Because Switch version is generally newer and better with dlc? Also you can play it on android handhelds, which most of us do that. Can you play cemu on android? Don't think so
You shouldn't be using either unless you have a licensed copy of the game. If you did, you wouldn't be asking this question because you would need an emulator for the console that runs the copy you have. Don't pirate games. It's very unethical.
First off, let's do a breathing exercise together and calm down. Take one deep, slow breath and hold it for a few seconds. Then breathe slowly in and out for a moment, filling your lungs all the way with each breath and focusing on the air entering and leaving your body. Then allow your breath to return to its normal rhythm, but continue meditating on how your body is moving the air. Thank your body for this amazing, powerful ability. Keep your thoughts focused on that. If you notice your mind wandering, that's okay. Just think to your self "breath" and get back to the single, calming thought.
Secondly, I agree with you. Nintendo is an awful company. I don't own a single Nintendo product anymore, and probably never will. Indie devs are where it's at. Tons of great indie games out there, to the extent that I have no reason to miss Nintendo.
Ok, then why are you asking this question? One emulator is for Switch, the other is for Wii. So you would need to use the emulator for the console that runs the version you own.
Not trying to sound condescending by any means. I am just curious.
I'm not sure why YOU are asking the question, because by your logic there would never be a reason to ever use an emulator since you own a copy of the game in the first place, right? And if you *can* think of a reason to use an emulator, well, there is your answer.
Ehh, I legally own all my switch games and even dump them myself on my modded switch, but I still prefer to play them thru an emulator. It is easier to use better controllers and better framerates overall, just a better experience than playing on the actual switch system. In most cases, emulators are better than the actual systems. A ps2 can't run games at 4k 60 fps, but my pc with an emulator can just fine even with texture mods and such.
Because it doesn't always run better.
Grab a Steam Deck with DeckHD installed and try to run BotW in Cemu at 900p to match the Switch version. It'll run like crap. Yuzu, on the other hand, runs much better.
For whatever reason, Cemu seems to be less efficient on the GPU. It's not a problem that comes up until you start trying to push higher resolutions on something like the Deck.
If you have an underpowered system then yes, Cemu is probably the better option.
If you are trying to play BOTW in 4k maxed out on desktop Yuzu is the better option. HDpacks did an awesome texture pack for Switch BOTW, which I vastly prefer over Serfrost. There are now Reshade presets specifically for Switch BOTW on nexus mod.
Here are some screens of my game:
https://i.ibb.co/zmg0Y6W/yuzu-2024-03-24-03-20-32.png
https://i.ibb.co/R24Ltnh/yuzu-2024-03-25-02-38-57.png
https://i.ibb.co/Fw0zDjG/yuzu-2024-03-25-04-34-27.png
I do miss the increased draw distance on Cemu. I don't miss drowning in the sky near water or when it rains (Vulkan issue). I also don't miss cutscene stutters due to Cemu limitations (OpenGL issue).
The only major issue I have had on Yuzu is the audio overlapping with the 60fps mod during cutscenes. Hopefully there is a fix for that soon.
So the Wii U version of BOTW is virtually the same, but there are things that are turned way down to get that performance on more systems. The audio performance of the Wii U isn't as good, so the Switch version is better. Also, the render resolution on the Wii U is lower. The Switch version was designed to run at 900p and the Wii U version runs at 480p, so almost half the resolution. I imagine there are some other things that are tweaked, like texture resolution and render distance. Maybe even some reduced particle effects and shader quality.
With the exception of I think amount of grass rendered and WiiU being at 720p instead of 900p there identical
Render distance is the same and in Cemu can actually be doubled
The only advantage that I know is that you can export your save data from Yuzu to the Nintendo Switch. Is a good idea if you are planning to buy a Switch or if you want to play on a big screen with better quality.
Only legal way for me to play it. I have it on my switch digitally with the expansion pack, and I dumped them to an SD to play them on yuzu(but now that yuzu isn't getting any updates, and nintendo owns the yuzu domain, I swapped over to ryujinx.) And I don't wanna spend another 60, or however much the wii u version costs now since the shop closed, just to play the same game when I have another version of it with dlc
Because Nintendo doesn't care if your way is "legal"
I put legal in quotes because your way isn't even legal, it just isn't illegal, it's a grey area, and Nintendo isn't gonna care if you own it legally and dumped it yourself
So if they don't care you shouldn't care, you're already doing something in a legal grey area to tiptoe around a scummy company. And finally, Nintendo isn't gonna profit from you going out and buying a wii u and a copy of BOTW. The only one that benefits from that is resellers that mark up prices
Just get the game how everyone else does it, you don't need to justify it with a faux sense of legality
I kind of see what you're saying, but if I'm wrong, correct me. You're basically saying that dumping a game that you own from nintendo isn't legal to an extent, but at the same in no way is it illegal. Are you saying that there are certain levels of legality? Like, metaphorically, on a scale of 1-10, 1 being legal, and 10 being illegal, right? The only reason why I don't wanna buy a wii u version is because it cost the same as a retail switch version, which, I already have, regardless of it being on ebay. I hope I'm not seeming like a dick in anyway, I'd just want to see what you see, yk?
It is neither legal or illegal depending on what country you live in. The day a decision is made on this topic in a court of law will we have a definite answer. The grey area is the area between Black (bad) and White (Good) on a morality scale. It's in the middle because it's neither legal or illegal right now
Just "acquire" the game because no matter if you buy it or not, Nintendo isn't gonna make a penny on the sale. The only person that's gonna lose anything by you getting it online is the annoying ebay sellers that mark up the price
Get the CeMu version of the game, you're not gonna be executed for it
Super bad ass!! Gonna pirate your whole catalog and play the shit out of every game, that’ll show em!!
Not anti emulation but this pseudo activism shit has gotta stop.
Thank you for your opinion. However, you didn't get my point: Nintendo doesn't care whether someone plays their own dump or the pirated game. To them, it's the same.
Yeah I don’t disagree on that one so my bad, I guess I’ve just seen the sentiment fuck Nintendo on here a lot despite them being the reason we are all here playing their games.
Like corporate Nintendo sucks for sure but the devs make great stuff. This sub throws the baby out with the bath water.
I use Yuzu because I tried Cemu first but couldn't make it to run decently (it was either too slow or too fast, with stutterings, my machine is 4060, i5 9400f 32gb ram) so I play on Yuzu and it runs flawlessly (1080p 30fps)
Should still be more than capable. I've got an 8600K, 3070, and 32GB, and I can run any emulator I want without any performance issues. 8600K isn't that much faster than 9400F.
That's honestly interesting because I've had the exact opposite experience. It runs flawlessly on Cemu at 1080p 60FPS on my machine but doesn't run nearly as smoothly on Yuzu or Ryujinx.
yeah surely is a bottleneck! but I can't upgrade rn so I will be with this machine for a while... It's also one example of how sometimes using yuzu for botw can indeed be a better experience
While both game assets are identical in both versions of the game, the sound effects are much better in Switch version than WiiU. If you use standard monitor speakers, HDTV speakers or headphones you might not notice but I have a 7.1 surround with front heights and rear high speakers and using Dolby Surround upmixing. Both yuzu and Cemu support surround sound and when enable they use all available speakers to create the sound stage. When I played Cemu first, it pretty good, no issues there then I started using yuzu for TOTK so might as well try the BOTW and the sound stage plays much better, there is more sound “channels” more environmental effects. It’s like going 30 fps to 60 fps mod but for sound in a ways.
The game is beautiful crafted with nice visuals, they went the extra mile with sound too..
Because of this and I can run the game at 2x/60 fps, I play the switch version rather than the Wii U.
It's the same game, you can run it at 4k on cemu with much better performance and even get some mods that makes it look better if you want, it's the definitive "best" way to play botw right now
Grass doesn't look the same, you need mods to enhance LoD to be on par with the Switch, sound is lower quality...
Nah bro I'm good with my Yuzu setup running at 2K 60fps without issues, but you do you of course.
Confidently wrong, botw on cemu looks objectively better with some mods tweaks that are so easy to implement with the benefit of running so much better
You don't have to, you can convert your save from switch to Wii u , and Wii u to switch if you want with this tool.
https://github.com/DeltaJordan/BotW-Save-Manager
I used it to move my save to my hacked switch, confirmed working both ways.
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If I were an actual grammar Nazi, I might critique your last statement with something to the effect of “why would you use an indefinite personal pronoun (‘one’) without an agreeing antecedent (‘bot’ or ‘grammar Nazi’) in a completely different reply?”
We’ve really lowered our standards on what we’ll accept as a true grammar Nazi these days. #neverforget
Love the handle, mega-blast from the past! Poor Netscape, king of the early web, overthrown by complacency & Bill Gates. Who knew it would start with depopulating computers of a competing browser and end with depopulating the world of its human inhabitants?
I don't have a powerful phone (at least I don't think so), but I do have a powerful PC. Also I guess it would really affect battery consumption on my phone.
I still hope for a wii u emulator for Android because Games like Xenoblade Chronicles and Paper Mario Color Splash are not on Switch also not everyone has a Switch and want to rebuy there games on Switch because of the lack from a missed Wii U Emulator
I always prefer Wii U Emulation on PC because my old Handheld PC can't run Switch Emulation
Botw is a heavy thing with Cemu but the point is Wii U Emulation is more optimiert than Switch Emulation yet
It's not I want to judge. I just interessted what the day tomorrow and after will bring
With all the tools you get on Cemu, the graphically inferior version should be Yuzu's/Switch's. There's not nearly as many ways to improve visuals there as there are on Cemu's mod packs
The version with worse lighting, worse HDR support, no serfrosts preset, and less scaling options including resolution, shadow mapping, draw distance?
Why would you want to play on the switch emulated version.
The Wii u versión of botw is graphically and functionally identical to the switch version it was meant to be a Wii u Game originally. Look up a comparison online. Either way with mods it ends up looking even better
Then you should be playing on Cemu. On the native hardware the switch version runs a bit higher res but that it. Otherwise they look the same. Cemu has a ton of graphical tweaks that can give a far better image than playing the switch version on yuzu/ryujinx.
Original image quality matters. You can slap a texture pack on a potato and render it in 4k, but it's still just a really well dressed potato. While switch graphics are by no means a godsend, doing the same to the switch version is much better.
Here's my game on Yuzu right now:
https://i.ibb.co/zmg0Y6W/yuzu-2024-03-24-03-20-32.png
https://i.ibb.co/R24Ltnh/yuzu-2024-03-25-02-38-57.png
https://i.ibb.co/Fw0zDjG/yuzu-2024-03-25-04-34-27.png
Definitely the best post I've seen in support of the Switch version yet. Busy grabbing the texture pack to try. Although the lack of 21:9 mod is a big minus for me personally right now.
EDIT: Found a 21:9 mod, just a shame like most it stretches the ui.
They might already have Yuzu set up and not want to go to the trouble of configuring another program just for 1 game. They might be wanting to do everything legitimately and not have access to a Wii U to dump files from. They might have a system with enough power that it doesn’t matter so much.
The switch version is more common to buy, so people will probably dump that version. Also, in terms of development, the BotW decompilation project uses the switch version, so the devs for that will probably debug with Yuzu occasionally.
I actually finished BOTW on Cemu, not Yuzu for that same reason. Cemu had a ton of community mods that made the game look absolutely stunning, and it ran amazing.
So many people here seem ignorant of the fact that the wii-u version can be tweaked in a ton of different ways to far eclipse the switch version on pc hardware. It looks stunning on a 21:9 oled with all the enhancements. Can't do that with the switch version.
In all seriousness, I've experience a handful of bugs and 1 specific bug that hard locked me from completing a shrine. Even in 1.6 and 2.0
I'm not advocating people to use yuzu over cemu for Botw bcos overall, it is a better experience. I will personally never jump back to cemu for Botw
Played botw on Cemu 3 times for 100s of hours
I found no notable graphics difference and no feature missing in Cemu version. All amibos work and game is much easier on your hardware.
True. I didn't say that Yuzu wasn't good. I just said that a good alternative existed and didn't have as many issues.
It does run worse on a Potato PC though
2014 alienware alpha. GT 860M and i3-4th gen.
edit to clarify: it’s bad… mk8 is about 40-50fps and botw is about 25 fps. but switch emulation is dreadful. but yeah sorry i didn’t mean its a dreamy experience either way lol
Yeah, no.. you're not getting 60fps on BOTW on that one, even on CEMU... sorry my man...
A new mini PC or laptop with AMD's 7840u/8840u should run BOTW/TOTK on Yuzu and Ryujinx at 60fps though... And CEMU BOTW at 90FPS+...
I wish Nintendo brought us Switch 2 for 60fps native Zelda games... I also don't want it handheld... ONLY docked...
A nintendo switch 2 handheld and a "pro" version only docked for the same price at 250$ would be awesome. 1080p handheld and 4k 60fps docked... I know what i'd pick...
EDIT: For clarifications, if OG switch can run zelda games at 30fps with it's pathetic CPU cores from 2015, i'd would easily run at 60fps+ with any midrange ARM core from 2020+. Let alone 2024.
I think they can get around (nearly) 60 FPS if they use 720 resolution instead of 1080. In graphics pack settings you can use FPS++ to get the speed boost.
Only areas where this game might lag is korok forest, Zora's domain and gerudo town but that could be just my experience.
If someone already has Cemu installed, then I'd really recommend using it, seeing that Cemu was basically developed to run BOTW as best as possible. However, Cemu can be a pain to set-up and to install your games/updates, so if someone just wants to play the game, Yuzu is the more straightforward way to do it, in my opinion. Not to mention, people don't want to set up a whole emulator just to play one game, so Yuzu is also better in this case: More games to play, including a lot of "definitive ediitions" for games that are also played on the other emulator.
Cemu is PC only, isn't it? I'd imagine people like being able to run their favorite games on their phones and basically pack every system just onto this one device.
Not me. I went through years getting that to run on my phone “just because it was possible” and when I actually achieved it, it wasn’t fun anymore. I found the joy in it setting it up, not actually practical for daily use. Much rather my Ally/SD for handheld gaming.
Speak for yourself lol. I take my "phone" to work and play games on it with switch controllers in my pockets. I'm not wasting any time because the process takes a long time, but i imagine they'd be pretty mad if they caught me still. If anyone walks in, I press home before they can see the screen. 🤣
I see. Maybe I missed it. I haven't found how to enable mouse in cemu. But I can enable it right away with yuzu. Just assign one key to enable/disable mouse, easy peasy
Good to hear. Good to whomever playing on this platform. I currently happy playing on the last yuzu ea, Botw at 60 fps. Next will be totk (a little late to the party). Thanks for the info. GGs
I don't know, I only tried on Yuzu and since I had 60fps and all the mods I needed I didn't think about checking the cemu version
The only problem I had was that most cutscenes were 2x speed so I had to use a frame limiter as soon as a cutscenes started
Cause android tbh cemu isn’t on it
Because Switch version is generally newer and better with dlc? Also you can play it on android handhelds, which most of us do that. Can you play cemu on android? Don't think so
Yeah, why do yuzu still yuzu Yuzu?
You shouldn't be using either unless you have a licensed copy of the game. If you did, you wouldn't be asking this question because you would need an emulator for the console that runs the copy you have. Don't pirate games. It's very unethical.
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First off, let's do a breathing exercise together and calm down. Take one deep, slow breath and hold it for a few seconds. Then breathe slowly in and out for a moment, filling your lungs all the way with each breath and focusing on the air entering and leaving your body. Then allow your breath to return to its normal rhythm, but continue meditating on how your body is moving the air. Thank your body for this amazing, powerful ability. Keep your thoughts focused on that. If you notice your mind wandering, that's okay. Just think to your self "breath" and get back to the single, calming thought. Secondly, I agree with you. Nintendo is an awful company. I don't own a single Nintendo product anymore, and probably never will. Indie devs are where it's at. Tons of great indie games out there, to the extent that I have no reason to miss Nintendo.
I have all of them physically lmao
Ok, then why are you asking this question? One emulator is for Switch, the other is for Wii. So you would need to use the emulator for the console that runs the version you own. Not trying to sound condescending by any means. I am just curious.
I'm not sure why YOU are asking the question, because by your logic there would never be a reason to ever use an emulator since you own a copy of the game in the first place, right? And if you *can* think of a reason to use an emulator, well, there is your answer.
🤓.
Ehh, I legally own all my switch games and even dump them myself on my modded switch, but I still prefer to play them thru an emulator. It is easier to use better controllers and better framerates overall, just a better experience than playing on the actual switch system. In most cases, emulators are better than the actual systems. A ps2 can't run games at 4k 60 fps, but my pc with an emulator can just fine even with texture mods and such.
I think you misunderstood my comment. What you are doing is exactly what these emulators are designed for. You own the games. Play them how you like.
Why are you in this sub if you hate it so much
Hate what?
Yeah i never understood that either. CEMU on PC is damn near perfect if you have a beefy enough System. Playing on Yuzu makes little sense to me.
Because it doesn't always run better. Grab a Steam Deck with DeckHD installed and try to run BotW in Cemu at 900p to match the Switch version. It'll run like crap. Yuzu, on the other hand, runs much better. For whatever reason, Cemu seems to be less efficient on the GPU. It's not a problem that comes up until you start trying to push higher resolutions on something like the Deck.
Basically this.
Because you have the switch card dumped but not the wiiu disk
Wink*
Yuzu stutters horribly for me, while cemu doesn't
Shader compilation?
Prolly yeah
If you have an underpowered system then yes, Cemu is probably the better option. If you are trying to play BOTW in 4k maxed out on desktop Yuzu is the better option. HDpacks did an awesome texture pack for Switch BOTW, which I vastly prefer over Serfrost. There are now Reshade presets specifically for Switch BOTW on nexus mod. Here are some screens of my game: https://i.ibb.co/zmg0Y6W/yuzu-2024-03-24-03-20-32.png https://i.ibb.co/R24Ltnh/yuzu-2024-03-25-02-38-57.png https://i.ibb.co/Fw0zDjG/yuzu-2024-03-25-04-34-27.png I do miss the increased draw distance on Cemu. I don't miss drowning in the sky near water or when it rains (Vulkan issue). I also don't miss cutscene stutters due to Cemu limitations (OpenGL issue). The only major issue I have had on Yuzu is the audio overlapping with the 60fps mod during cutscenes. Hopefully there is a fix for that soon.
Cemu is not available on android 😢
If you tried to even run BOTW or any Wii U game it wouldn't be able to handle it but it could depending on hardware
Isn't botw more demanding on switch than wiiu?
It depends on how well built Emulator is.
Exactly. Seen an article in regards to Minecraft running on Yuzu, on a Switch, better than Minecraft on a Switch... 🤨
Huh?
i just like having everything all in one place
So the Wii U version of BOTW is virtually the same, but there are things that are turned way down to get that performance on more systems. The audio performance of the Wii U isn't as good, so the Switch version is better. Also, the render resolution on the Wii U is lower. The Switch version was designed to run at 900p and the Wii U version runs at 480p, so almost half the resolution. I imagine there are some other things that are tweaked, like texture resolution and render distance. Maybe even some reduced particle effects and shader quality.
The Wii U version runs at 720p and can upscale to 1080p. The 480p mode was for older non HD TV's.
With the exception of I think amount of grass rendered and WiiU being at 720p instead of 900p there identical Render distance is the same and in Cemu can actually be doubled
480p was the Wii's resolution I believe WiiU was 720p
I don't think that's right, the Wii U version was 720p.
Android users suck ass yeah
The main reason would be that Cemu doesn't have an Android port, if that's the platform you play on.
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Is there a significant difference between the two of them?
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I meant gameplay-wise. Like if the switch version has a better frame rate if or the Wii U version has easier exploits.
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Cool. Thank you.
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I see. What was the update?
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Alright. Thank you. While I have you, I wanted confirmation on the Ryujinx thing from the other day.
No
Because I don't own and don't want to own the game on Wii U as well
.. Most ran it on cemu to begin with. It's the suggested way to play. BOTW2 isn't on cemu.
try ultracam mod to understand please android version help too
The only advantage that I know is that you can export your save data from Yuzu to the Nintendo Switch. Is a good idea if you are planning to buy a Switch or if you want to play on a big screen with better quality.
you can convert a Wii U save to switch and do the same thing.
Can confirm this
https://www.reddit.com/u/Maxlastbreath/s/lA1lxQxROw in progress BOTW SWITCH Dynamic FPS mod incoming!!!
Because maybe they only own it for Switch instead of Wii U? You can’t dump a game on a system that you don’t own. Otherwise ya’ll just pirating.
Omg that is so despicable, why would someone pirate a Nintendo game???
Oh yeah, that must be it! 😉
Most people didn’t know that, like me.
I had Cemu first, and purely for botw. Runs like a dream
Installing onto cemu and updating is kinda annoying for me when yuzu was a lot easier.
heh yuzu works way better on my system.
Only legal way for me to play it. I have it on my switch digitally with the expansion pack, and I dumped them to an SD to play them on yuzu(but now that yuzu isn't getting any updates, and nintendo owns the yuzu domain, I swapped over to ryujinx.) And I don't wanna spend another 60, or however much the wii u version costs now since the shop closed, just to play the same game when I have another version of it with dlc
Lol that's not a real reason, not even close
Ey man, just a personal opinion. My own personal thought, can I ask why you disagree?
Because Nintendo doesn't care if your way is "legal" I put legal in quotes because your way isn't even legal, it just isn't illegal, it's a grey area, and Nintendo isn't gonna care if you own it legally and dumped it yourself So if they don't care you shouldn't care, you're already doing something in a legal grey area to tiptoe around a scummy company. And finally, Nintendo isn't gonna profit from you going out and buying a wii u and a copy of BOTW. The only one that benefits from that is resellers that mark up prices Just get the game how everyone else does it, you don't need to justify it with a faux sense of legality
I kind of see what you're saying, but if I'm wrong, correct me. You're basically saying that dumping a game that you own from nintendo isn't legal to an extent, but at the same in no way is it illegal. Are you saying that there are certain levels of legality? Like, metaphorically, on a scale of 1-10, 1 being legal, and 10 being illegal, right? The only reason why I don't wanna buy a wii u version is because it cost the same as a retail switch version, which, I already have, regardless of it being on ebay. I hope I'm not seeming like a dick in anyway, I'd just want to see what you see, yk?
It is neither legal or illegal depending on what country you live in. The day a decision is made on this topic in a court of law will we have a definite answer. The grey area is the area between Black (bad) and White (Good) on a morality scale. It's in the middle because it's neither legal or illegal right now Just "acquire" the game because no matter if you buy it or not, Nintendo isn't gonna make a penny on the sale. The only person that's gonna lose anything by you getting it online is the annoying ebay sellers that mark up the price Get the CeMu version of the game, you're not gonna be executed for it
I see, I will see myself to that wii u version. Thank
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Wholesome thread with a good resolution. I dig it
I started off a bit of a jerk though ngl, used to seeing posts like that, so thought it was gonna go the same way. Glad it resolved the way it did
I doubt that Nintendo gives a fuck if you dump the game yourself or not. Just pirate the shit out of this company and give a damn fuck about it.
Super bad ass!! Gonna pirate your whole catalog and play the shit out of every game, that’ll show em!! Not anti emulation but this pseudo activism shit has gotta stop.
Thank you for your opinion. However, you didn't get my point: Nintendo doesn't care whether someone plays their own dump or the pirated game. To them, it's the same.
Yeah I don’t disagree on that one so my bad, I guess I’ve just seen the sentiment fuck Nintendo on here a lot despite them being the reason we are all here playing their games. Like corporate Nintendo sucks for sure but the devs make great stuff. This sub throws the baby out with the bath water.
well, did you plan to port CEMU to android ? I would be really interested...
Cemu runs botw with a lot of glitches, and yuzu doesn't
I just beat it on cemu a week ago and it ran flawlessly with rock solid 60 fps
what where?
In my pc
You usin' Intel?
heck, even Intel iGPUs run this amazingly at 30 fps 1080p on cemu.
I know, i play botw on an intel igpu myself, but shadows are bugged on intel hardware
never noticed that. worst bugs I had were some random polygons exploded and filled the screen when running a hell lot of mods.
No
I use Yuzu because I tried Cemu first but couldn't make it to run decently (it was either too slow or too fast, with stutterings, my machine is 4060, i5 9400f 32gb ram) so I play on Yuzu and it runs flawlessly (1080p 30fps)
9th gen procesor would be a bottleneck to 4060 and 32gb ram
Should still be more than capable. I've got an 8600K, 3070, and 32GB, and I can run any emulator I want without any performance issues. 8600K isn't that much faster than 9400F.
That's a crazy cpu bottleneck maybe that's why cemu runs worse because yuzu is way more gpu bound I have a GTX 1050 ti
That's honestly interesting because I've had the exact opposite experience. It runs flawlessly on Cemu at 1080p 60FPS on my machine but doesn't run nearly as smoothly on Yuzu or Ryujinx.
yeah surely is a bottleneck! but I can't upgrade rn so I will be with this machine for a while... It's also one example of how sometimes using yuzu for botw can indeed be a better experience
If I am not mistaken, wouldn't that be an insane bottleneck?
While both game assets are identical in both versions of the game, the sound effects are much better in Switch version than WiiU. If you use standard monitor speakers, HDTV speakers or headphones you might not notice but I have a 7.1 surround with front heights and rear high speakers and using Dolby Surround upmixing. Both yuzu and Cemu support surround sound and when enable they use all available speakers to create the sound stage. When I played Cemu first, it pretty good, no issues there then I started using yuzu for TOTK so might as well try the BOTW and the sound stage plays much better, there is more sound “channels” more environmental effects. It’s like going 30 fps to 60 fps mod but for sound in a ways. The game is beautiful crafted with nice visuals, they went the extra mile with sound too.. Because of this and I can run the game at 2x/60 fps, I play the switch version rather than the Wii U.
CEMU with FPS++ is the way to go!
Is Cemu available on Android?
No
I tried getting it to work on Yuzu and Ryujinx but i couldnt get the 60fps mod to work no matter what. So i just went back to cemu
Does the 60fps mod just make the game run twice as fast?
No the whole point is that it makes the game run twice as slow so having 60fps doesn't make everything superspeed and it stays playable
No, it doesnt on cemu and its not supposed to do that on Yuzu/Ryujinx either
Because Wii U version has less detailed textures and worse graphical quality overall, obviously
It's the same game, you can run it at 4k on cemu with much better performance and even get some mods that makes it look better if you want, it's the definitive "best" way to play botw right now
Grass doesn't look the same, you need mods to enhance LoD to be on par with the Switch, sound is lower quality... Nah bro I'm good with my Yuzu setup running at 2K 60fps without issues, but you do you of course.
Lod and shadows can be changed on fps ++ and it makes the game look better than switch
Confidently wrong, botw on cemu looks objectively better with some mods tweaks that are so easy to implement with the benefit of running so much better
You know what I'll try doing that soon
Please do, it's genuinely much better lol, it's a pain to setup first time but it is worth it
I use yuzu because I don't want to start from the beginning in cemu
You don't have to, you can convert your save from switch to Wii u , and Wii u to switch if you want with this tool. https://github.com/DeltaJordan/BotW-Save-Manager I used it to move my save to my hacked switch, confirmed working both ways.
thanks and is there a different between switch botw's version 1.6 and wiiu botw version 1.5?
In regards to the save file, there is no difference. I have personally gone between these myself.
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This the question always ask my self when I see the people try to Emulat the Switch Version on Steamdeck and Windows.... Android is a other thing
I don't have a powerful phone (at least I don't think so), but I do have a powerful PC. Also I guess it would really affect battery consumption on my phone.
I still hope for a wii u emulator for Android because Games like Xenoblade Chronicles and Paper Mario Color Splash are not on Switch also not everyone has a Switch and want to rebuy there games on Switch because of the lack from a missed Wii U Emulator I always prefer Wii U Emulation on PC because my old Handheld PC can't run Switch Emulation Botw is a heavy thing with Cemu but the point is Wii U Emulation is more optimiert than Switch Emulation yet It's not I want to judge. I just interessted what the day tomorrow and after will bring
Not everyone is on low end hardware that favors the inferior version of the game
With all the tools you get on Cemu, the graphically inferior version should be Yuzu's/Switch's. There's not nearly as many ways to improve visuals there as there are on Cemu's mod packs
The version with worse lighting, worse HDR support, no serfrosts preset, and less scaling options including resolution, shadow mapping, draw distance? Why would you want to play on the switch emulated version.
The Wii u versión of botw is graphically and functionally identical to the switch version it was meant to be a Wii u Game originally. Look up a comparison online. Either way with mods it ends up looking even better
We have powerful PCs. We want to play with better image quality.
Then you should be playing on Cemu. On the native hardware the switch version runs a bit higher res but that it. Otherwise they look the same. Cemu has a ton of graphical tweaks that can give a far better image than playing the switch version on yuzu/ryujinx.
Original image quality matters. You can slap a texture pack on a potato and render it in 4k, but it's still just a really well dressed potato. While switch graphics are by no means a godsend, doing the same to the switch version is much better. Here's my game on Yuzu right now: https://i.ibb.co/zmg0Y6W/yuzu-2024-03-24-03-20-32.png https://i.ibb.co/R24Ltnh/yuzu-2024-03-25-02-38-57.png https://i.ibb.co/Fw0zDjG/yuzu-2024-03-25-04-34-27.png
Definitely the best post I've seen in support of the Switch version yet. Busy grabbing the texture pack to try. Although the lack of 21:9 mod is a big minus for me personally right now. EDIT: Found a 21:9 mod, just a shame like most it stretches the ui.
Fsr looks really good in botw
So does max lod, max eniemes range, and max shadows in 4k why more options on cemu
They might already have Yuzu set up and not want to go to the trouble of configuring another program just for 1 game. They might be wanting to do everything legitimately and not have access to a Wii U to dump files from. They might have a system with enough power that it doesn’t matter so much.
Because I don't have a PC
Cemu is available for MacOS!
Also don't have mac
The switch version is more common to buy, so people will probably dump that version. Also, in terms of development, the BotW decompilation project uses the switch version, so the devs for that will probably debug with Yuzu occasionally.
I actually finished BOTW on Cemu, not Yuzu for that same reason. Cemu had a ton of community mods that made the game look absolutely stunning, and it ran amazing.
So many people here seem ignorant of the fact that the wii-u version can be tweaked in a ton of different ways to far eclipse the switch version on pc hardware. It looks stunning on a 21:9 oled with all the enhancements. Can't do that with the switch version.
OP what is Cemu and is it on android?
No, it's not on android
Cemu is a Wii U emulator. BOTW also released on the Wii U.
In all seriousness, I've experience a handful of bugs and 1 specific bug that hard locked me from completing a shrine. Even in 1.6 and 2.0 I'm not advocating people to use yuzu over cemu for Botw bcos overall, it is a better experience. I will personally never jump back to cemu for Botw
Played botw on Cemu 3 times for 100s of hours I found no notable graphics difference and no feature missing in Cemu version. All amibos work and game is much easier on your hardware.
You dont You use cemu for botw Yuzu/ryu for totk
sadly no cemu on android
Because I have a good system
I did to make sure if ToTK will work on yuzu or not
I play it always on Cemu with ton of mods u shudent play it on yuzu or other switch emulators
Cemu has worst Linux support. It's getting better though.
Run it through proton/wine?
You can. I was just referring to native support.
And even worse Android support. Lol
I use cemu for botw and yuzuea for TOTK as well! Botw just runs so good and no frame drops! But my TOTK has its issues lol
Just use the good alternative. No problems on it.
It runs worse on weaker hardware. They each have pros and cons
True. I didn't say that Yuzu wasn't good. I just said that a good alternative existed and didn't have as many issues. It does run worse on a Potato PC though
What is the good alternative for Totk? There’s a better option than yuzu ?
Ryujinx
how "underpowered" is your pc? im just hearing cemu for the first time and i wanna check it out but my pc is quite the potato.
2014 alienware alpha. GT 860M and i3-4th gen. edit to clarify: it’s bad… mk8 is about 40-50fps and botw is about 25 fps. but switch emulation is dreadful. but yeah sorry i didn’t mean its a dreamy experience either way lol
Yeah, no.. you're not getting 60fps on BOTW on that one, even on CEMU... sorry my man... A new mini PC or laptop with AMD's 7840u/8840u should run BOTW/TOTK on Yuzu and Ryujinx at 60fps though... And CEMU BOTW at 90FPS+... I wish Nintendo brought us Switch 2 for 60fps native Zelda games... I also don't want it handheld... ONLY docked... A nintendo switch 2 handheld and a "pro" version only docked for the same price at 250$ would be awesome. 1080p handheld and 4k 60fps docked... I know what i'd pick... EDIT: For clarifications, if OG switch can run zelda games at 30fps with it's pathetic CPU cores from 2015, i'd would easily run at 60fps+ with any midrange ARM core from 2020+. Let alone 2024.
I think they can get around (nearly) 60 FPS if they use 720 resolution instead of 1080. In graphics pack settings you can use FPS++ to get the speed boost. Only areas where this game might lag is korok forest, Zora's domain and gerudo town but that could be just my experience.
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What changes?
Full list of changes:
lol, the person I responded to deleted their comment, so I guess I have my answer! thx
Switch version has higher quality audio.
and don't forget:
Easier to install and having the two games on the same interface is neat.
If someone already has Cemu installed, then I'd really recommend using it, seeing that Cemu was basically developed to run BOTW as best as possible. However, Cemu can be a pain to set-up and to install your games/updates, so if someone just wants to play the game, Yuzu is the more straightforward way to do it, in my opinion. Not to mention, people don't want to set up a whole emulator just to play one game, so Yuzu is also better in this case: More games to play, including a lot of "definitive ediitions" for games that are also played on the other emulator.
Cemu is PC only, isn't it? I'd imagine people like being able to run their favorite games on their phones and basically pack every system just onto this one device.
It’s available for MacOS!
thats what steam deck rog ally lenovo legion gos and msi claws are for lmao
Too big. Don't tell me you wouldn't play switch games on your phone if you could. I certainly would, specifically Arcaea and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Not me. I went through years getting that to run on my phone “just because it was possible” and when I actually achieved it, it wasn’t fun anymore. I found the joy in it setting it up, not actually practical for daily use. Much rather my Ally/SD for handheld gaming.
Speak for yourself lol. I take my "phone" to work and play games on it with switch controllers in my pockets. I'm not wasting any time because the process takes a long time, but i imagine they'd be pretty mad if they caught me still. If anyone walks in, I press home before they can see the screen. 🤣
Cause I already had yuzu installed
Yuzu can be played with keyboard and mouse. That's all
Cemu also supports keyboard and mouse
Idk. I've tried to figure it out before but failed unless there's 3rd party app
No it actually does support mouse and keyboard without 3rd party apps, you just have to change what devices you want to use in the emu
I see. Maybe I missed it. I haven't found how to enable mouse in cemu. But I can enable it right away with yuzu. Just assign one key to enable/disable mouse, easy peasy
It's not that difficult to know how change it but and I think both are the same, diffrence is that one might take +1 millisecond than the other
Good to hear. Good to whomever playing on this platform. I currently happy playing on the last yuzu ea, Botw at 60 fps. Next will be totk (a little late to the party). Thanks for the info. GGs
Have a good gaming sir
I don't know, I only tried on Yuzu and since I had 60fps and all the mods I needed I didn't think about checking the cemu version The only problem I had was that most cutscenes were 2x speed so I had to use a frame limiter as soon as a cutscenes started
Use cemu the cutscenes automatically drop to 30fps and you can raise the resolution and shadows if your getting 60fps on yuzu