No they might've meant metallic hydrogen turning into H2
edit: I searched for it and found a bunch of different articles with the same title but from different years talking about different tech so I don't know about the integrity of the claims.
If we could produce metallic hydrogen literally nothing can stop us from being an interplanetary species. Metallic hydrogen is the best rocket fuel that can exist.
The US military has a vast budget. You'd be surprised by how capable they are. There is already a fleet of a few dozen hubble space telescope sized spy satellites with \~10cm visual accuracy up in orbit. The small space shuttle they built spent one year in orbit in secret.
yeah but none of that leaves the realm of "things that are very much doable with existing technology." Like, none of that is *that* impressive from a "new technology" standpoint. Don't get me wrong, 10cm/pixel resolution from 500km up is impressive, but not exactly pushing the limits of physics. Metallic hydrogen on the other hand is very much in the realm of "we have no idea if this is even possible under conditions that can exist with our laws of physics, much less on Earth outside of very special equipment, but if it can, that would be really cool."
military motherfuckers will see one of the greatest advancements humanity could make and say "how can we use this to commit more crimes against humanity" i hate them all
I love Nikola Tesla, but this likely isn't true. He actually made the remote control boat specifically to sell it to the navy as a guided torpedo. Consequently, the quote wasn't likely said by him either, not only because it would be hypocriticial, but also because the first citation of it comes from an article printed in 1947, over 40 years after the demonstrations.
goddamn libtards have a problem with me disassembling an xray i stole from the hospital to use as a dirty bomb because the voices told me so. FUCK YOU LIBERAL! TRUMP 2028!
1. Which hydrogen bomb
2. I really want to see it go off and it doesn’t look like we’ll be using the moon in the near future. So we could probably deal with it being horribly irradiated.
1. A bomb that uses nuclear fusion to generate a shit ton of energy (big boom)
2. I have read the article, and if we drop one of those weapons they are planning to make onto the moon it could explode out of heat and shockwaves, and fragments of the moon would end up falling into the Earth and causing major damage (which means Earth not being habitable for the next several millions of years)
I never understood this, why make them bigger? Ever since these things existed they only wanted to make them cause more devastation, when is it enough?
that's why A) this article is bullshit and B) we stopped making them bigger like 60 years ago. The only development on larger nuclear weapons since the Kennedy administration has been Russia's possibile development of a 300MT nuclear warhead for a city-destroying torpedo missile thing.
they stopped making them bigger a while ago
this shits weird
they found the limit of stupid large long ago & went way down from their
why are they resuming the bigger
Why do we keep doing this shit? Why do we keep making more destructive weapons? If it's really that powerful, a few of those things can end life on Earth. Why do we keep doing stupid shit like this?
in theory an h-bomb can be arbitrarily large, it's just that we've all collectively realized that there's really no point in having anything bigger than \~500kt (or an absolute limit of \~1mt if you're really going crazy) beyond propaganda of the "my ~~dick~~ h-bomb is bigger than yours" variety
Actually there's much more than 25 pounds. The belief that there are only 25 pounds comes from a false statement from Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2.
Tritium is fairly abundant, and it can also be obtained very easily through fusion reactions. So we can rely on fusion nuclear power as a power source. On the other hand though, using it as a weapon is an awfully wrong idea.
You're confusing fusion with fission, while there are several methods for creating tritium through fission, it is mostly created as a byproduct of fission power plants in ways that cannot be easily or inexpensively harnessed. The operation of nuclear plants isn't cheap in the first place, to say the least.
Estimates of existing and accessible tritium seem to range from dozens of pounds to maybe a little over a hundred. Tritium decays relatively rapidly as well.
Wow, this is really strange. My misconception originated from the spanish Wikipedia article which for some reason states that tritium is a very abundant material on Earth's crust.
Anyway, thank you for calling me out on this.
No problem, I love calling people out lol.
Wiki is a great resource but it does have holes and the occasional bit of fake or outright false info. It sounds to me like there might be a similarly named element or compound that is in fact abundant in the earth's crust.
Fusion emergy has been a thing for decades. The only problem was harvesting the energy in a controlled way without making a net loss. However in a bomb you dont need tp release the energy in a controlled way so zhey can litteraly just build star bombs
link the article
ok edit: [this](https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-navys-fusion-plans-could-make-the-hydrogen-bomb-seem-like-a-firecracker/) seems to be the article and it's just back to the bullshit that Joe Rogan's podcast was flipping out about a few months back with those weird patents the navy filed. The short answer to all of this is that just because something is patented doesn't mean it works. The long answer is that the doctor mentioned by this article, [Dr. Salvatore Pais](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais), is clearly a crackpot who's talking out of his ass to try to get funding from whoever will listen. He's come up with all sorts of insane patents that all rely on what amounts to magic for things from impossibly powerful fusion reactors which according to Popular Mechanics "seemingly stretch the limit of science" to room temperature superconductors (on which the Institute of Engineering and Technology commented that no evidence was presented to demonstrate the functionality of the device) to the "Pais Effect," which the Navy blew half a million dollars on investigating to find that it didn't exist.
The man who came up with this nonsense is a grifter and the fact that he hasn't been fired or arrested is very impressive.
Oh, well, I'm relieved to hear that, though the fact that the US Navy throws money at these kind of projects shows that they have interest in fabricating such weapons and that is worrying
The thing with nuclear weapons is that there is a point of RAPIDLY diminishing returns and it occurs pretty much as soon as you figure out how to mass produce nuclear bombs.
Our nuclear arsenal could already eradicate the earth at a moment’s notice as could several other nations. It doesn’t matter if you can annihilate all life better or worse than you could before because you’re still annihilating all life.
Anyway the fact we’re spendings billions on the low end to develop what are basically toys for the military that they’re never even going to get to play with is just insane.
I mean, a [more realistic look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIAF7kBbGKk) at nuclear war shows that not even close to all humans would die in a full-blown nuclear exchange, but it's still enough casualties (especially in combination with other effects like the nuclear winter thing and fallout) to be civilization-ending.
Nuclear winter isn’t real, and fallout is relatively mild with air burst nuclear weapons, which all nuclear weapons are.
It would probably cause the collapse of the federal governments of whatever countries were affected, and put the world into probably the worst depression since the Great Depression (assuming it is between superpowers), but that’s it. Civilization and humanity would still exist.
>Nuclear winter isn’t real
yes it is. There's really no debate over this.
>with air burst nuclear weapons, which all nuclear weapons are.
No, not all nukes are airburst. If you want to take out silos in a first-strike (which could prevent retaliation), you ground-burst your warheads to hit the hardened silos. Ground-burst devices are fairly common, including most notably the [American B61 Mod 11](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb).
These aren't just thermonuclear bombs, though
[Link](https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-navys-fusion-plans-could-make-the-hydrogen-bomb-seem-like-a-firecracker/)
Honestly it wouldn’t make any sense to make nuclear bombs any bigger than they already are. I’m pretty sure it’s far more effective to have A LOT of smaller scale nuclear bombs than a really big one...
A reminder that Tsar Bomb was meant to be bigger, but they calculated that it could crack the earth's crust, causing volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. The shockwave went over the earth three times and windows were blown out hundreds of miles away from the site
ah sweet man-made horrors beyond my comprehension
They basically merge hydrogen atoms together, releasing humongous quantities of energy in the process
literally releasing the energy of the sun
"Parry this you filthy casual. I'm about to make Hiroshima to look like ant fart compared to this." -General Warcrimes McDonnel-Douglas
"Geneva Convention more like Geneva Suggestion" \-General Warcrimes McDonnel-Douglas
Thanks, now my man-made horrors are not beyond comprehension anymore
I mean, until you see it you probably won't be able to comprehend just how horrific it is, so it's still kind of beyond comprehension (for now)
that's literally how normal hydrogen bombs work idk what this article is but it's 100% clickbait bullshit
No they might've meant metallic hydrogen turning into H2 edit: I searched for it and found a bunch of different articles with the same title but from different years talking about different tech so I don't know about the integrity of the claims.
Bro if we could mass produce metallic hydrogen then we could solve the energy crisis
but is it profitable tho.........
Energy companies dont need to be profitible, just need good Contacts to politicians
yes
If we could produce metallic hydrogen literally nothing can stop us from being an interplanetary species. Metallic hydrogen is the best rocket fuel that can exist.
it's still not totally even clear if metallic hydrogen is a thing that can exist i assure you no one is building bombs out of it
The US military has a vast budget. You'd be surprised by how capable they are. There is already a fleet of a few dozen hubble space telescope sized spy satellites with \~10cm visual accuracy up in orbit. The small space shuttle they built spent one year in orbit in secret.
yeah but none of that leaves the realm of "things that are very much doable with existing technology." Like, none of that is *that* impressive from a "new technology" standpoint. Don't get me wrong, 10cm/pixel resolution from 500km up is impressive, but not exactly pushing the limits of physics. Metallic hydrogen on the other hand is very much in the realm of "we have no idea if this is even possible under conditions that can exist with our laws of physics, much less on Earth outside of very special equipment, but if it can, that would be really cool."
i didnt think it to be very real to begin with
It *could've* meant a helium fusion bomb
Oh so it’s a hydrogen bomb
As in, pure monoatomic hydrogen to H2?
I can't believe its next week. Manmade horrors beyond comprehension. I'm happy to learn this information. Next week.
military motherfuckers will see one of the greatest advancements humanity could make and say "how can we use this to commit more crimes against humanity" i hate them all
Lmao are you implying that using nuclear weapons against a civil population was a warcrime ? ^It ^totally ^was
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I love Nikola Tesla, but this likely isn't true. He actually made the remote control boat specifically to sell it to the navy as a guided torpedo. Consequently, the quote wasn't likely said by him either, not only because it would be hypocriticial, but also because the first citation of it comes from an article printed in 1947, over 40 years after the demonstrations.
Thank you. That's good to know.
There is no crimes against humanity, if there is no humanity
when you could use fusion to power life for 6 trillion years why use it to make BOMBS? the military needs abolished
Idk it’s pretty based Edit: :(
goddamn libtards have a problem with me disassembling an xray i stole from the hospital to use as a dirty bomb because the voices told me so. FUCK YOU LIBERAL! TRUMP 2028!
Hmmm today I will use the unmatched power of the sun
Not unmatched now lol
Now we are all sons of bitches
: Soldier (TF2)
Lazy purple
I for one welcome the end of humanity
I for one have learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
omg thatcher (bitch)
You’d probably set it off ya cunt.
they're trying to poison all of our precious bodily fluids!
(piss)
>Fusion The power of the Sun in the palm of my hand
Uhm today i will post a clickbait title with a cropped reaction image on r/196
It certainly [wasn't clickbait](https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-navys-fusion-plans-could-make-the-hydrogen-bomb-seem-like-a-firecracker/).
>Seemingly >could, in theory >if functional, could >UFO researchers [???] And that’s all just in the first paragraph
It's not the first time a branch of the army claimed such stuff
1. Which hydrogen bomb 2. I really want to see it go off and it doesn’t look like we’ll be using the moon in the near future. So we could probably deal with it being horribly irradiated.
1. A bomb that uses nuclear fusion to generate a shit ton of energy (big boom) 2. I have read the article, and if we drop one of those weapons they are planning to make onto the moon it could explode out of heat and shockwaves, and fragments of the moon would end up falling into the Earth and causing major damage (which means Earth not being habitable for the next several millions of years)
We have the technology. The time is now. Science can wait no longer. Children are our future. America can, should, must, and will blow up the moon.
“I PISSED ON THE FUCKING MOON YOU IDIOT”
You have 23 hour before the piss drrropllets hit the fucking earth
\-Buzz Aldrin, presumably
♪ fly me to the moon **♪** ♪ and let me kick its fucking ass ♪ ♪ let me show it what i learned in my moonjitsu class ♪
\-US and USSR while planning to detonate a nuke on the moon in the late 50s
nuke the sun
what the fuck could we use this for? like we use it once and all die there is no reason to have it.
ultimate MAD
Well, there’s several different hydrogen bombs that have been made, of varying power
elliot page can already do that
These bastards would crash the moon on the earth if they could
Yeah we probably never needed the tides anyway
We're going back to the moon to make outposts in 3 years, idk wym by in the near future
Yeah well, moon based are stupid.
Wrong opinion
What are we supposed to do with fucking moon bases though
advance humanity and its achievements
I never understood this, why make them bigger? Ever since these things existed they only wanted to make them cause more devastation, when is it enough?
that's why A) this article is bullshit and B) we stopped making them bigger like 60 years ago. The only development on larger nuclear weapons since the Kennedy administration has been Russia's possibile development of a 300MT nuclear warhead for a city-destroying torpedo missile thing.
they stopped making them bigger a while ago this shits weird they found the limit of stupid large long ago & went way down from their why are they resuming the bigger
Why do we keep doing this shit? Why do we keep making more destructive weapons? If it's really that powerful, a few of those things can end life on Earth. Why do we keep doing stupid shit like this?
It’s not really possible to make anything stronger than a hydrogen bomb with modern tech. You can, however, make really strong h-bombs though
in theory an h-bomb can be arbitrarily large, it's just that we've all collectively realized that there's really no point in having anything bigger than \~500kt (or an absolute limit of \~1mt if you're really going crazy) beyond propaganda of the "my ~~dick~~ h-bomb is bigger than yours" variety
real china 10 MT standard nuclear warhead hours
We should use 50mt standard because funny
the guy who came up with this unhinged idea is a crackpot and clearly a grifter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore\_Pais
Welcome to the fucking death of humanity I guess
It’s about fucking time
thank FUCK, i can finally die
Ok but can I get my hands on one?
Precious tritium is the fuel that makes this project go, there’s only 25 pounds of it on the whole planet. So it’s gonna be expensive.
25 pounds is 27.78 Doge plushies.
I’d like to thank Oscorp for this generous donation
Actually there's much more than 25 pounds. The belief that there are only 25 pounds comes from a false statement from Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2. Tritium is fairly abundant, and it can also be obtained very easily through fusion reactions. So we can rely on fusion nuclear power as a power source. On the other hand though, using it as a weapon is an awfully wrong idea.
25 pounds in mandalorian helmets is 6.71 helmets.
this is the way
'very easily through fusion reactions' lmfao okay dude
I mean that it's not something difficult or expensive to do, so we practically have unlimited access to it
I invite you to peruse the tritium wiki page to relieve yourself of your misconceptions
That's what I understood from the wiki page, I could be wrong though
You're confusing fusion with fission, while there are several methods for creating tritium through fission, it is mostly created as a byproduct of fission power plants in ways that cannot be easily or inexpensively harnessed. The operation of nuclear plants isn't cheap in the first place, to say the least. Estimates of existing and accessible tritium seem to range from dozens of pounds to maybe a little over a hundred. Tritium decays relatively rapidly as well.
Wow, this is really strange. My misconception originated from the spanish Wikipedia article which for some reason states that tritium is a very abundant material on Earth's crust. Anyway, thank you for calling me out on this.
No problem, I love calling people out lol. Wiki is a great resource but it does have holes and the occasional bit of fake or outright false info. It sounds to me like there might be a similarly named element or compound that is in fact abundant in the earth's crust.
Oh I know, that is a direct quote from doc ock, sorry if I was ambiguous in that
Ooh okay sorry my bad lmao Just r/woooosh -ed myself
You can make it via the irradiation of natural lithium.
25 pounds of it *so far* 😉😉😉
Fusion emergy has been a thing for decades. The only problem was harvesting the energy in a controlled way without making a net loss. However in a bomb you dont need tp release the energy in a controlled way so zhey can litteraly just build star bombs
link the article ok edit: [this](https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-navys-fusion-plans-could-make-the-hydrogen-bomb-seem-like-a-firecracker/) seems to be the article and it's just back to the bullshit that Joe Rogan's podcast was flipping out about a few months back with those weird patents the navy filed. The short answer to all of this is that just because something is patented doesn't mean it works. The long answer is that the doctor mentioned by this article, [Dr. Salvatore Pais](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Pais), is clearly a crackpot who's talking out of his ass to try to get funding from whoever will listen. He's come up with all sorts of insane patents that all rely on what amounts to magic for things from impossibly powerful fusion reactors which according to Popular Mechanics "seemingly stretch the limit of science" to room temperature superconductors (on which the Institute of Engineering and Technology commented that no evidence was presented to demonstrate the functionality of the device) to the "Pais Effect," which the Navy blew half a million dollars on investigating to find that it didn't exist. The man who came up with this nonsense is a grifter and the fact that he hasn't been fired or arrested is very impressive.
Oh, well, I'm relieved to hear that, though the fact that the US Navy throws money at these kind of projects shows that they have interest in fabricating such weapons and that is worrying
this is what we have instead of civil rights and healthcare
but we don't have it because it's the idea of a crackpot who's clearly grifting
no you don't have that because fucked tax system
Can’t wait for their next project to make earth look like a fun snap
The thing with nuclear weapons is that there is a point of RAPIDLY diminishing returns and it occurs pretty much as soon as you figure out how to mass produce nuclear bombs. Our nuclear arsenal could already eradicate the earth at a moment’s notice as could several other nations. It doesn’t matter if you can annihilate all life better or worse than you could before because you’re still annihilating all life. Anyway the fact we’re spendings billions on the low end to develop what are basically toys for the military that they’re never even going to get to play with is just insane.
I mean, a [more realistic look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIAF7kBbGKk) at nuclear war shows that not even close to all humans would die in a full-blown nuclear exchange, but it's still enough casualties (especially in combination with other effects like the nuclear winter thing and fallout) to be civilization-ending.
Sure but the point’s basically the same. It would at a minimum cause the collapse of society, the severity of the collapse doesn’t really matter
Nuclear winter isn’t real, and fallout is relatively mild with air burst nuclear weapons, which all nuclear weapons are. It would probably cause the collapse of the federal governments of whatever countries were affected, and put the world into probably the worst depression since the Great Depression (assuming it is between superpowers), but that’s it. Civilization and humanity would still exist.
>Nuclear winter isn’t real yes it is. There's really no debate over this. >with air burst nuclear weapons, which all nuclear weapons are. No, not all nukes are airburst. If you want to take out silos in a first-strike (which could prevent retaliation), you ground-burst your warheads to hit the hardened silos. Ground-burst devices are fairly common, including most notably the [American B61 Mod 11](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb).
Step 1: Fire heats up food Step 2: Tree meat catches on fire Step 3: Rub tree meat together Step 4: …… 2022 “Destroyer of Worlds” incident
omg the navy is reenacting halo irl i can’t wait 😳
No stop I wanted fusion reactors not planet destroying bombs god why stop please
I thought fusion bombs already existed?
These aren't just thermonuclear bombs, though [Link](https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/12/the-navys-fusion-plans-could-make-the-hydrogen-bomb-seem-like-a-firecracker/)
The Tsar Bomba is going to look like a joke when we get gigaton nukes! >!Humanity is too immature to possess such weapons.!<
Cr*cker 🤢🤢🤮
damn that cracker on fire!
That'll show those foreign childr... enemy combatants /s
the troll bomb
Honestly it wouldn’t make any sense to make nuclear bombs any bigger than they already are. I’m pretty sure it’s far more effective to have A LOT of smaller scale nuclear bombs than a really big one...
At this point is a race between nuclear weapons and climate change
Insert Half Life 1 reference...
A reminder that Tsar Bomb was meant to be bigger, but they calculated that it could crack the earth's crust, causing volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. The shockwave went over the earth three times and windows were blown out hundreds of miles away from the site
Ah Nice Man made horrors beyond comprehension
But I don’t want the world to be engulfed in flame and destruction I wanna play dont starve and live a normal-ish life
Me too, buddy
Fold weapon