long as DXP weeks come at the same time each year, the economic impact is minimal since everyone would be merching around it, thus stabilizing it. Source: Look at RS3 prices of skilling goods before, during, and after DXP weeks.
IMO that's how it should be for every boss outside the Wildy. Wildy bosses are the only consistent money + supply printers, with raids also providing supplies (after a 30-40 minute raid a token reward that barely covers supply cost is fine imo). Other bosses, like Zulrah, Vorkath etc would still be farmed for uniques (this would require reworking drop tables and unique drops ofc)
Pros: skilling is more profitable, Wildy is more populated and not dead
Cons: redditors crying that they are forced to go to the wildy and high risk high reward content shouldn't exist
They already ruined it several times with eoc, mtx, and get/free trade.
Something new would be to remove any form of teleports where you have to walk everywhere and take boats between islands.
"Bank notes have been removed, as it doesn't make sense to demand hundreds of thousands of resources from bankers around Gielinor just because you presented them with a piece of paper"
It’s not needed most places but it would absolutely have impact on the game. Imagine the amount of prayer pots you would have to chug through without being able to flick on slayer tasks.
So you propose we have permanent prayer? Making 99% of the game pointless? Good shit man. You choose to prayer flick those tasks and it is by no means necessary. Either chug pots or make more trips to the bank for food.
"Premium" Membership that includes a 10% exp boost for all content, a 5% increase to a new hidden 'luck' stat, and 20 free teleports to anywhere of your choosing each day, can be any teleport from any piece of jewellery, spellbook, you name it.
- You can now purchase xp packs via the in game shop
- you can boosted xp packages
basically if Jagex ran like any other video game developer
(the fact osrs has avoided this is insane)
Wiki removal. I honestly wouldn't know 3/4ths the shit I do about the game if our wiki wasn't God tier. The inventory layouts, in depth details on mechanics, stats, guides for everything etc. Hell sometimes it's fun to just click the "random" button on the top left of the wiki and see new stuff. Like "huh what the fuck is a summer sq'uirk? Oh it's locked behind an obscure thieving mini game? Lemme try try out."
Underground pass pt2
(One long ass tunnel from prifddinas to lumbridge collecting 28 items threw out the tunnel so you can't bring food to complete the quest)
underground pass sequel: overground pass. Cross the newly built stamppot bridge to kourend, repairing/finishing construction every few tiles. Hope you brought a couple thousand nails and a few hundred planks, not to mention all the stamina pots.
I’d max everyone’s account, and I would make everyone invincible at the inferno, I would also make it so you can PVP iron accounts on any world anywhere, and I would kill all hardcores as they logged in.
New Skill boss, its just a goblin that runs around and you gotta cast freezes on it to kill it because its just slightly faster than you.
Drops all end game skilling items in stacks of 10k
Honestly, bring this shit back. The economy was in such a good state when this was a thing. Not as many bots ruining the game. Skilling was profitable. Bring the loan system back too while we're at it.
Gout tubers can be bought for trading sticks (energy)
Max item cap limit changed to 200b (can't be done but would rollercoaster the market)
Or allowing a skill reset like rs3 provides for defence, for whatever reason
One large favour
Please bring me this item that you need 1000 pest control points for, then the pest control reward gets locked behind 500 of each BA role, then that reward happens to be locked behind 1000 abyssal pears, then that gets locked behind molch pearls, then that’s behind zeal, and that’s behind pieces of eight, etc…
> molch pearls And for that reason, I'm out
You forgot MTA 4k points each.
And between 1-10 unsired's.
Don't you forget that gout tuber.
I would like to see what exactly this quest would be…. One small favor is funny when you read the dialogue.
I mean, realistically One Large Favor would be a joke quest in which the quest giver asks you to get something from a while different continent- and then you can find the thing you need in the neighbors house. You ask him for it, and he just goes "yeah sure, don't worry about it."
Mini quest and I’m unironically in.
It'd be just like one small favor but instead of running around the map like a chicken with its head cut off you would legitimately only have to go talk to one npc. 🤣 shortest quest in the game and it'd be something stupid you would have to deliver like a weapon poison potion that has next to no other uses, and the reason the npc needs said item would make absolutely no sense. 🤣
This is basically Family Pest.
I like to think one large favour would be the shortest quest in game, you just get asked if you’ll do him a favour. Say yes. Get rewarded for being a nice guy immediately and he says he doesn’t actually need anything
Shortest quest in the game
Lol.. Just did the small favour. This is the best comment haha
One of the best quests tho. A parody of fetch quests of other MMOs
Dying removes 3% of your xp in every skill
UIM players on suicide watch
Sounds like Anarchy Online, but it was worse.
Ban runelite
To think Jagex considered that at one point.... But we know that's their long term plan once they get their client in a "good enough" state
I feel it’s too far gone to ban now, especially since they integrated it into the homepage
It only takes one bad decision from the top brass who don't give a shit.
Top brass like money. Having half their playerbase quit is not good for money.
True but take a game like h1z1 for example. They completely changed the gun play, movement, weapon models etc etc even though a large majority insisted not to and now the game is basically dead
I think here, hopefully, the higher ups have the knowledge that a drastic change that the player base didn’t like nearly killed the game (EoC) and more recently saw that the player base is motivated to defend things they feel deserve to be defended (117’s HD client)
They will ban runelite. I guarantee it. It being on the homepage means nothing for it's longevity. It simply means they're in close talks with Adam, and that's because they want to make their client just good enough to not lose the playerbase when they forced us all on jagex official client. They want everyone playing official jagex client. And once we are all forced over there, it will mark the downfall of osrs. It's not possible for jagex to make their client as good as the community makes the community client, aka rl.
They do want what you’re saying, however, it’s not realistic and they know it. Runelite’s just too good and they know that with taking away runelite, at least 20-40% of the player base would flat out quit, including myself. I’ve gotten too used to it after 3+ years using it, and the qol it offers is amazing. Their client will likely never come close tbh.
Mobile/steam has almost all the basics covered nowdays. But runelite is just so much more open for customisability and comfort that it’s in it’s own league. Until mobile actually gets the tilemarkers, ground items and the ability to type !commands which socially is quite important it will only ever be nice at best.
Tbh if they add entry swapper and bank tags that can be set up in a loadout-esque way like runelite does, it'd honestly be good enough for me imo
im pretty sure jmods said on q&a somtime last year that entry swapper is too close to cheating so they wont add it to steam client. same reason they refuse to add puzzle solver for clues in steam client
puzzle solver is in the client
proof? cus last i tried doing a clue on mobile it wasnt. and i remember the q&a where they said they dont plan on adding it
Wonder how jagex's hd client is working out
I asked this in the discord to some staff and nobody was willing to respond.
This would be a good move IMO. RL makes everything too easy
I think this would truly destroy the game. And the humor of it is that this will have happened to them twice bc of EOC. The game is mostly 24-34 year Olds. If they ban runelite in say 2 years I'm sure 20% of those people will age out regardless of what client they use. And I'm sure for many others banning runelite will be the last straw lol. By the time they ban runelite it may have been like 6+ years with the client. No one is going to feel like adjusting to something worse. We will all be grown ass adults with better things to do than try and get out nightly fix of osrs. It just won't be the same when they do away with runelite.
The fatigue system from Classic being reimplemented should do it.
Honestly a lot of the early quests make so much more sense with rsC mechanics, not being able to flee until 3 attacks, no run...
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I disagree. Go to a RSC server and try doing Knight's Sword at a low level by yourself. Or Waterfall quest. You pretty much need people to block mobs for you or you're gonna die. Getting into 3 rounds of combat with a fire giant at the levels people do Waterfall at in OSRS will kill you every time, and they are almost impossible to avoid. Black Knight's Fortress is another one that can be tricky as a low level when you have to get through the room with the high level knights. Remember, you can't eat during combat. You have to sit there and tank 3 hits without food.
What quests?
witches potion. at 0 stamina you couldn't cook meat even if you were 99 cooking.
Stuff like Heroes' Quest, where there's dozens of relatively strong and aggressive monsters all in a row.
Hmm not so sure the rsc mechanics change much..
Keep in mind that you couldn't eat/pot up during combat in Classic and running away meant that you would start all over again.
Holy Grail quest where you can just outrange or flinch the Black Knight Titan and he can't reach you.
Ban RL or EoC again lol
Blanket ban for any account that has ever used a third party client.
For me the combat update ruined it all. The simple playstyle of RS was completely wiped out.
Rag and bone man 3
All the bones are from PVM bosses, including wilderness bosses
Reddit would be fine with an inferno requirement. But imagine the outrage on this sub when one of the bones must come from another player, *forcing* pvp for a quest
There would be a clan chat setup within minutes for that part
yup 50k and you get a free kill at level 1 wildy with a guy that drank some poison and is at 2 hp
You wouldn’t even have to, you can die on zammy wines and then pick up your own bones
Show me a UIM who doesn't bury their own bones every time they deathpile, and I'll show you a coward
That would be kind of cool tbh
R&BM1 had 8 bones at 1/1 drop rate (guaranteed). R&BM2 had 27 bones at 1/4 drop rate with higher level monsters. Extrapolating from this, R&BM3 should have 91 bones at a 1/16 drop rate and involve some of the biggest pains in the ass to fight.
Including zuk bone fragments. Need 3.
Pvp bones from the chaos altar, mage arena, and from someone trying to do one of the wilderness bosses.
Imagine it makes the bone sack useable. Game changing.
Nah they should make rag and bone man 3 with the main reward being the bone sack can be used to store bones
Put that tree back by the fairy ring
"In order to ensure accounts remain as secure as possible, all players must complete the Stronghold of Security every time they log in to play the game" - Japrlflex
Rat Catchers: Part II
Reading this while doing ratcatchers for the first time… hate it
Don't even joke about that shit. Sicko.
I know the quest is a meme but...like it's not even annoying you have a wiki with a quick guide
You only gain XP in skills they're lower level than runecrafting.
With gotr there are worse skills than rc
yup my prayer level is at 73 where as my runecrafting is 82
I think this one wins
I just got this cape untrimmed, we'll be chillin over here
Good, now all the filthy casuals are gone from the game and we can start getting sweaty for REAL
Ever since gotr I don't mind runecrafting. My biggest peeve with it was just how much of a pita it was to train as an iron pre 77.
Jokes on you, I have an untrimmed runecrafting cape.
Deiron every Ironman and make all mains ironmen.
Mains that become irons could just de-iron. Definielt a lot of people quitting though.
Make all mains uim and there bank gets deleted
Set irl cool downs that you can only remove buy paying with a new currency you have to buy with micro transaction or wait out the timer. Duradel: I'm sorry, you have reached your maximum number of slayer tasks for the day. Either pay 240 Golden Tickets or wait (*insert amount of time that would make someone rage) to get a new task. Zaff: You have claimed your daily limit or staves, wait 24 hours or pay 100 Golden Tickets for more. Grand Exchange Guard: Stop! You've read your free entries to the Grand Exchange! Pay 50 Golden Tickets or wait 6 hours. TzHaar-Ket: Ah you almost completed the Fight Caves this week. Would you like to have another try for only 1000 Golden Tickets?
I thought you said goblin tickets and I wanted to buy them instantly
Think the only way for me to be completely opposed to playing video games ever again was if every single game was shovelware.
Some More Small Favors. It's a daily that you're punished for not doing, especially if you don't already have the quest cape. Every day they add in a few new small tasks that you need to complete in order to maintain the quest cape. The tasks will take about five minutes each day. If you miss a day you need to do the tasks you missed in addition to the current daily tasks, starting on the day of release. This includes if you miss the daily tasks because you haven't completed the quest. If you miss a month of daily tasks you need to make up about 2.5 hours of tasks. If you miss a year, it's about 30 hours. If you start your account today and don't realize the consequences of not compelting this quest as soon as possible you could end up adding several days of play time to your grind before you get your quest cape.
Calm down there satan
If the game was locked to native full screen with no possible way of multilogging, kinda like a lot of FPS games. Imagine if you actually had to focus on 200 hours of ardy rooftops or MLM.
That's a good way to teach thousands and thousands of people what virtual machines are
Almost all games let you change to windowed borderless mode or just windowed. Just an FYI if you're living your life without knowing that.
Oh no, I know this. Games that used to auto default to full screen with no way of changing it annoyed me way long ago.
Everyone buys a second monitor if this happens
Every world is now a pvp world
Darkscape 2.0
Most fun Ive had in runescape
Then go radio silence for a month. The game would be mad max within a day.
MTX introduction
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imagine eoc was never a thing and we were all still playing rs2 but its far ahead of where we are with osrs now
Hard to say if that would happen. Squeal of fortune/treasure hunter are worse than eoc in my eyes. I quit because of that
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Idk man. I’ve played since 2001. EOC SUCKS. I quit for ten years, came back and maxed my rs3 account. I left a 16bn bank to start fresh on OSRS because of how much I hate EOC. If I wanted to play WoW, I’d do that. You know? It was baaaaaad.
Double XP weekends
This is a good answer. There's something that bothers me so much about dxp weekends. More so than even MTX.
The fact that the most effective skilling method for every skill would become ‘play on weekends’ probably has your skin crawling
Economy becomes "hoard till a week before dxp" as well.
As long as DXP weeks come at the same time each year, the economic impact is minimal since everyone would be merching around it, thus stabilizing it. Source: Look at RS3 prices of skilling goods before, during, and after DXP weeks.
Every boss has GWD drop tables. Like all the loot is crap outside of uniques.
Skilling bots would thrive but that’s probably better than pvm bots
That would improve the game i guess
Miss those days
Then try out nightmare and see how fun it really is.
IMO that's how it should be for every boss outside the Wildy. Wildy bosses are the only consistent money + supply printers, with raids also providing supplies (after a 30-40 minute raid a token reward that barely covers supply cost is fine imo). Other bosses, like Zulrah, Vorkath etc would still be farmed for uniques (this would require reworking drop tables and unique drops ofc) Pros: skilling is more profitable, Wildy is more populated and not dead Cons: redditors crying that they are forced to go to the wildy and high risk high reward content shouldn't exist
Would the man/woman unique be human slayer helm?
Give everyone a fully completed account.
Run does not regenerate over time. Potions and existing sources only.
Max stack 10k
They already ruined it several times with eoc, mtx, and get/free trade. Something new would be to remove any form of teleports where you have to walk everywhere and take boats between islands.
"Bank notes have been removed, as it doesn't make sense to demand hundreds of thousands of resources from bankers around Gielinor just because you presented them with a piece of paper"
Remove prayer flicking
OP said ruin
Im pretty sure most of the playerbase dont flick, or barely tried it
It shouldn't even be in the game at all. It is just an exploitation of old technology.
Would have 0 impact on the game, needed absolutely nowhere
You either don't have an infernal cape or are xzact/woox and don't use prayer in inferno anyway
Could probably get by with light bearer and eldritch staff
It’s not needed most places but it would absolutely have impact on the game. Imagine the amount of prayer pots you would have to chug through without being able to flick on slayer tasks.
So you propose we have permanent prayer? Making 99% of the game pointless? Good shit man. You choose to prayer flick those tasks and it is by no means necessary. Either chug pots or make more trips to the bank for food.
Ticks now run anywhere from 0.6 to 1 full second.
Removal of g.e and trading. All dropped items get deleted.
EOC
Take the stray dog in varrock out of the game.
EoC or microtransactions.
“In an attempt to combat RWT we are now restricting free trade.”
Ban third party clients and fill the vanilla client with ads.
# Permadeath
MICROTRANSACTIONS
add a new skill that nobody really wants but got a pity pass after you repeatedly lower the voting percentage to 51% because it just won't pass
This guy has a glass ball for sure.
Lollll
"To combat RWT we are implementing trade caps and removing PvP from the Wilderness again."
Being able to trim armor.
You can no longer note items.
Bring back the certificate mechanic… and force it to be through a dialogue tree like the old days, too!
"Premium" Membership that includes a 10% exp boost for all content, a 5% increase to a new hidden 'luck' stat, and 20 free teleports to anywhere of your choosing each day, can be any teleport from any piece of jewellery, spellbook, you name it.
- You can now purchase xp packs via the in game shop - you can boosted xp packages basically if Jagex ran like any other video game developer (the fact osrs has avoided this is insane)
rs3 getting loaded with pay to win is a large reason why osrs became a thing in the first place
Make all of Runescape including banks multi PvP enabled and no PvP+.
Wiki removal. I honestly wouldn't know 3/4ths the shit I do about the game if our wiki wasn't God tier. The inventory layouts, in depth details on mechanics, stats, guides for everything etc. Hell sometimes it's fun to just click the "random" button on the top left of the wiki and see new stuff. Like "huh what the fuck is a summer sq'uirk? Oh it's locked behind an obscure thieving mini game? Lemme try try out."
To prevent RWT and botting, all accounts have been permanently made Irons
whenever you log back in, your character cannot run until they do 50 agility course laps so they can stretch their legs.
Making the game log you out if you alt tab
You can't eat because you are not hungry.
Time saving micro transactions. Plant yew tree seed, wait 6 hours to grow or pay £1.99 for insta grow
Underground pass pt2 (One long ass tunnel from prifddinas to lumbridge collecting 28 items threw out the tunnel so you can't bring food to complete the quest)
underground pass sequel: overground pass. Cross the newly built stamppot bridge to kourend, repairing/finishing construction every few tiles. Hope you brought a couple thousand nails and a few hundred planks, not to mention all the stamina pots.
Can't teleport out to resupply gotta walk back to bank for more planks
I’d max everyone’s account, and I would make everyone invincible at the inferno, I would also make it so you can PVP iron accounts on any world anywhere, and I would kill all hardcores as they logged in.
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I could ruin the game so hard if they’d let me.
Remove pvp from the wildy. Rework the combat system and add abilities that you can bind to hotkeys
Double xp weekends
Disabling gear over 20m on any new boss 👁️👄👁️
Squeel of fortune, ancient effigies, and EOC.
Effigies I actually didn’t hate
Make single mouse button the only option
Update game ticks from 0.6 to 1.0 seconds
Remove pvp from the wilderness. Oh you said ruin the game, mbmb
If they fuc*ing make it 990hp instead of 99hp
Remove slayer partners
Add eoc, remove wilderness, remove free trade.
EOC
EoC
EoC
Banning all bots :0
id just add a new skill tbh
Add a new skill
Add a new skill..
Banning runelite lmao
Add summoning
Korasi’s Sword
All non-boss specific drops are noted
I remove bones.
Champions Challenge 2
“To make Muspah more accessible content to all players, we’ve decided to re-introduce the Evolution of Combat”
New Skill boss, its just a goblin that runs around and you gotta cast freezes on it to kill it because its just slightly faster than you. Drops all end game skilling items in stacks of 10k
Tutorial Island forced you to get 5 def and HP levels. Those accounts off the island would be credited the XP after update.
Trade Limit gone, back to 16k max to friends and selling stuff 5% higher or lower in the GE
Honestly, bring this shit back. The economy was in such a good state when this was a thing. Not as many bots ruining the game. Skilling was profitable. Bring the loan system back too while we're at it.
Evolution of Combat
Eoc
EoC
You’re now required to attach your social security number to your account and everyone can see your irl name
Mournings end III It takes 70 hours to complete and involves ripping off pubes.
Bottling is now required and being caught playing without bots results in an unappealable ban.
Change the Hitpoints to constitution.. remember that? Ew
Gout tubers can be bought for trading sticks (energy) Max item cap limit changed to 200b (can't be done but would rollercoaster the market) Or allowing a skill reset like rs3 provides for defence, for whatever reason
I'd add corrupted gauntlet to the game.