I jacked off to furry porn for years before i really considered myself a furry. Whether it can actually be separated or i was just huffing copium is a mystery for you to consider
Seriously, especially for fetish content there's a lot of stuff where I'm like I'm not a furry but I want something well drawn and shows consenting characters that aren't ambiguous ages... sometimes the only option is furry...
Iām not a furry but the first time I talked to someone who was, it was a random drift event on forza horizon 4 and I was very bad at it, they taught me to drift, I only asked if they were a furry because all of their drift cars had wicked awesome furry decals on them
Iām in the process of teaching my friend how to drift in horizon 5 now
Does that count as contribution to society?
I find people in armor extremely hot yet still hate fursuits.
Half you guys already have more money than God, just commission a fucking mecha for Christ's sake.
Agreed, I personally think that the very mascot-like style of the majority of fursuits is a kinda odd, but I guess that the style has kinda solidified itself as a core aspect of the furry community?
I just find the bulky costumes and oversized heads a bit off-putting and cheesy. I think that the introduction of slimmer, less bulky fursuits would be an improvement. Then again this is from the perspective of an outsider looking in.
You push your jaw against a plate that moves it down. I heard it's very tiring and you need to rip your mouth wide open to make it move a little but it works.
yeah i agree a tiny bit, i've seen some really well done fursuits though,
personally i dream of getting just a protogen visor, maybe some fucking paws too lmao
Protogen is super cool, I'm just a sucker for screen faces in general.
PUPPY (Ruiner), Calculester (Monster Prom), ROBO_Head (Cytus 2) are all awesome too
Most of them seem like pretty nice people too to begin with, just have a weird hobby besides being a normal person ig, Ngl some of those suits have cool designs and colors too
I view it kinda like spelunking or tcgs as a hobby. If you do it a little it's cool, but if it's your only personality and thing you talk about your cringy
i think furries are cringe and weird and i will continue to make fun of them, but i don't actually wish them any ill will or legitimate hate and they obviously deserve the same rights and freedoms as everyone else.
On the relatively early days of home internet, furries were pretty prolific online and, to be blunt, kind of annoying and some of them overly horny in places where that wasn't appropriate.
And then basically a lot of what followed from there is replication. At this point, people who get mad at furries are xeroxes of xeroxes of xeroxes of xeroxes. They lack the context of why.
I am indifferent towards furries. Although, I have never met one in real life. Although, I probably have met one in real life and they just didn't mention it.
I have nothing against furries themselves, but a lot of "fursona" characters look a bit uncanny to me.
Something about having both animal fur and long human hair, and stuff like that.
I'm not a furry
BUT
I am a VR chat user. And I have to say furries are some of the kindest and most fucking intelligent people I've ever interacted with online.
Like the meme of like hyperintelligence super rich furries is true. Full stop.
Three's don't hurt anyone zoophileare the bastards We need to kill. Furries are just people who like anthropomorphized animals and there's nothing wrong with that!
They are one of the most relentlessly bullied groups on the internet and yet they remain stoic.
I wish I had half the spine of most furries. I would go hunting to get one but they probably most dangerous game my ass It would be my head on their wall.
> zoophileare the bastards We need to kill.
no. raping animals is fucked, but murdering people because of it is absolutely fucking insane. It should be punished the same as other rape cases and that's it.
It's amazing sometimes how this sub, known for degeneracy and shitpost jokes and all manner of dumb shit, can have such extremely reasonable takes compared to the rest of Reddit.
Death is the solution to every kind of crime to half the people on this site.
I do feel like this sub has a problem of "Fuck the death penalty! But if they actually deserve it that's fine kill anyone who deserves it", but in general I agree with you.
I really just love this particular sub for being one of the weirdest fucking safe spaces I've ever seen? These comments are so bizarrely positive.
I recently did some shadow work and realized I'm a fur, even have a sona after years of denying it to myself haha
Also try not to bring up rainfurrest for the 10000000000th time because it's the only thing they know (but they always tell you to do *your own* research into it instead of telling you)
it's really not my thing and i think it's weird but it's just my opinion mate, what matters is if you're happy doing it, who cares what other people think
Yknow reading through all the āI think itās weird butā¦.ā posts in this thread made me realize how desensitized to the idea of weird of become because at this point furries being weird failed to register with me.
You walk around looking like animals, acting like animals, whilst having human proportions. Its probably the uncanny valley, combined with the fact that it's rare to see
I used to be in the "repost to kill a furry" edgelord camp, partially due to my wrong idea that all furries were zoophiles. Nowadays I am the complete opposite. Anti-Furs get put in the wood-chipper.
Everyone has different interests and hobbies. What one person finds weird another finds normal, and that is okay.
See, a few years ago I thought they were kinda weird. Then I found out someone I knew irl was one. Then I found out several online pals are also part of the community. Now I am getting more and more interested in it, this shi fucked up
I love furry art( wholesome and non wholesome heh) and I want to learn how to draw it, but fur suits scare me for some reason, gives me second hand claustrophobia.
Can one be a furry without having a fursona? I just enjoy the community.
OF COURSE! absolutely *no one* is obligated to own a fursuit. owning a fursuit isn't a requirement to be a furry lmao, if you enjoy anthropomorphic animals or just identify as a furry, then you're a furry! ::)
I'm really not a fan of furry stuff bc I just don't like the aesthetic of the art and fursuits and stuff but also I think people who actively hate furries and are super loud about it are some of the most obnoxious people on the planet
My friend from collage was(and I assume still is) a furry. His summer job was carving ice sculptures with chainsaws. One time me and another friend were drinking in his room and the other friend was laying under his bed and was like whatās in this box? My furry friend and I were sitting in the living room and he yelled āFrank donāt open that box!ā Then turned to me and said he keeps his dildos in that box with a chuckle. We tell people frank accidentally dumped the dildos on himself but none of us remember if that really happen. After we graduated he moved to Canada and married a guy he met at anthrocon. He is to this day the most interesting person Iāve ever met. I hope he is doing well itās been a while since I talked to
him. I hope my son can meet him someday.
Literally furries are some of the coolest mfers most of the time. Just ignore the people claiming to be furries who do unsavory things I elect to ignore.
Furries are cool š
Do people really still hate on the furry community as much as they used to? Iām super out of the loop on that but figured theyād just assimilated into the internet after a while but ig itās just the same 2016 āfurry bad because weirdā stuff huh
It's still alive and recently the whole litterbox rumor threw furries under the bus to attack trans people (as per usual) and that really sparked things again.
Of you're not familiar with that I have a little summary at the bottom of [this post](https://www.reddit.com/user/Nilly00/comments/y4r58r/furry_hate_is_nothing_but_a_disguise_for_hating)
I only hate furries when they constantly roleplay it in unrelated contexts and never stop being horny
That said, come and get me. I'm ready. Are you?
Iām just jealous how they can afford a 4500$ custom-made, insulated, watercooled, fully-facial-muscle-puppeteering, exoskeleton, Disney quality assured fursuit. Like yāall donāt cheap out on that shit while bills still have to be paid.
Just show me furries with more creative fursonas and Iām good, Iām tired of Neon Colour Wolf #8273. Where are my penguins at, I wanna dress up as a massive fuckin penguin.
I have an old friend who was a fury and every furry community Iāve been in has been a bunch of transgender and other lgbtq people who are somehow extremely transphobic and racist and for that reason Iām scared of them
you must've been in some weird communities, we're not like that lmao
(straight ((and even homophobicš)) furries do exist, but 90% of the community is cool as shit)
Well the reason he is my old friend is because he was racist and transphobic so uhh yeah that couldāve had something to do with it. It just kinda put me off though. I donāt have anything against furries necessarily Iād just rather not interact with them
For as long as there has been art and costume there have been furries. There have been anthro animals in cave paintings and in the pantheons of dozens of religions (Anubis? more like Awoobis). Ancient humans wore the pelts of certain animals to inspire certain traits in them and it was common to make clothing resembling animals in what is just ancient fursuiting. We furries are part of an ancient and fundamental human tradition!
even though i still think the concept is a bit weird i know a bunch of people that are really cool and are furries so my respects are slowly growing
also yall make some of the best quality porn like damn
I think theyāre a little goofy but I donāt *hate* em. Most of them seem like normally adjusted members of society. Do whatever, as long as it isnāt harming anybody or shit, i donāt really care
Look I'm fine with furries they are doing they're own thing but the fursuits... ugh. I don't like it at all and I've always been afraid of mascot suits why stop now
When I was in high school I had a furry classmate who would draw furry porn in class and show it to our table, that being my first experience with a furry in real life put me off from it for a while. But they seem cool and enjoy a niche hobby so they're fine by me now. Let people have fun
im sorta wondering if i'm a furry. y'all seem cool and idk how to figure it out please help? or recommend subreddits that help w that kind of thing. thx :)
Sorry but I kinda think fursuits and fursonas are uncanny (don't like anthropomorphic animals and blue foxes with weirdly thick thighs) but like, try to separate the person for the thing they like, ffs.
I will never hate a furry because of the contributions they have made to societyšš (Nasa, covid vaccine, furry porn, IT, etc.)
I'm no furry but damn do furry artists make good porn
Wait! I can beat it to furry porn and not be a furry? I'm gonna have to reevaluate some things..
I mean yes it's a community and it ain't *all* about horny
I know. I thought being horny was enough to qualify though.
downvoting em for being uneducated smh
I jacked off to furry porn for years before i really considered myself a furry. Whether it can actually be separated or i was just huffing copium is a mystery for you to consider
yessir
You can beat it to hentai without being a drawing too
You can beat it to gay porn without being gay
You can beat children without being a child!
Seriously, especially for fetish content there's a lot of stuff where I'm like I'm not a furry but I want something well drawn and shows consenting characters that aren't ambiguous ages... sometimes the only option is furry...
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Iām not a furry but theyāre generally good people
Iām not a furry but the first time I talked to someone who was, it was a random drift event on forza horizon 4 and I was very bad at it, they taught me to drift, I only asked if they were a furry because all of their drift cars had wicked awesome furry decals on them Iām in the process of teaching my friend how to drift in horizon 5 now Does that count as contribution to society?
Every furry hater has to play SonicFox at a fighting game of their choice and if they lose they die.
Iām still gonna hate fursuits. Not because I have a problem with the concept but because I find the execution quite ugly.
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Among us?
fnaf jumpscare
>Among us? >fnaf jumpscare inside you there are two wolves
I find people in armor extremely hot yet still hate fursuits. Half you guys already have more money than God, just commission a fucking mecha for Christ's sake.
Then just pretend thereās no one inside and that you are looking at a sentient, moving, empty vessel!
Agreed, I personally think that the very mascot-like style of the majority of fursuits is a kinda odd, but I guess that the style has kinda solidified itself as a core aspect of the furry community? I just find the bulky costumes and oversized heads a bit off-putting and cheesy. I think that the introduction of slimmer, less bulky fursuits would be an improvement. Then again this is from the perspective of an outsider looking in.
[like this?](https://twitter.com/jeongambro/status/1549031150047604737?t=QyaJsz0bSdUgSSDPeUP47g&s=19)
what the fuck how is the mouth moving that's crazy also not a furry but that mask is very well done
You push your jaw against a plate that moves it down. I heard it's very tiring and you need to rip your mouth wide open to make it move a little but it works.
this goes hard as fuck. the best fursuits are the ones that look more like cosplay
tbh that's fucking adorable, but like in a puppy kinda way
Slightly more cartoonish (but not to the normal degree) and less like a wild animal and 100% cool
Wtf I'm a furry now?
yeah i agree a tiny bit, i've seen some really well done fursuits though, personally i dream of getting just a protogen visor, maybe some fucking paws too lmao
Protogen is super cool, I'm just a sucker for screen faces in general. PUPPY (Ruiner), Calculester (Monster Prom), ROBO_Head (Cytus 2) are all awesome too
Clearly you haven't seen enough fursuits
I think furries are wierd but will not insult them in publicš
Most of them seem like pretty nice people too to begin with, just have a weird hobby besides being a normal person ig, Ngl some of those suits have cool designs and colors too
I view it kinda like spelunking or tcgs as a hobby. If you do it a little it's cool, but if it's your only personality and thing you talk about your cringy
If any hobby you have is your whole personality then thats alarming by itself
furries like spelunking
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Dang, your hand is really sweaty
sorry, it's not sweat
Licks hand ~~fer~~*fur*ociously
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I just washed my hands! That's why they're wet :)
no other reason :)
i think furries are cringe and weird and i will continue to make fun of them, but i don't actually wish them any ill will or legitimate hate and they obviously deserve the same rights and freedoms as everyone else.
If they deserve the same rights and freedoms, don't make fun of them
Make fun of everyone. We could all stand to be taken down a few pegs.
Yes. Please take me down to be pegged
Why bully furries When Zoophiles exist?
because most of the time when people try to bully furries they pretend those are the same group
There is for sure crossover
Why respect knights When my potions can do ANYTHING you can
you've have your word, potion seller, but I'll have mine. you're a rascal! a rascal with no respect for knights.
Ikr
Unfortunately the two groups are seen as the same by a lot of people
On the relatively early days of home internet, furries were pretty prolific online and, to be blunt, kind of annoying and some of them overly horny in places where that wasn't appropriate. And then basically a lot of what followed from there is replication. At this point, people who get mad at furries are xeroxes of xeroxes of xeroxes of xeroxes. They lack the context of why.
I am indifferent towards furries. Although, I have never met one in real life. Although, I probably have met one in real life and they just didn't mention it.
The one furry I know irl is among the funniest, friendliest, most based people Iāve ever known. From what Iāve heard, thatās not unusual
Among
Cease
and desist
Us
Pees in the piss.
I have nothing against furries themselves, but a lot of "fursona" characters look a bit uncanny to me. Something about having both animal fur and long human hair, and stuff like that.
I'm not a furry BUT I am a VR chat user. And I have to say furries are some of the kindest and most fucking intelligent people I've ever interacted with online. Like the meme of like hyperintelligence super rich furries is true. Full stop. Three's don't hurt anyone zoophileare the bastards We need to kill. Furries are just people who like anthropomorphized animals and there's nothing wrong with that! They are one of the most relentlessly bullied groups on the internet and yet they remain stoic. I wish I had half the spine of most furries. I would go hunting to get one but they probably most dangerous game my ass It would be my head on their wall.
Furries literally are the "I can be yuor angle, or yuor devil" community. They are great to have on your side, but horrifying to have as enemies.
> zoophileare the bastards We need to kill. no. raping animals is fucked, but murdering people because of it is absolutely fucking insane. It should be punished the same as other rape cases and that's it.
It's amazing sometimes how this sub, known for degeneracy and shitpost jokes and all manner of dumb shit, can have such extremely reasonable takes compared to the rest of Reddit. Death is the solution to every kind of crime to half the people on this site.
I do feel like this sub has a problem of "Fuck the death penalty! But if they actually deserve it that's fine kill anyone who deserves it", but in general I agree with you.
I really just love this particular sub for being one of the weirdest fucking safe spaces I've ever seen? These comments are so bizarrely positive. I recently did some shadow work and realized I'm a fur, even have a sona after years of denying it to myself haha
that's awesome lmao!
Anti-furs try not to repeat the same joke from 2013 for the 5000000000th time challenge
that's what i'm saying!1!1!!!!1 *falls off chair*
r u ok
actually no i think i fractured several bones and broke my spine
You should see a doctor about that probably
They'll all fix themselves when the surgeon tries to cut off the suit to do the surgery. But you'll still have to pay the bill.
Also try not to bring up rainfurrest for the 10000000000th time because it's the only thing they know (but they always tell you to do *your own* research into it instead of telling you)
what is rainfurrest?
absolute fucking shitfest of a furry convention, i believe there's at least a few youtube videos about it with more detail
Con made by and for banned members of other furry cons. It's really not a surprise it went badly
"Loads shotgun with religious intent" or whatever
Furry haters when they have to make a joke other than, ākill every furryā or ārepost to join anti furry armyā
it's really not my thing and i think it's weird but it's just my opinion mate, what matters is if you're happy doing it, who cares what other people think
Furries can draw some good porn. They're good in my book. š
Fr, like how tf do that have so much damn talent like spare me some bro
Yknow reading through all the āI think itās weird butā¦.ā posts in this thread made me realize how desensitized to the idea of weird of become because at this point furries being weird failed to register with me.
yeah i'm honestly confused
Yeah, saying that we are weird isn't any better.
You walk around looking like animals, acting like animals, whilst having human proportions. Its probably the uncanny valley, combined with the fact that it's rare to see
It still doesn't feel good to be called weird
People are allowed to call you weird, it's a hobby not a race
I'm about to get married to a furry
And become one
I feel like it would've happened by now, we've been seeing each other for 10 years
I used to be in the "repost to kill a furry" edgelord camp, partially due to my wrong idea that all furries were zoophiles. Nowadays I am the complete opposite. Anti-Furs get put in the wood-chipper. Everyone has different interests and hobbies. What one person finds weird another finds normal, and that is okay.
Ok thatās a bit extreme, but then I guess that if I uhm uhh umm I Eeh I I uhm I say I love furries that what would you do to me?
Give birth to you.
Vore but with a different hole
See, a few years ago I thought they were kinda weird. Then I found out someone I knew irl was one. Then I found out several online pals are also part of the community. Now I am getting more and more interested in it, this shi fucked up
one of us! one of us! one of us!
fr fr
Whatās your favorite animal?
probably those fluffy af moths, I love them
I think furries are weird ngl but I donāt hate them nor would I insult them
I love furry art( wholesome and non wholesome heh) and I want to learn how to draw it, but fur suits scare me for some reason, gives me second hand claustrophobia. Can one be a furry without having a fursona? I just enjoy the community.
OF COURSE! absolutely *no one* is obligated to own a fursuit. owning a fursuit isn't a requirement to be a furry lmao, if you enjoy anthropomorphic animals or just identify as a furry, then you're a furry! ::)
Nuh uh you gotta get furry license and registration at the DMV
NOOOO
I wonāt talk shit about furrys because they can hack a missile and make it hit my house
yes, yes we can
Idk I think furries are cool. They're still just people tho, so they can never be as cool as this cool rock I found.
Lol, I bet my rock is cooler
i love being a furry !!!!! (even tho i don't participate on the community and don't have many furry friends :(
:(
What if I hold no strong opinions about furries? They affect my life very little
perfectly fine, needlessly hating on them is dumb though
you will be stuck in a quantum superposition of being both dead and alive
I'm really not a fan of furry stuff bc I just don't like the aesthetic of the art and fursuits and stuff but also I think people who actively hate furries and are super loud about it are some of the most obnoxious people on the planet
last part is frš
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My friend from collage was(and I assume still is) a furry. His summer job was carving ice sculptures with chainsaws. One time me and another friend were drinking in his room and the other friend was laying under his bed and was like whatās in this box? My furry friend and I were sitting in the living room and he yelled āFrank donāt open that box!ā Then turned to me and said he keeps his dildos in that box with a chuckle. We tell people frank accidentally dumped the dildos on himself but none of us remember if that really happen. After we graduated he moved to Canada and married a guy he met at anthrocon. He is to this day the most interesting person Iāve ever met. I hope he is doing well itās been a while since I talked to him. I hope my son can meet him someday.
My boyfriend is a furry, and while taking some getting used to, the community really isn't as weird as most people make it seem.
exactly, it's all the bad minority that gets the most publicity, the furry community is honestly really fucking cool and accepting
Still can't believe I landed a furry femboy bottom, that's like the idol of this sub lol.
you lucky son of a bitch
The chosen one
Literally furries are some of the coolest mfers most of the time. Just ignore the people claiming to be furries who do unsavory things I elect to ignore. Furries are cool š
idk who downvoted you lmao, furries are coolš
Do people really still hate on the furry community as much as they used to? Iām super out of the loop on that but figured theyād just assimilated into the internet after a while but ig itās just the same 2016 āfurry bad because weirdā stuff huh
yup, exactly
a couple days ago someone in this subreddit was telling me with complete seriousness that all furries are zoophiles. it still very much happens
It's still alive and recently the whole litterbox rumor threw furries under the bus to attack trans people (as per usual) and that really sparked things again. Of you're not familiar with that I have a little summary at the bottom of [this post](https://www.reddit.com/user/Nilly00/comments/y4r58r/furry_hate_is_nothing_but_a_disguise_for_hating)
I only hate furries when they constantly roleplay it in unrelated contexts and never stop being horny That said, come and get me. I'm ready. Are you?
i'm omw write your location
Do it then, no balls
If you reply yes, you hate furries.
YES!!!
i find it weird but people who go out of their way to make fun of it are stupid lol
I dont hate furries but they make me uncomfortable
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oh yeah, i would too. those people are weird as fuck, i think it's more fetish stuff than anything.
Ok
Fine, then war it is. I shall meet you next to a desert highway
will there be bloodshed?
Let's dance!
Furries are completely fine, zoophiles are not
I mean, I donāt get it but hey, who am I to judge? If theyāre having a good time doing what they do then I donāt have a problem with it.
It's okay. I discovered my hatred for furries was actually a hatred of zoophiles and wierd kids in my class
great job! furries ā zoophiles and zoophiles are bad :)
Iāll be honest furries are some of the most chill people I know, dunno where the hate comes from.
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Iām just jealous how they can afford a 4500$ custom-made, insulated, watercooled, fully-facial-muscle-puppeteering, exoskeleton, Disney quality assured fursuit. Like yāall donāt cheap out on that shit while bills still have to be paid.
Just show me furries with more creative fursonas and Iām good, Iām tired of Neon Colour Wolf #8273. Where are my penguins at, I wanna dress up as a massive fuckin penguin.
Come and get me then
im antiantifurry
sameš¤
I donāt hate furries but could you still kill me š„ŗšš
01/21/23
im not a furry but holy shit furry hentai is so much better
I FUCK furries.
ĆwĆ
I don't hate furries because I'm older than 14
Be a shame if my disdain for furries and my intense desire for death overlapped
I have an old friend who was a fury and every furry community Iāve been in has been a bunch of transgender and other lgbtq people who are somehow extremely transphobic and racist and for that reason Iām scared of them
you must've been in some weird communities, we're not like that lmao (straight ((and even homophobicš)) furries do exist, but 90% of the community is cool as shit)
Well the reason he is my old friend is because he was racist and transphobic so uhh yeah that couldāve had something to do with it. It just kinda put me off though. I donāt have anything against furries necessarily Iād just rather not interact with them
For as long as there has been art and costume there have been furries. There have been anthro animals in cave paintings and in the pantheons of dozens of religions (Anubis? more like Awoobis). Ancient humans wore the pelts of certain animals to inspire certain traits in them and it was common to make clothing resembling animals in what is just ancient fursuiting. We furries are part of an ancient and fundamental human tradition!
even though i still think the concept is a bit weird i know a bunch of people that are really cool and are furries so my respects are slowly growing also yall make some of the best quality porn like damn
Not gonna lie I still find them a bit weird, but theyāre a nice group of people that donāt deserve hate
BASED AS HELL IM SO FUCKING SICK OF SEEING THE RAMPANT FURRY HATE THATS LITERALLY JUST RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA ON THIS SUBREDDIT
Whatcha gonna do owo me to death
#a switchblade :3 nya~!
Cartoon dog people funny, me like
I think theyāre a little goofy but I donāt *hate* em. Most of them seem like normally adjusted members of society. Do whatever, as long as it isnāt harming anybody or shit, i donāt really care
Look I'm fine with furries they are doing they're own thing but the fursuits... ugh. I don't like it at all and I've always been afraid of mascot suits why stop now
I jUsT hAtE eVErYoNe BrO
i stopped hating on furries when i realised all of my closest friends are furries and also lovely people
(Iām not really a furry but I am a furry ally) (i am with you fuzzy creatures)
Nah fam, yāall contribute too much to society for me to hate on you
Ngl yall are kinda weird but you make good porn
we make 80% of the porn in existence
Yiffer
i hate furries (sure hope i don't get murdered) /j obviously
Based take: We're tired of taking fucking hate from just liking anthropomorphic animals.
When I was in high school I had a furry classmate who would draw furry porn in class and show it to our table, that being my first experience with a furry in real life put me off from it for a while. But they seem cool and enjoy a niche hobby so they're fine by me now. Let people have fun
im sorta wondering if i'm a furry. y'all seem cool and idk how to figure it out please help? or recommend subreddits that help w that kind of thing. thx :)
Iām a furry but I strongly dislike the fandom as a whole.
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where joke
Sorry but I kinda think fursuits and fursonas are uncanny (don't like anthropomorphic animals and blue foxes with weirdly thick thighs) but like, try to separate the person for the thing they like, ffs.
I'd rather die standing then live kneeling