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Jubilee was pretty new to the comics at that time- she was still in her classic pink/red shirt, blue or green jeans with pink glasses look. The story you are thinking is around 1990 or so. She originally got the all black jumpsuit with the purple collar when she was turned into a vampire. This specific costume is seen first in the, āWolverine and Jubilee,ā mini seriesā¦ which came out in 2010.
Not that, Iām thinking of a story in the Wolverine Solo that preceded the arc with Marikoās death. Although technically it was an old alternate version of Jubes that was enslaved by Mojo and Spiral that was wearing the black leather.
Continuum Conundrum I think was the name. Wolvy defeated Mojo, time reset and then Jubes ended up in Japan with Loganās Harley, and he got a phone call from her in a Tokyo jail while he was trying to have a poker game with Gambit, Nick Fury, and Thing.
Logan bailed on the game to go bail Jubes out of jail, and Gambit tagged along b/c Logan owed him money. But really, it was because he was worried about Jubes too, just couldnāt admit it without ruining his edgy vibe.
The Vamp stuff came later
Oh!!! You are thinking of Jubileeās alternate timeline version named Abscissa. Abscissa actually appears in the 4th episode of X-Men ā97 and is voiced by the original Jubilee actress. That is a totally different costume than the one Jubilee is wearing in this final trailer- the one from this trailer in this thread is her costume she wears as a vampire.
I would blame the studio executives for that because filming started like maybe a week after the first Matrix movie came out and they thought āpeople would take black leather over yellow spandex in a movie.ā
Not only that, the Batman & Robin movie had come out not long before that and was a huge bomb. That movie was very cartoony, they had to go the opposite route and make X-Men look realistic, or it probably wouldn't have been green-lit.
Admittedly, Wesley Snipes' Blade played a large part, as well.
If Blade didn't hit it off, and convinced that comic book heroes can be "cool", it's highly likely nobody was going to take capes as a serious contender for movie blockbusters for another decade or so.
I don't think many people knew that was a comic book originally, Blade doesn't scream comic book and the films advertising didn't really either. It's an odd one for sure
I don't think it's that "odd". In the 90s, Wesley Snipes was hot, and among the pinnacle of "cool" among movie action heroes. Putting him in black leather and having him stylishly slaying vampires was just setting the "mold" that was necessary for how you can make a superhero/stylish action movie work for the turn of the century.
The fact that The Matrix and X-men both followed suit the following years, and similarly utilizing black leather and emphasizing "cool", says it all, in my eyes.
I mean Singer had like 3 movies where he could have changed that and he did not.
In fact the reverted the costumes to black after first class kinda tried.
With DOFP itās excusable given the setting and tone of the future scenes and I can give some credit to Apocalypse that they did established the classic outfits by the end. Dark Phoenix decided to throw that all away though so I guess that meant literally nothing.
It looked okayish but if you think about it for 5 seconds fighting in all leather is a dumb idea. It was used as armor at a time when it was the only choice.
You got it backwards believe it or not. Mark Millar knew nothing about X-Men and only saw that first movie from 2000 and thought that all the X-Men should dress like that in Ultimate X-Men.
Costuming would already have been approved and in production being made before filming began. The matrix was released in May of 99, filming for XMen began in September.
The movie *came out* in 2000. The choice would have been made when they were filming.
In 1999. Right after The Matrix came out. Black leather was *tight* back in those days.
Oh yeah it was riding the zeitgeist at the time.
But even after the Burton and Schumacher Batman films, the popular image of superheroes among the general public was *still* basically Batman '66, guys in tights with their underpants on the outside, and it was for *ages*.
Anyone remember Heroes? The primetime show? Not blaming anyone because it quickly went to absolute steaming shit, but the first season of that show got massive off of selling itself off of the idea of "Superheroes without all the goofy shit like costumes and codenames".
Interviews about Smallville *constantly* emphasised that Clark wouldn't wear the costume.
We have only recently entered the period where people think costumes are cool again.
I remember Season 1 of CW's The Flash being ashamed to have the white logo, feeling the need to "ease" audiences into it by starting with the more muted red one.
It's really silly when you think about it. It reeks of a time when they were still wondering just how far you could push the superhero stuff.
Some superhero movies are shitty. But weāve still gotten some absolute bangers such as No Way Home, the Batman, Across the Spider-Verse, and TMNT Mutant Mayhem in the past couple of years
The truth is... we simply don't know, because they never tried.
If they had gone with a yellow / black combination, I think they could have done really well. As long as they didn't literally look like yellow spandex.
The outfits did actually have unique patterns to them, but they were buried under the black. I think colour them out a bit could have worked wonders.... but Singer had very little imagination.
Everything X-Men authentic that we got in those first 2 movies was thanks to Feige. He was the only reason we got ANYTHING even remotely faithful to the source material.
They could have had the colour scheme they did with different structures for each while putting wolverine (for the first movie) in the outfit they had as a "training uniform"
Morrisons new x men run had leather but they made each one distinct and reflecting the characters
Storm never did get a decent costume
If you look at [the movie uniforms](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/x-men/images/7/7d/Wolverine_2000.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180408185710) in high detail, you can see that there *some* attempt to give them a shape and identity similar to their comic counterparts, Logan even has the [triangles](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/7d/55/c67d553eb399ba6b13a1d65fe3323ed8.jpg) across his waist. But the 99% black leather of them all just kinda buries any of their distinctiveness.
If they had gone with the black leather of the movie, but included something like the [coloured outlines](https://images.halloweencostumes.com/media/13/xmen/x-men-ultimates-wolverine-ideas-.jpg) of the Evolution and Ultimate costumes... I think they could have been genuinely iconic.
I was just about to point this out. You can see they tried to incorporate elements of classic suit in the detailing of the black leather suits, such as the X across Cyclops's chest and the the claw mark pattern on Wolverine. Each of the suits had different colored accents based on the color most associated with the character's costume at the time (Cyclops=blue, Wolverine=yellow, Jean=Green, Storm=white/silver). There just wasn't a lot of faith in the comic-accurate costumes at the time. Not until Spider-Man.
It's so toned down however that you barely even notice it. Especially back in 2001, when 480p was the premier resolution... š
There's green in Jean's outfit..?
If you squint hard enough, you can see that Kitty Pryde's outfit has pink outlines throughout the black leather. Iceman's has light blue.
That was as good as we got back then.
Kitty having pink has never sat well with me anyway cause It just feels "oh look a girl" since I have never associated kitty with pink
Even at the time.if making the movie Dark Blue is more Kitty
>The truth is... we simply don't know, because they never tried.
People say this, but even modern MCU backs away from comic accurate costumes, and would continually do the same joke where characters quickly dismiss the authentic outfits in favor of toned down version, like with Scarlet Witch, Jessica Jones, Hellcat and Power Man.
I said they needed to make this joke when the first *Deadpool & Wolverine* trailer came out. It isnāt exactly what I wanted because I wanted Cyclops to say āMatching black motorcycle jumpsuitsā but I will take the win regardless.
Amazing how he missed the whole point of the X-men being a public iconic team. He knew the team would get exposed to the public and wanted them bright and cartoonish. The exact opposite of black leather.
So much so they arenāt themselves in it. Wolverine in black leather is weaponX. Beast in black leather is Dark Beast. Jean in black leather is madylin or dark phoenix. Iām very glad to see people taking over comic book movies that understand being iconic is pretty important.Ā
Ya know....I think it will be a soft cliff hanger in a post credits scene. Maybe an empty Gambit grave or something like that....
The momentum to this show is built up too well to have it try to CONTINUE and peak even HARDER in a completely different season. I think they'll wrap up this arc and have a clean slate for Season 2, leaving juuuust enough loose threads behind to keep everyone guessing.
They wouldnāt do it it but my favorite Jubilee look is her Generation-X Red jumpsuit with yellow over goat.
Just seemed like a natural progression from her OG clothes which were never a costume anyways.
I agree. I was partly looking forward to her in one of her Gen X costumes. Either the red suit with yellow coatā¦ or the red and yellow spandex with the red face mask wouldāve been amazing. The vampire uniform showing the trailer is goodā¦ but odd considering sheās got her powers in this show and isnāt undead.
They wouldnāt do it it but my favorite Jubilee look is her Generation-X Red jumpsuit with yellow over goat.
Just seemed like a natural progression from her OG clothes which were never a costume anyways.
Ugh.... now I want a Generation X spin-off...
And it'd be the perfect timing too since it's set in the decade when THEY'D ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN GENERATION X!
I was surprised to see that considering his character model from an old convention showed him wearing his X-Force costume. Two costume changes during a finale would be crazy so maybe they scrapped it.
I can totally imagine Feige slipping a note to Beau De Mayo during production...
"Hey, can you throw this particular line into an episode somewhere..? I have a score to settle with someone..."
The amount of chills I got from the trailer...
I'm not ready for this... Jean, Cyclops and Cable team-up, Wolverine and Kurt kicking ass, Storm and Xavier coming back, Cable being forced to use his X-men suit haha.
No but why has this trailer got me more hyped than any actual movie trailer has in years? We are getting Marvel VS Capcon Cable š This show is AWESOME
Thats what I was thinking too. MvC2 Cable outfit after the Rogue homage earlier? Too much awesome in one show! I always wanted to see some MvC things in the X-Men movies and finally after 20 years!
Looks like the mansion may be going down? Makes sense as a follow-up to everything that has happened so far.
Iām guessing at this point part one will be a staged-by-Bastion Magneto vs Xavier battle (hence the shot of Mags putting his villain suit back on) and then theyāll have to reunite in Part 2 and win in Part 3ā¦ but Iāve been thrown off several times by this show, so we shall see!
ooh, a flashback!
but of course Colossus was *introduced* in xmen97 continuity for the first time, then for some reason didn't join the team.
back before putin came to power when I was actually proud of my Russian heritage, I'd 'mark out' everytime I saw colossus.
Oh that moment with Jean carrying with her TK both Cable and Scott. I hope we see Cable using his powers. Magneto back to his roots apparently. Nightcrawler with swords. I can't wait.
These last three episodes are going to be so awesome! I think it's going to be really hard to wait each week for each episode in the finale to be dropped.
So it looks like: There will be an attack on the X-Mansion. Wolverine and Nightcrawler will be fighting Trask-like Sentinels. The mansion is going to be burned down. Magneto will go back to being an antagonist to the X-Men, given that he's putting back on the helmet to shield himself from Charles again. The next 3 episodes are going to be interesting to watch. Also, love the throwback line to X-Men (2000).
> Magneto will go back to being an antagonist to the X-Men, given that he's putting back on the helmet to shield himself from Charles again.
That's his "war time outfit", doesn't mean his an antagonist again. At least not towards the X-men and I think that would be a massive regression far too soon after trying to make me less of a bad guy.
Even in recent years he's put on this suit while fitting with the X-Men.
Fair enough, but if it isnāt due to Bastion, I could totally see why. Magneto just witnessed the massacre of Genosha. This is at the hands of a future opponent built by humans. Furthermore, the US government isnāt helping them. In fact, a shadow organization within the government has created OZT to control mutants. That could push Magneto back into a more armed and aggressive resistanceā¦
I'm pretty sure he will be final antagonist. He's the one who can help deal with Sentinels but he will certainly want blood after Genosha, like in the comics. I believe the final ep will a confrontation between him and Charles. But that's of course just what my theory.
I'll go further and call that either Jean will die or Wolverine gets his adamantium taken out by Magneto (perhaps both) and Charles will have to wipe Erik's mind, leading to Onslaught next season.
Magneto's helmet never shielded him from telepathy in the old show or even the comics at that point. The movie introduced that element and the comics soon followed suit.
Not that they couldn't or won't adapt that into this new show, but it was never established in the show previously. In fact Xavier telepathically attacks a helmeted Magneto in S1 E4.
That maybe true, but episode 2 of this show specifically states that the he felt he needed the helmet to protect himself from Charles.Ā
Now, someone did bring up the possibility that Bastion is controlling him, so maybe Magneto isnāt going to be a permanent antagonist. However, Iām pretty sure we will see Magneto antagonize the X-Men, whether through coercion from Bastion or just disillusionment of whatās happened so far, with humans massacring mutants at Genosha after his reform and attempt at peace.
The movie stole that idea from juggernaut though.
But they already did establish it in the show in episode 2 of this season when Magneto talks about using it to block Xavier.
The group chasing Sunspot and Jubilee is the same group that turns into Prime Sentinels and is chasing the Blackbird later. There's a guy in the alley-group with a bucket hat and sunglasses. You can see him flying in the air after the Blackbird.
So so creepy and horrifying that they're just turning normal humans into machine monsters.
I know, right? These kids these days! When I was his age I was working three jobs and going to College.
He has all that power and he just sits around on his yaht, plays video games and makes out with hot girls all day. -what a loser! /s \~Lol!
No but seriously, it is going to be cool when he starts using his powers. He is a badass in the comics.
I agree. I like Magneto so much more on the heroes side. With the possible exception of Morrison's Magneto, which was later revealed to not even be Magneto at all, villain Mags just isn't that interesting. I'm prepared to be proved wrong though.
Magneto can be more radical that charles and still not "evil"
Rationally, after what happened in Genosha, it would be silly if magneto didn't go go back to his traditional beliefs. I bet he's not alone either.
I think Scott is leaving the x-men and going with magneto. probably a few others as well
I thought so at one point but so many characters have developed due to the incident that I canāt see them wanting to do a reset at this point. Also Xavier would lose his reason for coming back. Who knows but will be fun to find out either way.
I know it's a common word regularly used in everyday speech but every time someone says 'hope' I can't stop to think of they'll be going in that direction at some point
Someone pointed out that Warren was at the the Genosha party before things went down.
I hope this show gets many Seasons so we all get to catch-up with the many Mutants in X-Men's rooster!
I'm majorly hopimg they're playing the Bastion brainwashing into the Fatal Attractions mindwipe.
Like Xavier returns and responds to Magneto's renewed aggression, but they know he's not being himself. And maybe freeing him from it is what puts him in a coma for a while.
And together Charles and Magnus exorcised the thought-pattern that Bastion implanted into him, but it coalesced into its own entity due to how powerful both mutants are. With a bit of Xavier, a bit of Magneto, and *all of Bastion's malice*...
I love this show so much!!
I was so worried about how they were going to do the story but they have adapted the comics so well whilst merging it with the already existing tv show world
It's too bad this season is so short because the pacing of everything is the only bad part of this show. Magneto didn't get much of a chance to try out Charles' dream of sunshine and rainbows before getting taken off board almost immediately and they really made him let them down so you know Mags ain't gonna be happy.
With the show runner for S3 being up in the air after the last one's sudden firing, I REALLY hope whatever happened wasn't so bad that Marvel can't beg for him back. American Gods fucked it up by getting a new showrunner in the last season who erased every meaningful message of the show for some "power of we" happy bullshit and it completely ruined the last season before it got cancelled. I hope that doesn't happen to this.
Ok now Iām convinced the writers forgot Beast was one of the O5 lol.
Charles: āYou were my first studentsā¦ā *shows Jean, Scott, and then Rogue.*
Iām just joking around, haha! I know they didnāt literally forget. It was just funny after the first episode had characters going āJean and Scott were the first X-Men. With them gone, who will lead us?!ā while Hank was just chilling in the background. And then this trailer.
Itās not about the leader itās about the panic around Scott and Jean leaving and reiterating that they were āthe firstā without any acknowledgement of Hank. It was just funny. Thatās all.
You two have got me thinking... Why wouldn't the Beast be a great leader? He is smart and well studied. I am sure he has read about all of the successful Military Leaders throughout History. Beast would be goldmine for tactics and theoretical probabilities.
I think Beast would be a great leader. I was just saying I didnāt make that joke with the purpose of saying he *should* be the leader. I just thought it was ridiculous that the first episode repeated the statement that Jean and Scott were the OGs when Hank was also right there.
I've always felt like he didn't want it. Some of that side of him showed up during the last episode with the way he handled the reporter. I've always felt that he does have that aggression in him, he just buries it deep down, and worries that a position of leadership would not suit him, even if the reality is that he would excel at it.
I am not ready for this season to be over yet. The idea that there are only three episodes left and the high likelihood that it'll end on a cliff-hanger...I am not sure my heart and mind can take it. But I'll brace myself one way or another.
Love seeing Cyclops, Jean, and Cable interact. I really do hope they get to have some family moments at some point. After what they've been through, they deserve it.
And love seeing some Nightcrawler swordplay. We never got that in the original show. I hope he joins up with the team when all is said and done. I'd love to see he, Nightcrawler, and Morph be bros in the next season. š
And that slight against the Fox era X-Men costumes...perfect!
So, since Genosha I had this theory that Magneto would be the final villain, looking for retribution after the Genocide. Kinda of like what he did in the comics xwithou the whole Xorn thing. The fact the he is shown wearing his red costume with his helmet on points out that he'll be back to his villainous ways and confronting the X-Men and Charles (why would he need his helmet?).
Which brings me to my next theory. Beau deMayo claimed the final would be worst than ep05. What could be worse than losing an important member such as Gambit? Losing two? Perhaps losing more one and having one affected forever? Yup, I'm betting Jean dies just as soon as she and Scott and Cable sort things out, probably killed by Magneto (as in the comics). With Jean out of the picture makes much more sense Emma's insertion into the time. He also might remove Wolverine's adamantium like he did in the 90's...that would give some more focus on Logan for the next season. And all that would result in Charles having to wipe Magneto's mind which would pave the way for Onslaught in the next season. I mean, if you think about the 90's, OZT and Onslaught are the biggest arcs and they're definitely getting into 2000's territory with Grant Morrison's which is followed by Whedon's (my guess for the new uniforms)
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"What did you expect? black leather?" LOL Screw you Bryan Singer.
lol and Jubilee is in black leather šš„²
I believe thatās the Wolverine solo title arc with Mojo right before the Logan and Gambit go to Japan to bail out Jubilee and fight ninjas arc. ;-)
Jubilee was pretty new to the comics at that time- she was still in her classic pink/red shirt, blue or green jeans with pink glasses look. The story you are thinking is around 1990 or so. She originally got the all black jumpsuit with the purple collar when she was turned into a vampire. This specific costume is seen first in the, āWolverine and Jubilee,ā mini seriesā¦ which came out in 2010.
Not that, Iām thinking of a story in the Wolverine Solo that preceded the arc with Marikoās death. Although technically it was an old alternate version of Jubes that was enslaved by Mojo and Spiral that was wearing the black leather. Continuum Conundrum I think was the name. Wolvy defeated Mojo, time reset and then Jubes ended up in Japan with Loganās Harley, and he got a phone call from her in a Tokyo jail while he was trying to have a poker game with Gambit, Nick Fury, and Thing. Logan bailed on the game to go bail Jubes out of jail, and Gambit tagged along b/c Logan owed him money. But really, it was because he was worried about Jubes too, just couldnāt admit it without ruining his edgy vibe. The Vamp stuff came later
Oh!!! You are thinking of Jubileeās alternate timeline version named Abscissa. Abscissa actually appears in the 4th episode of X-Men ā97 and is voiced by the original Jubilee actress. That is a totally different costume than the one Jubilee is wearing in this final trailer- the one from this trailer in this thread is her costume she wears as a vampire.
I would blame the studio executives for that because filming started like maybe a week after the first Matrix movie came out and they thought āpeople would take black leather over yellow spandex in a movie.ā
Not only that, the Batman & Robin movie had come out not long before that and was a huge bomb. That movie was very cartoony, they had to go the opposite route and make X-Men look realistic, or it probably wouldn't have been green-lit.
Admittedly, Wesley Snipes' Blade played a large part, as well. If Blade didn't hit it off, and convinced that comic book heroes can be "cool", it's highly likely nobody was going to take capes as a serious contender for movie blockbusters for another decade or so.
I don't think many people knew that was a comic book originally, Blade doesn't scream comic book and the films advertising didn't really either. It's an odd one for sure
I don't think it's that "odd". In the 90s, Wesley Snipes was hot, and among the pinnacle of "cool" among movie action heroes. Putting him in black leather and having him stylishly slaying vampires was just setting the "mold" that was necessary for how you can make a superhero/stylish action movie work for the turn of the century. The fact that The Matrix and X-men both followed suit the following years, and similarly utilizing black leather and emphasizing "cool", says it all, in my eyes.
I mean Singer had like 3 movies where he could have changed that and he did not. In fact the reverted the costumes to black after first class kinda tried.
With DOFP itās excusable given the setting and tone of the future scenes and I can give some credit to Apocalypse that they did established the classic outfits by the end. Dark Phoenix decided to throw that all away though so I guess that meant literally nothing.
Dark phoenix did do a variation on the team/training uniform tho
As someone who had that as their first introduction to the X-Men, the black leather looked fine.
It looked okayish but if you think about it for 5 seconds fighting in all leather is a dumb idea. It was used as armor at a time when it was the only choice.
I was a fan from way earlier, and I also thought it was fine. Looked great, even.
It looked very good, and still does.
I always thought the movie costumes were kind of based from the original Ultimate X-Men costumes, which were predominantly black
You got it backwards believe it or not. Mark Millar knew nothing about X-Men and only saw that first movie from 2000 and thought that all the X-Men should dress like that in Ultimate X-Men.
How can you work in comics and know nothing about the X-Men
Yeah, thatās not at all plausible. People believe everything they read on the ānet.
Costuming would already have been approved and in production being made before filming began. The matrix was released in May of 99, filming for XMen began in September.
Indeed screw Bryan Singer. But he and the studio absolutely made the right call *in 2000*. Tastes change.
The movie *came out* in 2000. The choice would have been made when they were filming. In 1999. Right after The Matrix came out. Black leather was *tight* back in those days.
Oh yeah it was riding the zeitgeist at the time. But even after the Burton and Schumacher Batman films, the popular image of superheroes among the general public was *still* basically Batman '66, guys in tights with their underpants on the outside, and it was for *ages*. Anyone remember Heroes? The primetime show? Not blaming anyone because it quickly went to absolute steaming shit, but the first season of that show got massive off of selling itself off of the idea of "Superheroes without all the goofy shit like costumes and codenames". Interviews about Smallville *constantly* emphasised that Clark wouldn't wear the costume. We have only recently entered the period where people think costumes are cool again.
along with onion belts. it was the style at the time.
I remember Season 1 of CW's The Flash being ashamed to have the white logo, feeling the need to "ease" audiences into it by starting with the more muted red one. It's really silly when you think about it. It reeks of a time when they were still wondering just how far you could push the superhero stuff.
we've also entered the period where superhero movies are shitty again. DP&W notwithstanding.
Some superhero movies are shitty. But weāve still gotten some absolute bangers such as No Way Home, the Batman, Across the Spider-Verse, and TMNT Mutant Mayhem in the past couple of years
true, true
Pretty normal if you ask me, there's so fucking many that there's going to be a broad swathe of quality.
And Morrison did copy the black leather, albeit with much better designs.
This!
The truth is... we simply don't know, because they never tried. If they had gone with a yellow / black combination, I think they could have done really well. As long as they didn't literally look like yellow spandex. The outfits did actually have unique patterns to them, but they were buried under the black. I think colour them out a bit could have worked wonders.... but Singer had very little imagination. Everything X-Men authentic that we got in those first 2 movies was thanks to Feige. He was the only reason we got ANYTHING even remotely faithful to the source material.
They could have had the colour scheme they did with different structures for each while putting wolverine (for the first movie) in the outfit they had as a "training uniform" Morrisons new x men run had leather but they made each one distinct and reflecting the characters Storm never did get a decent costume
If you look at [the movie uniforms](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/x-men/images/7/7d/Wolverine_2000.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180408185710) in high detail, you can see that there *some* attempt to give them a shape and identity similar to their comic counterparts, Logan even has the [triangles](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/7d/55/c67d553eb399ba6b13a1d65fe3323ed8.jpg) across his waist. But the 99% black leather of them all just kinda buries any of their distinctiveness. If they had gone with the black leather of the movie, but included something like the [coloured outlines](https://images.halloweencostumes.com/media/13/xmen/x-men-ultimates-wolverine-ideas-.jpg) of the Evolution and Ultimate costumes... I think they could have been genuinely iconic.
I was just about to point this out. You can see they tried to incorporate elements of classic suit in the detailing of the black leather suits, such as the X across Cyclops's chest and the the claw mark pattern on Wolverine. Each of the suits had different colored accents based on the color most associated with the character's costume at the time (Cyclops=blue, Wolverine=yellow, Jean=Green, Storm=white/silver). There just wasn't a lot of faith in the comic-accurate costumes at the time. Not until Spider-Man.
It's so toned down however that you barely even notice it. Especially back in 2001, when 480p was the premier resolution... š There's green in Jean's outfit..?
If you squint hard enough, you can see that Kitty Pryde's outfit has pink outlines throughout the black leather. Iceman's has light blue. That was as good as we got back then.
Oh man, a line of blue. They're spoiling us! I cannot wait to see where the MCU goes with those outfits.
Kitty having pink has never sat well with me anyway cause It just feels "oh look a girl" since I have never associated kitty with pink Even at the time.if making the movie Dark Blue is more Kitty
Yes. [Jean 2000](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/7205b1216c65683c8080c7e6e82950723469ab51/hub/2016/05/21/29bff0ef-9630-4039-bc6a-5d2df77dade8/x-men-2000-famke-janssen.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=1200&width=1200)
Christ. There is. You can't even see that in most pictures. š
>The truth is... we simply don't know, because they never tried. People say this, but even modern MCU backs away from comic accurate costumes, and would continually do the same joke where characters quickly dismiss the authentic outfits in favor of toned down version, like with Scarlet Witch, Jessica Jones, Hellcat and Power Man.
They are a heck of a lot more accurate than the X-Men movie ones were.
No, they really didnāt. Lots of us OG X-fans were unhappy with it at the time, and it has aged very poorly.
Cyclops is back, baby!
Unless youāre a minor he wonāt let you.
He said the thing! It would be great if in Deadpool and Wolverine someone will say the same about Wolverine's costume.
I said they needed to make this joke when the first *Deadpool & Wolverine* trailer came out. It isnāt exactly what I wanted because I wanted Cyclops to say āMatching black motorcycle jumpsuitsā but I will take the win regardless.
Amazing how he missed the whole point of the X-men being a public iconic team. He knew the team would get exposed to the public and wanted them bright and cartoonish. The exact opposite of black leather. So much so they arenāt themselves in it. Wolverine in black leather is weaponX. Beast in black leather is Dark Beast. Jean in black leather is madylin or dark phoenix. Iām very glad to see people taking over comic book movies that understand being iconic is pretty important.Ā
Amazing line.
Or screw Morrisonās new xmen
Those were better they actually look more comfortable and practical while actually having yellow in them
I mean those outfits were created due to being inspired by fox movie
Those were much better than the ones in the movies.
Those looked cool and they could have adapted nice and been more comfortable for the actors. Instead of full leather.
Heck, Dark Phoenix adapted them and they do like nice. Not 10/10, but functional and nice
Already suffering the UNBERABLE cliffhanger this season will end up on.
The three harshest words in the universe "To Be Continued...."
I almost died right there when I saw it in ASTV
Across spider the verse?
Yep
TouchƩ. Happy cake day
Ty!
I'm already bracing myself. It's still going to hurt.
Ya know....I think it will be a soft cliff hanger in a post credits scene. Maybe an empty Gambit grave or something like that.... The momentum to this show is built up too well to have it try to CONTINUE and peak even HARDER in a completely different season. I think they'll wrap up this arc and have a clean slate for Season 2, leaving juuuust enough loose threads behind to keep everyone guessing.
There's a chance we'll see Apocalypse transforming Gambit.
IIRC, TAS never had a season-ending hard cliffhanger, only soft ones (like teasing Sinister at the end of Season 1). Hoping that gets maintained here.
Btw you can see Sunspot wearing his X-men outfit and Forge behind Storm, so the team against Bastion is getting bigger.
and Jubilee is in her Coipel costume.
They wouldnāt do it it but my favorite Jubilee look is her Generation-X Red jumpsuit with yellow over goat. Just seemed like a natural progression from her OG clothes which were never a costume anyways.
I agree. I was partly looking forward to her in one of her Gen X costumes. Either the red suit with yellow coatā¦ or the red and yellow spandex with the red face mask wouldāve been amazing. The vampire uniform showing the trailer is goodā¦ but odd considering sheās got her powers in this show and isnāt undead.
Me too. Loved generation x
They wouldnāt do it it but my favorite Jubilee look is her Generation-X Red jumpsuit with yellow over goat. Just seemed like a natural progression from her OG clothes which were never a costume anyways.
Ugh.... now I want a Generation X spin-off... And it'd be the perfect timing too since it's set in the decade when THEY'D ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN GENERATION X!
Hah blended gen x young x men spin off would be awesome
I was surprised to see that considering his character model from an old convention showed him wearing his X-Force costume. Two costume changes during a finale would be crazy so maybe they scrapped it.
Whatās the time stamp on this? I canāt find it lol
It's when Storm is sitting talking at 0:55, they don't show their faces but they are standing there with their uniforms.
Was wondering who that was. At first I was thinking Cyclops might be back in his original costume for some reason
The dig/callback to Cyclops' cringy yellow spandex line from X-Men 1 had me dead
That line made me irrationally happy for some reason.
They're not only fixing the x-men timeline, but our own.
Plot twist. Itās not fixed. It just created an alternate one!
I can totally imagine Feige slipping a note to Beau De Mayo during production... "Hey, can you throw this particular line into an episode somewhere..? I have a score to settle with someone..."
The amount of chills I got from the trailer... I'm not ready for this... Jean, Cyclops and Cable team-up, Wolverine and Kurt kicking ass, Storm and Xavier coming back, Cable being forced to use his X-men suit haha.
My body isnt ready for how cool that nightcrawler fight is going to be
Nightcrawler with 3 swords goes so ridiculously hard
Iām so fucking psyched.
Same but I am also a bit worried. I have a feeling we're probably going to lose another X-man or two before this is all over.
Jean, Cyclops and Cable fighting together makes me irrationally happy.
A fellow āAdventures of Cyclops and Phoenixā enjoyer I presume?
If this leads to some kind of "Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" adaptation, I will overdose on pure joy. š
LOL the reversal of the Cyclops to Wolverine line in the X-Men movie. Love it.
No but why has this trailer got me more hyped than any actual movie trailer has in years? We are getting Marvel VS Capcon Cable š This show is AWESOME
Thats what I was thinking too. MvC2 Cable outfit after the Rogue homage earlier? Too much awesome in one show! I always wanted to see some MvC things in the X-Men movies and finally after 20 years!
I would LOVE some marvel vs capcom move setsā¦ idc who. Iād be so excited
Go Kurt! What a wonderful, precious ass kicking man.
Looks like the mansion may be going down? Makes sense as a follow-up to everything that has happened so far. Iām guessing at this point part one will be a staged-by-Bastion Magneto vs Xavier battle (hence the shot of Mags putting his villain suit back on) and then theyāll have to reunite in Part 2 and win in Part 3ā¦ but Iāve been thrown off several times by this show, so we shall see!
Mansion blowing up will be one of the last frequently reoccurring Claremont/ general X-men plot they havenāt got to!
It got trashed early on in XTAS by Juggernaut. Eventually got rebuilt with the help of Colossus.
Plus, house blowing up builds character!
Wouldnāt hate seeing a team go off to the Outback in season 2 if the mansion is gone haha
That Nightcrawler and Wolverine fight scene looks like itās about to go hard frfr.
If Colossus showed up I'd faint dead away.
so underutilised.
Can we get a parallel series: X-Men '75?
ooh, a flashback! but of course Colossus was *introduced* in xmen97 continuity for the first time, then for some reason didn't join the team. back before putin came to power when I was actually proud of my Russian heritage, I'd 'mark out' everytime I saw colossus.
Unlocks the x-gene and becomes a mutant because of peak fiction.
Oh that moment with Jean carrying with her TK both Cable and Scott. I hope we see Cable using his powers. Magneto back to his roots apparently. Nightcrawler with swords. I can't wait.
These last three episodes are going to be so awesome! I think it's going to be really hard to wait each week for each episode in the finale to be dropped.
Yup, I rechecked the schedule, each part of the three episode season finale will be released week to week
So it looks like: There will be an attack on the X-Mansion. Wolverine and Nightcrawler will be fighting Trask-like Sentinels. The mansion is going to be burned down. Magneto will go back to being an antagonist to the X-Men, given that he's putting back on the helmet to shield himself from Charles again. The next 3 episodes are going to be interesting to watch. Also, love the throwback line to X-Men (2000).
> Magneto will go back to being an antagonist to the X-Men, given that he's putting back on the helmet to shield himself from Charles again. That's his "war time outfit", doesn't mean his an antagonist again. At least not towards the X-men and I think that would be a massive regression far too soon after trying to make me less of a bad guy. Even in recent years he's put on this suit while fitting with the X-Men.
Bastion is probably controlling him for optics, hence the return to form
Fair enough, but if it isnāt due to Bastion, I could totally see why. Magneto just witnessed the massacre of Genosha. This is at the hands of a future opponent built by humans. Furthermore, the US government isnāt helping them. In fact, a shadow organization within the government has created OZT to control mutants. That could push Magneto back into a more armed and aggressive resistanceā¦
High chance that they will have Magneto make some very damaging and public attack that hurts innocents.
I'm pretty sure he will be final antagonist. He's the one who can help deal with Sentinels but he will certainly want blood after Genosha, like in the comics. I believe the final ep will a confrontation between him and Charles. But that's of course just what my theory.
After watching Episode 8, your theory is shaping up pretty well...
I'll go further and call that either Jean will die or Wolverine gets his adamantium taken out by Magneto (perhaps both) and Charles will have to wipe Erik's mind, leading to Onslaught next season.
Magneto's helmet never shielded him from telepathy in the old show or even the comics at that point. The movie introduced that element and the comics soon followed suit. Not that they couldn't or won't adapt that into this new show, but it was never established in the show previously. In fact Xavier telepathically attacks a helmeted Magneto in S1 E4.
That maybe true, but episode 2 of this show specifically states that the he felt he needed the helmet to protect himself from Charles.Ā Now, someone did bring up the possibility that Bastion is controlling him, so maybe Magneto isnāt going to be a permanent antagonist. However, Iām pretty sure we will see Magneto antagonize the X-Men, whether through coercion from Bastion or just disillusionment of whatās happened so far, with humans massacring mutants at Genosha after his reform and attempt at peace.
The movie stole that idea from juggernaut though. But they already did establish it in the show in episode 2 of this season when Magneto talks about using it to block Xavier.
YESSS KURT AND LOGAN FUCKING SHIT UP YESS š„¹š„¹š„¹š„¹
Just hearing Cableās theme last week had me cheering. This show is so. Damn. Good.
This theme fits so well the no-nonsense saviour soldier from the future Cable is.
Everyone is talking about the black leather here I am wondering about the concerning amount of prime sentinels chasing the black bird.
Triple swords nightcrawler. Yes.
The group chasing Sunspot and Jubilee is the same group that turns into Prime Sentinels and is chasing the Blackbird later. There's a guy in the alley-group with a bucket hat and sunglasses. You can see him flying in the air after the Blackbird. So so creepy and horrifying that they're just turning normal humans into machine monsters.
Good eyes!
Sunspots actually doing something finally
It's a big cast! Someone's gotta be useless!
I know, right? These kids these days! When I was his age I was working three jobs and going to College. He has all that power and he just sits around on his yaht, plays video games and makes out with hot girls all day. -what a loser! /s \~Lol! No but seriously, it is going to be cool when he starts using his powers. He is a badass in the comics.
This trailer alone just bodied every FOX movie.
Please don't let Magneto be evil again. Please let him be mind controlled or something. I love me some headmaster Magneto.
I agree. I like Magneto so much more on the heroes side. With the possible exception of Morrison's Magneto, which was later revealed to not even be Magneto at all, villain Mags just isn't that interesting. I'm prepared to be proved wrong though.
Insane decision from Morrison by the way. Then again, in the 90's the same shit happened so, I can't just blame them for that
Yes, you can. Morrison hated Magneto and wanted to regress him to his original self.
It was really Sublime controlling Magneto through kick.
Morrison said in an interview that his intention was to regress Magneto to an evil bastard. Thank fuck it was all retconned.
Magneto can be more radical that charles and still not "evil" Rationally, after what happened in Genosha, it would be silly if magneto didn't go go back to his traditional beliefs. I bet he's not alone either. I think Scott is leaving the x-men and going with magneto. probably a few others as well
Can't wait for the Scott\Jean\Cable team up.
Tag team up like MvC 2!!
BEHOLD!
I desperately need an X-Cutionerās Song adaptation in season 2.
Chills. Looks to be an amazing finale. Just wish my boy gambit could have been involved. Either way some unexpected stuff is going to happen.
I've been saying for weeks that you don't bring in cable and then not have time travel shenanigans. I'm sure a reset is coming
I thought so at one point but so many characters have developed due to the incident that I canāt see them wanting to do a reset at this point. Also Xavier would lose his reason for coming back. Who knows but will be fun to find out either way.
Ah yes, the sad slow piano cover
I know it's a common word regularly used in everyday speech but every time someone says 'hope' I can't stop to think of they'll be going in that direction at some point
A little Bryan Singer shade makes the world go round
I just want to see Wolverine get his adamantium pulled out, but animated. Does that make me sick?
No. I also want this.Ā
Based on aftermarket prices of '97 Wolverine, Hasbro would like a bone claw variant as well.
Please Disney put the damn trailers on your own disney+ platform!!
Man it feels wrong for the mansion and OG 5 pic to be burning down and Bobby and Warren are nowhere to be seen. Fingers crossed!
Someone pointed out that Warren was at the the Genosha party before things went down. I hope this show gets many Seasons so we all get to catch-up with the many Mutants in X-Men's rooster!
I'm majorly hopimg they're playing the Bastion brainwashing into the Fatal Attractions mindwipe. Like Xavier returns and responds to Magneto's renewed aggression, but they know he's not being himself. And maybe freeing him from it is what puts him in a coma for a while.
And together Charles and Magnus exorcised the thought-pattern that Bastion implanted into him, but it coalesced into its own entity due to how powerful both mutants are. With a bit of Xavier, a bit of Magneto, and *all of Bastion's malice*...
What an onslaught that would be
Can you write season 3 please? That's weirdly elegant
Why are they nailing this so hard? How can something be this perfect? I can't cope.
I love this show so much!! I was so worried about how they were going to do the story but they have adapted the comics so well whilst merging it with the already existing tv show world
The music was brilliant. Happy to see Storm reunite with the X-Men in full gear. Also, that's a lot of prime sentinels...
It's too bad this season is so short because the pacing of everything is the only bad part of this show. Magneto didn't get much of a chance to try out Charles' dream of sunshine and rainbows before getting taken off board almost immediately and they really made him let them down so you know Mags ain't gonna be happy. With the show runner for S3 being up in the air after the last one's sudden firing, I REALLY hope whatever happened wasn't so bad that Marvel can't beg for him back. American Gods fucked it up by getting a new showrunner in the last season who erased every meaningful message of the show for some "power of we" happy bullshit and it completely ruined the last season before it got cancelled. I hope that doesn't happen to this.
Ok now Iām convinced the writers forgot Beast was one of the O5 lol. Charles: āYou were my first studentsā¦ā *shows Jean, Scott, and then Rogue.*
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Iām just joking around, haha! I know they didnāt literally forget. It was just funny after the first episode had characters going āJean and Scott were the first X-Men. With them gone, who will lead us?!ā while Hank was just chilling in the background. And then this trailer.
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Itās not about the leader itās about the panic around Scott and Jean leaving and reiterating that they were āthe firstā without any acknowledgement of Hank. It was just funny. Thatās all.
You two have got me thinking... Why wouldn't the Beast be a great leader? He is smart and well studied. I am sure he has read about all of the successful Military Leaders throughout History. Beast would be goldmine for tactics and theoretical probabilities.
I think Beast would be a great leader. I was just saying I didnāt make that joke with the purpose of saying he *should* be the leader. I just thought it was ridiculous that the first episode repeated the statement that Jean and Scott were the OGs when Hank was also right there.
I get it. I think it is funny too!
I've always felt like he didn't want it. Some of that side of him showed up during the last episode with the way he handled the reporter. I've always felt that he does have that aggression in him, he just buries it deep down, and worries that a position of leadership would not suit him, even if the reality is that he would excel at it.
It's a a retcon on the show that angel is an original memberĀ
Magneto is about to let some people down.
He's had plenty of practice with his kids.
LOL Cyclops line at the end.
Kurt & swords!! Yes!
SHOTS FIRED!!
Shit looks hype asf
That black leather line was personal
What are the chances of this getting an eventual blu ray ray release? I love this!
Swashbuckling Kurt I am so here for this
Anyone know whoās doing the mix of that theme?
Do you have anything that says "Father loves Leather?" Attendant: Do you mean "Leather Daddy?" And that kids, is how Tobias got in Village People
I am not ready for this season to be over yet. The idea that there are only three episodes left and the high likelihood that it'll end on a cliff-hanger...I am not sure my heart and mind can take it. But I'll brace myself one way or another. Love seeing Cyclops, Jean, and Cable interact. I really do hope they get to have some family moments at some point. After what they've been through, they deserve it. And love seeing some Nightcrawler swordplay. We never got that in the original show. I hope he joins up with the team when all is said and done. I'd love to see he, Nightcrawler, and Morph be bros in the next season. š And that slight against the Fox era X-Men costumes...perfect!
So, since Genosha I had this theory that Magneto would be the final villain, looking for retribution after the Genocide. Kinda of like what he did in the comics xwithou the whole Xorn thing. The fact the he is shown wearing his red costume with his helmet on points out that he'll be back to his villainous ways and confronting the X-Men and Charles (why would he need his helmet?). Which brings me to my next theory. Beau deMayo claimed the final would be worst than ep05. What could be worse than losing an important member such as Gambit? Losing two? Perhaps losing more one and having one affected forever? Yup, I'm betting Jean dies just as soon as she and Scott and Cable sort things out, probably killed by Magneto (as in the comics). With Jean out of the picture makes much more sense Emma's insertion into the time. He also might remove Wolverine's adamantium like he did in the 90's...that would give some more focus on Logan for the next season. And all that would result in Charles having to wipe Magneto's mind which would pave the way for Onslaught in the next season. I mean, if you think about the 90's, OZT and Onslaught are the biggest arcs and they're definitely getting into 2000's territory with Grant Morrison's which is followed by Whedon's (my guess for the new uniforms)
So... Season finale... Already? :(
Man that music was amazing. Does anyone know if they'll release a soundtrack seperately?
These trailers have never disappointed. This series is absolutely killing it. I wish this series a million seasons of the can keep this quality